Chicken Pox
Hello List! I am responding to a post from August 1, It is rare but there are cases of people getting Chicken Pox more than once without any intervention of CS. I know because I had them at the age of 24 a couple of years ago, and this is what the doctor told me. So I would go ahead and use the CS to treat to make sure that things don't get out of hand. Be Well All, Candace __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Does anyone know where I could find a service to send out some e-mails at a reasonable price? I need to send 1000 of them. Thnx Candace
Dr. Bashing
Hello Everyone, I guess a doctor is like anything else, some are good and some are bad. I loved the post that said "What do they call the Dr. at the bottom of the class. DOCTOR! This sums it up. I think what it comes down to is common sense and knowledge. Of course, us being computer user/owners, we have access to all kinds of information on every subject. Especially medial information. If you are planning on having a surgical procedure, I recommend calling the Medical Society of the County or Parish the doctor practices. You can not get specific information but you can find out if and how many complaints and or law suites a doctor has had brought against him or her. Ask to speak with some of the other patients this doctor has treated or operated on. You have every right to know these things and ask questions. And now days there is no reason ever why your doctor should not or resists to video the surgery. Even if a doctor you trust refers you to another doctor, this does not mean much the doc may be a friend of your doc and talent is not part of the referral decision. I had a very serious problem from a situation like this. All it takes is one bad surgeon or treatment to change your life forever. Hopefully due to CS we will be avoiding these situations. Have A Great Day! Candace
Re: Lyme CS & Herxing
I was reading Debbie's post about tying the CS for her pain and potential Lyme. If it is Lyme the pain is going to get worse before it gets better. You should Herx within ten days of starting the CS if you are taking a sufficient quantity. You also do not want to miss doses and make sure to take three times per day to keep active CS entering the body. As far as the pain it gets worse and you get really sick, (HERX) but it is just the Bb dying off, a lot of strong toxins are released. It is not the CS making you sick it is the Lyme or what ever bug it might be that is being killed Candace -Original Message- From: Nancy B. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 7:20 AM Subject: Re: Testing CS/grapefruit seed extract >Debbie & others, > >-Original Message- >From: Debbie McDonald >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 11:19 PM >Subject: Re: Testing CS/grapefruit seed extract > > >> ... I did not log my symptoms so have no idea as I have >worse brain >>fog too, again, a major bad symptom that I am now >wondering if CS helped by >>killing whatever it was that is affecting my brain??. I >have not taken much >>since(CS) and so will start again on some store bought >(yuck) till I get up and >>running, husband is slow on this and I should think my >results will be very >>scientific if my pain goes away. > > >> Debbie McDonald >> >> mailto:lullw...@flash.net >> > >I was plateaued at about 90% better from Lyme disease as a >result of 26 months antibiotic treatment. After that I >started taking CS and continued to get another 5%+ better. >Wish I had started the CS sooner, but then I wouldn't have >known what was helping me. > >At the time I quit abx, I was still experiencing ear >buzzing, cognitive problems (memory loss, finger confusion >on the keyboard), constant aches in my feet & hands (no >swelling though), occasional bone pain (like a waxing/waning >tooth ache occurring at least weekly-- I imagined a little >spirochete drilling into a nerve ending!) and different >degrees of muscle/joint pain on and off. I also still had >some brain fog, but didn't realize it (thought it was just >me) as the abx had helped so much already. Something was >always present at any given time. > >But when I took CS, within days, I started feeling even >better. I was amazed to finally attain days on end without >the pain in my hands & feet, without a twinge of bone pain; >with no buzzing in my ears-- not even hissing! I finally >had days on end without cognitive challenges, and I was full >of energy and ideas, indicating brain fog I was unaware of >was lifting. > >I only experienced this sort of thing once on antibiotics; >at that time, I took a 3 week breather only for the symptoms >to return. > >I have faced the fact that I may always need a "maintenance >dose" of CS. Lyme disease is tough to totally get rid of. > >That's not my point, though. My point is that in my >experience, CS has helped tremendously to alleviate both >physical and neurological manifestations of Lyme disease. I >do think CS passes the blood brain barrier, unlike many >large antibiotics. Of course I can't prove this, but what >I've personally experienced tells me so. > >Thanks for clarifying about grapefruit (Vs grape) seed >extract too, Debbie. I for one didn't pick up on that till >you mentioned it in your post. > >Sincerely, >Nancy > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Good CS Products
