Re: CS>Armour

2008-09-29 Thread Norton, Steve
Oops, my error. Sorry, no help.
 - Steve

- Original Message -
From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Mon Sep 29 21:18:10 2008
Subject: Re: CS>Armour


 I don't use T4, and I think the T4 component is why I don't do well 
with armour, or other dessicated thyroids. However if that site sells a 
T3 only product then I would be interested, but otherwise thanks, but it 
won't help me.
sol

Norton, Steve wrote:
> Sol,
> I have found a source for Levothyroxine for dogs that is perhaps
> mistakenly non prescription. Are you interested in that source?
>  


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Re: CS>Armour

2008-09-29 Thread sol
I don't use T4, and I think the T4 component is why I don't do well 
with armour, or other dessicated thyroids. However if that site sells a 
T3 only product then I would be interested, but otherwise thanks, but it 
won't help me.

sol

Norton, Steve wrote:

Sol,
I have found a source for Levothyroxine for dogs that is perhaps
mistakenly non prescription. Are you interested in that source?
 



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Re: CS>cat with seizures

2008-09-29 Thread Roger Barker


On 30 Sep, 2008, at 1:35 AM, jessie70 wrote:

I bought a pure lobelia tincture from Schultz some time ago for a  
lot more
than $6.82. I'd never heard it was for seizures. Where did you get  
that info

from? Thanks, Jess

Hi Jess, this message came through from, I think, Charles Sutton back  
in 2005.



I cured a veterinarian's Dachund of seizures with one treatment of  
Lobelia

Tincture, that I make myself...The vet said it was a "spontaneous
remission"  (r i g h t)  The dog never had another oneI told  
this to

my vet who is a Chinese Herbalist and uses acupuncture on dogs and
animalsHe took some from me and gave me credit on my  
bill..  He

later said he had the same experience with some of his patients...I
don't know if the tinctures you can buy will do the same thing. but  
check
out Dr. Christopher's website and see if he has anyIf you can't  
find any

let me know and I'll send you some.


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RE: CS>Armour

2008-09-29 Thread Norton, Steve
Sol,
I have found a source for Levothyroxine for dogs that is perhaps
mistakenly non prescription. Are you interested in that source?
 - Steve 

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Armour

Actually I don't use Armour, but have ordered from that site before when
I did, unfortunately they don't carry a straight T3 product.
sol

S-Max wrote:
> I purchased my Armour Thyroid ldirectly last year without a
prescription.
> Try this link: 
>  
> http://www.antiaging-systems.com/a2z/thyroid.htm
> S-Max
>   


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Re: CS>Armour

2008-09-29 Thread sol
Actually I don't use Armour, but have ordered from that site before when 
I did, unfortunately they don't carry a straight T3 product.

sol

S-Max wrote:

I purchased my Armour Thyroid ldirectly last year without a prescription.
Try this link: 
 
http://www.antiaging-systems.com/a2z/thyroid.htm
S-Max 
  



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Re: CS>Armour

2008-09-29 Thread S-Max
I purchased my Armour Thyroid ldirectly last year without a prescription.
Try this link: 
 
http://www.antiaging-systems.com/a2z/thyroid.htm
S-Max 

From: sol 
Subject: Re: CS>Armour 
I think that is because you do have a prescription. Us self-treating 
folks are having trouble sourcing our needed thyroid. 
sol 
-
Paula Perry wrote: 
I was able to get a refill prescription of Armour yesterday and did not
encounter any problems. 
Paula 


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Re: CS>CS for pets

2008-09-29 Thread sol

I do, being the list co-owner, LOL.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/
sol


Marshall Dudley wrote:

Actually I don't.

Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:

I believe that was Marshall, Steve.

Also, there's the CS Pets list on Yahoo. Do you have the address for 
that, Marshall?





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Re: CS>Armour

2008-09-29 Thread sol
I think that is because you do have a prescription. Us self-treating 
folks are having trouble sourcing our needed thyroid.

sol

Paula Perry wrote:
I was able to get a refill prescription of Armour yesterday and did 
not encounter any problems.

