Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system Allen et al performed a detailed study in mice on the effect of chronic IV administration of liposomes on MPS function.. Decreased uptake of liposomes into the liver combined with increased uptake into the spleen were taken as evidence of MPS impairment. Significant depression in phagocytic index was observed after 2 to 3 IV injections. In the case of liposomes of rigid composition (PC/SM) considerable spenomegaly was observed. ...It was suggested that liposomes with rigid bilayers caused greater impairment than those with fluid bilayers. In addition there wee granulomatous reaction in the liver. The appearaince of granulomas was correlated with depression of the phagocytic index. Similar findings were described earlier by Weereratne et al. IV injections of 100mg/kg of SM/Chol liposomes led to 50 and 300% enlargement of the liver and spleen respectively. No such effect was ovserved after similar treatment with PC/Chol liposomes. In the opinion of Claassen et al the results of Weereratne and Allen were not indicative of significant toxicity, but only reflected a temporary disturbance. A potential problem with conventional liposomes, particularly when delivered intravenously, is their rapid removal from circulation by cells of the reticuloendothelial system particularly in the liver and spleen. To circumvent the phagocytic cells of the immune system and hence enhance their half-life in the circulation, “stealth liposomes” have been designed. Stealth liposomes are created by coating the liposomes with a layer of polyethylene glycol-phosphatidylethanolamine (PEG liposomes). M On 11/29/2012 12:16 PM, André Juthe wrote: Do you have any reference for that? I never heard of that, I would like to read more about it. /AJ 2012/11/29 mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com: Any liposomes that get into the blood stream are attacked by macrophages. One can in fact overburden your immune system this way. So they have devised stealth liposomes to avoid this. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSolution for warts?
I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for their responses to my question. I think I'll start with the simplest suggestion (castor oil -- thanks PT) and if necessary, progress to the more difficult. Thanks everyone -- it's appreciated!! MA On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:18 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Alternatively you can keep it wet with castor oil until it comes together and you can pull it out. Change the dressing several times a day so it always stays wet with the castor oil. I have used castor oil successfully for this purpose. PT From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:30 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I have had extremely tenacious plantar warts for a long time. I remember my mother putting acid crystals on warts on my foot when I was 8 or 9 years old. I ended up using strong acid on them whenever they got out of control, and had them frozen out a few times, but they would always come back. They seemed to be impervious to colloidal silver even though I took small doses for a long time and large doses for shorter times. Finally, I was taking MMS using their initial protocols for several months (never could get past 9 drops) and I found that all the warts on my feet had gone and the same with any warts on my hands. That was several years ago at least and they have never returned, so I feel that the MMS cleaned them out systemically. They now have much milder protocols for internal use, and there are protocols for external use as well, such as for soaking feet, so I would definitely try that if you have access to MMS. If you use it internally, I would caution you to use it at the newer low levels such as their protocol 1000 and take your antioxidants and baking soda once a day so as not to have any problem with the oxidant and/or acidic properties of the MMS. Dan On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have an odd problem, and wonder if anyone has a suggestion. I have a wart (probably plantars?) on the outside of my left foot, just below the joint of the small toe. This is on the ridge of the foot, and a callus has formed there as well. The whole thing is getting large enough that it has begun to hurt to walk on it. I'd really like to avoid the ministrations of a doctor, if possible. Any ideas? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSolution for warts?
Jane -- I'm not familiar with Thuja tincture -- what is that, please? MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:42 AM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I develop corns there too just pull off the hardened skin - I would put a tight dressing using Thuja tincture on over the wart ( light airproof ) and just wait til it drops off. I have done this on warts for people and it has worked well. Jane
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Vit. d is mouse a poison From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
What is MPS function? TIA On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:49 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Vit. d is mouse a poison -- *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM *Subject:* Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Hey sorry to interject but vit D is a mouse poison?? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: What is MPS function? TIA On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:49 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Vit. d is mouse a poison -- *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM *Subject:* Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
CSCoating on silver rods.
