Re: CS>Nail Hardener/formaldehyde

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Formaldehyde has no known safe levels.  dee



> 
> 
> 
>> urea formaldehyde resin has been a scourge in my life.   But for nails, I
>> think one could use a lacquer from art supplies to embed the anti fungal
>> herbs and silver for sustained release. There are water based varnishes
>> etc.
> 
> 



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Re: CS>Vitamin C

[PT Ferrance]

I thought it was the other way around... Vit C neutralizes Iodine?
PT





From: Paul 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 7, 2012 2:15:45 AM
Subject: CS>Vitamin C

It'll peak at a couple of hours, then quickly tail off.  By 12 hours there's 
very little left, so if you're megadosing regular C and want to avoid bowel 
tolerance issues, perhaps somewhere around the 2 hour mark you'd take an extra 
dose.

Maybe taking Iodine in the morning and wait a couple of hours before starting 
the vit C schedule.  The idodine would be used up long before it neutralised 
the 
Vit C because of the huge difference in quantities of the two consumed.

Paul B

On 11/5/2012 12:03:43 PM, Melly Bag (tita_...@yahoo.com) wrote:

> How much is the megadosing of the Vit C, please? Is it true that vitamin C
> has a half life of half an hour? If so, can it allow users to supplement
> with iodine without the Iodine being cancelled out by C?


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Re: CS>Vitamin C

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

It is. dee



From: PT Ferrance 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:00:36 -0800 (PST)
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: CS>Vitamin C
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:00:36 -0800

I thought it was the other way around... Vit C neutralizes Iodine?
PT


From: Paul 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 7, 2012 2:15:45 AM
Subject: CS>Vitamin C

It'll peak at a couple of hours, then quickly tail off.  By 12 hours there's
very little left, so if you're megadosing regular C and want to avoid bowel
tolerance issues, perhaps somewhere around the 2 hour mark you'd take an
extra dose.

Maybe taking Iodine in the morning and wait a couple of hours before
starting the vit C schedule.  The idodine would be used up long before it
neutralised the Vit C because of the huge difference in quantities of the
two consumed.

Paul B

Re: CS>Storing water

[Ode Coyote]

Old wives ..no tail.
  "Gotta have lizards in the well."
Salamanders in the cistern, actually [They can't live in bad water ]

..poorly designed cistern?

ode


At 05:14 AM 11/6/2012 -0800, you wrote:

Hi Ode,
This is interesting and useful information.  I lived with cisterns and 
while I would bathe in the water I wouldn't drink it.  Every time I did I 
got sick.  Then the cistern was cleaned and you wouldn't believe what they 
shoveled out at the bottom.  No wonder I got sick.  Live and dead critters!

Just my experience.
PT


From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 6, 2012 8:03:49 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Storing water

Experiments in collecting rain water off a tin roof:
Let it rain a while to wash the roof and the airthe water came up 
quite pure at around 2 uS conductivity or less.
Probably not uniformly sterile, but cisterns have been used for potable 
water for centuries. [usually made of concrete or masonry where lime might 
sterilize the water]


 Back in the day:  I would tie a very large tarp by the corners to tree 
trunks, cut a hole in the central sag to fill an upended open ended [with 
screen wire to keep out the skeeters], 275 gallon drum...spigot and hose 
just off the bottom.
..nice dry spot to watch it rain from and LOTS of water, very fast, even 
during a light rain. [but with everything smaller than screen that was on 
the trees in it ]


Inexpensive water filter [used for years and years to filter rain water 
caught on the old bus roof channeled into hose line by gutters on the sides]
10 feet of 4" PVC pipe and end caps drilled and tapped to take 1/2" pipe 
thread hose fittings , polyester pillow stuffing and a few pounds of 
activated charcoal.


Interesting process learned last night:
A clear water bottle left in full sun with Aluminum foil on one side to 
reflect  concentrated sunlight back into the bottle  [parabolic mirror] 
will sterilize the water in about 6 hours.

 Heat? and concentrated UV light.
UV lights are often installed along well to home water lines.

  Looking into water purification kits at REI...

Some had powdered Chlorine to kill everything..and..H2O2 to drive off the 
Chlorine.

ie: Add H202 to tap water and wind up with water with no sterilant in it.



