Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

2009-12-30 Thread John E. Stevens
Good advice, Dave.  Pantothenic Acid has always been a good stress reducer.
I've been taking a minimum of 100 - 200 mg daily for 35 years.

John

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Medical researchers studying vitamin B 5 or pantothenic acid noticed
 that it could, in what seemed to be megadoses (compared to the minimum
 daily requirement) largely reverse certain degenerative effects of
 aging. These researchers were measuring endurance in rats as it
 decreased through the aging process. How they made this measurement
 may appear to some readers to be heartless, but the best way to gauge
 the endurance of a rat is to toss it into a five gallon bucket of cold
 water and see how long it swims before it drowns. Under these
 conditions, the researcher can be absolutely confident that the rat
 does its very best to stay alive.

 Young healthy rats can swim for 45 minutes in 50° Fahrenheit water
 before drowning. Old rats can only last about 15 minutes. And old rats
 swim differently, less efficiently, with their lower bodies more or
 less vertical, sort of dog paddling. But when old rats were fed
 pantothenic acid at a very high dose for a few weeks before the test,
 they swam 45 minutes too. And swam more efficiently, like the young
 rats did. More interestingly, their coats changed color (the gray went
 away) and improved in texture; they began to appear like young rats.
 And the rats on megadoses of B 5 lived lot longer–25 to 33 percent
 longer than rats not on large doses of B 5. Does that mean megadoses
 of B 5 have an unknown drug-like effect? Or does that mean the real
 nutritional requirement for B 5 is a lot higher than most people
 think? I believe the second choice is correct. To give you an idea of
 how much B 5 the old rats were given in human terms, the FDA says the
 minimum daily requirement for B 5 is about 10 milligrams but if humans
 took as much B 5 as the rats, they would take about 750 milligrams per
 day.

 Incidentally, I figure I am as worthy as any lab rat and take over
 500 milligrams daily.


 How and When to Be Your Own Doctor
 by Dr. Isabelle A. Moser with Steve Solomon

 http://starthealthylife.com/page263.htm

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Re: CS...these videos are about Autism

2009-12-30 Thread Ode Coyote

At 12:20 PM 12/29/2009 -0600, you wrote:

Your unconscious bias is noted...

You wrote, Ode..neither a far left enviro-wacko nor far right burn
it, baby. 

##  OK  Fill me in...what IS that bias? [I'm not conscious of it, right?]

Ode 



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Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

2009-12-30 Thread Steve G
Hey,  I'm an old lab rat!  56 years old and although I'm pretty active and 
healthy and reasonably fit, I'm nowhere near as able as I was when I was a 
young lab rat.   

Tell me, John, how long have you been taking your 500 mg a day?   How old when 
you started?  And, most importantly, was there an obvious change in your energy 
and health when you started this level of supplementation?

Thanks,  Steve G.


--- On Wed, 12/30/09, John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com wrote:

From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 AM

Good advice, Dave.  Pantothenic Acid has always been a good stress reducer.  
I've been taking a minimum of 100 - 200 mg daily for 35 years.   

John  

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

Medical researchers studying vitamin B 5 or pantothenic acid noticed

that it could, in what seemed to be megadoses (compared to the minimum

daily requirement) largely reverse certain degenerative effects of

aging. These researchers were measuring endurance in rats as it

decreased through the aging process. How they made this measurement

may appear to some readers to be heartless, but the best way to gauge

the endurance of a rat is to toss it into a five gallon bucket of cold

water and see how long it swims before it drowns. Under these

conditions, the researcher can be absolutely confident that the rat

does its very best to stay alive.



Young healthy rats can swim for 45 minutes in 50° Fahrenheit water

before drowning. Old rats can only last about 15 minutes. And old rats

swim differently, less efficiently, with their lower bodies more or

less vertical, sort of dog paddling. But when old rats were fed

pantothenic acid at a very high dose for a few weeks before the test,

they swam 45 minutes too. And swam more efficiently, like the young

rats did. More interestingly, their coats changed color (the gray went

away) and improved in texture; they began to appear like young rats.

And the rats on megadoses of B 5 lived lot longer–25 to 33 percent

longer than rats not on large doses of B 5. Does that mean megadoses

of B 5 have an unknown drug-like effect? Or does that mean the real

nutritional requirement for B 5 is a lot higher than most people

think? I believe the second choice is correct. To give you an idea of

how much B 5 the old rats were given in human terms, the FDA says the

minimum daily requirement for B 5 is about 10 milligrams but if humans

took as much B 5 as the rats, they would take about 750 milligrams per

day.



Incidentally, I figure I am as worthy as any lab rat and take over

500 milligrams daily.





How and When to Be Your Own Doctor

by Dr. Isabelle A. Moser with Steve Solomon



http://starthealthylife.com/page263.htm



Read on-line or have the free e-book e-mailed to you from that site.





