CS>Liposomal Vit C

[Kirsteen Wright]

Hi Everyone

How long does this keep in the fridge?  I made my first batch but before i
took any, I got rushd into hospital. Now I'm out I'm wondring if it's safe
to use or if I should just toss it and start fresh. Any ideas?

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>Liposomal Vit C

[PTF]

How did you store it in the fridge?  And how long were you in the hospital/did 
you make it?  Did you smell/taste it?  
A bit more info would be helpful.
I hope you are feeling better.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:01 AM
  Subject: CS>Liposomal Vit C


  Hi Everyone

  How long does this keep in the fridge?  I made my first batch but before i 
took any, I got rushd into hospital. Now I'm out I'm wondring if it's safe to 
use or if I should just toss it and start fresh. Any ideas?

  Cheers
  Kirsteen

Re: CS>Liposomal Vit C

[Kirsteen Wright]

Hi

As soon as it was made, it was put in a glass jar and into the fridge. That
was about 12 days ago. It hasn't separated or anything. Because of my
hayfever, pollen count is high here, I don't have a great sense of smell but
it doesn't seem to smell. It tastes sort of sharp like lemon juice if that's
any help. I didn't taste or smell it before hand so I don't know if it's any
different.

Cheers
Kirsteen



On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM, PTF  wrote:

> **
> How did you store it in the fridge?  And how long were you in the
> hospital/did you make it?  Did you smell/taste it?
> A bit more info would be helpful.
> I hope you are feeling better.
> PT
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Kirsteen Wright 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2011 4:01 AM
> *Subject:* CS>Liposomal Vit C
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> How long does this keep in the fridge?  I made my first batch but before i
> took any, I got rushd into hospital. Now I'm out I'm wondring if it's safe
> to use or if I should just toss it and start fresh. Any ideas?
>
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
>
>

Re: CS>Liposomal Vit C

[PTF]

Hi, 
If it has been covered and refrigerated for 12 days I, personally, would try 
it.  Mine doesn't usually last that long but if there is nothing 'growing' on 
it I would give it a go.  That said, I cannot tell you that is what you should 
do.
Let us know what the outcome?  
Remember to shake it if there is a gelatin ring on the bottom.
PT

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:33 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Liposomal Vit C


  Hi

  As soon as it was made, it was put in a glass jar and into the fridge. That 
was about 12 days ago. It hasn't separated or anything. Because of my hayfever, 
pollen count is high here, I don't have a great sense of smell but it doesn't 
seem to smell. It tastes sort of sharp like lemon juice if that's any help. I 
didn't taste or smell it before hand so I don't know if it's any different.

  Cheers
  Kirsteen




  On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM, PTF  wrote:

How did you store it in the fridge?  And how long were you in the 
hospital/did you make it?  Did you smell/taste it?  
A bit more info would be helpful.
I hope you are feeling better.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:01 AM
  Subject: CS>Liposomal Vit C


  Hi Everyone

  How long does this keep in the fridge?  I made my first batch but before 
i took any, I got rushd into hospital. Now I'm out I'm wondring if it's safe to 
use or if I should just toss it and start fresh. Any ideas?

  Cheers
  Kirsteen

Re: CS>Cancer question

[Marshall]

I believe that a doctor can sometimes see a tumor in the bladder, and 
might have a pretty good idea if it is cancerous or not by its 
appearance, but for definite proof a biopsy is likely necessary.  It is 
also possible they might be able to get that information from looking 
for and at any cells that end up in the urine, but I have never heard of 
that being done.


Marshall

On 6/23/2011 10:42 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone 
has cancer while doing a scope ina bladder?

Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
Thanks in advance everyone,
Deb

RE: CS>Cancer question

[Nenah Sylver]

Biopsies invariably dislodge cancerous cells, which due to a self-protective
mechanism migrate to other parts of the body and set up camp there so they
can continue to grow. (The allopaths call it "metastasizing.") There are
non-invasive ways to detect cancer: VoiceBio analysis, and many types of
electromedical devices such as electrodermal screening (EDS). See
http://reenie.org/site/electro/basic.html 

 

Even the American Cancer Society is now conducting trials to see if EDS can
detect cancer: 

 

http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlt
ernativeMedicine/ManualHealingandPhysicalTouch/electrodermal-screening 

 

Also Google "voll electrodermal screening."