Paula



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CS>CS & HP

2008-09-29 Thread Norton, Steve
Marshall,
Thanks for those links. It gives me a lot tp ponder.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Concensus of opinion

http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2.html and
http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=58&db=5&C0=1
Upon entering the lungs, the oxidation reaction dislodges and delivers
some substances directly into the bloodstream. In the case of smokers,
this results in a possible extreme nicotine overdose that can cause
heart failure.

Marshall

wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Concensus of opinion
>
> Morning Mike,
>
> [And one more reminder is in order: There was a quite scary report 
> from Jason Eaton of an acquaintance of his that nearly killed himself 
> by inhaling
>
> a *VERY* dilute hydrogen peroxide solution from a nebulizer. What did 
> it? HE
>
> WAS A SMOKER!! The peroxide mobilized a near fatal dose of nicotine, 
> released from his lung tissues into the bloodstream, that nearly sent 
> him into shock.  Mike D.]
>
> I have an article regarding what you state here, (if I saved it), and 
> I won't give anything away here.excuse me for a moment, cough 
> coughthat's better,  I tried to find where nicotine was the

> actual cause, or if it was due to the other chemicals contained in 
> smokes. The HP lifts the crud off the lung tissue which apparently 
> allowed it to roam around in the blood stream.  I would still like to 
> find if it was directly related, or linked, to nicotine though.  I 
> don't think they elaborated on that in the article I read, I think 
> they just made the broad statement regarding 'nicotine poisoning'.
> Not suggesting it wasn't though you understand, just didn't find 
> enough corroborating evidence in the article.
>
> Neville.
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CS>RE: CS for pets

2008-09-29 Thread Norton, Steve

 Marshall,
This is from the oleandersoup forum. I tried to send it last Friday but
it may not have gone through.
 - Steve


 "Wrong forum I know.. but I have to say a big YES on CS shrinking
benign tumors. My dog Weaver had a huge fatty tumor (size of an apricot)
on his belly. After about a month on the Colloidal Silver, not kidding,
it's gone, other tumors he has are also diminishing as well. The stuffs
amazing.
> 
> Tammatha"

-Original Message-
From: Norton, Steve 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:01 PM
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
Subject: CS for pets

Mike,
Is it you that is looking for info on CS benefiting pets? It didn't come
to mind earlier but there is a Yahoo group on Oleandersoup for pets.
There is also one for people of which I am a member. While it is
primarily about using oleander to fight cancer, as with this group the
members have broad knowledge and experiences. CS is commonly in use by
that group and you might be able to get good info from them if you ask.
 - Steve N


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Re: CS>CS for pets

2008-09-29 Thread Clayton Family


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets

silverp...@yahoogroups.com

On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


Actually I don't.

Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:

I believe that was Marshall, Steve.

Also, there's the CS Pets list on Yahoo. Do you have the address for 
that, Marshall?


Mike D.





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Re: CS>Concensus of opinion

2008-09-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2.html and 
http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=58&db=5&C0=1
Upon entering the lungs, the oxidation reaction dislodges and delivers 
some substances directly into the bloodstream. In the case of smokers, 
this results in a possible extreme nicotine overdose that can cause 
heart failure.


Marshall

wrote:


- Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Concensus of opinion

Morning Mike,

[And one more reminder is in order: There was a quite scary report 
from Jason Eaton of an acquaintance of his that nearly killed himself 
by inhaling


a *VERY* dilute hydrogen peroxide solution from a nebulizer. What did 
it? HE


WAS A SMOKER!! The peroxide mobilized a near fatal dose of nicotine, 
released from his lung tissues into the bloodstream, that nearly sent 
him into shock.  Mike D.]


I have an article regarding what you state here, (if I saved it), and 
I won't give anything away here.excuse me for a moment, cough 
coughthat's better,  I tried to find where nicotine was the 
actual cause, or if it was due to the other chemicals contained in 
smokes. The HP lifts the crud off the lung tissue which apparently 
allowed it to roam around in the blood stream.  I would still like to 
find if it was directly related, or linked, to nicotine though.  I 
don't think they elaborated on that in the article I read, I think 
they just made the broad statement regarding 'nicotine poisoning'.  
Not suggesting it wasn't though you understand, just didn't find 
enough corroborating evidence in the article.


