Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
Neville
My mother had shingles. It nearly killed her. Dont mess
around/experiment for your own curiosity. Do everything you can do as
soon as possible. Post herpetic neuralgia is hell
M
On 8/21/2013 9:02 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
Hi Melly,
Look, please don't think I'm an ingrate, I am appreciative of all
suggestions regarding Shingles treatments, but must confess I know
less than zero about all/any of the other stuff used. Simply put I
suppose, I have a mindset that dictates if I use any other protocol I
will never be able to categorically state EIS alone fixed a particular
health issue.
I'm familiar with the infrared light because if I'm right, they are
the things we used for chickens for warmth until they grew a bit.
Her case is most certainly more severe than our lads case that's for
sure. I could count the blisters which broke the skin on the fingers
or one hand in his case, the rest seemed to disappear from the inside
before breaking the skin. His case was fairly ugly, but this case is
much uglier. It still bugs me I didn't follow the same protocol now
as I did with him gr.
If I may, I will use your time frame to monitor this case. I fixed
our lads case in around 7 days from memory, the remaining week was
just the complete recovery stage. It was perfectly obvious we were on
top of it towards the end of the first week of treatment.
Age related ...month or year to heal Good grief, she could be in
for the long haul with this case then. Her case is worse than the
lads though so I will have to monitor it for a while by the sound of
things.
Thank You for the information, I really do appreciate it, and to
reiterate, all other input also. I just don't really want to go down
any other path due to not being in a position to point the finger at
ONE thing that may have fixed an issue. It will always be a question
of - was it this that fixed it, or was it that? I like to remove all
doubt so I KNOW what worked without having to question it g. Just
my Neanderthal mindset.
She probly doesn't have a great surface area of issue {don't know,
don't know anything about Shingles} mainly two small areas on left
side of back and another larger area on left side of stomach just
above belt line.
Today I sprayed the lower back area and also soaked the knickers at
the site. Not a great deal I can do with the stomach though, only
spray the area and soak the clothing at that site. All areas have
been sprayed each day a few times prior, but not the clothing.
If amount of lesions, or lesions apparent over a given area is
indicative of any potential ongoing pain I will soon find out once
recovery is well under way, and then thereafter. I'm quietly
confident though slight smile visible.
N.
From: tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:03:43 -0500
Subject: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
I just got over shingles in May and it was so severe. The pain was
like someone was ironing my skin and inside of me was like being
sliced by a blade. Blisters and lesions were many.
RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
Don't misunderstand me or get me wrong, I'm not doing this for any selfish or egotistical reason, I'm not playing lab scientist here. EIS worked perfectly before and I'm confident it will work this time, just may take longer due to this case being a tad more severe. Apart from the suggestions already put forward there apparently is nothing in the mainstream arsenal that can help once Shingles is full blown. Either way if it works or not, or if it may be of interest to anyone else or not, I intend to inform here regardless, I'm just a little concerned regarding time frame before recovery is evident this time. N. Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:55:44 -0700 From: mgperra...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES Neville My mother had shingles. It nearly killed her. Dont mess around/experiment for your own curiosity. Do everything you can do as soon as possible. Post herpetic neuralgia is hell M On 8/21/2013 9:02 PM, Neville Munn wrote: Hi Melly,
Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
Get a cheap zapper if you dont have one. Use immediately. Violet ray may help. Check electroherbalism. Mix large doses of vitamin C with lecithin in a blender. Take to bowel tolerance I know you have faith in CS, thats fine. Its justthe potential for suffering is great On 8/22/2013 1:35 AM, Neville Munn wrote: Don't misunderstand me or get me wrong, I'm not doing this for any selfish or egotistical reason, I'm not playing lab scientist here. EIS worked perfectly before and I'm confident it will work this time, just may take longer due to this case being a tad more severe. Apart from the suggestions already put forward there apparently is nothing in the mainstream arsenal that can help once Shingles is full blown. Either way if it works or not, or if it may be of interest to anyone else or not, I intend to inform here regardless, I'm just a little concerned regarding time frame before recovery is evident this time. N. Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:55:44 -0700 From: mgperra...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES Neville My mother had shingles. It nearly killed her. Dont mess around/experiment for your own curiosity. Do everything you can do as soon as possible. Post herpetic neuralgia is hell M On 8/21/2013 9:02 PM, Neville Munn wrote: Hi Melly,