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook (2009)

Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

  www.nenahsylver.com;
 www.rifehandbook.com 

  _  

From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question

 

I believe that a doctor can sometimes see a tumor in the bladder, and might
have a pretty good idea if it is cancerous or not by its appearance, but for
definite proof a biopsy is likely necessary.  It is also possible they might
be able to get that information from looking for and at any cells that end
up in the urine, but I have never heard of that being done.

Marshall

--- 

Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has
cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?

Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?

Thanks in advance everyone,

Deb

Re: CS>Cancer question

[Bob Banever]

Marshall,

 I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian cancer and 
they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took chemo she 
might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an 
experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an hepatic coma 
from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed her.  And the 
oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been older I probably 
would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These people are murderers in 
business suits and happen to have medical degrees.  

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question


  That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their poisons. 
 They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without chemo, and talked 
her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with it, and she 
actually lasted less than 24 hours.

  Marshall


  On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote: 
IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early. 
Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
as is the usual result.
The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
Give this some thought =
http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
talk it over with your mom & sis.
It's important to treat it early.
If it's not cancerous, no harm done with 
the soda/maple syrup protocol.
Smitty




On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard  
wrote:

  The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my sister's 
was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a little 
curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was 
cancer...h



  From: Smitty 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question



  If it were me, I would use this method = 
  http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
  Smitty






  On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever  
wrote:

They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if 
present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a biopsy.  
Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer and not do a 
biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the blood.   That is my 
opinion however and not intended as advice to you.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
  Subject: CS>Cancer question


  Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone 
has cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
  Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
  Thanks in advance everyone,
  Deb

Re: CS>Cancer question

[Dan Nave]

I often wonder why more people don't take more things "into their own hands."

Dan

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:
> Marshall,
>
>  I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian cancer and
> they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took chemo she
> might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an
> experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an hepatic
> coma from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed her.
> And the oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been older I
> probably would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These people are
> murderers in business suits and happen to have medical degrees.
>
> Bob
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Marshall
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
> That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
> poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without chemo,
> and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with it,
> and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:
>
> IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
> Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
> as is the usual result.
> The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
> Give this some thought =
> http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
> talk it over with your mom & sis.
> It's important to treat it early.
> If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
> the soda/maple syrup protocol.
> Smitty
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard 
> wrote:
>>
>> The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my sister's
>> was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a little
>> curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
>> cancer...h
>>
>> From: Smitty 
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
>>
>> If it were me, I would use this method =
>> http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
>> Smitty
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever 
>> wrote:
>>
>> They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
>> present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
>> biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer
>> and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the
>> blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to you.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Deborah Gerard
>> To: cs
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
>> Subject: CS>Cancer question
>> Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has
>> cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
>> Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
>> Thanks in advance everyone,
>> Deb
>>
>>
>
>
>


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Re: CS>Cancer question

[Guyot Léna]

That's like asking why the illiterate peasants of the 14th century  
didn't stand against the all-powerful Catholic church.

Doctors are our secular priests.
Be well,
Léna
On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

I often wonder why more people don't take more things "into their own  
hands."


Dan

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever   
wrote:

Marshall,

 I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian  
cancer and
they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took  
chemo she

might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an
experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an  
hepatic
coma from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed  
her.
And the oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been  
older I
probably would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These  
people are

murderers in business suits and happen to have medical degrees.

Bob

- Original Message -
From: Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months  
without chemo,
and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week  
with it,

and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.

Marshall


On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:

IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
as is the usual result.
The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
Give this some thought =
http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
talk it over with your mom & sis.
It's important to treat it early.
If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
the soda/maple syrup protocol.
Smitty

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard 
wrote:


The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my  
sister's
was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a  
little

curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
cancer...h

From: Smitty 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question

If it were me, I would use this method =
http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
Smitty



On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever 
wrote:

They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was  
cancer
and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru  
the
blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to  
you.


