RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
the only available source of TT that i know of is in the form of hot-tub disinfectant... use instead of chlorine. called Silspa...from online, a place in wyoming. do NOT approach the (only) u.s. mfgr of it or you may hear from some men-in-black types. there's some kind of activator that's supposed to be used with it which i didn't have and from the look of the ingredients i wouldn't use unless i had some solid confirmation that it was o.k. i did use TT alone, no EIS for awhile to see what it did. it seemed to work about as well as EIS but no better. not a definitive experiment... trial group on the small side (1). since then i read patent abstracts indicating TT can be powerfully activated by ozonating it, and when so charged it stays that way pretty stable. free unused ozone bubbling away as O2 of course. so i tried ozonating it and that makes it taste very different and i sense (?) energized. only have messed with that a bit and put it aside til later, haven't been back to it. i now am in a situation where i will re-visit this probably this year. i couldn't really tell due to my limited use, but it still works at least as well as EIS. the thing is i'm free of hepC symptoms since starting CS and never get anything else that needs killing until lately i think. i might try it on the septic bursitis i'll post about shortly. will read that link as soon as i get ma to bed. eager to do so, thanks. bobL _ From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: if your CS is quite clear, under 15ppm, should be no problem with argyria. i'm on my 5th year of CS for hepC and it's doing a good job managing but never quite getting rid of it. in 2006 CS saved my life from the hepC. during the first year i started using it i drank at least 6 oz/day and often more. i drank a whole liter/day for several months. much of that CS also had Ag4O4 tetrasilver tetroxide added to it. i'm not gray, and the moons of my fingernails are white. the moons are supposed to turn blue when you come close to skin doing so, so then it's time to back off or stop). From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases nothing turn you to gray at that much amount? took months getting to that level? how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or retesting from lab. Sorry, so many questions. I have not gotten over my anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease. Helen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMMS
I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
Re: CSMMS
I bought mine from a place called keaveys corner on the net. I would recommend them. Its at family operation out of florida. You can phone them if you have questions the number is on the site. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 05:59:04 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMMS I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
Re: CSMMS
I do believe Renee on this list still sells it. I've been very happy with my purchase from her and she is available to ask questions of! PT From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 6:59:04 AM Subject: CSMMS I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?) _ From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David
Re: CSMMS
I make and sell it for $10 a bottle, plus a free empty bottle for your citric acid, and $5 shipping. You can contact me off list at gaiacita @ gmail.com Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
Re: CSMMS
Kathy, mmsdr.com is one. I've used them and they are great. - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:59 AM Subject: CSMMS I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
whats TT? - Original Message - From: bob Larson To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:42 AM Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?) From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David
CSSeeding
I have added h202 to my cs after it is done...can I still use it to seed a new batch? thanks in advance, Debbie
Re: CSMMS
I get mine from a man in TX that has really good prices. Charges for the shipping not product and he puts out a newsletter. A four pack which includes everything is $33 and some change. He has great testimonies and puts out a newsletter, too. Bonnie On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote: I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
TT = TetrasilverTetroxode Ag4O4 From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:tanke...@iland.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases whats TT? - Original Message - From: bob Larson mailto:bobli...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:42 AM Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?) From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTT
oops... tetroxide, not tetroxode -Original Message- From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases TT = TetrasilverTetroxode Ag4O4 __ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit: In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its role in the development of AIDS was accepted. The Justice Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the case. Soon after, his health began to deteriorate. The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a certain AIDS cure tested clinically. This was Tetracyl, a silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the HIV virus. The efficiency of this treatment has not been researched. Some patients have reported eradication of the virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded. After March Graves continued to lose ground. He tried another injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive. He had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20. Valiently putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus medications. Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent caretaker-boys took him to the hospital. Next morning he was intubated, comatose, and incommunicado. Thursday morning his sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection. He was to be put on comfort care at 2:30, meaning life support would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied. He died that afternoon.