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Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

2009-12-30 Thread Pat
And do you have grey hair, John? 

I'd always heard that if you take part of the B complex without the rest, you 
could cause a deficiency of the others since they all work together.  I used to 
take B complex that had to dissolve under the tongue, but B is so gross tasting 
that it was a real chore.  I now just get what's in my Life Extension twice a 
day multi.

My daughter takes oral B-12 and she's just 30.  She says her skin isn't so 
flaky when she uses it.  Does anyone else know of a reason to use it?  My B-12 
blood test came out normal, whatever that is.  I never have learned much about 
that oneprobably didn't worry since I eat meat every day.

Pat


  


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Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

2009-12-30 Thread John E. Stevens
Hey, Pat:

My hair had turned all gray by the time I was 30, but now at 68 yrs old, my
hair is turning all blond...  About the same colr it was in my pre-teensw.
Weird...  It may be the HGH activator I've been taking for about five years
- maybe longer, but my friends are amazed at my new blond crop which is very
full, thick and healthy.  I'm sure the B-Complex has a lot to do with it,
too.  I take a B-Complex, but separate B6, B12, and folate (organic whole
food sources) because the organic whole food sources are so good.  I've been
taking supplements for 35 years.  I also take whole food sources of Selenium
and GTF Chromium - which are superior.
Flaky skin on your daughter might ende with a good source of Cod Liver Oil,
and/or fish oil capsules, and vitamin D3.  I take all of my supplements with
meals for synergistic metabolizing.
Life Extension is good, but check truehealthrevealed.com, too, for organic
whole food sources mentioned above.  Yeah, I've been making my own colloidal
silver water for years, too. Extremely high quality micro-particle CSW -
clear as clear can be.  No yellow tint like some of the mud makers out
there.
I work with a lot of cancer victims, too, in many ways.  From Rife to
Flor*Essence and everything inbetween.  It's not hard to beat if you know
what you're doing and I've researched alternative cancer cures for years.
Billions have died needlessly to our greedy, barbaric allopathic methods.  A
fool's paradise!
Happy New Year, Pat, and stay healthy.

John

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And do you have grey hair, John?

 I'd always heard that if you take part of the B complex without the rest,
 you could cause a deficiency of the others since they all work together.  I
 used to take B complex that had to dissolve under the tongue, but B is so
 gross tasting that it was a real chore.  I now just get what's in my Life
 Extension twice a day multi.

 My daughter takes oral B-12 and she's just 30.  She says her skin isn't so
 flaky when she uses it.  Does anyone else know of a reason to use it?  My
 B-12 blood test came out normal, whatever that is.  I never have learned
 much about that oneprobably didn't worry since I eat meat every day.

 Pat





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Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

2009-12-30 Thread Pat
Would the link be truehealth.com?  That one you gave won't work for me

Thanks, Pat





From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 11:52:50 AM
Subject: Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

Hey, Pat:

My hair had turned all gray by the time I was 30, but now at 68 yrs old, my 
hair is turning all blond...  About the same colr it was in my pre-teensw.  
Weird...  It may be the HGH activator I've been taking for about five years - 
maybe longer, but my friends are amazed at my new blond crop which is very 
full, thick and healthy.  I'm sure the B-Complex has a lot to do with it, too.  
I take a B-Complex, but separate B6, B12, and folate (organic whole food 
sources) because the organic whole food sources are so good.  I've been taking 
supplements for 35 years.  I also take whole food sources of Selenium and GTF 
Chromium - which are superior.
Flaky skin on your daughter might ende with a good source of Cod Liver Oil, 
and/or fish oil capsules, and vitamin D3.  I take all of my supplements with 
meals for synergistic metabolizing.  
Life Extension is good, but check truehealthrevealed.com, too, for organic 
whole food sources mentioned above.  Yeah, I've been making my own colloidal 
silver water for years, too. Extremely high quality micro-particle CSW - clear 
as clear can be.  No yellow tint like some of the mud makers out there.  
I work with a lot of cancer victims, too, in many ways.  From Rife to 
Flor*Essence and everything inbetween.  It's not hard to beat if you know what 
you're doing and I've researched alternative cancer cures for years.  Billions 
have died needlessly to our greedy, barbaric allopathic methods.  A fool's 
paradise!  
Happy New Year, Pat, and stay healthy.

John


  


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Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

2009-12-30 Thread John E. Stevens
Pat:

I'll send you one of their e-mail news letters.