Neville.

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Re: CS>CS for pets

2008-09-29 Thread Marshall Dudley

Actually I don't.

Marshall

M. G. Devour wrote:

I believe that was Marshall, Steve.

Also, there's the CS Pets list on Yahoo. Do you have the address for 
that, Marshall?


Mike D.


  

Mike,
Is it you that is looking for info on CS benefiting pets? It didn't come
to mind earlier but there is a Yahoo group on Oleandersoup for pets.
There is also one for people of which I am a member. While it is
primarily about using oleander to fight cancer, as with this group the
members have broad knowledge and experiences. CS is commonly in use by
that group and you might be able to get good info from them if you ask.
 - Steve N



[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CS>Food Combining and Animals

2008-09-29 Thread Ode Coyote



  I don't know about Loins, but Coyotes eat berries, greens, grains, roots 
and tubers along with meat. [ from having one as my best friend for 8 years 
while living "out there"..oddly, he didn't like bananas but ate the peels]


Ode


At 02:32 PM 9/27/2008 -0500, you wrote:


>> At 01:28 PM 9/27/2008, you wrote:
Apparently if one follows the guidelines one can't eat certain things 
together, eg; if you have potato you can't have bread.  Things like that.



   Things like that ?

   Anyone ever hear of  "Proper Food Combining".   Plain and simple rules.
No ones stomach can be acid and alkaline at the same time.

 It also gives the example of animals in the wild eating the stomach of 
their kill first due to the liquids and greens etc contained within 
before eating any of the meat.


   Sound like someone is wrong.  I always believed they ate the Organs of 
the animal first.


And the leader of the pack, .. stays the leader because he eats 
first, and gets the choice

organs.  Heart, Lungs, liver, and similar organs.

If they wanted GREENS, . why kill an animal to get them?
They do not have to stalk all day, and run... go eat the greens.

Of course eating greens violates their law of nature anyway.

Wayne

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Re: CS>[FW]Promising Study on Obesity

2008-09-29 Thread Ode Coyote



  Fasting throws your metabolism into survival mode...and... "absence 
makes the heart grow fondue"
If fuel in is less than energy out, the weight has to come off and muscle 
developed to carry fat around stays.
 Many years picking it up, it's going to take a while to drop it off..and 
a fundamental change of mind about what food is for both takes and keeps it 
off.


If your life is active in motion and such that, being an inconvenience, you 
*forget* to eat or delay it in favor of activity, you will not be fat.



For grins and giggles, take note of who skinny and fat people generally 
choose to hang out with.  I think you'll find that  Like interest fortifies 
like activity and mindset. [Feedback]

 Might want to find new friends in a transitional group.

Sitting around won't find  friends who are out walking around. [Doesn't 
matter "why" they are walking around, everyone has their own reason for a 
same activity. it's the "doing" that brings them together and validates the 
doing with feedback. ]


 A change in mind makes the change in body...otherwise it's a never ending 
battle.

If you aren't fighting, you can't lose.

It's tough to be happy when at war with oneself.
 Bottom line, people want to be happy even if it kills em and they tend to 
not focus on physical cause, only the emotional effect.
 Gotta have a different set of reasons and the results of having them come 
on their own.
  Hypnosis may be good. [ Every time I hear a noise or a certain word 
spoken, that means I just had dinner and I can forget about being hungry. 
Sub conscious "Triggers"  ]


Why do I have this sudden urge to walk around the block?


There are some mind altering drugs to erase hardwires, making it easier to 
re- wire.  Ibogain, MDA, LSD...[with hypnosis? ]

 DMT lasts just a little longer than a shrink session.

A church service uses the fundamentals of mind control programming, a 
progression of sounds, societal 'compliances'  and induced mental states 
that make one mentally pliable and "entranced".
It might be possible to use those elements for your own purposes...go in 
there with your own sermon to read over and over. As the preacher drones 
subliminal messages into your head, ignore him and "insert here"  [ an MP3 
player loaded with a subliminal weight loss program theme? ]...and/or ask 
the preacher to include you as a "special"
 Mind control programming technology sets you up to forget who you think 
you are.