Hello List, In response to which brands of CS are affective. I had wonderful results with Sta Young Colloidal Silver 10ppm particle size .001. This is what wiped out my Lyme Disease. I have read that Source Naturals does not contain as much silver as they claim. This was in Dr. Farbers book. I guess it is like anything else, some brands are superior to others. Candace -Original Message- From: Joyce Inouye To: M. G. Devour Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CS & Cystic Fibrosis >On 27 Jun 98 at 14:14, Joyce Inouye wrote: > >I think it would be a great idea to collect complementary information >and to start identifying the best silver on the market. This would >include complementary natural products which have proven to have a >high success rate for various diseased states (perhaps over 25% >success rate within 2 to 4 months??). > >If the site were a non-profit, then all money earned can go into >buying the products we advocate for those who are sick (since >insurance companies do not pay for natural cures.) People like Daemon >decide who needs the products most. > >We can create a form which would be easy to fill out--listing all the >critical information--brand name of silver, particulate size, >"diseases" silver is reported to be effective against, etc. This may >work if we can figure out a way to check the accuracy of the data, and >to check for variables such as nutritional supplements. > >For example, a friend had a horrible infection in her lower legs which >she contracted during a knee cap replacement in the hospital. For the >last 3 years or so, the doctors were not able to get rid of it. When I >gave her a noni cream to put on it, the leg began to heal quite >rapidly--the swelling went down and the black skin color lightened. >When her doctor saw her leg, he said, "It's a good cream." (meaning >the drug he had given her). My friend answered "Yes." I asked my >friend why hadn't she told the doctor the truth about the noni cream, >and she said "Because they get mad when I tell them." > >Is there any one out there with a lot of time who could help >coordinate such a project? We would need some technical people, some >medical people, some web page designers, perhaps a statistician, etc. > >:) Joyce > > >On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, M. G. Devour wrote: > >> Dameon is giving us some great insights into his treatment and >> experience. He's put together of a *lot* of different things which >> are helping him survive the disease. Thank you, sir! >> >> For the rest of us, I think we should try to become as well informed >> as we can, so we are able, like Dameon, to assemble a complement of >> tecniques to sustain our health or solve our health problems. CS is >> a useful component for such a regimen and a versitile tool. We need >> to continue to build our understanding of CS. That's what this >> group's for. >> >> > There seems to be an on-going debate about which silver is the >> > best. I know this: Concentration and penetration are key: If the >> > particles are smaller, they'll get into more places and be more >> > affective. >> >> The WaterOz product has obviously been effective for Dameon. When he >> first made contact with us, I was skeptical of it because of the >> high concentration claimed. This attitude comes from the baseless >> claims *some* vendors make, and simply *not* having the facilities to >> test and compare and categorize all the different products that are >> competing for our attention. >> >> I want to be able to *know* the particle size and concentration of a >> product, and have some way to objectively measure the effectiveness >> of a preparation. Without that, although we might know from Dameon's >> experience that WaterOz works, we won't know what *other* >> preparations might work, and most importantly, we won't know *why*. >> >> I'd like to resist the temptation to classify any one product as >> *best*, since different features are better in different situations. >> For some, cost might be more critical than a certain degree of >> effectiveness, particularly when dealing with less demanding >> conditions. For others, cost is no object. Then we've got folks for >> whom do-it-yourself is essential, like Cisco's folks out in Guam. >> What all have in common is the need to know that what they buy or >> make is safe and effective enough to produce results. >> >> Ultimately, I'd like us to be able to classify the various CS >> preparations, equipment, and methods by valid measures and >> properties. Then we could examine any new technique or product and be >> able to say, with reasonable certainty, whether or not it will work >> for its intended use. >> >> Then people will have the *most* options, because they will discover >> that a lot of different products work, and be able to avoid the ones >> that won't, and be able to tell the difference. >> >> > I hope all this makes it clear why I view this brand of silver >> > water so i