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Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
Thank you, Melly, for your helpful tips in controlling shingles. However, I'm so sorry for your suffering and anyone else's. Your description made it a lot more understandable of how painful it is and I've met quite a few others who have had it but they didn't describe it as well as you did. *wince!* Is the Chinese Anise tincture organic and non-GMO and can I buy it from a local health food store? Wondered... RaVen On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:03 PM, melly tita_...@yahoo.com wrote: I just got over shingles in May and it was so severe. The pain was like someone was ironing my skin and inside of me was like being sliced by a blade. Blisters and lesions were many. For the itch and pain I went to buy Westinghouse Infrared light 250W and the aluminum shade with ceramic socket from TS farm supply – brooders section, less than $20. I heated the lesions for 20 minutes everyday. The itch greatly subsided then disappeared. I drank anti viral teas and added chapparal tinctures and Chinese star anise tincture (which I luckily made last March). Then “soup” was applied on the lesions and blisters which is made of 50-50 colloidal silver and Swedish bitters + 1 TBSP DMSO; while still wet, I put BORAX powder and covered it with pad and plaster so medications stay. Yup, that borax dried up the blisters quickly. Also, I cleaned the area with colloidal silver and let it dry. The lesions took a long time to dry up but we continued treating it. Also took Cimetidine/Tagamet so it does not affect my organs. When I took tagamet, the slicing feeling in my inside stopped immediately, specially the stomach. It took three weeks to heal. MD said it would take 1 month to a year to heal coz it has many lesions and because of my age. Also he told me to expect pains under the lesion scars and that this can be permanent. I now have pain, in the beginning from near the outbreak beside my spine all the way to the belly button. Like half a belt including hips. I took antiviral, used red laser, violet ray, and Rife frequencies using shingles and herpes zoster settings. It is now almost gone. I found out recently that Chinese star anise is anti bacterial, anti viral, and potent anti fungal and works very well for herpes and shingles is herpes zoster. Use only Chinese star anise, Japanese star anise is poisonous. Star anise was used mainly for cooking in Asia. All above methods were learned from advice of members from different yahoogroups. So I compiled them and passed on to you. Hope it helps. Melly For more info on star anise go to: http://www.livestrong.com/article/367860-health-uses-benefits-and-risks-of-star-anise/#ixzz2M7xk6vzq From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:57 PM To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2013 #242
RE: CSRAIN WATER
Sorry Yousouf, missed this.
In reply to your snipped quote below, here's an interesting observation of mine
of several years ago...
I filled a drinking glass with rainwater from our tank and tested it with a TDS
meter {yes, I know how inaccurate they are} and after brewing for 3 minutes
that reading went down. I did ask someone about why the reading went down
instead of up and was told it was to do with electrolysis and the organics etc
in the water and if left to brew long enough the reading would eventually go
back up.
This outcome displeased me somewhat as I had no idea of silver content so I
made another batch in a drinking glass, brewed for the same time i.e. 3
minutes, and had it laboratory tested for silver content. The test was not
exhaustive or definitive as this was when I first got involved with making EIS
but the result was 40+ppm total silver content.
Not being familiar with chemistry, I found the lowering of the meter reading
after brewing a somewhat fascinating observation.
N.
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:56:58 -0700
From: ey...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
By the way the faster you achieve a high concentration is not a good sign at
all for the reasons mentioned above. This means that your water has dissolved
minerals and your water conductivity is high. With good distilled water it
takes about 20-30 minutes to get good CS. The color will be slightly golden
with a bitter aftertaste.
Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
Hi Neville,
No offense intended. I care. Horribly busy now getting ready for a family
reunion but feel I must take the time to write this.
Like you, I like to do one thing to figure out how it works, making my issue
count as a learning experience, but that said, shingles is a hell you don't
want to endure, and the longer it lingers the greater the chance of PHN which
seriously can change a person's life. PHN can pass (mine did, felt exactly like
I had a rat caged on my back trying to eat its way through my ribs to my front:
seriously). If PHN becomes entrenched and permanently affects the deeper
nerves, life can become unrelenting, incapacitating pain, perhaps for good.