-Does hydrogen peroxide remove chlorine? Hydrogen peroxide can be used for 
dechlorination, in other words to remove residual chlorine. Residual 
chlorine forms corrosive acids when it is oxidised by air or condenses in 
process systems. When chlorine reacts with hydrogen peroxide, the hydrogen 
peroxide falls apart into water and oxygen. Chlorine gas hydrolyses into 
hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which subsequently ionises into hypochlorite 
ions (OCl-).

Cl2 + H2O à HOCl + HCl à H2O + OCl-

After that, hydrogen peroxide reacts with the hypochlorite:

OCl- + H2O2 à Cl- + H2O + O2

The reaction between hydrogen peroxide and hypochlorite takes place very 
quickly. Other organic and inorganic substances cannot react with 
hypochlorite.


Lots of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Color_safe_bleach







Boiling for water sterilization



Boiling can be used as a method of water disinfection but is only 
advocated as an emergency water treatment method, or as a method of 
portable water purification in rural or wilderness settings without access 
to a potable water infrastructure. Bringing water to the boil is effective 
in killing or inactivating most bacteria, viruses and pathogens. Boiling 
is the most certain way of killing nearly all microorganisms. According to 
the Wilderness Medical 
Society[1], 
water temperatures above 160°F (70°C) kill all pathogens within 30 minutes 
and above 185°F (85°C) within a few minutes. So in the time it takes for 
the water to reach the boiling point (212°F or 100°C) from 160°F (70°C), 
all pathogens will be killed, even at high altitude. To be extra safe, let 
the water boil rapidly for one minute, especially at higher altitudes 
since water boils at a lower 
temperature.[1]




Silver, copper and zinc are all metals that will kill micro-organisms at 
very low concentrations.
Hydronium [H3], an acidic byproduct of electrolysis will sterilize water 
at low concentrations as well..and..it neutralizes after a while as it 
finds the  counterpart also produced, or both bubble off.

 Warm up that water in the sun to help de-gass it.
Got a car battery, [solar panel?  Bicycle with old style generator?] some 
old galvanized pipe or copper wire and some jumper cables ?


Ode

Ode

Re: CS>Vitamin C

[PT Ferrance]

Thanks, Dee.
PT





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Wed, November 7, 2012 8:38:10 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Vitamin C

Re: CS>Vitamin C It is. dee



From: PT Ferrance 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:00:36 -0800 (PST)
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: CS>Vitamin C
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:00:36 -0800

I thought it was the other way around... Vit C neutralizes Iodine?
PT



From:Paul 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 7, 2012 2:15:45 AM
Subject: CS>Vitamin C

It'll peak at a couple of hours, then quickly tail off.  By 12 hours there's 
very little left, so if you're megadosing regular C and want to avoid bowel 
tolerance issues, perhaps somewhere around the 2 hour mark you'd take an extra 
dose.

Maybe taking Iodine in the morning and wait a couple of hours before starting 
the vit C schedule.  The idodine would be used up long before it neutralised 
the 
Vit C because of the huge difference in quantities of the two consumed.

Paul B

Re: CS>Storing water

[PT Ferrance]

Actually poisonous toads!  And yes, probably a poorly designed cistern but I 
have seen frogs come out of toilets by going down the roof pipes and coming up 
drains as well.
PT





From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 7, 2012 8:56:46 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Storing water


Old wives ..no tail.
  "Gotta have lizards in the well."
Salamanders in the cistern, actually [They can't live in bad water ]

..poorly designed cistern?

ode


At 05:14 AM 11/6/2012 -0800, you wrote:

Hi Ode,
>This is interesting and useful information.  I lived with cisterns and while I 
>would bathe in the water I wouldn't drink it.  Every time I did I got sick.  
>Then the cistern was cleaned and you wouldn't believe what they shoveled out 
>at 
>the bottom.  No wonder I got sick.  Live and dead critters!
>Just my experience.
>PT
>
>
>From: Ode Coyote 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Tue, November 6, 2012 8:03:49 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Storing water
>
>Experiments in collecting rain water off a tin roof:
>Let it rain a while to wash the roof and the airthe water came up quite 
>pure 
>at around 2 uS conductivity or less.
>Probably not uniformly sterile, but cisterns have been used for potable water 
>for centuries. [usually made of concrete or masonry where lime might sterilize 
>the water]
>
> Back in the day:  I would tie a very large tarp by the corners to tree 
> trunks, 
>cut a hole in the central sag to fill an upended open ended [with screen wire 
>to 
>keep out the skeeters], 275 gallon drum...spigot and hose just off the bottom.
>..nice dry spot to watch it rain from and LOTS of water, very fast, even 
>during 
>a light rain. [but with everything smaller than screen that was on the trees 
>in 
>it ]
>
>Inexpensive water filter [used for years and years to filter rain water caught 
>on the old bus roof channeled into hose line by gutters on the sides]
>10 feet of 4" PVC pipe and end caps drilled and tapped to take 1/2" pipe 
>thread 
>hose fittings , polyester pillow stuffing and a few pounds of activated 
>charcoal.
>
>Interesting process learned last night:
>A clear water bottle left in full sun with Aluminum foil on one side to 
>reflect  
>concentrated sunlight back into the bottle  [parabolic mirror] will sterilize 
>the water in about 6 hours.
> Heat? and concentrated UV light.
>UV lights are often installed along well to home water lines.
>
>  Looking into water purification kits at REI...
>
>Some had powdered Chlorine to kill everything..and..H2O2 to drive off the 
>Chlorine.
>ie: Add H202 to tap water and wind up with water with no sterilant in it.
>
>
>
>-Does hydrogen peroxide remove chlorine? Hydrogen peroxide can be used for 
>dechlorination, in other words to remove residual chlorine. Residual chlorine 
>forms corrosive acids when it is oxidised by air or condenses in process 
>systems. When chlorine reacts with hydrogen peroxide, the hydrogen peroxide 
>falls apart into water and oxygen. Chlorine gas hydrolyses into hypochlorous 
>acid (HOCl), which subsequently ionises into hypochlorite ions (OCl-).
>Cl2 + H2O à HOCl + HCl à H2O + OCl- 
>
>After that, hydrogen peroxide reacts with the hypochlorite:
>
>OCl- + H2O2 à Cl- + H2O + O2
>
>The reaction between hydrogen peroxide and hypochlorite takes place very 
>quickly. Other organic and inorganic substances cannot react with 
>hypochlorite. 
>
>
>Lots of info:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Color_safe_bleach
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Boiling for water sterilization
>
>Boiling can be used as a method of water disinfection but is only advocated as 
>an emergency water treatment method, or as a method of portable water 
>purification in rural or wilderness settings without access to a potable water 
>infrastructure. Bringing water to the boil is effective in killing or 
>inactivating most bacteria, viruses and pathogens. Boiling is the most certain 
>way of killing nearly all microorganisms. According to the Wilderness Medical 
>Society[1], water temperatures above 160°F (70°C) kill all pathogens within 30 
>minutes and above 185°F (85°C) within a few minutes. So in the time it takes 
>for 
>the water to reach the boiling point (212°F or 100°C) from 160°F (70°C), all 
>pathogens will be killed, even at high altitude. To be extra safe, let the 
>water 
>boil rapidly for one minute, especially at higher altitudes since water boils 
>at 
>a lower temperature.[1]
>
>
>
>Silver, copper and zinc are all metals that will kill micro-organisms at very 
>low concentrations.
>Hydronium [H3], an acidic byproduct of electrolysis will sterilize water at 
>low 
>concentrations as well..and..it neutralizes after a while as it finds the  
>counterpart also produced, or both bubble off.
> Warm up that water in the sun to help de-gass it.
>Got a car battery, [solar panel?  Bicycle with old style generator?] some old 
>galvanized pipe or copper wire and some jumper cables  ?
>
>Ode
>
>Ode
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Toenail Fungus Muscadine seed oil

[Gayla Chepourkoff]

I never saw an answer to this question. Where can you get muscadine seed
oil or lotion? Thanx!
Gayla

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:

> Hi, Tara
>
>  Can you tell me where you get your Muscadine grape seed lotions?  My
> son has severe case of fungus nailsl.  Does it work also on callus?   Helen
> --- On *Fri, 11/2/12, 123 456 * wrote:
>
>
> From: 123 456 
>
> Subject: Re: CS>Toenail Fungus
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Friday, November 2, 2012, 3:57 AM
>
>
> Hey, everyone,
> I keep saying this and mayb, just MAYbe someone will eventually try this.
> The Muscadine grape seed lotions kill fungus because it has two (2)
> extra chromosomes in teh seed for exactly that function... to kill
> fungal growth.
> I use the lotion (trans dermal herbal therapy) on my clients feet (I
> am a certified Reflexologist BTW) and in a few days they start to see
> the moons on their toe nails and NO fungus recurring.
> Just a thought.
> Tara
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Vitamin C

[Marshall]

Normally when two substances react with each other they neutralize each 
other.  For instance if you put vinegar into baking soda, they react, 
and the vinegar neutralizes the baking soda, and the baking soda 
neutralizes the vinegar.  There can be exceptions when dealing with 
enzymes and catalysts though.


Marshall

On 11/7/2012 8:00 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:

I thought it was the other way around... Vit C neutralizes Iodine?
PT


*From:* Paul 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wed, November 7, 2012 2:15:45 AM
*Subject:* CS>Vitamin C

It'll peak at a couple of hours, then quickly tail off.  By 12 hours 
there's very little left, so if you're megadosing regular C and want 
to avoid bowel tolerance issues, perhaps somewhere around the 2 hour 
mark you'd take an extra dose.


Maybe taking Iodine in the morning and wait a couple of hours before 
starting the vit C schedule.  The idodine would be used up long before 
it neutralised the Vit C because of the huge difference in quantities 
of the two consumed.


Paul B

On 11/5/2012 12:03:43 PM, Melly Bag (tita_...@yahoo.com 
) wrote:


> How much is the megadosing of the Vit C, please? Is it true that 
vitamin C

> has a half life of half an hour? If so, can it allow users to supplement
> with iodine without the Iodine being cancelled out by C?


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Re: CS>Vitamin C

[PT Ferrance]

Thanks, Marshall.
PT





From: Marshall 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 7, 2012 11:19:16 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Vitamin C

Normally when two substances react with each other they neutralize each 
other.  For instance if you put vinegar into baking soda, they react, and 
the vinegar neutralizes the baking soda, and the baking soda neutralizes 
the 
vinegar.  There can be exceptions when dealing with enzymes and catalysts 
though.

Marshall

On 11/7/2012 8:00 AM, PT Ferrance wrote: 
I thought it was the other way around... Vit C neutralizes   Iodine?
>PT
>
>
>
>

From: Paul 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wed,   November 7, 2012 2:15:45 AM
>Subject: CS>Vitamin C
>
>It'll peak at a couple of hours, then quickly tail off.  By 12 
>hours 
>there's very little left, so if you're megadosing regular C and 
>want 
>to avoid bowel tolerance issues, perhaps somewhere around the 2 
>hour 
>mark you'd take an extra dose.
>
>Maybe taking Iodine in the morning and wait a couple of hours 
>before 
>starting the vit C schedule.  The idodine would be used up long 
>before it neutralised the Vit C because of the huge difference in 
>quantities of the two consumed.
>
>Paul B
>
>On 11/5/2012 12:03:43 PM, Melly Bag (tita_...@yahoo.com) wrote:
>
>> How much is the megadosing of the Vit C, please? Is it true that 
>>vitamin C
>> has a half life of half an hour? If so, can it allow users to 
>>supplement
>> with iodine without the Iodine being cancelled out by C?
>
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CS>Borax in water

[Melly Bag]

Thank you Saralou.  I was thinking of doingjust  that and it is so timely that 
you posted what you were doing.  Now i am more confident to follow your way of 
doing it.  Did you follow the measure of 1/8 tsp to a liter of water also?
 
Melly

CS>Vit C and Iodine

[Melly Bag]

Thank you Paul.
 
Thanks Dee and PT for straightening out my mistake.  Now i understand Vit 
C neutralizes iodine.  Will adjust timing of my intake of iodine to mid morning 
then.
 
Melly

Re: Sv: RE: CS> Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer

[olushola camara]

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dave Darrin  wrote:

>   Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and
> deprives your thyroid of something it needs.
>
>
>
Maybe the problem is with the synthetic form of vitamin C iinstead of a
whole food choice.

Olushola