CS>Berkey PF2 for flouride

2009-02-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

http://www.truehealthfacts.com/berkey/PF-2-PF-4FAQ.html

The Berkey units are often advertised online.   The "black Berkey" 
filters combine with the PF2 filters.



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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread sol
Southwest wyoming, high altitude desert. The only water sources right 
here are Bitter Creek (poisonous with alkali) and the Green River. The 
city takes water out of the river considerably upstream from the 
confluence of the Bitter Creek into the river though.

I could be wrong about no springs, I'll ask around.
sol

Marshall Dudley wrote:

sol wrote:

Marshall Dudley wrote:
Can you try some other sources of water, rainwater or from a spring 
maybe.
No springs or well water sources available here. Would have been 
interesting. Maybe if we ever get enough rain, but that won't likely 
be until April at least. If we get another good snowfall what about 
collecting some snow and using that water?

sol
Sure, as long as it isn't yellow.  Where do you live that there are no 
springs?



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Re: CS>Consumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Thanks for checking.  That's what I wanted to know.   Too bad; I trust 
CR.


On Wednesday, Feb 18, 2009, at 05:52 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:


Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
I don't want to clutter up the list with another discussion of water 
distiller brands, but wonder whether anyone has seen CR (no 
Consumer's Digest) ratings of WDs.   Information much appreciated.
I am an online subscriber to CR but I can't find that they have ever 
reported on them at the CR website.

sol



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Re: CS>anyone see these fireballs?

2009-02-17 Thread Marshalee Hallett
FYI: Meteoroids are in space, meteors are in the air, meteorites are on the
ground. So many get these all mixed up!Marshalee, a space-stuff buff...


On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Clayton Family wrote:

> Space Weather News for Feb. 16, 2009
> http://spaceweather.com
>
> WEEKEND FIREBALLS:  A daylight fireball over Texas on Sunday, Feb. 15th,
> triggered widespread reports that debris from a recent satellite collision
> was falling to Earth. Those reports were premature. Researchers have studied
> video of the event and concluded that the object was more likely a natural
> meteoroid about one meter wide traveling more than 20 km/s--much faster than
> orbital debris.  Meteoroids hit Earth every day, and the Texas fireball was
> apparently one of them.
>
> There's more: On Friday, Feb. 13th, people in central Kentucky heard loud
> booms, felt their houses shake, and saw a fireball streaking through the
> sky. This occurred scant hours after another fireball at least 10 times
> brighter than a full Moon lit up the sky over Italy.  Although it is
> tempting to attribute these events to debris from the Feb. 10th collision of
> the Iridium 33 and Kosmos 2251 satellites, the Kentucky and Italy fireballs
> also seem to be meteoroids, not manmade objects. Italian scientists are
> studying the ground track of their fireball, which was recorded by multiple
> cameras, and they will soon begin to hunt for meteorites.
>
>


Re: CS>anyone see these fireballs?

2009-02-17 Thread Day Sutton
Global Warming; just ask Al Gore

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Clayton Family wrote:

> Space Weather News for Feb. 16, 2009
> http://spaceweather.com
>
> WEEKEND FIREBALLS:  A daylight fireball over Texas on Sunday, Feb. 15th,
> triggered widespread reports that debris from a recent satellite collision
> was falling to Earth. Those reports were premature. Researchers have studied
> video of the event and concluded that the object was more likely a natural
> meteoroid about one meter wide traveling more than 20 km/s--much faster than
> orbital debris.  Meteoroids hit Earth every day, and the Texas fireball was
> apparently one of them.
>
> There's more: On Friday, Feb. 13th, people in central Kentucky heard loud
> booms, felt their houses shake, and saw a fireball streaking through the
> sky. This occurred scant hours after another fireball at least 10 times
> brighter than a full Moon lit up the sky over Italy.  Although it is
> tempting to attribute these events to debris from the Feb. 10th collision of
> the Iridium 33 and Kosmos 2251 satellites, the Kentucky and Italy fireballs
> also seem to be meteoroids, not manmade objects. Italian scientists are
> studying the ground track of their fireball, which was recorded by multiple
> cameras, and they will soon begin to hunt for meteorites.
>
> Videos, eye-witness reports and more information about these events may be
> found at http://spaceweather.com.
>
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CS>anyone see these fireballs?

