RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread bob Larson
the only available source of TT that i know of is in the form of hot-tub
disinfectant... use instead of chlorine.  called Silspa...from online, a
place in wyoming.  do NOT approach the (only) u.s. mfgr of it or you may
hear from some men-in-black types.  there's some kind of activator that's
supposed to be used with it which i didn't have and from the look of the
ingredients i wouldn't use unless i had some solid confirmation that it was
o.k.
i did use TT alone, no EIS for awhile to see what it did.  it seemed to work
about as well as EIS but no better.  not a definitive experiment... trial
group on the small side (1).
since then i read patent abstracts indicating TT can be powerfully activated
by ozonating it, and when so charged it stays that way pretty stable.  free
unused ozone bubbling away as O2 of course.  so i tried ozonating it and
that makes it taste very different and i sense (?) energized.  only have
messed with that a bit and put it aside til later, haven't been back to it.
i now am in a situation where i will re-visit this probably this year.  i
couldn't really tell due to my limited use, but it still works at least as
well as EIS.  the thing is i'm free of hepC symptoms since starting CS and
never get anything else that needs killing until lately i think.  i might
try it on the septic bursitis i'll post about shortly.
will read that link as soon as i get ma to bed.  eager to do so, thanks.
 
bobL


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From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one
study:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have any info/suggestions for
buying/taking it?

~David


On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote:


 if your CS is quite clear, under 15ppm, should be no problem with argyria.
i'm on my 5th year of CS for hepC and it's doing a good job managing but
never quite getting rid of it.  in 2006 CS saved my life from the hepC.
during the first year i started using it i drank at least 6 oz/day and often
more.  i drank a whole liter/day for several months.  much of that CS also
had Ag4O4 tetrasilver tetroxide added to it.  i'm not gray, and the moons of
my fingernails are white.  the moons are supposed to turn blue when you come
close to skin doing so, so then it's time to back off or stop).






   From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net]
   Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:32 PM

   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases



   nothing turn you to gray at that much amount?  took months getting
to that level?  how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or
retesting from lab.  Sorry, so many questions.  I have not gotten over my
anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease.
Helen



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CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread Kathy Tankersley
I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.  
Where is the best place to purchase MMS?   Thankis,   Kathy

Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread anthony . aquifer
I bought mine from a place called keaveys corner on the net.  I would recommend 
them. Its at family operation out of florida. You can phone them if you have 
questions the number is on the site. 
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

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From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 05:59:04 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMMS

I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.  
Where is the best place to purchase MMS?   Thankis,   Kathy


Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread PT Ferrance
I do believe Renee on this list still sells it.  I've been very happy with my 
purchase from her and she is available to ask questions of!
PT





From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 6:59:04 AM
Subject: CSMMS


I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.  
Where is the best place to purchase MMS?   Thankis,   Kathy

RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread bob Larson
great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give
similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm
or more silver in a short period by IV
 
Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise
his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but
didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an
interesting character.  seems to have researched and put together the
history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either
his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people
just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
 
 


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From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one
study:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have any info/suggestions for
buying/taking it?

~David



Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread Renee
I make and sell it for $10 a bottle, plus a free empty bottle for your
citric acid, and $5 shipping.  You can contact me off list at gaiacita @
gmail.com

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.  
Where is the best place to purchase MMS?   Thankis,   Kathy
 

Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread Bob Banever
Kathy,

 mmsdr.com  is one.  I've used them and they are great.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Tankersley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:59 AM
  Subject: CSMMS


  I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.  
  Where is the best place to purchase MMS?   Thankis,   Kathy

Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread Kathy Tankersley
whats TT?
  - Original Message - 
  From: bob Larson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:42 AM
  Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases


  great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give 
similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or 
more silver in a short period by IV

  Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his 
plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't 
damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an interesting 
character.  seems to have researched and put together the history of the 
development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak 
(maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond 
much for other reasons (not to their credit?)






From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one 
study:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have any info/suggestions for 
buying/taking it?