Walk out the door at the end and "kill" a piece of pie with a stick [ a bad 
deed for the good of all mankind]..A Manchurian Candidate skips 
lunch to save the world from evil French Fried Dic-taters and takes a 
[several mile long?]  "Victory walk" home.
 The Pillsbury Michelin man revenge squad hiding under the spare tire will 
be looking for you in the car...don't be there.
..and when you get home, have the family celebrate your escape and survival 
with cheers.  [but not fried chicken]  YOU MADE IT!YAY!
..might even sneak into the house with a furtive glance behind you.  A 
little pretend drama.


Effort applied with cause and a reward to validate the effort. [feedback loop ]

 Silly?  Yup.  The same sort of silly *being* used can be *re-used*.  It's 
all symbolic and a joke isn't a threat to be defended against.

 Try this too.
 As you walk home, each step say out loud  "Ho!, then HA!, then Hee!"  Ho, 
hee, ha, hee, ho, ha , hee all the way home.  You don't have to mean 
it, it will mean itself.
 You will be thinking to yourself:  You can't be serious!  THAT is utterly 
idiotic.  [Humm..yes, it is..and "it" has not been defined 'cause "it" 
ain't nuthin-a-tall that makes any sense. "It" is undefinable. ]
Maybe even staple little silly symbolic signs on trees to look at along the 
way..just a little bit hidden so you actually have to seek them out, like 
scrawny chickens pulling elephants in little red wagons cartoons..a game to 
play on the way.


 As YOU do it, you will attract others to do it with.
 Make teams to hide cartoons from each other as you chant Ho, Hee, 
Hahave some *stupid* fun.

[ I guarantee it will be the most hilarious thing you ever did. ]

 Laughter IS the best medicine.
If you can be silly, it can be a lot of fun"silly math" to unbalance 
mental equations being taken seriously...without...thinking  "those" 
equations, thus not defending ANY equations.


..change mind behind back, that's how it happens anyhow. Both what's in 
there now and whatever goes in there forever more, gets in on the blind 
side to gate the vision.
 Sneak up behind ego and it thinks it thought of it and never thought 
anything else.



 EGO takes itself seriously, it doesn't HAVE a silly side...it can be 
fooled...always is.

And YOU can fool it even while knowing that you are.
 Every time you think "This is stupid" and you still do it, you are 
re-programming yourself behind your own back without being threatened. [ 
Isn't that how you got fat? ]

 No threat, no defen

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-09-29 Thread Dee
I don't think there is any anaerobic oxygen.  I use the term aerobic 
oxygen as meaning stabilised oxygen. dee


Wayne Fugitt wrote:

Evening Dee,

>> At 03:43 AM 9/28/2008, you wrote:


By the way, I didn't say anaerobic, I said aerobic.


  Could be I got them mixed up, since the term, "Aerobic Oxygen"
or   "Anaerobic Oxygen" are both terms that make little sense.

The term  Aerobic has always meant,   ( the non technical and simple 
definition )


"With Oxygen"

and likewise

The term "anaerobic" means  "without oxygen."





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RE: CS>cat with seizures

2008-09-29 Thread jessie70
I bought a pure lobelia tincture from Schultz some time ago for a lot more
than $6.82. I'd never heard it was for seizures. Where did you get that info
from? Thanks, Jess

-Original Message-
From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@clear.net.nz]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:57 AM
To: CS list
Subject: Re: CS>cat with seizures



On 29 Sep, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Carrole Orme wrote:


Hi Roger
What do you think of this stuff
Carrole

This one seems to be the nearest to a true tincture so could be worth
a try.



Christopher's Original Formula, Lobelia Alcohol Extract, 1 fl oz (30 ml)
$6.82 $12.99 (47% Off)
>


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Re: CS>CS in SHampoo?

2008-09-29 Thread Teri Kavakos
I buy mine from www.mountianroseherbs.com  if you want to use them in the 
laundry also order a few cotton tea bags to place them in.


Teri


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