Re: CSnew @ this

2009-10-28 Thread Ode Coyote



  Most likely, the meter on milliamps hooked up in series with the 
electrodes is to monitor current so you can keep it down with the sliding 
potentiometer.
Once you have the current stabilized, you can hook up the meter in parallel 
on volts and monitor voltage drop.


When it goes down to some point, time to turn it off.

It does manually, what an automatic generator does automatically, keeping 
current constant and turning itself off when the voltage drops to some 
given point when the conductivity of the water gets up to a certain point.


Ode



At 12:12 PM 10/27/2009 -0400, you wrote:

Greetings,
I just bought the Half-Gallon Colloidal Silver Generator from Atlas
Nova.  This kit comes with a multi-meter.  Anyone know of a link
explaining the use of this meter to current and when the brew is done?
Thanks,
Maxi


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Re: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-10-28 Thread Ode Coyote



 The assembly is added value over the parts and the parts added value over 
the raw materials.

 Any time you do anything, it has a value added.
 But with a 50 pound limit, if you do it real slow, you get to keep your 
efforts.


 VAT sucks like a Hoover adding the value of negative pressure to the air 
itself.


Grounds for hanging a few politicians, if you ask me...but another one 
would just tax the swing because losing one adds value to the society.

 Funny that most of them are lawyers.
 Whelp, You can buy enough powder to blow one to Hell for less than 50 
pounds..but that adds 500 pounds of value.


 Can't win.

Ode

At 12:42 PM 10/27/2009 -0500, you wrote:

If you were importing a Colloidal Silver maker, you could buy one of
the units which is merely a battery, leads, resistor, and some silver
electrodes.  You could argue that there was really no value added, so
it should be exempt from the tax...

Dan

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 I think it has to have VAT added if its over something like £50 Bob - 
in the

 UK that is.  dee

 On 27 Oct 2009, at 10:55, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:

 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE

 If you know someone out of Country can they send you something without
 paying Taxes (as a gift).
 Even if you pay them on the side. See below for $79.

 Bob



 $79 is cheapest I found
 http://www.we-beat-prices.com/




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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-28 Thread Ode Coyote



  A TDS, in effect reads in every OTHER digit of conductivity..not even 
whole numbers.


That's something like 40% as good as a COM-100

Ode



At 10:27 PM 10/27/2009 -0600, you wrote:

Ode Coyote wrote:


The HM Digital AP2 and EC3 conductivity meters are 90% as good as a 
COM-100. AS good ...except they don't read in 10ths of a uS, whole

numbers only.


LOL, I thought that is what I said? I need a meter that reads in 10ths of 
a uS. A TDS is not adequate for my needs.

sol


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CSHNPP

2009-10-28 Thread Marshall Dudley

My son in law has this disorder: *http://www.hnpp.org/whatis.htm

My granddaughter is now showing signs of it.  Does anyone have any 
information on this, or a remedy?  It is caused by **demyelinating.


thanks,

Marshall
*


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Re: CSHNPP

2009-10-28 Thread Garnet
If there is a genetic component it may be auto immune. LDN 
is helpful
in many auto immune disorders. It has been show to stop the 
progression
of MS including demyelinations in at least 70 - 80% of 
patients.


Starting with a very low dose just twice a week is a great 
way to ease

into the therapy.

There are a number of Yahoo lists and info sites.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone

Discusses very low dose and interval dosing.

Information is spread out over many sites and lists because 
there is not
enough formal dose response data across all conditions so 
that patient

reports are the main source of info, not unlike CS.

Personally I take 0.5 mg twice a week, very low and spread 
out but
it is working for my allergies and I will slowly increase, 
but some
go right to 4.5 mg every night. Depends on your individual 
reaction.


Worth looking into since it is cheap and low tox, also has many
fringe benefits of preventing cancer, colds, flus, improving 
general

health.

www.alldaychemist.com sells 50 mg tabs without an Rx, which can
be diluted in 50 ml of distilled water to produce a 1 mg/ml 
solution.


Many people use these tablets for years with great results 
in their

severe MS and other conditions.

Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Marshall Dudley wrote:

My son in law has this disorder: *http://www.hnpp.org/whatis.htm

My granddaughter is now showing signs of it.  Does anyone have any 
information on this, or a remedy?  It is caused by **demyelinating.


thanks,

Marshall
*


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Re: CSHNPP

2009-10-28 Thread Donna

It is inherited and here is some sites to read about it!

http://www.hnpp.org/treatment.htm
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/medical/hnpp.htm
http://www.charcot-marie-tooth.org/about_cmt/treatment.php

Donna ACS

My son in law has this disorder: *http://www.hnpp.org/whatis.htm

My granddaughter is now showing signs of it.  Does anyone have any 
information on this, or a remedy?  It is caused by **demyelinating.


thanks,

Marshall
*


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Re: CSnew @ this

2009-10-28 Thread Max Schanfarber
Thanks Ode!
I want to brew a batch for the nebulizer. I'm guessing 5 to 10 PPM
will still give me a small enough particle size.
Can you recommend a shut off target voltage?  Any guidance will be
greatly appreciated!
Maxi






On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:


  Most likely, the meter on milliamps hooked up in series with the electrodes
 is to monitor current so you can keep it down with the sliding
 potentiometer.
 Once you have the current stabilized, you can hook up the meter in parallel
 on volts and monitor voltage drop.

 When it goes down to some point, time to turn it off.

 It does manually, what an automatic generator does automatically, keeping
 current constant and turning itself off when the voltage drops to some given
 point when the conductivity of the water gets up to a certain point.

 Ode



 At 12:12 PM 10/27/2009 -0400, you wrote:

 Greetings,
 I just bought the Half-Gallon Colloidal Silver Generator from Atlas
 Nova.  This kit comes with a multi-meter.  Anyone know of a link
 explaining the use of this meter to current and when the brew is done?
 Thanks,
 Maxi


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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-28 Thread cking001
Yes,
So knowing what product  NOT to buy is also useful information...

Chuck
Never let your schooling interfere with your education   


On 10/28/2009 12:27:21 AM, sol (sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com) wrote:
 Ode Coyote wrote:
 
 
  The HM Digital AP2 and EC3 conductivity meters are 90% as good as a
  COM-100. AS good ...except they don't read in 10ths of a uS, whole
  numbers only.
 
 LOL, I thought that is what I said? I need a meter that reads in 10ths
 of a uS. A TDS is not adequate for my needs.
 sol
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CSFwd: colloidal silver

2009-10-28 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have forwarded this message from the woman who wrote the article in  
reply to my email I sent her.  Has anyone a really pertinent article  
to send her?  I have some but want one which says it all!  dee


Begin forwarded message:


From: HealthJournal healthjour...@wsj.com
Date: 27 October 2009 17:17:16 GMT
To: 'Dorothy Fitzpatrick' d...@deetroy.org
Subject: RE: colloidal silver

  Dorothy -- that's very interesting. I hadn't heard of electrically  
isolated silver.

  Are there any studies you can send me on it?

  -Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:10 PM
To: HealthJournal
Subject: colloidal silver

  Your article is misinformed to say the least.  I and many others  
make

  a substance known as electrically isolated silver which we use on a
  daily basis on ourselves and our animals.  A dog which is off its  
food
  and listless goes to being well in four hours when given this, and  
you

  can't brainwash dogs.
  Two pups get parvo; one is treated by the vet with anti-biotics and
  dies, while the other is given silver both orally and as an enema  
and

  lives.  These are not isolated cases and occur on a daily basis.  I
  have cured abscesses, toothache, glandular fever, 'flu, sickness and
  diarrhoea, and loads of other things just using electrically  
islolated
  silver.  Please stop publishing articles about a subject of which  
you

  know nothing!
  As far as argyria is concerned, The Blue Man was NOT making
  electrically isolated silver, he was making silver salts, which  
was a

  completely different substance.  He was also offered a 'cure' by
  members of my list, but declined, as he is doing quite nicely out of
  being blue!  He is also, (apart from the colour)  very healthy!