- Original Message -
From: Deborah Gerard
To: cs
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
Subject: CS>Cancer question
Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if  
someone has

cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
Thanks in advance everyone,
Deb









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Re: CS>Cancer question

[Smitty]

> I often wonder why more people don't take more things "into their own
> hands."
>
> Dan
>

A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some
allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat
cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?
Smitty

>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever 
> wrote:
> > Marshall,
> >
> >  I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian cancer
> and
> > they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took chemo
> she
> > might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an
> > experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an hepatic
> > coma from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed her.
> > And the oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been older
> I
> > probably would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These people are
> > murderers in business suits and happen to have medical degrees.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Marshall
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
> > That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
> > poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without
> chemo,
> > and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with
> it,
> > and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
> > On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:
> >
> > IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
> > Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
> > as is the usual result.
> > The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
> > Give this some thought =
> > http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
> > talk it over with your mom & sis.
> > It's important to treat it early.
> > If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
> > the soda/maple syrup protocol.
> > Smitty
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my
> sister's
> >> was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a
> little
> >> curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
> >> cancer...h
> >>
> >> From: Smitty 
> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
> >> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
> >>
> >> If it were me, I would use this method =
> >> http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
> >> Smitty
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
> >> present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
> >> biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was
> cancer
> >> and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the
> >> blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to you.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Deborah Gerard
> >> To: cs
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
> >> Subject: CS>Cancer question
> >> Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone
> has
> >> cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
> >> Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
> >> Thanks in advance everyone,
> >> Deb
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: CS>Cancer question

[Jimmie Cairn]

Well said.  I lost a sister to the "profession",  and though we strongly urged 
her husband to take action, he was too brainwashed  to do any thing.  I wanted 
to strangle him with my bare hands.  He just kept saying " They did all they 
knew to do", Yeah, right..
Jimmie





From: Smitty 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 9:43:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question




I often wonder why more people don't take more things "into their own hands."
>
>Dan
>

A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some
allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat
cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?
Smitty

>On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:
>> Marshall,
>>
>>  I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian cancer and
>> they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took chemo she
>> might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an
>> experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an hepatic
>> coma from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed her.
>> And the oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been older I
>> probably would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These people are
>> murderers in business suits and happen to have medical degrees.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Marshall
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
>> That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
>> poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without chemo,
>> and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with it,
>> and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:
>>
>> IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
>> Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
>> as is the usual result.
>> The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
>> Give this some thought =
>> http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
>> talk it over with your mom & sis.
>> It's important to treat it early.
>> If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
>> the soda/maple syrup protocol.
>> Smitty
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my sister's
>>> was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a little
>>> curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
>>> cancer...h
>>>
>>> From: Smitty 
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
>>>
>>> If it were me, I would use this method =
>>> http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
>>> Smitty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
>>> present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
>>> biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer
>>> and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the
>>> blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to you.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Deborah Gerard
>>> To: cs
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
>>> Subject: CS>Cancer question
>>> Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has
>>> cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
>>> Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
>>> Thanks in advance everyone,
>>> Deb
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: CS>Cancer question

[Deborah Gerard]

I'm often called a "know it all" because I have alot of answers for health 
problems.  I hungered for knowledge to help other's and myself but it's a 
rareity for people to listen seems like.


From: Smitty 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question




I often wonder why more people don't take more things "into their own hands."
>
>Dan
>

A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some
allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat
cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?
Smitty

>On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:
>> Marshall,
>>> Bob
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Marshall
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
>> That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
>> poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without chemo,
>> and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with it,
>> and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:
>>
>> IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
>> Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
>> as is the usual result.
>> The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
>> Give this some thought =
>> http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
>> talk it over with your mom & sis.
>> It's important to treat it early.
>> If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
>> the soda/maple syrup protocol.
>> Smitty
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my sister's
>>> was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a little
>>> curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
>>> cancer...h
>>>
>>> From: Smitty 
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
>>>
>>> If it were me, I would use this method =
>>> http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
>>> Smitty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
>>> present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
>>> biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer
>>> and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the
>>> blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to you.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Deborah Gerard
>>> To: cs
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
>>> Subject: CS>Cancer question
>>> Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has
>>> cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
>>> Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
>>> Thanks in advance everyone,
>>> Deb
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Re: CS>Cancer question

[Deborah Gerard]

I went thru an awful illness, nothing like cancer.  But went thru about six 
different doctor's and finally sought out a D.O. that was into alternative 
med.  He changed my whole life and knew exactly what was the matter and 
encouraged me to take control of my own health and " learn".