Mine was far worse than back-ache labor, and worse than trigeminal nerve
inflammation. You really can't imagine unless you've had it. And it's so bad,
that unless you write down what it's like while in it, you won't be able to
fully remember it afterward, which I guess is a mercy.
My shingles lasted 6+ weeks from the first itch which I thought was my
psoriasis, to the disappearance of blisters, but then PHN deep muscle
spasm/nerve pain had developed and continued and I feared this might become a
permanent state. Those agonies haunt me still and the threat of it ever
returning or worse, the PHN returning will again make me leave NO STONE
UNTURNED.
Unless you have some vested, intellectual interest in proving that EIS is THE
sovereign remedy, anything that you can throw at shingles in combination is a
good idea especially if it is someone else doing the suffering.
I'm a Lymie lab-rat and will research and test a theory or protocol and endure
the wait to see if I'm right, but if a family member is in agony, and there's
something that many people have recommended, those are stones to be examined.
In my group at least, and if you google it you'll get confirmation, L-lysine is
an inexpensive supplement that helps the body fight herpes zoster. It's
nutritionally good for you, can do no harm and shingles vets take it regularly
to discourage h. zoster from re-emerging.
Others recommended other things and I tried just about everything as EIS wasn't
doing it fast enough. The only reason I didn't throw Nenah's suggestion of
shegoi at it was that it was already gone when she posted it, but be assured
that I'll try it, try ANYTHING, if then comes back (and it can; I know people
who have had shingles several times).
Forgive me for speaking strongly: I simply want to spare someone else suffering
as I did.
Be well,
Léna
On Aug 22, 2013, at 12:02 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
Hi Melly,
Look, please don't think I'm an ingrate, I am appreciative of all suggestions
regarding Shingles treatments, but must confess I know less than zero about
all/any of the other stuff used. Simply put I suppose, I have a mindset that
dictates if I use any other protocol I will never be able to categorically
state EIS alone fixed a particular health issue.
I'm familiar with the infrared light because if I'm right, they are the
things we used for chickens for warmth until they grew a bit.
Her case is most certainly more severe than our lads case that's for sure. I
could count the blisters which broke the skin on the fingers or one hand in
his case, the rest seemed to disappear from the inside before breaking the
skin. His case was fairly ugly, but this case is much uglier. It still bugs
me I didn't follow the same protocol now as I did with him gr.
If I may, I will use your time frame to monitor this case. I fixed our lads
case in around 7 days from memory, the remaining week was just the complete
recovery stage. It was perfectly obvious we were on top of it towards the
end of the first week of treatment.
Age related ...month or year to heal Good grief, she could be in for the
long haul with this case then. Her case is worse than the lads though so I
will have to monitor it for a while by the sound of things.
Thank You for the information, I really do appreciate it, and to reiterate,
all other input also. I just don't really want to go down any other path due
to not being in a position to point the finger at ONE thing that may have
fixed an issue. It will always be a question of - was it this that fixed it,
or was it that? I like to remove all doubt so I KNOW what worked without
having to question it g. Just my Neanderthal mindset.
She probly doesn't have a great surface area of issue {don't know, don't know
anything about Shingles} mainly two small areas on left side of back and
another larger area on left side of stomach just above belt line.
Today I sprayed the lower back area and also soaked the knickers at the site.
Not a great deal I can do with the stomach though, only spray the area and
soak the clothing at that site. All areas have been sprayed each day a few
times prior, but not the clothing.