2009-02-17 Thread Clayton Family

Space Weather News for Feb. 16, 2009
http://spaceweather.com

WEEKEND FIREBALLS:  A daylight fireball over Texas on Sunday, Feb. 
15th, triggered widespread reports that debris from a recent satellite 
collision was falling to Earth. Those reports were premature. 
Researchers have studied video of the event and concluded that the 
object was more likely a natural meteoroid about one meter wide 
traveling more than 20 km/s--much faster than orbital debris.  
Meteoroids hit Earth every day, and the Texas fireball was apparently 
one of them.


There's more: On Friday, Feb. 13th, people in central Kentucky heard 
loud booms, felt their houses shake, and saw a fireball streaking 
through the sky. This occurred scant hours after another fireball at 
least 10 times brighter than a full Moon lit up the sky over Italy.  
Although it is tempting to attribute these events to debris from the 
Feb. 10th collision of the Iridium 33 and Kosmos 2251 satellites, the 
Kentucky and Italy fireballs also seem to be meteoroids, not manmade 
objects. Italian scientists are studying the ground track of their 
fireball, which was recorded by multiple cameras, and they will soon 
begin to hunt for meteorites.


Videos, eye-witness reports and more information about these events may 
be found at http://spaceweather.com.



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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread dingyung49
I have prill beads but hardly use it.    how do you know it takes out toxins? 
my blood test lead level very high!

--- On Tue, 2/17/09, mborg...@att.net  wrote:

From: mborg...@att.net 
Subject: Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 1:20 PM




Anyone try prill beads, we use it and it does take out most toxins
 
Mary
-- Original message from sol : 
-- 


> Marshall Dudley wrote: 
> > I think it is an excellent idea. However since it has not been 
> > determined whether the contamination is of lower or higher boiling 
> > point than water, the last should not be distilled either, the 
> > contamination may be coming over in the last 10% instead of the first 
> > 10%. 
> > 
> Ah, I've been running experiments, and in a second distilling pass the 
> first half came out .5 uS and the second half .8 uS. 
> What does this tell me about the boiling point of "x" ? Would that mean 
> it is higher or lower than the boiling point of water? 
> thanks, 
> sol 
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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread Marshall Dudley

sol wrote:

Marshall Dudley wrote:
I think it is an excellent idea. However since it has not been 
determined whether the contamination is of lower or higher boiling 
point than water, the last should not be distilled either, the 
contamination may be coming over in the last 10% instead of the first 
10%.


Ah, I've been running experiments, and in a second distilling pass the 
first half came out .5 uS and the second half .8 uS.
What does this tell me about the boiling point of "x" ? Would that 
mean it is higher or lower than the boiling point of water?

thanks,
It would be indicative of a lower vapor pressure, which equates with a 
higher boiling point.  Another possibility is splatter or entrainment, 
where particles of salt are getting transported to the condenser by 
splatter or steam movement (like dust in a wind).  As the water boils 
down, the salt content goes up, thus increasing the transfer of the 
particles.


Marshall

sol


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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread Marshall Dudley

sol wrote:

Marshall Dudley wrote:
Can you try some other sources of water, rainwater or from a spring 
maybe.
No springs or well water sources available here. Would have been 
interesting. Maybe if we ever get enough rain, but that won't likely 
be until April at least. If we get another good snowfall what about 
collecting some snow and using that water?

sol
Sure, as long as it isn't yellow.  Where do you live that there are no 
springs?