From: Jimmie Cairn 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question


Well said.  I lost a sister to the "profession",  and though we strongly urged 
her husband to take action, he was too brainwashed  to do any thing.  I wanted 
to strangle him with my bare hands.  He just kept saying " They did all they 
knew to do", Yeah, right..
    Jimmie



From: Smitty 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 9:43:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question




I often wonder why more people don't take more things "into their own hands."
>
>Dan
>

A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some
allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat
cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?
Smitty

>On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:
>> Marshall,
>>
>>   

CS>CS: Why people won't listen

[Harold MacDonald]

I have come to the conclusion that most people do not want to make the effort 
to get out of their rut.For almost as long as I can remember,[in my 88th year 
now] we have been brain-washed into believing that all we have to do is go to 
the Drs/med. system and we will get an over-night miracle cure for any and all 
the afflictions that we brought on ourselves.So,why should we go to the effort 
of upsetting our comfortable rut?
In the last 30 + years I have been a health nut with a great deal of time and 
money spent researching,etc.,I can count on the fingers of one hand the number 
of people that have really listened to me and followed my advice and help,with 
good results.Two of those people are my youngest daughter and her husband.
Now I do not offer any advice unless I am sure they are serious.
There were times when I had no recourse but to go for Medical treatment,and 
each time I ended up worse off.
"It is to weep!"
Harold

Re: CS>CS: Why people won't listen

[Deborah Gerard]

so sad...


From: Harold MacDonald 
To: Silver list 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:05 AM
Subject: CS>CS: Why people won't listen


I have come to the conclusion that most people do not want to make the effort 
to get out of their rut.For almost as long as I can remember,[in my 88th year 
now] we have been brain-washed into believing that all we have to do is go to 
the Drs/med. system and we will get an over-night miracle cure for any and all 
the afflictions that we brought on ourselves.So,why should we go to the effort 
of upsetting our comfortable rut?
In the last 30 + years I have been a health nut with a great deal of time and 
money spent researching,etc.,I can count on the fingers of one hand the number 
of people that have really listened to me and followed my advice and help,with 
good results.Two of those people are my youngest daughter and her husband.
Now I do not offer any advice unless I am sure they are serious.
There were times when I had no recourse but to go for Medical treatment,and 
each time I ended up worse off.
"It is to weep!"
Harold

Re: CS>CS: Why people won't listen

[Guyot Léna]

Hi Harold,
My father-in-law was very sick with chronic lung issues, from job- 
related pollutants and perhaps Lyme as well. He always researched:  
sometimes starting with the teasers in tabloid newspapers, then  
reading all sorts of magazines, then bouncing things off a couple docs  
he respected.
As time went one, they respected him, more and more as he somehow  
maintained a remarkable degree of functioning health despite over 25  
years of prednisone. I'm so glad I was interested, and listened to  
him. Most of the family was weary of the chronic illness; I was  
interested in his tireless quest.
He lit the way for me, so that when I suspected my Lyme disease, and  
doctors didn't, I stepped out and began to research like he had. He's  
been gone quite a while, well before the internet (which he would have  
loved), but now that I'm slowly, but steadily recovering, I feel his  
hovering curiosity and approval, and thank him for the great example  
he set.


Your youngest daughter and her husband are very lucky.

Be well,
Léna

On Jun 25, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Harold MacDonald wrote:

I have come to the conclusion that most people do not want to make the  
effort to get out of their rut.For almost as long as I can remember, 
[in my 88th year now] we have been brain-washed into believing that  
all we have to do is go to the Drs/med. system and we will get an over- 
night miracle cure for any and all the afflictions that we brought on  
ourselves.So,why should we go to the effort of upsetting our  
comfortable rut?
In the last 30 + years I have been a health nut with a great deal of  
time and money spent researching,etc.,I can count on the fingers of  
one hand the number of people that have really listened to me and  
followed my advice and help,with good results.Two of those people are  
my youngest daughter and her husband.

Now I do not offer any advice unless I am sure they are serious.
There were times when I had no recourse but to go for Medical  
treatment,and each time I ended up worse off.