Re: silver-digest Digest V98 #180
I don't think there is any way that the CS is selective in which bacteria it kills. The fact of the matter is that it is all smothered, deprived of oxygen and destroyed. Candace -Original Message- From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 7:49 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V98 #180 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS - colon bacteria
Yes, about a month ago a man sent a stoole sample to a lab to evaluate the amount of CS in his stoole compared to the amounts he was taking. He said that the levels were similar in ppm. The CS goes everywhere in the body so replace your good bacteria, it is good for you anyway! Candace -Original Message- From: bjs1779 To: pand...@netmender.net Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 2:29 PM Subject: Re: CS - colon bacteria >Paul Andree wrote: >> >> robert.we...@ny.ubs.com wrote: >> > >> > >Dan wrote: >> > >I heard a guy on the radio talking about how his IONIC silver was better >> > >than any colloidal silver.One drawback of IONIC that he did "fess up to was >> > >that helpful bacteria in the gut would be wiped out. >> > >> > Folks, I'm starting to get more and more confused. I need to get some >> > straight-forward, hard science that is verifiable and repeatable with >> > regards to the effects of CS on different bacteria. >> > >> > Help me out here folks. >> > >> > Bob Wells >> > --- >> >> Hi Bob and List, >> >> Just a thought here on this. >> If CS is completely absorbed from the stomach, then it will never reach >> the colon. >> It would seem that the good bacteria, and/or the bad bacteria will not >> be affected by the CS. >> I don't know that this is fact, as I am surmising. >> Does anyone have thoughts or info on this? >> >> Thanks, >> Paul Andree >> Eustis, Lake Co, FloridaAOL Instant Messenger = andreepaul > >Someone on this list reported that he had his stool tested and it >contained CS. I think he said it contained a similar about to that >which he had been taking. > bjs > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS Experiments on bacteria, yogurt, milk, etc
Hello List! It seems to me that CS gets into the entire body. It even kills off the good bacteria in the body. I had Lyme Disease, this invades the entire body. Muscles, brain, eyes, all major organs etc. everything. I have eliminated the Lyme from my body with very large quantities of CS. Had it not killed what Bb was in my digestive tract and or major organs I would not have achieved wellness. The digestive tract is the first part of the body to receive the CS. I don't see how it would possible to bypass the bowels and colon. It kills all bacteria is my understanding, as well as normal or good bacteria within the body. I have replaced the bacteria with Acidophilus. You must not take it within three hours of taking the CS, if you do it will be destroyed. Quantity must be considered depending on what you are trying to accomplish with CS. It is important for maximum absorption to hold the CS sublingually for one minute before swallowing. Be Well, Candace -Original Message- From: Arnie Farber To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: ARNIE FARBER Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 2:09 AM Subject: Re: CS Experiments on bacteria, yogurt, milk, etc >robert.we...@ny.ubs.com wrote: >> >> >Dan wrote: >> >I heard a guy on the radio talking about how his IONIC silver was better >> >than any colloidal silver.One drawback of IONIC that he did "fess up to wa >> s >> >that helpful bacteria in the gut would be wiped out. >> >> Folks, I'm starting to get more and more confused. I need to get some >> straight-forward, hard science that is verifiable and repeatable with >> regards to the effects of CS on different bacteria. Jim Einert has been >> doing some testing with yogurt and has reported that good bacteria seems to >> thrive with CS. Upon questioning, however, he admits that he's not sure >> how to distinguish between good bacteria and bad bacteria. There seems to >> be an assumption that if the organisms come from yogurt, they must be good >> bacteria. Perhaps, but I'm not sure. There have been threads about CS >> changing bad bacteria into good bacteria. Some people (apparently Dan >> among them) think that CS kills good AND bad bacteria. In fact, that is >> why some of you believe that you need to take acidophilous when you are >> taking CS (acidophilous replaces good bacteria after something else wipes >> them out). Others believe that CS has not affected the good bacteria at >> all. So which is it? They can't all be right, or am I missing something. >> This is starting to feel like a religious discussion rather than a >> scientific one. Anecdotal evidence is great to help us know which things >> seem to work and which don't. But then we need to scientifically test our >> hypotheses. Those of you who feel far better on CS than off of it, or who >> feel it has virtually cured Lyme or one of the many other diseases that >> come from bacteria, add great value, while possibly taking some personal >> risk. Many of you feel that CS has solved significant medical problems. >> The bottom line, however is that we need to understand 1) under what >> circumstances CS seems to work, 2) what it cannot do, and 3) how it works. >> Science would demand of us that we take the anecdotal tests and create >> hypotheses (so far this list group has generated plenty of anecdotal >> evidence and plenty of hypotheses, so we're doing good). Then we need to >> rigorously test the hypotheses to see if we can prove them. Rigorous tests >> of the anecdotal reports should allow us to better understand CS. We need >> to move it into the realm of science (definable and repeatable tests that >> consistently show the same results). At first I thought CS was >> bactericidal. Then there is this debate about how it affects good and bad >> bacteria. Then there is the suggestion that it kills all single cell >> organisms, including viruses, etc. Perhaps there is no research money >> available for testing CS, but I can't believe that the basic principles are >> that hard to verify. If CS kills bacteria (even if only one kind) I should >> be able to take that bacteria, add CS and see it die off while seeing no >> change in a baseline test where the only difference was the CS. If it >> changes bad bacteria into good bacteria, I should be able to see a change >> in my test sample that makes this effect clear. If it kills bad bacteria >> and strengthens good bacteria, I should be able to take some of each of >> those and test them under rigorous conditions. Ceteris Paribas (keep >> everything constant and change just one variable) and all that. Do we have >> people on this list who have done the testing and can tell me what I need >> to do to reproduce the tests personally? I don't have a scientific >> background, but I can think and I can learn. I just need to be pointed in >> the right direction. What do I need in the way of a microscope to do this >> kind of testing? How much will I have to spend? Does anyone know? I'm >
Re: HPV
To Date HPV is incurable, like the herpes virus. If anything can kill the HPV it would be CS, at the least keep it very suppressed. I no longer get cold sores due to taking CS. And it killed my Lyme disease. HPV is the virus that causes Cervical Cancer, it is extremely common, 80% to 90% of the population is infected. Many have HPV for years, it is silent until you get a abnormal pap smear, or some sort of lesion. And at the later stages can be painful for women. Candace -Original Message- From: tosca...@ix.netcom.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 8:59 PM Subject: HPV >Does anyone know if CS or even colloidal gold would help with killing HPV, or human papillomavirus? Any facts, ideas, or anecdotes (positive or negative) are appreciated. Tahnk you. > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re:
Hello List!
I too, never got a rash or saw a tick. However I did receive a multitude of
bug bites while in Texas, which is where my nightmare with Lyme began. I
was on antibiotics for six months, I.V. and orals simultaneously. I did feel
a little better from the antibiotics but was far from well. Just before I
was to stop the antibiotic regimen, scared to death to stop, knowing that
the Lyme would just knock me right back down again. I was praying to find
an answer to my dilemma. And one day on the Lyme NG I saw mentioned CS, then
thanks to a member of this list Marsha Hallett who gave me the confidence to
use the CS to treat my Lyme. It worked magnificently, I was extremely ill
from the Herx for three months straight. However I took very high doses of
CS for five months to make certain that the Lyme was truly gone, and it was
and still is. I finished the CS in October and today I am healthy and
feeling great!
I was extremely ill for three years before I was finally properly diagnosed.
