CS>Phages in Popular Science (April 2009)

[Jean Baugh]

Hi,

Has anyone else read the Popular Science article in the April 2009 issue,
about phages (bacteriophages)?  It seems to be a wonderful answer to
antibiotic resistant infections and is completely natural.  Problem is, how
to get it, even though it has been used since 1923 in the Soviet Republic of
Georgia and treated millions of patients.  Cost is  OTC at $2.00 a bottle.

I immediately thought of CS.  Then I thought of diabetic sores and leg sores
that won't heal.

Very interesting article if anyone is interested in reading it.  By
Elizabeth Scoboda.

Jean


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Re: CS>microwave CS

[Indi]

I use the HVAC cone method myself, with an extremely crude setup but it works
quite well. I just use a neon sign transformer which is rated for 12.5KV AC
at 300 milliamps (though in fact the average output is more like 4.8KV), a 
one gallon glass jar with a glass lid (from the container store online), and 
14ga . silver wire for electrodes. I use about a half-pint of my previous 
batch as starter and top the gallon jar off with distilled water. The 
transformer 
is plugged into a variac, so I can power it up slowly for safety. The trickiest 
part is to guard against arcing, but I've gotten pretty good at adjusting
the electrodes every couple of hours to maintain the cone. The bottom
electrode is about two feet long, and coiled at the bottom of the jar.
This setup makes a gallon of good, clear CS in 20-24 hours.
I don't have much faith in "PPM meters" or "EC meters", and calculation via  
Faraday's law is iffy unless you have perfectly controlled and tightly
monitored current so I don't bother with those. I planned to early on, but 
then found this setup works fine with a little care and attention. 
Besides, I can tell what good CS tastes like (tastes like silver, of course) 
and that works fine for me.  

I found some helpful information at
http://www.silvermedicine.org/bob-berger-silver.html
and at 
http://fugitt.com/cs_notes/

HTH,
-- 
indi





On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:42:15AM +0700, Pierre Genton wrote:
>Hi all-
> 
>Thanks for your comments on using the microwave components. I have tried a
>few batches using the microwave electronics and fear I am ending up with
>too large of particles. Even though I use only small electrodes now(wire)
>I cannot imagine getting the electrodes big enough to reduce the current
>density. I measured approx 300 ma of current. I would need an� electrode
>about 100 times bigger than the one I now use. any suggestions ?
> 
>�Has anyone here used just the microwave transformer alone for making HVAC
>CS?
> 
>Yesterday just for fun I tried a batch using 240 VAC . After some 20 hrs I
>have a crystal clear CS at about� 8ppm. I have no idea what the quality is
>but I am betting the particles are really tiny. The red laser pen shows a
>fairly light beam through the solution.
> 
>�Anybody have any comments on HVAC� and their favorite ways of making it ?
> 
>thanks
>�


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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[Sandy Hollis]

Hi John...

I can tell you I have had this problem myself to the point of being nearly 
deaf. I bought some CS and started putting some drops in my ears and by the 
next day the ringing was nearly gone. I feel I must have had a bad ear 
infection and was the cause of the tinnitus...actually I believe I have serious 
inflammation throughout my whole body due to extremely bad teeth and was my 
main reason for buying and using CS.

Best regards...

Sandy

Live and let live...

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, john freese  wrote:

From: john freese 
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 5:08 PM

Hello, 
Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.) 
I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.   
Thank you, John.


  


  

CS>microwave CS

[Pierre Genton]

Hi all-

Thanks for your comments on using the microwave components. I have tried a
few batches using the microwave electronics and fear I am ending up with too
large of particles. Even though I use only small electrodes now(wire) I
cannot imagine getting the electrodes big enough to reduce the current
density. I measured approx 300 ma of current. I would need an  electrode
about 100 times bigger than the one I now use. any suggestions ?

 Has anyone here used just the microwave transformer alone for making HVAC
CS?