The silver rods of my Silver Puppy are pretty much white. I use the swap and automatic setting and it seems to work just fine as it has for years. Should I be concerned or it it fine to run it this way? Cheers, Pam -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Yes I ask the same question, are you saying that using liposomal form of vitamin-C and similar compounds are detrimental to our immune system? One should expect FDA would have been more careful before thay approved of liposomal delivery systems if their was problematic. I make my own liposomal vitamin c and my own liposomal curcummin, should I stop? Regards, André Juthe (AJ) 2012/12/5 Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org: I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSolution for warts?
For some reason my comment never made it to the list so here it is: my friend had many warts on her hands, some on the joints and some even growing from under her nails. She had them frozen off and they came back, cut out and they came back. The whole process was painful. She bought some generic hemorrhoid cream and put on them at night with a pair of gloves. In just a couple of weeks they slowly week away and have never come back and that's been over a year ago. Edith -Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:28 am Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Jane -- I'm not familiar with Thuja tincture -- what is that, please? MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:42 AM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I develop corns there too just pull off the hardened skin - I would put a tight dressing using Thuja tincture on over the wart ( light airproof ) and just wait til it drops off. I have done this on warts for people and it has worked well. Jane
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
On 12/5/2012 11:56 AM, André Juthe wrote: Yes I ask the same question, are you saying that using liposomal form of vitamin-C and similar compounds are detrimental to our immune system? One should expect FDA would have been more careful before thay approved of liposomal delivery systems if their was problematic. I make my own liposomal vitamin c and my own liposomal curcummin, should I stop? Regards, André Juthe (AJ) I dont get the impression that liposome Vit C is bad for the immune system, although the harder or stabilized liposomes have shown to create dramatic if transient spleen and liver enlargement as well as transient depression of phagocyte response. FDA is not careful to stop many toxic drugs from being marketed. My humble thought is that if you feel good taking your liposome C and Curcumin, then continue. Nothing is very simple with the body and vitamins though. For example, minerals exist in a tight interactive web of sorts such that taking more of one may deplete others. Is calcium good for bones? If yes, then why do some studies show that low calcium consuming native populations have better bone density than high calcium consumers? Should we then stop taking calcium, or instead try for a balance with magnesium and all the others? For the most part, the questions are resolved by eating and living naturally. If you are trying to battle a cancer or something, there could be a good reason to take lipo C. But if you simply feel better taking it, then thats a good sign. I tried sending this before, excuse me if it is a repost; /MPS = mononuclear phagocyte system/ The body is amazingly complicated. A simplistic logic often wont apply, for example free radicals are bad, oxygen is good, Vit C is an antioxidant so therefore good. These things are true but there is always more to it. I just posted this copy on the DIY liposome forum about Vit C; Ascorbic acid (AA) AA, known for its antioxidant activity, also acts as a prooxidant . ... during the oxidation reduction process, glutathione (GSH) is converted into GSH disulfide, depleting intracellular stores of GSH and increasing reactive oxygen species ( ROS). AA has been shown to synergize with As2O3 (arsenic trioxide) for effective growth-inhibition and apoptosis (cell death). ascorbic acid potentiated the cytotoxic effect of arsenic trioxide in multiple myeloma cell lines. They also demonstrated that ascorbic acid suppressed GSH, increased ROS and enhanced apoptotic changes. So vit C can act as a cancer fighting supplement by increasing reactive oxygen speciesfree radicals, just about the opposite of what one might expect. The fact that it depletes glutathione is interesting since this is one of the best antioxidants we have. Whey protein is suggested to increase glutathione. Arsenic is a poison but it is part of a traditional Chinese medicine used for leukemia. Its interesting that vit C potentiates arsenic trioxide. Thus a poison can be used for therapy, not an uncommon idea in the pharmaceutical world! Arsenic may work also by tagging one of two proteins that become fused causing a tumor; PML-RARa is marked for degradation by ubiquitin, turning the cancer cells back into normal cells. Following time honored concepts like fresh and raw fruits and veggies, or perhaps the Mediterranean diet, using herbs for nutrition and detoxification, exercising, sunbathing etc will naturally balance all of these difficult and complicated processes. The above