Re: CS>CS for kids

2009-02-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 03:32:33PM -0600, Clayton Family wrote:
>
> On Feb 12, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Indi wrote:
>>
>> That's a fact. But I have known a few people who thought that as long  
>> as
>> their diet was vegetarian, all their nutritional needs were covered. Of
>> course, that doesn't work for vegetarians any better than it does for  
>> meat
>> eaters.
>>
>> indi
>>
>
> LOL- yes, my husband for one- the doc told him to eat more veggies!
>

Wow -- you know you're doing vegetarianism wrong when a *doctor* tells you that!

indi


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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-12 Thread frankcuns-r...@comcast.net

Sol What makes you believe you have fluoride in your distilled water?
Frank

sol wrote:
Water boils here at around 195-198 F degrees (going from memory, it 
might be less, I haven't checked it for years and years) not the sea 
level 212 F.

That is 90-92 C if the online converter is accurate (joke).
So I don't think the still is overheating, and the drip from the  
condenser  is very even and steady.

sol

frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote:

Sol,
At 6300 ft =2100 meters! Without looking at your distiller I can't 
tell you. Distillers are made to generate enough BTU to gently boil 
the amount of water in the still at standard conditions of 
temperature and pressure. The pressure at 2100 meters is much lower 
than that at sea level and you may be overheating.
Without the benefit of a diagram, you may be getting liquid water in 
your condenser. If you are evaporating and condensing at the correct 
rate, the drip-drip from the condenser tip will be very steady. If 
the outflow is not steady it could be an indication of liquid water 
getting into your condenser. Try to add some glass or ceramic beads 
to control over-boiling.
Under laboratory conditions you will not get any fluorides in your 
distilled water.

Good luck
Frank



sol wrote:

frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote:
A word of advice when distilling. The amount of heat one needs to 
apply is that just necessary to produce vapors. In other words, 
once you start distilling use the least amount of heat possible. 
You want to avoid over-boiling. It is also advisable to add glass 
beads to the water to be distilled so that the dissolved gases are 
released gradually without over-boiling. Finally make sure you 
filter the water before you start.
What is your elevation? do you live in a mountain area.  The vapor 
pressure  diminishing as you reduce the atmospheric pressure.

Frank
I use a purchased distiller, and for CS making I do distill filtered 
cold water. I have no control over the temperature the still boils 
the water at.

Elevation here is 6300 ft.
I still want to know if distilling removes fluoride or not? I 
suppose from your first answer that it does, but am confused by the 
"open distillation" comment. In a closed distiller from which the 
distillate comes out via a spout into a collection container, will 
there be fluroide in the distilled water or not?

thanks,
sol


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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-12 Thread sol
Water boils here at around 195-198 F degrees (going from memory, it 
might be less, I haven't checked it for years and years) not the sea 
level 212 F.

That is 90-92 C if the online converter is accurate (joke).
So I don't think the still is overheating, and the drip from the  
condenser  is very even and steady.

sol

frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote:

Sol,
At 6300 ft =2100 meters! Without looking at your distiller I can't 
tell you. Distillers are made to generate enough BTU to gently boil 
the amount of water in the still at standard conditions of temperature 
and pressure. The pressure at 2100 meters is much lower than that at 
sea level and you may be overheating.
Without the benefit of a diagram, you may be getting liquid water in 
your condenser. If you are evaporating and condensing at the correct 
rate, the drip-drip from the condenser tip will be very steady. If the 
outflow is not steady it could be an indication of liquid water 
getting into your condenser. Try to add some glass or ceramic beads to 
control over-boiling.
Under laboratory conditions you will not get any fluorides in your 
distilled water.

Good luck
Frank



sol wrote:

frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote:
A word of advice when distilling. The amount of heat one needs to 
apply is that just necessary to produce vapors. In other words, once 
you start distilling use the least amount of heat possible. You want 
to avoid over-boiling. It is also advisable to add glass beads to 
the water to be distilled so that the dissolved gases are released 
gradually without over-boiling. Finally make sure you filter the 
water before you start.
What is your elevation? do you live in a mountain area.  The vapor 
pressure  diminishing as you reduce the atmospheric pressure.

Frank
I use a purchased distiller, and for CS making I do distill filtered 
cold water. I have no control over the temperature the still boils 
the water at.

Elevation here is 6300 ft.
I still want to know if distilling removes fluoride or not? I suppose 
from your first answer that it does, but am confused by the "open 
distillation" comment. In a closed distiller from which the 
distillate comes out via a spout into a collection container, will 
there be fluroide in the distilled water or not?

thanks,
sol


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Re: CS>CS for kids

2009-02-12 Thread Gaiacita
Thanks.  This helped a lot.  I've passed it on to her.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
Hi, Renee,
Well, I did`t give my kids CS `cause they were grown and gone by the time I 
found out about it! 