Yesterday just for fun I tried a batch using 240 VAC . After some 20 hrs I
have a *crystal *clear CS at about  8ppm. I have no idea what the quality is
but I am betting the particles are really tiny. The red laser pen shows a
fairly light beam through the solution.

 Anybody have any comments on HVAC  and their favorite ways of making it ?

thanks

CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[john freese]

Thank you for all the suggestions. John.


  

Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[jr orrilia]

Also see
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/tinnitus.html





From: Smitty 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:41:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

> Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.)
> I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.
> Thank you, John.

You might look here  =
http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=399

Smitty


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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT) LONG RESPONSE

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi John,

> Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop *_Tinnitus_*_?_ (ringing*
> *in the ear.)
>
> I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.

Well, that may or may not be true, depending upon your ability to learn 
about what it is and isn't.


You have some studying to do...because there is a sufficiency of hype 
and bs as well as folks who seem to know what they are talking about.


First, it is necessary to determine the type of tinnitus you 
have...objective or subjective.  Subjective tinnitus occurs in the 
brain, not the ear.  Objective can be in the ear and can be an 
indication of something more serious.


A good otologist can do an exam, hearing test and a test for hyperacusis.

There is also Tinnitus Retraining Therapy...takes about 18-24mths...aka TRT.

Then there is a study being done at OHSU here in Portland using 
acamprosate, which is a drug used to help alcholics stay sober...I have 
heard that the test is loaded, no pun intended:)


Drugs can cause it, for example Welbutrin, Xanax and anti-biotics. 
Xanax is also a drug which helps some folks with it as well.


You may develop hyperacusis...become very sensitive to sounds that 
previously didn't bother you and by sensitive, I mean experience real 
pain from them.


There is a device called Neuromonics:

http://www.neuromonics.com

Costs about $US5,000...and by the time you calculate the probability 
that it will help you, its a toss up.  However, the military has given 
them a million dollar grant to test its effectiveness on 
troops...tinnitus is becoming the most significant after-effect of the 
Iraq war, following PTSD (and along with it).


I have tried it, made no progress in 30 days, so I returned it (there is 
a 30 day trial period with a money back guarantee (less a fee for the 
testing) and be sure to get that in writing.


This is a summary of other things that I have tried from a post on the 
tinnitus list I belong to:


The DTM-6B system, annoyed the devil out of me.

http://www.contactassist.com/timacd.html

I also bought the Luxe Vivant set of Five CD's and I was surprised at 
how differently I reacted to each of them and between digital and analog 
as well.  Wish they would do a White Fountain with analog white noise 
because I like the analog better...ultimately ended up liking the White 
Fountain best and have used it for nearly more than year all day, every 
day and every night to sleep...all night long.  I have never tired of 
it.  It isn't all that expensive for the five cd's:


http://www.luxevivant.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=82

Oddly enough, I have the two cd's from Immrama Institute and Luxe Vivant 
seems to be using their Clarity sounds...They are very similar, but the 
Luxe Vivant runs for an hour before starting again...I have found it to 
be better.


I had intended to order the Fan cd, but never felt the need.  On the 
above page there are samples, but they are not long enough to evaluate 
your "irritation" point:)  I had to listen to a couple for a good while 
to determine if they irritated me, a couple of others were just a few 
minutes.


I use these (Amazon has them for two prices  $160 and 49.95 the model is 
A8) There are comments about the cheaper ones being knock offs, so I 
bought the full priced ones:


http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=629

If I listen to music, I wear these with the white noise at a low level 
and can hear the music very well...for ME...the white noise just doesn't 
exist, but I believe part of the reason for that is that I tried a 
number of them and found one that didn't annoy me.


These also allow you to hear conversations and are very comforable and 
they are not EAR BUDS, they sit at the entrance to the ear not in the 
ear. These will work when flying as well, not noise canceling, but I 
turn the volume up a bit and do fine.


Also, at night I have a small cd player and use speakers and I play the 
white noise all night...my two cats love it as well.