I was originally told I had MS due to some neurological symptoms that were
brought on by the Lyme. If they were not mis diagnosing me the docs would at
times would look at me strange when I would real off all of the symptoms I
was experiencing. Anyway, for those of you who suffer from Lyme there is
hope with CS. I am going to list the dosing guidelines that I used to treat
my Lyme with CS.
DOSAGE Must Coincide With Body Weight
The initial 1st (first) week dosage in all cases should only be 1/2
(one-half) teaspoon only once (1) a day in the morning as the Colloidal
Silver at 30 ppm (THIRTY) is so effective that if you start the therapeutic
dosage of more than 1/2 (one-half) teaspoon per 1 (one) day you may put
yourself into bed with a severe herxheimer or Candida reaction from all the
dead bacteria piling up waiting to be expelled from your bloodstream.
Thereafter your dosage of Colloidal Silver "absolutely must" correspond to
your body weight for the protocol to be successful as CS is allopathic-the
more you take the buffer it works and conversely the less you take for your
body weight the less it will be able to do for you. Again: The dosage can be
more but not less than that required for your body weight for it to work
and for to be successful.
The dosage baseline of {4} (four) teaspoons (20 ml.) morning immediately
upon arising l (one) hour before breakfast, and 4 (four) teaspoons (20 ml.)
evening 2 (two) hours after supper, is based on an average infection for a
120 (one hundred and twenty) pound individual.
The dosage also must be tailored to the severity of the infection. which
means you must increase the dosage (after you have adjusted the initial
dosage to your weight), if you have had a chronic, severe, or long term
infection.
It is crucial that:
Your starting-beginning baseline dosage ("before" you tailor dosage to your
symptomatology) must correspond to your body weight. This means the baseline
dosage must be increased a minimum of 1 (one) teaspoon (5 ml.) every time
you take a dosage, to accommodate every 30 (thirty) pound increment in body
weight.
For example: A 210 lb. individual must increase their baseline dosage to 7
(seven) teaspoons (3i ml.) in the morning and 7 (seven) teaspoons (35 ml.)
in the evening.
The following outline is the basic initial dosage reference:
120 lb. man, woman or child = 4 (four) tsps. morning and 4 (four) tsps.
evening.
150 lb. = 5 (five) tsps. morning and 5 (five) tsps. evening.
180 lb. = 6 (six) tsps. morning and 6 (six) tsps. evening.
210 lb. = 7 (seven) tsps. morning and 7 (seven) tsps. evening.
Just to confirm:
A 60 (seventy) lb. child would respectively require a dosage of 2 (two)
teaspoons [10] (ten) ml. in the morning and 2 (two) teaspoons [10] (ten)
ml.1 in the evening.
respective dosage you then stay at that dosage until you ameliorate all of
your symptomatology. If because of the severity or the chronic state of your
infection you plateau and have a stubborn symptom that you cannot knock out
at this dosage-then increase your dosage by I (one) teaspoon additional in
the morning and 1 (one) teaspoon additional in the evening for 2 (two)
weeks.
This should make a big difference to your recovery. If not yet, increase the
dosage "again" by another l (one) teaspoon in the morning and I (one)
teaspoon in the evening for the following two weeks and stay on the
respective additional dosage until you do ameliorate that symptom.
The key is that you increase and tailor the dosage to the point whereby you
aggressively knock out any remaining symptoms that are attributable and due
to the current active Borrelia Burgdorferi infection. You must treat until
all "active" symptoms are gone-so you are basically asymptomatic, as this is
your main guideline to know how much to, and how long to treat.
N.B. The spirochetes re-cycle every 30 (thirty) days if there are any
remaining in your body. This means that some sensitive individuals will
notice a flare up of the
Re: silver-digest Digest V98 #170
This is the CS Dosage By Body Weight I used to Beat Lyme Disease... This is a regualr word 97 doc Be Well Candace From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, June 20, 1998 3:35 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V98 #170 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