description of the oxidizing effect, cytotoxic potential of Vit C via production of hydrogen peroxide, show that this could support an immune system attack on unwanted cells. Healthy cells may be protected by the enzyme catalase which is often deficient in tumor cells. So in that way is good for the immune system, although it may be difficult to achieve blood levels of vit C that are sufficient to kill tumor cells. Addition of vit k3, another hydrogen peroxide generator, and lipoic acid reduces the required C saturation level to achieve cancer cell apoptosis. At lower concentrations it may have opposite effects, acting as an antioxidant, and performing many useful functions like strengthening the extracellular matrix. It does raise the question that if high doses of vit C deplete glutathione, maybe its not warranted for chronic use at mega dose levels. I dont know about liposome vit D3. Sunbathing could be a free and enjoyable alternative. Since Becker observed that silver ions could dedifferentiate cells, its always been a question in my mind if this could be a two edged sword. A de differntiated cell doesnt seem so good until its re differentiated back in the right way. Are we assured that this is the case, for example when silver ions cross the blood brain barrier?
Re: CSSolution for warts?
Wow Edith -- go figure, huh? I had plantar's warts frozen off when I was a kid. They stayed away for all of my life -- until this one (just one) showed up. It's been slow-growing, so I could ignore it -- but just got large enough to start being uncomfortable. So it's time to do something about it, and I didn't want to go the freezing route again -- it HURTS Thanks for your suggestion, which I will keep on hand. Today I bought the supplies for PT's castor-oil treatment. I'll try that first and see what happens. Thanks again. MA From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 1:20:36 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? For some reason my comment never made it to the list so here it is: my friend had many warts on her hands, some on the joints and some even growing from under her nails. She had them frozen off and they came back, cut out and they came back. The whole process was painful. She bought some generic hemorrhoid cream and put on them at night with a pair of gloves. In just a couple of weeks they slowly week away and have never come back and that's been over a year ago. Edith -Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:28 am Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Jane -- I'm not familiar with Thuja tincture -- what is that, please? MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:42 AM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I develop corns there too just pull off the hardened skin - I would put a tight dressing using Thuja tincture on over the wart ( light airproof ) and just wait til it drops off. I have done this on warts for people and it has worked well. Jane
RE: CSSolution for warts?
I got rid of one on the sole of my foot using those circular caustic stick on pad thingo's. When enough meat had been burnt away exposing the root, I yanked it out. Well actually there were three in the same area, two looked the same but the third one looked different, I reckon that was the main one and the other two were its mates. Be prepared though, you need to make pain your friend, instant and gone in a split second, but still extremely painful ripping them out. Fixed it good though, job done. N. Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:22:29 -0800 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Wow Edith -- go figure, huh? I had plantar's warts frozen off when I was a kid. They stayed away for all of my life -- until this one (just one) showed up. It's been slow-growing, so I could ignore it -- but just got large enough to start being uncomfortable. So it's time to do something about it, and I didn't want to go the freezing route again -- it HURTS Thanks for your suggestion, which I will keep on hand. Today I bought the supplies for PT's castor-oil treatment. I'll try that first and see what happens. Thanks again. MA From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 1:20:36 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? For some reason my comment never made it to the list so here it is: my friend had many warts on her hands, some on the joints and some even growing from under her nails. She had them frozen off and they came back, cut out and they came back. The whole process was painful. She bought some generic hemorrhoid cream and put on them at night with a pair of gloves. In just a couple of weeks they slowly week away and have never come back and that's been over a year ago. Edith -Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:28 am Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Jane -- I'm not familiar with Thuja tincture -- what is that, please? MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:42 AM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I develop corns there too just pull off the hardened skin - I would put a tight dressing using Thuja tincture on over the wart ( light airproof ) and just wait til it drops off. I have done this on warts for people and it has worked well. Jane
Re: CSSolution for warts?