When I travel, I have a portable set of speakers that I plug my Sansa 
mp3 player into so I can listen to the white noise at night, works fine.


In addition I have purchased a program called Neuro Programmer 2 from 
the Luxe Vivant site...if you get your ears tested and get a graph of 
everything then one might be able to use this program to set up some 
custom sounds.  I haven't had the time to do it yet.


I also use Etymotic ear plugs...they have a 20db reduction and when I am 
going to have to deal with noise (like the movies, concerts) I wear 
them...however...you get to hear your tinnitus very clearly, but you can 
hear the music/movie too.


Beyond this, I am still looking, although I get along just fine for the 
most part.


Apologize that this is so jumbled, but there is enough stuff here to get 
you started.


Good luck,

Craig




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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[Smitty]

> Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.)
> I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.
> Thank you, John.

You might look here  =
http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=399

Smitty


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RE: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[jessie70]

A friend had tinnitus for most of his adult life - from being in an elevator
shaft that blew up on a building construction site. Approximately a year ago
he mentioned that B complex + magnesium helped to clear it up. He also works
out a lot and takes herbs for brain circulation. So although he credits the
magnesium, I think it was probably a combination of herbs like ginkgo,
periwinkle, etc. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: MaryAnn Helland [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net]
  Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:36 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)


  Yah -- I have tinnitus -- and I've had to live with it.  Have been for
about ten years.  To answer the question regarding silver fillings -- yes I
do have them.  I'm in the process of having them removed, so I'm hoping (and
praying) that that'll reduce or eliminate the tinnitus.  For what it's worth
John -- you do sort of get used to it -- over time.  I don't notice it
unless I'm thinking about it.  And sometimes when I'm trying to go to sleep,
and of course the house is quiet, I'll notice it.  But when it first
started, I was aware of it all the time and it was very annoying.  So if you
do have to live with it -- it gets easier.  MA





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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:08:57 PM
  Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

Hello,

Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in
the ear.)

I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.

Thank you, John.

RE: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[Neville Munn]

I fear you will have to just grin and bear it .  I've had it for several 
years and although there are many and varied remedies offered by all and sundry 
to my knowledge there's no successful remedy.  Turn the radio up .  I think 
the most popular method of putting up with it is to have 'white noise' in the 
background, but to me that just replaces one 'noise' with another, or is an 
additional 'noise' to the one I already have.

 

I wish you luck in finding a cure though.

 

N.
 


Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:08:57 -0700
From: jrf...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT)






Hello,

Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.)

I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.  

Thank you, John.


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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[MaryAnn Helland]

Yah -- I have tinnitus -- and I've had to live with it.  Have been for about 
ten years.  To answer the question regarding silver fillings -- yes I do have 
them.  I'm in the process of having them removed, so I'm hoping (and praying) 
that that'll reduce or eliminate the tinnitus.  For what it's worth John -- you 
do sort of get used to it -- over time.  I don't notice it unless I'm thinking 
about it.  And sometimes when I'm trying to go to sleep, and of course the 
house is quiet, I'll notice it.  But when it first started, I was aware of it 
all the time and it was very annoying.  So if you do have to live with it -- it 
gets easier.  MA





From: john freese 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:08:57 PM
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT)


Hello, 
Does anybody have suggestions on how to stopTinnitus?(ringingin the ear.) 
I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.   
Thank you, John. 

Re: CS>Silver plate

[ZZekelink]

Just go out & put them on the railroad tracks. Let the  train do the 
flattening---We did that with pennies when we were kids & It  did a Great job.. 
:-)  Lois
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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[ZZekelink]

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Re: CS>Tea Party Patriots Health Care Freedom To Do List for This Week

[ZZekelink]

I'm sorry but I do enjoy these little trips off topic once in  awhile. Esp 
when they get a bit testy & then & the humor.   {  I loved the one with the 
"bat with a stinger"  }} I just dried mint  & made tea yesterday--It's in 
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Re: CS>Gel Powder

[Annie B Smythe]

Get some carbonmer or carbomer as the gelling agent...I can't remember 
the correct spelling right off the bat... There are also some organic 
gel makers around somewhere...But it's been a while since I looked them 
up...


