Re: CS>Plantar Warts - remove with banana peel
I know that vitamin E will remove them. Buy some Vit E capsules and squeeze them onto a cloth and apply the cloth to the affected area, repeat daily with fresh Vit E, they will get rather tender, but after a few days they will be able to be scratched out. My brother in law had them on the soles of his feet and could hardly walk, so he tried the Vit E treatment and in a few day he could remove them with a light scratch of his finger nail. He was amazed, having endured freezing, operations, but they kept coming back. He said they left conical holes in his feet, but they healed out. John in Australia - Original Message - From: Faith Saint Francis To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:46 AM Subject: RE: CS>Plantar Warts - remove with banana peel I have not tried this yet, but it was a serious message: Cut off a piece of banaa-peel, big enough to cover the wart. Put in on the wart with a cute-ex. I'd say remove next day and repeat. It's easy costless, and wort a try. FaithStFrancis
Re: CS>thick toenails
I used to have a lot of toenail trouble caused by a fungal infection, I had lost most of my big toe nails, plus others were badly infected but now I am free of it! After taking meds (didn't work), painting on the nails (didn't work) I tried another approach and after buying enough silver sox to allow me a fresh change each day, I am now totally free of any foot related fungus, totally gone! As I am in Australia I bought them from a local company via the internet, they weren't cheap cost me $25 a pair, but it was worth it. Another surprising benefit is that for the first time in many, many years I am free of foot odour too! And my wife can tell you it was bad! If you want the web address of the company selling the sox, email me at hr...@bigpond.net.au Please note remove the underscore ( _ ) between the e and @ to contact me if you copy the email address as I have written it it won't work. Spam is a terrible thing! I do not have any commercial interest in this company, just a happy customer! John in Australia - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: CS>thick toenails Have heard this is caused by fungus. Painting Lugol's over the nail, under and around it, even over the whole toe--a few times will probably kill it off. However, fungus is very hard to get rid of forever, so you may have to do this for a little while. If you add some DMSO to it this will take it in further and better, but lugol's will work by itself. On my own right foot, the whole toe sometimes aches and the big joint where the toe joins the foot also hurts sometimes. I have painted the whole area with Lugol's and added some DMSO on a q-tip a couple of times and it sure isnt aching now. In fact, what seemed like a young bunion is now smaller and not 'hurty' at all. Good for Lugol's!!!best wishes, pj
CS>RE:Colloidal Gold Generators
I know its been discussed before, but can anyone give me info on CG generators? Voltage? Current? Pure gold source? Thanks John in Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Alternative/Standby Power Systems
Hi Brooks & List Members, We ran a GM 6-71 (which is the 6 cylinder version of the 2-71 coupled to a 250 KVA Delco alternator for years it never faltered. It was second hand when we bought it and had a total of 35,000 hours on it when we sold it. We needed a large alternator to supply our power needs (a 24 hour truckstop) As a retired diesel engineer, I can tell you the 2 stroke GM diesel are renown for their longevity, provided one changed the engine oil regularly along with the fuel and air filter. John in Australia - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: Silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: CS>Alternative/Standby Power Systems First a little story: Back in the 1970's I was the southern division running maintenance manager for AMTRAK. Our Diners, high-level sleepers and high-level chair cars were powered by! Detroit Diesel 2-71 Generator Sets (20KW constant output capacity). These self-contained units were used throughout the fleet, as they had been earlierby Santa Fe, Burlington Northern, etc. They suffered every kind of abuse imaginableespecially from poorly-performed maintenance..and they just kept going. We ran some of them over 60,000 total hours before even rendering a top-end over-haul. Some of these engines were in consists (system train units) that covered over 1,000,000 milesbetween overhauls. Bottom linethese systems are TOUGH. Much moreso than systems presently being manufactured. I do not know, personally, any of the people at the business where I located these 2-71- powered systems-but I certainly do know this 2-71 based Diesel/Electric System. These units, because of their peculiar postive-displacement plunger-type injector pumps can even run off of warm PURE VEGETABLE or waste oil.