Ouch!! Ouch ouch ouch!!! I don't know if I'm that brave. I'd just like to kill it and it sort of dries up and goes away. MA From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 7:12:25 PM Subject: RE: CSSolution for warts? I got rid of one on the sole of my foot using those circular caustic stick on pad thingo's. When enough meat had been burnt away exposing the root, I yanked it out. Well actually there were three in the same area, two looked the same but the third one looked different, I reckon that was the main one and the other two were its mates. Be prepared though, you need to make pain your friend, instant and gone in a split second, but still extremely painful ripping them out. Fixed it good though, job done. N. Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:22:29 -0800 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Wow Edith -- go figure, huh? I had plantar's warts frozen off when I was a kid. They stayed away for all of my life -- until this one (just one) showed up. It's been slow-growing, so I could ignore it -- but just got large enough to start being uncomfortable. So it's time to do something about it, and I didn't want to go the freezing route again -- it HURTS Thanks for your suggestion, which I will keep on hand. Today I bought the supplies for PT's castor-oil treatment. I'll try that first and see what happens. Thanks again. MA From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 1:20:36 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? For some reason my comment never made it to the list so here it is: my friend had many warts on her hands, some on the joints and some even growing from under her nails. She had them frozen off and they came back, cut out and they came back. The whole process was painful. She bought some generic hemorrhoid cream and put on them at night with a pair of gloves. In just a couple of weeks they slowly week away and have never come back and that's been over a year ago. Edith -Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:28 am Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Jane -- I'm not familiar with Thuja tincture -- what is that, please? MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:42 AM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I develop corns there too just pull off the hardened skin - I would put a tight dressing using Thuja tincture on over the wart ( light airproof ) and just wait til it drops off. I have done this on warts for people and it has worked well. Jane
Re: CSSolution for warts?
That is not the way it works MA. It doesn't dry up and go away... at least not in my experience. PT From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 8:24:53 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Ouch!! Ouch ouch ouch!!! I don't know if I'm that brave. I'd just like to kill it and it sort of dries up and goes away. MA From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 7:12:25 PM Subject: RE: CSSolution for warts? I got rid of one on the sole of my foot using those circular caustic stick on pad thingo's. When enough meat had been burnt away exposing the root, I yanked it out. Well actually there were three in the same area, two looked the same but the third one looked different, I reckon that was the main one and the other two were its mates. Be prepared though, you need to make pain your friend, instant and gone in a split second, but still extremely painful ripping them out. Fixed it good though, job done. N. Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:22:29 -0800 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Wow Edith -- go figure, huh? I had plantar's warts frozen off when I was a kid. They stayed away for all of my life -- until this one (just one) showed up. It's been slow-growing, so I could ignore it -- but just got large enough to start being uncomfortable. So it's time to do something about it, and I didn't want to go the freezing route again -- it HURTS Thanks for your suggestion, which I will keep on hand. Today I bought the supplies for PT's castor-oil treatment. I'll try that first and see what happens. Thanks again. MA From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 1:20:36 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? For some reason my comment never made it to the list so here it is: my friend had many warts on her hands, some on the joints and some even growing from under her nails. She had them frozen off and they came back, cut out and they came back. The whole process was painful. She bought some generic hemorrhoid cream and put on them at night with a pair of gloves. In just a couple of weeks they slowly week away and have never come back and that's been over a year ago. Edith -Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:28 am Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Jane -- I'm not familiar with Thuja tincture -- what is that, please? MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:42 AM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I develop corns there too just pull off the hardened skin - I would put a tight dressing using Thuja tincture on over the wart ( light airproof ) and just wait til it drops off. I have done this on warts for people and it has worked well. Jane