You don't need much in the way of anything...warm your essential oil a 
tad...put in a little pure beeswax... put your oil and beeswax in a 
blender and slowly add your CS while blending...Wala CS creme. Don't 
let your cream get hot or it separates...But if it does just reblend it 
in the blender...


There's a video I've got bookmarked somewhere or other that shows all 
the steps... When I find it I'll post the link okay?


That's what Mayo is. It's mostly oil and some eggs blended with spices 
and stuff..


Annie


Dan Nave wrote:

I didn't think you could mix oil and water, but, as you say, with God,
all things are possible...

Dan

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Scotty wrote:
  

What are you folks using as a CS and essential oil binder?

Scott <><
"With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27










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Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[john freese]

No silver fillings.No metal at all.

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Deborah Gerard  wrote:


From: Deborah Gerard 
Subject: Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:28 PM






Do you have silver fillings in your mouth?

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, john freese  wrote:


From: john freese 
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:08 PM







Hello, 
Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.) 
I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.   
Thank you, John.





  

Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[john freese]

No silver fillings.No 

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Deborah Gerard  wrote:


From: Deborah Gerard 
Subject: Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:28 PM






Do you have silver fillings in your mouth?

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, john freese  wrote:


From: john freese 
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:08 PM







Hello, 
Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.) 
I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.   
Thank you, John.





  

Re: CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[Deborah Gerard]

Do you have silver fillings in your mouth?

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, john freese  wrote:


From: john freese 
Subject: CS>Tinnitus (OT)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:08 PM







Hello, 
Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.) 
I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.   
Thank you, John.



  

CS>Tinnitus (OT)

[john freese]

Hello,
Does anybody have suggestions on how to stop Tinnitus? (ringing in the ear.)
I talked to my doctor. He pretty much said I have to live with it.  
Thank you, John.


  

Re: CS>Gel Powder

[Norton, Steve]

Do you need the two to mix? If you put the CS and essential in a closed 
container and shake won't the ionic silver bind with substances in the 
essential oil? Do you need a homogeneous mixture?
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thu Jul 30 16:43:48 2009
Subject: Re: CS>Gel Powder

That is why it says "binder".  With the appropriate binder, you can mix 
oil and water.  Take some water, add a few drops of oil to the water, 
then add a few drops of dishwashing soap, and shake.  The soap binder 
will allow the oil and water to mix.

Marshall

Dan Nave wrote:
> I didn't think you could mix oil and water, but, as you say, with God,
> all things are possible...
>
> Dan
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Scotty wrote:
>   
>> What are you folks using as a CS and essential oil binder?
>>
>> Scott <><
>> "With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
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Re: CS>Gel Powder

[Marshall Dudley]

That is why it says "binder".  With the appropriate binder, you can mix 
oil and water.  Take some water, add a few drops of oil to the water, 
then add a few drops of dishwashing soap, and shake.  The soap binder 
will allow the oil and water to mix.


Marshall

Dan Nave wrote:

I didn't think you could mix oil and water, but, as you say, with God,
all things are possible...

Dan

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Scotty wrote:
  

What are you folks using as a CS and essential oil binder?

Scott <><
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Re: CS>Tea Party Patriots Health Care Freedom To Do List for This Week

[Indi]

Don't believe those nasty rumors.
;)

-- 
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 04:54:38PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> NOo Not YOUR biscuits...
> Nothing actually DEADLY
> 
>   Chuck
> If the economy can only get better or worse, why aren't economists
> right half the time?
> 
> 
> On 7/30/2009 2:59:13 PM, Indi (indi.sha...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > I'll bring the biscuits; we can have a full-fledged food fight!
> > 
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Re: CS>Tea Party Patriots Health Care Freedom To Do List for This Week

[cking001]

NOo Not YOUR biscuits...
Nothing actually DEADLY

Chuck
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right half the time?