Re: CS>athlete's foot
No thanks, I used to truck sheep and cattle all over eastern Australia, and that was enough for me!!! Used to come home smelling like a cattle yard! Silver sox also wipes out foot odour problems too! John in Australia - Original Message - From: "Vigilius Haufniensis" To: Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:30 AM Subject: Re: CS>athlete's foot : soak your feet in your urine. : : : : : - Original Message ----- : From: "John McLean" : To: : Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:42 PM : Subject: Re: CS>athlete's foot : : : > Hello all, : > I cured mine, and it was a bad case, by wearing silver sox! : > I even had fungal nail infections as well, and they are now almost gone, : > took about 6 months. : > Happy Christmas to all! : > John in Australia : > - Original Message - : > From: "bs clayton" : > To: : > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:27 AM : > Subject: CS>athlete's foot : > : > : > : Barb, : > : : > : try using white vinegar on a cotton ball. This has : > : cured my husbands very bad case, and I heard it from : > : other people using it. WHite vinegar is an excellent : > : topical antifungal. : > : : > : You can also use CS, if you have any- I have not tried : > : it for that, but it should work. : > : : > : Kathryn : > : : > : __ : > : Do You Yahoo!? : > : Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around : > : http://mail.yahoo.com : > : : > : : > : -- : > : The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. : > : : > : Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org : > : : > : To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com : > : : > : Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com : > : : > : The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... : > : : > : List maintainer: Mike Devour : > : : > : : > : > : > : > -- : > No virus found in this incoming message. : > Checked by AVG Free Edition. : > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: : > 12/20/2006 : > : > :
Re: CS>athlete's foot
Hello all, I cured mine, and it was a bad case, by wearing silver sox! I even had fungal nail infections as well, and they are now almost gone, took about 6 months. Happy Christmas to all! John in Australia - Original Message - From: "bs clayton" To: Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:27 AM Subject: CS>athlete's foot : Barb, : : try using white vinegar on a cotton ball. This has : cured my husbands very bad case, and I heard it from : other people using it. WHite vinegar is an excellent : topical antifungal. : : You can also use CS, if you have any- I have not tried : it for that, but it should work. : : Kathryn : : __ : Do You Yahoo!? : Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around : http://mail.yahoo.com : : : -- : The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. : : Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org : : To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com : : Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com : : The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... : : List maintainer: Mike Devour : :
Re: CS>Irritating CS
Well no, I have to disagree with you with regard to the taste, the CS I produce using a current controlled generator is colourless, but with quite a strong metallic after taste. Using a Hanna TDS meter it gives a reading of 20uS. Using a HM Digital TDS-4 meter its around 12-15 ppm. I have found that if you can't taste it, its very weak. John in Australia - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" To: Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: CS>Irritating CS : True CS/ionic silver should be clear,tasteless. : > : > : > : > Pat : > : > : > : : > : > : > -- : > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing : > Colloidal Silver. : > : > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: : > http://silverlist.org : > : > To post, address your message to: : > silver-list@eskimo.com : > : > Address Off-Topic messages to: : > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com : > : > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are : > currently down... : > : > List maintainer: Mike Devour : > : > : > : : : __ : Do You Yahoo!? : Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around : http://mail.yahoo.com :
Re: CS>Characterizing Carlos' CS - slightly off topic!
Smile, Carlos does very well, my only language is English, oh if you add "Strine" (slang for Australian) I speak two!!! So I envy Carlos as he is multilingual!! John in Australia - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:57 AM Subject: Re: CS>Characterizing Carlos' CS :I just love the way people who's primary language is not english express : themselves. : : Marshall : : "Carlos Pérez" wrote: : : > Dear Dan, : > : > It was a very special surprise you gave me tonight. I am proud of having : > assimilated in a few weeks the teachings that you my friends have given me : > so far, to the point of having a product twice as good as I thought I had! : > : > I expected I would reach this point in around two weeks, after we made our : > new generator with current control from the diagram my friend John McLean : > sent me. : > : > Tonight I will sleep with a smile in my face! : > : > Thank you very much. : > : > Carlos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FW: CS>AG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug
But if the CS is made correctly, you aren't applying silver salts to your skin. Am I correct? John in Australia - Original Message - From: "Sandee George" To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: CS>FW: CS>AG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water - Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver bandages
You will find that silver is making a resurgence, silver socks are available here in Australia and the USA too I believe, as are bandaids impregnated with silver, the US Army supplies all its field staff with silver impregnated socks, Defence forces field dressings are now all impregnated with silver, I believe Samsung is about to release a refrigerator which has silver impregnated in its lining, one can buy silver impregnated food storage boxes, and it goes on. I spoke to my Dr the other day and he had never heard of silver as an antibacterial agent!!! I showed him my silver socks, and the condition of my feet which are clear and healthy, no sign of the dreaded tinea which was a continual curse for me, he looked it up on the internet and he was amazed!!! John in Australia - Original Message - From: sickleave48...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: CS>Silver bandages Just bought 2 boxes of bandages with silver on pads, bought them at dollar store. It says on box acts as a natural antibacterial. I am surprised the FDA allows them to put that on box. 25 assorted count in box, made in Egypt. SICK LEAVE, Bob