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Rats :-( MA From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 7:26:38 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? That is not the way it works MA. It doesn't dry up and go away... at least not in my experience. PT From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 8:24:53 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Ouch!! Ouch ouch ouch!!! I don't know if I'm that brave. I'd just like to kill it and it sort of dries up and goes away. MA From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 7:12:25 PM Subject: RE: CSSolution for warts? I got rid of one on the sole of my foot using those circular caustic stick on pad thingo's. When enough meat had been burnt away exposing the root, I yanked it out. Well actually there were three in the same area, two looked the same but the third one looked different, I reckon that was the main one and the other two were its mates. Be prepared though, you need to make pain your friend, instant and gone in a split second, but still extremely painful ripping them out. Fixed it good though, job done. N. Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:22:29 -0800 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Wow Edith -- go figure, huh? I had plantar's warts frozen off when I was a kid. They stayed away for all of my life -- until this one (just one) showed up. It's been slow-growing, so I could ignore it -- but just got large enough to start being uncomfortable. So it's time to do something about it, and I didn't want to go the freezing route again -- it HURTS Thanks for your suggestion, which I will keep on hand. Today I bought the supplies for PT's castor-oil treatment. I'll try that first and see what happens. Thanks again. MA From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 1:20:36 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? For some reason my comment never made it to the list so here it is: my friend had many warts on her hands, some on the joints and some even growing from under her nails. She had them frozen off and they came back, cut out and they came back. The whole process was painful. She bought some generic hemorrhoid cream and put on them at night with a pair of gloves. In just a couple of weeks they slowly week away and have never come back and that's been over a year ago. Edith -Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:28 am Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Jane -- I'm not familiar with Thuja tincture -- what is that, please? MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:42 AM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I develop corns there too just pull off the hardened skin - I would put a tight dressing using Thuja tincture on over the wart ( light airproof ) and just wait til it drops off. I have done this on warts for people and it has worked well. Jane
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THUJA TINCTURE!! Seriously yes, I shouted. Jane :P - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 12:38 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Rats :-( MA -- From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 7:26:38 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? That is not the way it works MA. It doesn't dry up and go away... at least not in my experience. PT -- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 8:24:53 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Ouch!! Ouch ouch ouch!!! I don't know if I'm that brave. I'd just like to kill it and it sort of dries up and goes away. MA -- From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 7:12:25 PM Subject: RE: CSSolution for warts? I got rid of one on the sole of my foot using those circular caustic stick on pad thingo's. When enough meat had been burnt away exposing the root, I yanked it out. Well actually there were three in the same area, two looked the same but the third one looked different, I reckon that was the main one and the other two were its mates. Be prepared though, you need to make pain your friend, instant and gone in a split second, but still extremely painful ripping them out. Fixed it good though, job done. N. -- Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:22:29 -0800 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Wow Edith -- go figure, huh? I had plantar's warts frozen off when I was a kid. They stayed away for all of my life -- until this one (just one) showed up. It's been slow-growing, so I could ignore it -- but just got large enough to start being uncomfortable. So it's time to do something about it, and I didn't want to go the freezing route again -- it HURTS Thanks for your suggestion, which I will keep on hand. Today I bought the supplies for PT's castor-oil treatment. I'll try that first and see what happens. Thanks again. MA -- From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 1:20:36 PM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? For some reason my comment never made it to the list so here it is: my friend had many warts on her hands, some on the joints and some even growing from under her nails. She had them frozen off and they came back, cut out and they came back. The whole process was painful. She bought some generic hemorrhoid cream and put on them at night with a pair of gloves. In just a couple of weeks they slowly week away and have never come back and that's been over a year ago. Edith -Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:28 am Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? Jane -- I'm not familiar with Thuja tincture -- what is that, please? MA -- From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:42 AM Subject: Re: CSSolution for warts? I develop corns there too just pull off the hardened skin - I would put a tight dressing using Thuja tincture on over the wart ( light airproof ) and just wait til it drops off. I have done this on warts for people and it has worked well. Jane No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5439 - Release Date: 12/05/12
