RE: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
Sounds like if information is hard to get there's probly a lot *NOT* being said? I'd say it's self inflicted by means of which we will in all probability never know. N. Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:13:10 -0700 Subject: Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Unfortunately, the person in question hard to get information from. In the future I hope to get the bottle of whatever he was using and confirm that it was ionic. I won't be able to know if anything was mixed with it though, but if they followed the instructions they were given, they would not have. In any case, you look at your tongue, you see hey it looks a little different, and there is no risk of getting any serious cosmetic problem. You just stop. I also don't know how black the word black actually means or if it is even permanent. Sorry I don't have more details. I am someone distanced from this case. David On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:05 PM, James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com wrote: what ppm? ionic or colloidal silver? What was in the CS? From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: CSnebulized silver and black tongue Hi All, FYI, I need to report on a negative result from nebulized EIS. A person nebulized it for lung cancer. He was alternating days with H2O2. He stopped it after his tongue reportedly turned black. His lung tumor also remained unchanged in size. This unfortunately also weights against the few anecdotes we have of lung cancer benefitting from nebulized silver. David
Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
Wonder if this person was using hydrogen peroxide or other oxidizer? My tongue started turning black when I used a hydrogen peroxide mouth wash for a while. Also when I used gly-oxide drops to swish in my mouth. I looked it up and did find black tongue listed as a possible side effect of oral hydrogen peroxide use. Del From: Neville Munn Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSnebulized silver and black tongue Sounds like if information is hard to get there's probly a lot *NOT* being said? I'd say it's self inflicted by means of which we will in all probability never know. N. Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:13:10 -0700 Subject: Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Unfortunately, the person in question hard to get information from. In the future I hope to get the bottle of whatever he was using and confirm that it was ionic. I won't be able to know if anything was mixed with it though, but if they followed the instructions they were given, they would not have. In any case, you look at your tongue, you see hey it looks a little different, and there is no risk of getting any serious cosmetic problem. You just stop. I also don't know how black the word black actually means or if it is even permanent. Sorry I don't have more details. I am someone distanced from this case. David On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:05 PM, James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com wrote: what ppm? ionic or colloidal silver? What was in the CS? -- From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: CSnebulized silver and black tongue Hi All, FYI, I need to report on a negative result from nebulized EIS. A person nebulized it for lung cancer. He was alternating days with H2O2. He stopped it after his tongue reportedly turned black. His lung tumor also remained unchanged in size. This unfortunately also weights against the few anecdotes we have of lung cancer benefitting from nebulized silver. David
Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
Indeed, I found lots of sites which implicate H2O2 in causing black tongue. Marshall On 9/5/2012 9:46 AM, Del wrote: Wonder if this person was using hydrogen peroxide or other oxidizer? My tongue started turning black when I used a hydrogen peroxide mouth wash for a while. Also when I used gly-oxide drops to swish in my mouth. I looked it up and did find black tongue listed as a possible side effect of oral hydrogen peroxide use. Del *From:* Neville Munn mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:27 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* RE: CSnebulized silver and black tongue Sounds like if information is hard to get there's probly a lot *NOT* being said? I'd say it's self inflicted by means of which we will in all probability never know. N. Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:13:10 -0700 Subject: Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Unfortunately, the person in question hard to get information from. In the future I hope to get the bottle of whatever he was using and confirm that it was ionic. I won't be able to know if anything was mixed with it though, but if they followed the instructions they were given, they would not have. In any case, you look at your tongue, you see hey it looks a little different, and there is no risk of getting any serious cosmetic problem. You just stop. I also don't know how black the word black actually means or if it is even permanent. Sorry I don't have more details. I am someone distanced from this case. David On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:05 PM, James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com wrote: what ppm? ionic or colloidal silver? What was in the CS? *From:* David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:16 PM *Subject:* CSnebulized silver and black tongue Hi All, FYI, I need to report on a negative result from nebulized EIS. A person nebulized it for lung cancer. He was alternating days with H2O2. He stopped it after his tongue reportedly turned black. His lung tumor also remained unchanged in size. This unfortunately also weights against the few anecdotes we have of lung cancer benefitting from nebulized silver. David No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2437/5250 - Release Date: 09/05/12
Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
Interesting. Perhaps the alternation of the two is another variable also. Discoloration is after all associated with silver. He had been nebulizing peroxide for like a year before alternating with silver and I did not hear complaints in that time. Perhaps it could have taken this long to develop, and it was just coincidence the silver was started then, and it would be easy to assume it caused it then. Del, were you using CS around the times you used peroxide also? David
Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
Am I reading correctly that they say the black is caused by fungus because good bacteria that competes with it has been killed off? Though if that were so, one might think this would happen with every mouth wash. David
Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
I read antibiotics can also cause black tongue. Though this paper suggests it has nothing to do with bacteria or fungi at all: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2016184/?page=3
Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
CS can stain teeth. And peroxide takes it off fairly well for me. David On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:33 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: This is very interesting. I clean with CS a lot, and find it can stain countertops if I let a puddle of it dry. But if I added a little peroxide to the CS spray bottle, no staining. I've also used peroxide with baking soda to remove brown and black/grey silver stains. Just shows countertops and sinks are very different from the human body, LOL. I wonder exactly what the peroxide can be doing to cause a black tongue though. sol David AuBuchon wrote: Interesting. Perhaps the alternation of the two is another variable also. Discoloration is after all associated with silver. He had been nebulizing peroxide for like a year before alternating with silver and I did not hear complaints in that time. Perhaps it could have taken this long to develop, and it was just coincidence the silver was started then, and it would be easy to assume it caused it then. Del, were you using CS around the times you used peroxide also? David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