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Re: CS>Silver plate

[cking001]

That's what I did.
Heat it up with a propane torch and hammer the bejeezes out of it.
(An anvil is handy)
 Then cut it up with tin shears.

Chuck
If I were any more convenient, I'd be a nuisance


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(robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil) wrote:
> Any draw backs to taking a hammer on an anvil to a pair of Canadian
> silver Maple Leaf coins
> (99.99) and flattening them out for increased surface area. The right
> way would be a rolling
> Mill but they are not cheap. Even with the rolling mill I wonder if you
> would have to heat up the silver
> To soften it first. I have found the Canadian coins the cheapest way to
> buy silver.
> Bob
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Re: CS>using microwave parts

[cking001]

Marshall
Duncan's HVDC generator from microwave parts (scroll down a bit)
http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/colloidal_silver.html

It's what I use now, after going thru the various stages we've used
including HVAC.

Not for the careless or electrically unknowledgeable.

Chuck
If all the economists in the world were laid end to end, they'd point
in different directions


On 7/30/2009 11:46:08 AM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com)
wrote:
> Using microwave parts is extremely dangerous.  The voltages are high,
> the capacitances big, and currents unlimited.  There has been some
> discussion of using microwave transformers, but I thought those were for
> HVAC not HVDC.  I see no way to produce small particle CS using high
> voltage DC as the currents would be way over the optimum of 1 mA/in^2
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Pierre Genton wrote:
> > Hi-
> >
> >  I am new to the group here. I was referred to this list by a fellow
> > who says there was some experience here amongst your ranks using
> > microwave transformers and capacitors etc to make CS using high
> > voltage DC.
> > I wanted to go to the archives to have a look around but that section
> > is not functioning at the moment and so I thought I'd just ask the
> > group instead.
> >  I have been using low dc Volt system for making a fine quality CS for
> > 5 years already. Because of demand from family and friends I need to
> > increase my production.
> >
> >  I found some instructions on the internet from a kind fellow on how
> > to connect the microwave components together to create such a system
> > but not much more details then that unfortunately.  I tri
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Re: CS>Silver plate

[Sam L.]

Hi Bob
If you could find a silversmith or jewery maker in your area they could roll
the coins out for you. I used silver bars and have 2 inch by 4 inch
electrodes.
Have them clean the rollers on the rolling mill real good beforehand.
Sam L.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC <
robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil> wrote:

> Any draw backs to taking a hammer on an anvil to a pair of Canadian
> silver Maple Leaf coins
> (99.99) and flattening them out for increased surface area. The right
> way would be a rolling
> Mill but they are not cheap. Even with the rolling mill I wonder if you
> would have to heat up the silver
> To soften it first. I have found the Canadian coins the cheapest way to
> buy silver.
> Bob
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Re: CS>Tea Party Patriots Health Care Freedom To Do List for This Week

[Indi]

I'll bring the biscuits; we can have a full-fledged food fight!

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:52:53PM -0500, Clayton Family wrote:
> Oh Goody- a Tea Party fight!
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>   You don't know the rules, you aren't the list cop.
>> Ode
>>
>>
>> At 07:53 PM 7/29/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>> You know the rules. This does NOT belong on this list.
>>>  - Steve N
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Re: CS>Tea Party Patriots Health Care Freedom To Do List for This Week

[Clayton Family]

Oh Goody- a Tea Party fight!


On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:




  You don't know the rules, you aren't the list cop.
Ode


At 07:53 PM 7/29/2009 -0500, you wrote:


You know the rules. This does NOT belong on this list.
 - Steve N





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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS - speaking of gel

[Clayton Family]

Speaking of gel, there is a local company that is making and selling a 
product made with aloe vera gel and silver. I have heard that the 
silver process is similar to the sovereign silver, ie ionic. He has has 
good reports from it, so it says on his site, which is ionic silver 
works dot com, all in one word, of course.


Kathryn

On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

 Didn't know if it did work, for that very reason, but it does, so 
there must be something else to it.