"It is to weep!"
Harold

Re: CS>CS: Why people won't listen

[Smitty]

I know where you are coming from Harold.
Usually when I give someone some advice on
natural healing, they almost always answer =
*I'll check with my Dr.*
So many have abused their bodies with junk
food and  smokes, that some are beyond repair.
Smitty


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Harold MacDonald  wrote:

> **
> I have come to the conclusion that most people do not want to make the
> effort to get out of their rut.For almost as long as I can remember,[in my
> 88th year now] we have been brain-washed into believing that all we have to
> do is go to the Drs/med. system and we will get an over-night miracle cure
> for any and all the afflictions that we brought on ourselves.So,why should
> we go to the effort of upsetting our comfortable rut?
> In the last 30 + years I have been a health nut with a great deal of time
> and money spent researching,etc.,I can count on the fingers of one hand the
> number of people that have really listened to me and followed my advice and
> help,with good results.Two of those people are my youngest daughter and her
> husband.
> Now I do not offer any advice unless I am sure they are serious.
> There were times when I had no recourse but to go for Medical treatment,and
> each time I ended up worse off.
> "It is to weep!"
> Harold
>

Re: CS>CS: Why people won't listen

[Ronnie Joseph]

Hi Harold you are so right. The brainwashing however is very deeply entrenched 
so to awaken from our slumber takes a certain kind of rebelliousness.
 
I am in British Columbia, do you happen to know where I can get hold of Kefir 
Grains
 
Thanks 
 
 

Ronnie 

Re: CS>Cancer question

[Ronnie Joseph]

Well Deborah when people are challenged they turn to name calling e.g Know it 
all etc. I have found it often is to cover up their feeling of fear. Fear of 
success 

 
I have asked around the forum but do you know where I may be able to get Kefir 
grains in British Columbia Surrey or Vancouver area
 
Thank you
Ronnie 

Re: CS>Cancer question

[Sandy]

Hi Ronnie,

I have kefir grains which I share with others. I live in Texas but have sent my 
grains all over the states even to Alaska without any mishaps. I have also 
given kefir grains to several people on this forum so I'm sure they will vouch 
for me. If you're interested let me know.

Sandy

--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Ronnie Joseph  wrote:

From: Ronnie Joseph 
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 11:52 PM

Well Deborah when people are challenged they turn to name calling e.g Know it 
all etc. I have found it often is to cover up their feeling of fear. Fear of 
success 

 
I have asked around the forum but do you know where I may be able to get 
Kefir grains in British Columbia Surrey or Vancouver area
 
Thank you
Ronnie 

Re: CS>Cancer question

[Ronnie Joseph]

Oh great Deborah,
 
Maybe someone close to me in Surrey British Columbia will let me know if they 
have some. I will await other replies and if unsuccessful I may contact you in 
the near future if that's ok

Ronnie 

Re: CS>Kefir Grains

[Sandy]

As you wish.

Oh great Deborah ;)

--- On Sat, 6/25/11, Ronnie Joseph  wrote:

From: Ronnie Joseph 
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 12:12 AM

Oh great Deborah,
 
Maybe someone close to me in Surrey British Columbia will let me know if they 
have some. I will await other replies and if unsuccessful I may contact you in 
the near future if that's ok

Ronnie 

RE: CS>Cancer question

[Donna M Lewis]

Unfortunately, if the FDA and drug companies get their way, we won't be
allowed to take care of our own health, and if we do it anyway we'll be put
in jail.

 

Donna

 

From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 7:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question

 

I went thru an awful illness, nothing like cancer.  But went thru about six
different doctor's and finally sought out a D.O. that was into alternative
med.  He changed my whole life and knew exactly what was the matter and
encouraged me to take control of my own health and " learn".



 

From: Jimmie Cairn 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question

Well said.  I lost a sister to the "profession",  and though we strongly
urged her husband to take action, he was too brainwashed  to do any thing.
I wanted to strangle him with my bare hands.  He just kept saying " They did
all they knew to do", Yeah, right..
Jimmie

 

From: Smitty 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 9:43:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer question

 

I often wonder why more people don't take more things "into their own
hands."

Dan

 

A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some

allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat

cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?

Smitty


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:
> Marshall,
>
>