Re: CSSeeding
No. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: I have added h202 to my cs after it is done...can I still use it to seed a new batch? thanks in advance, Debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS
Whats his name/email/ site? - Original Message - From: BW To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:21 AM Subject: Re: CSMMS I get mine from a man in TX that has really good prices. Charges for the shipping not product and he puts out a newsletter. A four pack which includes everything is $33 and some change. He has great testimonies and puts out a newsletter, too. Bonnie On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote: I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
i have read that after some years of being clean of HIV he picked it up all over again. so the question is open: did the TT not get it all, or was it intractable lifestyle that took him down? he wouldn't comment to me about that when asked in email. he did say that trials in africa that he had coordinated were ongoing and looking encouraging. i didn't know he had died. he was quite a soldier for his cause. i wouldn't be surprised if it turned out his HIV reccurence was engineered by gov't assasins. if his research is true and correct, they have a lot to deny and hide, and putting him down with apparent failure of the treatment would be the best way to dispose of him. but he probably just got it again from his buddies. nice to see you're here Duncan. hope you're still doing as well as the last report you made some time ago which was super impressive. i stopped reading almost all the lists except re silver and LDN naltrexone the past year or so. i think it was Ben Stein that proved Time = Money (he didn't say what happens as you approach the speed of light). bobL _ From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit: In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its role in the development of AIDS was accepted. The Justice Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the case. Soon after, his health began to deteriorate. The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a certain AIDS cure tested clinically. This was Tetracyl, a silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the HIV virus. The efficiency of this treatment has not been researched. Some patients have reported eradication of the virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded. After March Graves continued to lose ground. He tried another injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive. He had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20. Valiently putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus medications. Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent caretaker-boys took him to the hospital. Next morning he was intubated, comatose, and incommunicado. Thursday morning his sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection. He was to be put on comfort care at 2:30, meaning life support would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied. He died that afternoon.
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. _ From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
Re: CSMMS
Get it from Renee. She's on this list. Chuck Yesterday I saw a chicken crossing the road. I asked it why. It told me it was none of my business. -- Steven Wright On 3/20/2011 6:59:04 AM, Kathy Tankersley (tanke...@iland.net) wrote: I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS
let me find it and I will send it. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote: Whats his name/email/ site? - Original Message - *From:* BW jennelle8...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:21 AM *Subject:* Re: CSMMS I get mine from a man in TX that has really good prices. Charges for the shipping not product and he puts out a newsletter. A four pack which includes everything is $33 and some change. He has great testimonies and puts out a newsletter, too. Bonnie On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote: I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy
Re: CSMMS
Buy it from Renee - she's on the list! Jane - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:32 AM Subject: Re: CSMMS Get it from Renee. She's on this list. Chuck Yesterday I saw a chicken crossing the road. I asked it why. It told me it was none of my business. -- Steven Wright On 3/20/2011 6:59:04 AM, Kathy Tankersley (tanke...@iland.net) wrote: I've been reading the posts about MMS, and get Jim Humbles updates. Where is the best place to purchase MMS? Thankis, Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3482 - Release Date: 03/04/11 19:34:00
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get 10ppm in the blood by IV. Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site. Including protocols involving oral use. Most significantly are protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. ~David On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. -- *From:* bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Can you give the link for the protocols and cases? Dan On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:06 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get 10ppm in the blood by IV. Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site. Including protocols involving oral use. Most significantly are protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. ~David On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS
Thanks, people! Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Buy it from Renee - she's on the list! happy.gif
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
this is the first i've read of the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. anywhere to read more about it? i can see myself wearing a power pack like when i was using a beck blood electrifier. add in bluetooth hanging on my ear and i am borg. resistance was futile. about the strongest i've been able to get CS with re-brewing over and over again is about 65ppm when it settles down. tired, too lazy to do the math right now, but what volume of 65ppm would it take to raise the plasma level... what is it on average, something like 8 liters in the body? if so, guesstimating, wouldn't it take something like 1.5 or more liters ? seems like it would be dangerous to thin out the blood with so much water quickly, even a drip over a couple days? and the longer it takes to deliver in, the more it takes cuz the CS is processed out so quickly?l with the TT it's easy to shoot a high concentration in one syringe... probably only 10cc or something? i can't take risks with myself while i'm responsible for taking care of my ma, but after she dies i can. but i believe she's getting better now and might last another decade... jeez, that'd kill me in the process, but that's the deal i guess. From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get 10ppm in the blood by IV. Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site. Including protocols involving oral use. Most significantly are protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. ~David On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com