Marshall



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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread mborgert






Anyone try prill beads, we use it and it does take out most toxins
 
Mary
-- Original message from sol : -- > Marshall Dudley wrote: > > I think it is an excellent idea. However since it has not been > > determined whether the contamination is of lower or higher boiling > > point than water, the last should not be distilled either, the > > contamination may be coming over in the last 10% instead of the first > > 10%. > > > Ah, I've been running experiments, and in a second distilling pass the > first half came out .5 uS and the second half .8 uS. > What does this tell me about the boiling point of "x" ? Would that mean > it is higher or lower than the boiling point of water? > thanks, > sol > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > 






Re: CS>Consumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-17 Thread sol

Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
I don't want to clutter up the list with another discussion of water 
distiller brands, but wonder whether anyone has seen CR (no Consumer's 
Digest) ratings of WDs.   Information much appreciated.  
I am an online subscriber to CR but I can't find that they have ever 
reported on them at the CR website.

sol


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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread sol

Marshall Dudley wrote:
Can you try some other sources of water, rainwater or from a spring 
maybe.
No springs or well water sources available here. Would have been 
interesting. Maybe if we ever get enough rain, but that won't likely be 
until April at least. If we get another good snowfall what about 
collecting some snow and using that water?

sol


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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread sol

Marshall Dudley wrote:
I think it is an excellent idea. However since it has not been 
determined whether the contamination is of lower or higher boiling 
point than water, the last should not be distilled either, the 
contamination may be coming over in the last 10% instead of the first 
10%.


Ah, I've been running experiments, and in a second distilling pass the 
first half came out .5 uS and the second half .8 uS.
What does this tell me about the boiling point of "x" ? Would that mean 
it is higher or lower than the boiling point of water?

thanks,
sol


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RE: CS>Consumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-17 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Punch in Consumer's report water distiller on a search engine and you
will get several
Bob

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Consumer Reports on Distillers?

I don't want to clutter up the list with another discussion of water
distiller brands, but wonder whether anyone has seen CR (no Consumer's 
Digest) ratings of WDs.   Information much appreciated.Also a 
suggestion:  vendors might want to consider a package deal on EIS 
devices and distillers.   The best of all worlds, of course, would be 
an integrated device that distills, then generates EIS.   I bet there's 
a tidy little market out there. . .


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Re: CS>Fluoride & boiling water

2009-02-17 Thread Ode Coyote



  A good activated carbon filter should absorb 90% of it or better.

Ode


At 08:59 AM 2/16/2009 -0600, you wrote:

Since we're on the subject of fluoride, I thought I'd give a heads up to 
those with thyroid problems.  Several months ago I too read that boiling 
water (not distilling) increases the fluoride.  I don't have any of the 
materials I read back then to quote from now.


But having read that fluoride interferes with the thyroid, I have been 
drinking only distilled or reverse osmosis water and then adding minerals 
(ConcenTrace).  For coffee or hot tea or any other hot or cold drinks I 
only heat the small amount of DW or RO water that I need at that time.  I 
should probably also be using DW or RO water to cook vegetables as well, 
but that requires haulin lots of gallon jugs from the store.


I think I will research some RO units for under the sink as I have time 
this week.  Meantime, anyone with suggestions on the best bang for my buck 
on RO units, or any other suggestions on best utilizing the water and 
avoiding fluoride for best health, would be most welcome!


Thanks in advance!
Ruth


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Re: CS>fluoride removed by distilling?

2009-02-17 Thread Ode Coyote





##  Anything over the vaporization point will get rid of something at 
least as well as *at* that point.


Since water cools itself as it boils *by* releasing vapors, it won't go 
much over it's boiling temperature at a given atmospheric pressure.
 I would *think* that most distilled water is vacuum distilled as a by 
product of condensing foods. [Don't know if that's a fact..but maybe not as 
I recall smelling orange juice real strong around OJ packing plants in Florida]


Ode


I think it is an excellent idea. However since it has not been determined 
whether the contamination is of lower or higher boiling point than water, 
the last should not be distilled either, the contamination may be coming 
over in the last 10% instead of the first 10%.


Marshall


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