Could it be.

 Liquid interface as the highly hygroscopic "pulling" attributes draw 
out body fluids to replace that which is evaporating from the gels 
*exposed to drier air* surface.

Infections and wounds are generally wet.

Ode


At 01:59 PM 7/29/2009 -1000, you wrote:

How does CS gel work if it is in a gel like medium?

shar



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Re: CS>Electrolytes

[Dan Nave]

Wikipedia states that corn syrup is 100% glucose,

while high fructose corn syrup ranges from approximately 55% fructose
and 45% glucose to approximately 42% fructose and 58% glucose.

It also says that table sugar is a disaccharide of glucose and fructose.

Dan


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup

"High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) – called isoglucose[1] in Europe and
glucose-fructose in Canada – comprises any of a group of corn syrups
that has undergone enzymatic processing to convert its glucose into
fructose and has then been mixed with pure corn syrup (100% glucose)
to produce a desired sweetness. In the United States, HFCS is
typically used as a sugar substitute and is ubiquitous in processed
foods and beverages, including soft drinks, yogurt, cookies, salad
dressing and tomato soup.[2]

"The most widely used types of high-fructose corn syrup are: HFCS 55
(mostly used in soft drinks), approximately 55% fructose and 45%
glucose; and HFCS 42 (used in many foods and baked goods),
approximately 42% fructose and 58% glucose.[3] HFCS-90, approximately
90% fructose and 10% glucose, is used in small quantities for
specialty applications, but primarily is used to blend with HFCS 42 to
make HFCS 55. [4]"

Table Sugar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_sugar

Sucrose (common name: table sugar, also called saccharose) is a
disaccharide of glucose and fructose with an α (alpha) 1,2 glycosidic
linkage. The molecular formula of sucrose is C12H22O11. Its systematic
name is β-D-fructofuranosyl-(2→1)-α-D-glucopyranoside (ending in
"oside", because it's not a reducing sugar). It is best known for its
role in human nutrition and is formed by plants but not by other
organisms including animals.



On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Sugar, both cane and beet is sucrose. Corn Syrup is fructose.
>
> Marshall


> Jean Baugh wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dee,
>>
>> I have two bottles of corn syrup.  One is corn syrup, water, potassium
>> sorbate, vanilla and citric acid.  The other is light corn syrup, water,
>> high fructose corn syrup, salt and vanilla.  Actually, neither one of them
>> sound good.
>> Perhaps someone who knows chemicals could tell us if there is a difference
>> between sugar and corn syrup?
>>
>>
>
> Sugar, both cane and beet is sucrose. Corn Syrup is fructose.
>
> Marshall
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Re: CS>Gel Powder

[Indi]

Cows do it all the time.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emulsion

No idea what to use to create an emulsion of essential oil and CS though...


-- 
indi

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:10:36PM -0500, Dan Nave wrote:
> I didn't think you could mix oil and water, but, as you say, with God,
> all things are possible...
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Scotty wrote:
> > What are you folks using as a CS and essential oil binder?
> >
> > Scott <><
> > "With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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CS>Silver plate

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Any draw backs to taking a hammer on an anvil to a pair of Canadian
silver Maple Leaf coins
(99.99) and flattening them out for increased surface area. The right
way would be a rolling 
Mill but they are not cheap. Even with the rolling mill I wonder if you
would have to heat up the silver 
To soften it first. I have found the Canadian coins the cheapest way to
buy silver.
Bob


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Re: CS>Gel Powder

[Dan Nave]

I didn't think you could mix oil and water, but, as you say, with God,
all things are possible...

Dan

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Scotty wrote:
> What are you folks using as a CS and essential oil binder?
>
> Scott <><
> "With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: CS>Project [censored] again?

[Indi]

Oh, so you must think you're the list cop then? :)

I know the rules too, but frankly when the [characterization censored] 
posts start up I'm always happy to see anyone speak up against them.  
Nips it in the bud, so to speak. 