  D Fitzpatrick




Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-10-28 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Question What would a small electric distiller have to be made of to Brew
Alcohol.
I do not think the Aluminum Condenser top would work.
The Stainless Steel bottom should be OK.
In  case someone wanted to try making fuel (naturally) on a small scale of
course.
You would have to get the proper paper work (naturally), just to see it
work.
I know someone who makes Diesel fuel from old cooking oil.

Bob 
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE




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Re: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-10-28 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick

No, it was a distiller.  dee

On 27 Oct 2009, at 17:42, Dan Nave wrote:


If you were importing a Colloidal Silver maker, you could buy one of
the units which is merely a battery, leads, resistor, and some silver
electrodes.  You could argue that there was really no value added, so
it should be exempt from the tax...

Dan




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Re: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-10-28 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
You never said a truer word Ode, you can't win,  there's always  
someone waiting to take the hard earned money from you, to make their  
lives easier i.e. politicians expenses over here springs to mind!  dee


On 28 Oct 2009, at 11:00, Ode Coyote wrote:




The assembly is added value over the parts and the parts added value  
over the raw materials.

Any time you do anything, it has a value added.
But with a 50 pound limit, if you do it real slow, you get to keep  
your efforts.


VAT sucks like a Hoover adding the value of negative pressure to the  
air itself.


Grounds for hanging a few politicians, if you ask me...but another  
one would just tax the swing because losing one adds value to the  
society.

Funny that most of them are lawyers.
Whelp, You can buy enough powder to blow one to Hell for less than  
50 pounds..but that adds 500 pounds of value.


Can't win.

Ode




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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-28 Thread sol

Ode Coyote wrote:



  A TDS, in effect reads in every OTHER digit of conductivity..not even 
whole numbers.


That's something like 40% as good as a COM-100
Please clarify this for me. A TDS' smallest reading is 1.0? If that is 
right what you are saying is that the actual microsiemens reading of a 
TDS showing 1.0 is 2.0 microsiemens? Yes? No?

thanks,
sol


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Re: CSEC meter

2009-10-28 Thread cking001
It's even tougher for a 0 reading...Could be 100 times multiplier...
BWAHAHAHAHA

Chuck
Never make anything simple and efficient when it can be complex and
wonderful


On 10/28/2009 8:29:51 PM, sol (sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com) wrote:
 Ode Coyote wrote:
 
 
A TDS, in effect reads in every OTHER digit of conductivity..not even
 
  whole numbers.
 
 
 That's something like 40% as good as a COM-100
 Please clarify this for me. A TDS'
 smallest reading is 1.0? If that is
 right what you are saying is that the actual microsiemens reading of a
 TDS showing 1.0 is 2.0 microsiemens? Yes? No?
 thanks,
 sol
 
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Re: CSDistiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-10-28 Thread Craig Chamberlin

Hi Bob,

They are all over the place...I believe it is legal to make some amount of

http://www.milehidistilling.com/Mr_Distiller_trade_p/16050.htm

http://www.essentialoil.com/copperdistillers.html

http://www.basementshaman.com/eadi.html

This is a good site:

http://www.moonshine-still.com/page2.htm

Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Question What would a small electric distiller have to be made of to Brew
Alcohol.
I do not think the Aluminum Condenser top would work.
The Stainless Steel bottom should be OK.
In  case someone wanted to try making fuel (naturally) on a small scale of
course.
You would have to get the proper paper work (naturally), just to see it
work.
I know someone who makes Diesel fuel from old cooking oil.

Bob 
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED

Caveats: NONE


  



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Re: CSDistiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2009-10-28 Thread Craig Chamberlin

Meant to finish that thought:)

I believe it is legal to make some amount of wine and beer (I know beer 
is legal) but to further distill it into spirits isn't legal.


Craig


Question What would a small electric distiller have to be made of to Brew
Alcohol.
I do not think the Aluminum Condenser top would work.
The Stainless Steel bottom should be OK.
In  case someone wanted to try making fuel (naturally) on a small scale of
course.
You would have to get the proper paper work (naturally), just to see it
work.
I know someone who makes Diesel fuel from old cooking oil.

Bob 
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED

Caveats: NONE


  



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