~David

CSSeeding

2011-03-20 Thread Deborah Gerard
I have added h202 to my cs after it is done...can I still use it to seed a new 
batch?
thanks in advance,
Debbie


  

Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread BW
I get mine from a man in TX that has really good prices.  Charges for the
shipping not product and he puts out a newsletter.  A four pack which
includes everything is $33 and some change.  He has great testimonies and
puts out a newsletter, too.

Bonnie

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote:

  I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.
 Where is the best place to purchase MMS?   Thankis,   Kathy



RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread bob Larson
TT = TetrasilverTetroxode

Ag4O4 




From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:tanke...@iland.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases


whats TT?

- Original Message - 
From: bob Larson mailto:bobli...@att.net  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way
would give similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume
to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV
 
Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT
sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up
like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually
normalized.  he's an interesting character.  seems to have researched and
put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare
people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very
smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to
their credit?)
 
 




From: David AuBuchon
[mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of
30 breast cancers in one study:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have
any info/suggestions for buying/taking it?

~David



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CSTT

2011-03-20 Thread bob Larson
oops... tetroxide, not tetroxode 

 -Original Message-
 From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:54 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
 
 TT = TetrasilverTetroxode
 
 Ag4O4 
 
 
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RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread Duncan Crow
Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit:
 

    In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its
    role in the development of AIDS was accepted.  The Justice
    Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the
    case.
    
    Soon after, his health began to deteriorate.  
    
    The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a
    certain AIDS cure tested clinically.  This was Tetracyl, a
    silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the
    HIV virus.  The efficiency of this treatment  has not been
    researched.  Some patients have reported eradication of the
    virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded.
    
    After March Graves continued to lose ground.  He tried another
    injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive.  He
    had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20.  Valiently
    putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected
    for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus
    medications.
    
    Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent
    caretaker-boys took him to the hospital.  Next morning he was
    intubated, comatose, and incommunicado.  Thursday morning his
    sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection.  He
    was to be put on comfort care at 2:30, meaning life support
    would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied.
    
    He died that afternoon. 






Re: CSSeeding

2011-03-20 Thread sol

No.

sol

Deborah Gerard wrote:




I have added h202 to my cs after it is done...can I still use it to 
seed a new batch?

thanks in advance,
Debbie







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Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread Kathy Tankersley
Whats his name/email/ site?
  - Original Message - 
  From: BW 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:21 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMMS


  I get mine from a man in TX that has really good prices.  Charges for the 
shipping not product and he puts out a newsletter.  A four pack which includes 
everything is $33 and some change.  He has great testimonies and puts out a 
newsletter, too.

  Bonnie


  On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote:

I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.  
Where is the best place to purchase MMS?   Thankis,   Kathy



RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread bob Larson
i have read that after some years of being clean of HIV he picked it up all
over again.  so the question is open:  did the TT not get it all, or was it
intractable lifestyle that took him down?
he wouldn't comment to me about that when asked in email.  he did say that
trials in africa that he had coordinated were ongoing and looking
encouraging.
i didn't know he had died.
he was quite a soldier for his cause.  i wouldn't be surprised if it turned
out his HIV reccurence was engineered by gov't assasins.  if his research is
true and correct, they have a lot to deny and hide, and putting him down
with apparent failure of the treatment would be the best way to dispose of
him.  but he probably just got it again from his buddies.
 
nice to see you're here Duncan.  hope you're still doing as well as the last
report you made some time ago which was super impressive.
i stopped reading almost all the lists except re silver and LDN naltrexone
the past year or so.   i think it was Ben Stein that proved Time = Money (he
didn't say what happens as you approach the speed of light).  
 
bobL


  _  

From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases



Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit:
 

In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its
role in the development of AIDS was accepted.  The Justice
Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the
case.

Soon after, his health began to deteriorate.  

The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a
certain AIDS cure tested clinically.  This was Tetracyl, a
silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the
HIV virus.  The efficiency of this treatment  has not been
researched.  Some patients have reported eradication of the
virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded.

After March Graves continued to lose ground.  He tried another
injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive.  He
had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20.  Valiently
putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected
for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus
medications.

Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent
caretaker-boys took him to the hospital.  Next morning he was
intubated, comatose, and incommunicado.  Thursday morning his
sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection.  He
was to be put on comfort care at 2:30, meaning life support
would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied.

He died that afternoon. 







RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread bob Larson
to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma
level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.  


  _  

From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases


great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give
similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm
or more silver in a short period by IV
 
Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise
his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but
didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an
interesting character.  seems to have researched and put together the
history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either
his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people
just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
 



Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread cking001
Get it from Renee.
She's on this list.

Chuck
Yesterday I saw a chicken crossing the road. I asked it why.
 It told me it was none of my business. -- Steven Wright

On 3/20/2011 6:59:04 AM, Kathy Tankersley (tanke...@iland.net) wrote:
 I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.
 Where is the best place to purchase MMS?  Thankis,  Kathy


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Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread BW
let me find it and I will send it.

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote:

  Whats his name/email/ site?

 - Original Message -
 *From:* BW jennelle8...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:21 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSMMS

 I get mine from a man in TX that has really good prices.  Charges for the
 shipping not product and he puts out a newsletter.  A four pack which
 includes everything is $33 and some change.  He has great testimonies and
 puts out a newsletter, too.

 Bonnie

 On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote:

  I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.
 Where is the best place to purchase MMS?   Thankis,   Kathy





Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread Jane MacRoss

Buy it from Renee - she's on the list!

Jane

- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: CSMMS


Get it from Renee.
She's on this list.

Chuck
Yesterday I saw a chicken crossing the road. I asked it why.
It told me it was none of my business. -- Steven Wright

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I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates.
Where is the best place to purchase MMS?  Thankis,  Kathy



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Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread David AuBuchon
If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get
10ppm in the blood by IV.

Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site.
 Including protocols involving oral use.  Most significantly are protocols
involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an
artery.

~David

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote:

  to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get
 plasma level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.

  --
 *From:* bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net]
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM

 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

  great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give
 similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm
 or more silver in a short period by IV

 Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise
 his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but
 didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an
 interesting character.  seems to have researched and put together the
 history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either
 his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people
 just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)





Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread Dan Nave
Can you give the link for the protocols and cases?

Dan

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:06 PM, David AuBuchon
aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get
 10ppm in the blood by IV.
 Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site.
  Including protocols involving oral use.  Most significantly are protocols
 involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an
 artery.
 ~David

 On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote:

 to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get
 plasma level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.

 
 From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net]
 Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

 great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give
 similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm
 or more silver in a short period by IV

 Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise
 his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but
 didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an
 interesting character.  seems to have researched and put together the
 history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either
 his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people
 just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)




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Re: CSMMS

2011-03-20 Thread Renee
Thanks, people!  

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Buy it from Renee - she's on the list!
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RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases

2011-03-20 Thread bob Larson
this is the first i've read of  the direct generation of ions with
implanted electrodes in an artery.   anywhere to read more about it?  
i can see myself wearing a power pack like when i was using a beck blood
electrifier.  add in bluetooth hanging on my ear and i am borg.  resistance
was futile.

about the strongest i've been able to get CS with re-brewing over and over
again is about 65ppm when it settles down.  
tired, too lazy to do the math right now, but what volume of 65ppm would it
take to raise the plasma level... what is it on average, something like 8
liters in the body?  if so, guesstimating, wouldn't it take something like
1.5 or more liters ?   seems like it would be dangerous to thin out the
blood with so much water quickly, even a drip over a couple days?  and the
longer it takes to deliver in, the more it takes cuz the CS is processed out
so quickly?l
with the TT it's easy to shoot a high concentration in one syringe...
probably only 10cc or something?

i can't take risks with myself while i'm responsible for taking care of my
ma, but after she dies i can.  but i believe she's getting better now and
might last another decade... jeez, that'd kill me in the process, but that's
the deal i guess.



From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases


If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could
get 10ppm in the blood by IV.   

Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my
site.  Including protocols involving oral use.  Most significantly are
protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes
in an artery.  

~David


On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net
wrote:


to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use
EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.  


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