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:35:23AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>
>   You don't know the rules, you aren't the list cop.
> Ode
>
>
> At 07:53 PM 7/29/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> You know the rules. This does NOT belong on this list.
>>  - Steve N
>
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Re: CS>using microwave parts

[Marshall Dudley]

Using microwave parts is extremely dangerous.  The voltages are high, 
the capacitances big, and currents unlimited.  There has been some 
discussion of using microwave transformers, but I thought those were for 
HVAC not HVDC.  I see no way to produce small particle CS using high 
voltage DC as the currents would be way over the optimum of 1 mA/in^2


Marshall

Pierre Genton wrote:

Hi-

 I am new to the group here. I was referred to this list by a fellow 
who says there was some experience here amongst your ranks using 
microwave transformers and capacitors etc to make CS using high 
voltage DC.
I wanted to go to the archives to have a look around but that section 
is not functioning at the moment and so I thought I'd just ask the 
group instead.
 I have been using low dc Volt system for making a fine quality CS for 
5 years already. Because of demand from family and friends I need to 
increase my production.


 I found some instructions on the internet from a kind fellow on how 
to connect the microwave components together to create such a system 
but not much more details then that unfortunately.  I tried it and the 
initial results are encouraging. I only have a TDS meter on hand and 
so am not really sure about the quality of the product. Also I only 
had wire type of electrodes and did not have the wider pieces of 
silver and so I fear I am making too large of particles.


 Has anybody here used this type of system and if so have they had 
their product analyzed for true ppm, particle size and  % of 
ionic/colloid content etc. ?


any information on this will be appreciated.

best regards,

PG50




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Re: CS>Tea Party Patriots Health Care Freedom To Do List for This Week

[Ode Coyote]

  You don't know the rules, you aren't the list cop.
Ode


At 07:53 PM 7/29/2009 -0500, you wrote:


You know the rules. This does NOT belong on this list.
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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS in the Labratory

[Ode Coyote]

  Didn't know if it did work, for that very reason, but it does, so there 
must be something else to it.

Could it be.

 Liquid interface as the highly hygroscopic "pulling" attributes draw out 
body fluids to replace that which is evaporating from the gels *exposed to 
drier air* surface.

Infections and wounds are generally wet.

Ode


At 01:59 PM 7/29/2009 -1000, you wrote:

How does CS gel work if it is in a gel like medium?

shar




On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ode Coyote 
<odecoy...@windstream.net> wrote:


 The body isn't agar.
 Have him test it in a liquid medium.
Or actually flood the sample with dilute CS that would mimic being washed 
with body fluids.


What he demonstrated is why CS doesn't kill the flora in the gut.

Ode



At 09:09 AM 7/27/2009 -0500, you wrote:

I gave some Colloidal Silver solution to an old friend of mine that I
met at a reunion who happens to be a microbiologist.  I happened to
have some CS with me and he was intrigued with it and said he was
willing to do some tests of it's effectivity.  I have included his
response below.  If anyone has some suggestions on how to test it
properly, please let me know.  Also, any relevant reference as well.

He says:

"I tested the colloidal silver solution using the methodology that we
use in the lab to test standardized antibiotics.  I created a lawn of
bacteria of known density on agar plates, and then placed a drop of
the silver solution in the center of the plate, which then diffused
through the bacteria and into the agar medium.   None of the 9 most
commonly encountered organisms showed any zone of inhibition.  The
organisms I used in this experiment were E. coli, E. coli (ESBL),
Staph. aureus and MRSA, Enterococcus, Pseudomonas aeruginosa,
Moraxella cattarrhalis, Group A beta Strep, and Streptococcus
pneumoniae.

 "I have to google the subject as I am surprised that there was no
inhibitory effect what so ever at the dosage level direct from the
bottle you provided.  I am wondering whether in vivo there is another
mechanism utilized that is not demonstrated by my plate technique.
I'm interested in knowing more, so if you have some references please
pass them on."


Thanks,

Dan


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