Re: CS>CS for kids

2009-02-12 Thread Clayton Family


On Feb 12, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Indi wrote:


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:24:24PM -0600, Clayton Family wrote:

Just a short comment- I know many parents that have raised kids on a
vegan diet ( and many more that included milk)- if one pays attention 
to

the diet, there is no risk of "severe nutritional deficiency". Of
course, kids are at risk of defieciency just by eating the usual kinds
of crap that is commonly used for food these days, such as big macs 
and
soda pop. But one rarely hears the doctors getting as upset with that 
as

they do with veganism.



That's a fact. But I have known a few people who thought that as long 
as

their diet was vegetarian, all their nutritional needs were covered. Of
course, that doesn't work for vegetarians any better than it does for 
meat

eaters.

indi



LOL- yes, my husband for one- the doc told him to eat more veggies!


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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-12 Thread Sharlene Miyamura
Hi Frank,

Fluorine gas, as in fluorocarbons (regarding the newer refrigerants)  are
supposed to have a "low" boiling point, why would this be?  Is it because it
is combined with the carbon or ethane?  Can this type of gas also be soluble
in water?

Also where do one get glass beads?

Thank you,
Sharlene

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:57 AM, frankcuns-r...@comcast.net <
frankcuns-r...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi There is a difference between fluorine and fluoride. Fluorine is a free
> gas and has a boiling point of about -180C but a tiny amount dissolves in
> water at room temperature and it is boiled off by distillation. Fluoride is
> an anion usually bound to a mineral such as sodium or calcium, etc by strong
> ionic bonds and it will not boil at 100C and thus will not be in the
> condensate but remain in the residue. Where did you get the information that
> an open distillation would not rid the fluorine?
> Frank
>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


Re: CS>CS for kids

2009-02-12 Thread Indi
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:24:24PM -0600, Clayton Family wrote:
> Just a short comment- I know many parents that have raised kids on a  
> vegan diet ( and many more that included milk)- if one pays attention to 
> the diet, there is no risk of "severe nutritional deficiency". Of  
> course, kids are at risk of defieciency just by eating the usual kinds  
> of crap that is commonly used for food these days, such as big macs and  
> soda pop. But one rarely hears the doctors getting as upset with that as 
> they do with veganism.
>

That's a fact. But I have known a few people who thought that as long as
their diet was vegetarian, all their nutritional needs were covered. Of
course, that doesn't work for vegetarians any better than it does for meat
eaters. 

indi


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Re: CS>CS for kids

2009-02-12 Thread Dan Nave
Get rid of the meat patty and you have a vegan diet...

Dan

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Dee Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> I think you are right Katherine.  One of my grandsons eats nothing but pot
> noodles, burghers and Coke, and I am sure a vegan diet is far healthier than
> this!  He is not alone either. Dee
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Clayton Family
> Date: 12/02/2009 04:24:44
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS for kids
>
> Just a short comment- I know many parents that have raised kids on a
> vegan diet ( and many more that included milk)- if one pays attention
> to the diet, there is no risk of "severe nutritional deficiency". Of
> course, kids are at risk of defieciency just by eating the usual kinds
> of crap that is commonly used for food these days, such as big macs and
> soda pop. But one rarely hears the doctors getting as upset with that
> as they do with veganism.
>
> sorry, mike, I couldn't resist  stating the other side.
>
> Kathryn
>


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Re: CS>CS for kids

2009-02-12 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I think you are right Katherine.  One of my grandsons eats nothing but pot
noodles, burghers and Coke, and I am sure a vegan diet is far healthier than
this!  He is not alone either. Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Clayton Family
Date: 12/02/2009 04:24:44
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS for kids
 
Just a short comment- I know many parents that have raised kids on a
vegan diet ( and many more that included milk)- if one pays attention
to the diet, there is no risk of "severe nutritional deficiency". Of
course, kids are at risk of defieciency just by eating the usual kinds
of crap that is commonly used for food these days, such as big macs and
soda pop. But one rarely hears the doctors getting as upset with that
as they do with veganism.
 
sorry, mike, I couldn't resist  stating the other side.
 
Kathryn
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CS>Nebulizer

2009-02-12 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
 

I wrote about my Omron Nebulizer, it is not made any more.

They due have on as cheap and I was told it is comparable.

I just heard back from the company.

Bob



RE: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-12 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
>I HAVE ALWAYS SAID MY water comes out better when I do not fill my
distiller full.
I always fill 1/2 to 3/4 or 2 to 3 quarts on a 1 gallon distiller.
I have seen on newer models they have like a baffle  plate standing off
from 
The vapor hole in the condenser head looks like the baffle was to stop
water from boiling over in to 
The condenser. It just takes longer to make a gallon of distilled water
but you are only using 
Electricity for the amount you distill. I do put heated water in
distiller from hot water
Line as I gave Natural gas. Natural gas is cheaper than electricity and
does shorten distilling time.
Bob


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CS>CS Site Status?

2009-02-12 Thread craehow...@juno.com
In the past week I doubt if I've received 20 posts from the site; usually it 
runs more like 200..  Can anyone tell me if this is correct?  Trying to see if 
my email is getting lost.
 
thanks
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