John

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Would the link be truehealth.com?  That one you gave won't work for me

 Thanks, Pat




 
 From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 11:52:50 AM
 Subject: Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

 Hey, Pat:

 My hair had turned all gray by the time I was 30, but now at 68 yrs old, my
 hair is turning all blond...  About the same colr it was in my pre-teensw.
  Weird...  It may be the HGH activator I've been taking for about five years
 - maybe longer, but my friends are amazed at my new blond crop which is very
 full, thick and healthy.  I'm sure the B-Complex has a lot to do with it,
 too.  I take a B-Complex, but separate B6, B12, and folate (organic whole
 food sources) because the organic whole food sources are so good.  I've been
 taking supplements for 35 years.  I also take whole food sources of Selenium
 and GTF Chromium - which are superior.
 Flaky skin on your daughter might ende with a good source of Cod Liver Oil,
 and/or fish oil capsules, and vitamin D3.  I take all of my supplements with
 meals for synergistic metabolizing.
 Life Extension is good, but check truehealthrevealed.com, too, for organic
 whole food sources mentioned above.  Yeah, I've been making my own colloidal
 silver water for years, too. Extremely high quality micro-particle CSW -
 clear as clear can be.  No yellow tint like some of the mud makers out
 there.
 I work with a lot of cancer victims, too, in many ways.  From Rife to
 Flor*Essence and everything inbetween.  It's not hard to beat if you know
 what you're doing and I've researched alternative cancer cures for years.
  Billions have died needlessly to our greedy, barbaric allopathic methods.
  A fool's paradise!
 Happy New Year, Pat, and stay healthy.

 John





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Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

2009-12-30 Thread John E. Stevens
Sorry, Pat:

It's healthtruthrevealed.com

John

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Would the link be truehealth.com?  That one you gave won't work for me

 Thanks, Pat




 
 From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 11:52:50 AM
 Subject: Re: CSVitamin B 5 for you old lab rats...

 Hey, Pat:

 My hair had turned all gray by the time I was 30, but now at 68 yrs old, my
 hair is turning all blond...  About the same colr it was in my pre-teensw.
  Weird...  It may be the HGH activator I've been taking for about five years
 - maybe longer, but my friends are amazed at my new blond crop which is very
 full, thick and healthy.  I'm sure the B-Complex has a lot to do with it,
 too.  I take a B-Complex, but separate B6, B12, and folate (organic whole
 food sources) because the organic whole food sources are so good.  I've been
 taking supplements for 35 years.  I also take whole food sources of Selenium
 and GTF Chromium - which are superior.
 Flaky skin on your daughter might ende with a good source of Cod Liver Oil,
 and/or fish oil capsules, and vitamin D3.  I take all of my supplements with
 meals for synergistic metabolizing.
 Life Extension is good, but check truehealthrevealed.com, too, for organic
 whole food sources mentioned above.  Yeah, I've been making my own colloidal
 silver water for years, too. Extremely high quality micro-particle CSW -
 clear as clear can be.  No yellow tint like some of the mud makers out
 there.
 I work with a lot of cancer victims, too, in many ways.  From Rife to
 Flor*Essence and everything inbetween.  It's not hard to beat if you know
 what you're doing and I've researched alternative cancer cures for years.
  Billions have died needlessly to our greedy, barbaric allopathic methods.
  A fool's paradise!
 Happy New Year, Pat, and stay healthy.

 John





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Re: CSAsthma

2009-12-30 Thread Clayton Family
When I  get a little asthma, I drink a bit of cs and that usually gets rid of 
it.

Lots of asthma is caused by fungal infections.

On Dec 24, 2009, at 10:05 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote:

 How many people are taking cs for asthma and how are you taking it ? What 
 success are you having
 
 
 


CSIodine question

2009-12-30 Thread Deborah Gerard
Hello group..can anyone comment on the shelf life of Lugol's?
thanks deb


  

Re: CSIodine question

2009-12-30 Thread Tel Tofflemire
If you keep it in a cool place, in a sealed glass bottle, it should be good for 
at least a year or so.  You may need to shake it up to combine the only 3 
things in Lugol's Iodine. Iodine  Iodide with the distilled water, if it had 
separated. 
 Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
Dewey, AZ.





From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: cs silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: CSIodine question


Hello group..can anyone comment on the shelf life of Lugol's?
thanks deb



  

RE: CSIodine question

2009-12-30 Thread Dianne France

Tel,

There are iodine crystals that are sold on ebay.  Is that the same as one of 
the iodines used in Lugols?  

Dianne
 


Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:28:10 -0800
From: telt...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSIodine question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com






If you keep it in a cool place, in a sealed glass bottle, it should be good for 
at least a year or so.  You may need to shake it up to combine the only 3 
things in Lugol's Iodine. Iodine  Iodide with the distilled water, if it had 
separated. 
 Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
Dewey, AZ.






From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: cs silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 5:27:03 PM
Subject: CSIodine question



Hello group..can anyone comment on the shelf life of Lugol's?
thanks deb


  
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CSCame across Mike Monet's site

2009-12-30 Thread cking001
Remember Mike?


Came across his site http://silversol.110mb.com

Still an interesting guy w/ interesting ideas.
He's the one that explained the salt test using canning salt to me.


Chuck
You dont buy beer, you rent it...




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