If amount of lesions, or lesions apparent over a
Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
The problem is, that everyone is different: presenting with different needs, nutritional/mineral deficiencies, age, condition, so what works for one person isn't the one-size-fits-all rule. The Lyme community has had to learned this the hard way, and much trial and error is required for each person to discover what works. The problem with H. zoster, is that time IS important, as it can do irreparable harm to the nerves, so 'taking longer' isn't a luxury the sufferer can afford. One person wrote that a senior he knew finally committed suicide because of the unrelenting, incapacitating chronic pain of PHN. When I was in the middle of it, I feared that my life as I'd known it was over. Death looked appealing. Thank goodness the PHN retreated. Glad I did all I could, despite not knowing what specifically did the trick. I suspect everything contributed. And if it ever returns, I'll do it all again. Be well, Léna On Aug 22, 2013, at 4:35 AM, Neville Munn wrote: Don't misunderstand me or get me wrong, I'm not doing this for any selfish or egotistical reason, I'm not playing lab scientist here. EIS worked perfectly before and I'm confident it will work this time, just may take longer due to this case being a tad more severe. Apart from the suggestions already put forward there apparently is nothing in the mainstream arsenal that can help once Shingles is full blown. Either way if it works or not, or if it may be of interest to anyone else or not, I intend to inform here regardless, I'm just a little concerned regarding time frame before recovery is evident this time. N. Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:55:44 -0700 From: mgperra...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES Neville My mother had shingles. It nearly killed her. Dont mess around/experiment for your own curiosity. Do everything you can do as soon as possible. Post herpetic neuralgia is hell M On 8/21/2013 9:02 PM, Neville Munn wrote: Hi Melly,
CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
Neville, I take no offense if you want to prove CS will work on shingles. However, if you see those blisters coming around the other side of the body go take her to Emergency Room.that can be fatal. Raven, Yes, organic CHINESE (make sure Chinese) from www.mountainroseherbs.com I ought a pound, powderized it, added Vodka around two inches above it. Stir everyday, if you see the vodka has been absorbed, top it off again with two inches. After two months, strain. Put in dark glass jar. The remaining pulp, process as the first. Then strain and add the liquid to the first harvest. You will have enough star anise to last you a lifetime, I think. TAKE ONLY TWO drops in an ounce of eis; in more sever cases 4 drops in 2 ounces of eis. Melly When diet is wrong, medicine is of no use. When diet is correct, medicine is of no need. The best way to forget all your troubles is to wear tight shoes.
RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
I believe everyone would know by now that I don't communicate all that well via this forum medium so perhaps I'd better try a bit harder. I don't want to take over the List with my ramblings but there are a few things I'd like cleared up so it doesn't appear I'm dramatising or over stating anything. I think people may be getting a false impression with this case, I most certainly hope nothing I have said indicated a dramatic or severe case of Shingles. The *doctor* said it was a severe case...Going on what you people are saying I now have to question that word 'severe?'. It appears it is not remotely like severe to me...Does the doc know best??? How many cases has this doctor seen to make that statement regarding severity??? Not too many I would be thinking. (1) Our lad had it on the left side of his head, and went down by his ear to his neck, and shoulder too I think. The rash sort of covered that entire area. Now, he never busted out in blisters breaking the skin, only a handful, the rest seemed to heal from the inside, but he WAS in considerable pain. (2) My better half however has two small areas, perhaps about 3-4 inches in length and about 2 inches wide maybe, and one smaller area not worth mentioning almost in the middle of the back. The stomach area however is probly the size of an outstretched hand, with fingers together, like you would hold your hand up as a stop signal, might be a tad longer than a hand but that's near enough. Going on what everyone is saying here, this appears to not be anywhere close to a severe case as the doctor suggested. How is 'severity' defined? Is it the area the rash covers? Is it the number of blisters which break the skin over a given area? Is it the pain level? I do understand it may depend on an individual as to how severe it is but this appears to be a mild case, if I'm picking up on the correct vibes among you people here. It has to be said that although there is still some pain, there are MANY broken blisters on the stomach area which now have dried and scabbed. This in itself will cause pain, and could also give the impression of internal pain as the skin is constantly moving which will be causing those scabs to 'crack' if you get my drift. She is also coughing which aggravates it. Again I apologise for prolonging this dialogue about Shingles but I just wanted to try to explain a little more. I'm getting the impression that this is just an ordinary stock standard run of the mill case of Shingles, you know, a bit bad, but nothing too serious. I have taken in everything everyone has said here but my observations currently indicate she is doing pretty damn good my smile is a little bit bigger today. N. From: drumr...@stny.rr.com Subject: Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:24:16 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com The problem is, that everyone is different: presenting with different needs, nutritional/mineral deficiencies, age, condition, so what wor