Re: CS>Silver in socks
Hello All! I bought some silver socks from a supplier in Australia, you look them up here: http://www.silverwear.com.au/ They claim they are using a 99.9% silver thread in the manufacture of them. All I know is that I bought enough to wear 7 days per week, and my foot odour problems and tinea are now a thing of the past!! I can take my shoes off in public without any worry I am so pleased with them and can recommend them 100% John in Australia - Original Message - From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: CS>Silver in socks Hi BobI use cs for deoderant as well just mist it ondebbie -- Original message -- From: sickleave48...@aol.com After some one mentioned the silver socks, I looked them up. Not sure how they do it. Is there any silver thread pure enough to sew in socks out there. They did say the they would last 50 washes. I wonder if they are soaking them is a solution of some kind. when ever I looked they were out of big sizes. I have often thought about spraying CS on socks and let it dry. I wonder if you would want a higher PPM count or use the stuff you drink, like 5 PPM. It might depend on how your feet are. I am looking to find some silver thread that would work on sewing in clothes. Any ideas let me here them, I would like to try this out. I wonder how or what kind of silver string it would take to sew in clothes. Bob
Re: CS>Silver product
William, I have bought some Silver Socks, which have an actual very fine silver thread woven in with the fabric. I have been wearing them for 4 months now, and foot odour and tinea are a thing of the past. Even the fungal infection under the toe nails is slowly disappearing!! I can even take my shoes off in public without a worry. One only has to look around and now there are Band-Aids now impregnated with silver, burn dressings, and more. It appears that silver has been rediscovered. I have some lively discussions with a family member who is a Doctor, he still isn't convinced! John in Australia - Original Message - From: "William Missett" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 3:33 AM Subject: CS>Silver product Yet another mainstream silver product: My wife has just purchased, through the mainstream Sharper Image, a "Fresher Longer Miracle Food Storage" unit which contains 12 refrigerator storage containers constructed of plastic impregnated with "nanoparticles of silver." They "reduce spoilage, reduce mold & fungus," are "naturally anti-germ anti-mold, anti-fungus," which reduce the growth of "microorganisms" by "over 98 percent." If Sharper Image is selling this stuff, it's proof positive that silver really works as a germ/bacteria fighter, regardless of what the FDA says or doesn't say. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic - heat
M well all I can say is that Dad used to own 600 beehives, he always maintained that if your honey candied it wasn't, but he isn't alive now for me to ask him. I do remember that he always used to extract the honey when it was below a 20% moisture content, how he measured it I don't know. John - Original Message - From: "Gunar" To: Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 4:24 PM Subject: Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic - heat - Original Message - From: "John McLean" To: Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic - heat An other thing, I remember was that if honey "candied" it was impure honey, and I can't remember what caused it to "candy". It appears that pure honey will mainintain its liquid form for years. John in Australia Hello John -- sorry, but you are mistaken about "candied" honey being impure: ... just the opposite is true; "candied" or crystalised honey occurs when the honey is raw, that is, when the honey has NOT been subjected to high enough temperature in processing it. Manuka honey is a perfect example of raw honey, which is crystalised. Honey which remains runny, or "liquid", has had its enzymes destroyed by heat during processing, and so has lost much of its health and medicinal value. Regards, Gunar in Sydney. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic - heat
An other thing, I remember was that if honey "candied" it was impure honey, and I can't remember what caused it to "candy". It appears that pure honey will mainintain its liquid form for years. John in Australia - Original Message - From: "Dennis Gulenchin" To: Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic - heat Buckwheat honey seems to stay liquid for a long time. I still have some left in a jar that I bought more than a year ago that is still liquid. It is not refrigerated although the HFS where I bought it kept it in a cooler. Dennis John McLean wrote: From memory again, "runny honey" can mean too much moisture in it, but having said that, some varieties of plants do produce a less viscous honey, we have a eucalypt tree over here and its called Yellow Box, the honey off that particular tree I remember Dad would almost kill for, and it was very stiff when cold. John - Original Message - From: "Rowena" To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic - heat I was told the other day that all the honey you get in the supermarket is pasteurized, unless you get something labelled "raw" honey. Happily for me I am able from time to time to get some honey direct from the producer. The heated honey tends not to solidify, so if I'm somewhere buying supposedly unprocessed honey and I notice one is "turning" solid, I tend to go for that as an indication that it has not been overheated. Gently warming to get it flowing to put in pots is different. Rowena Dad was a fanatic regarding the production of honey, he never heated it above a certain temperature, if overheated it would destroy the enzymes in it, and the exact figure I can't remember, but he could look at honey and tell you whether it had been overheated. John in Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic - heat
From memory again, "runny honey" can mean too much moisture in it, but having said that, some varieties of plants do produce a less viscous honey, we have a eucalypt tree over here and its called Yellow Box, the honey off that particular tree I remember Dad would almost kill for, and it was very stiff when cold. John - Original Message - From: "Rowena" To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic - heat I was told the other day that all the honey you get in the supermarket is pasteurized, unless you get something labelled "raw" honey. Happily for me I am able from time to time to get some honey direct from the producer. The heated honey tends not to solidify, so if I'm somewhere buying supposedly unprocessed honey and I notice one is "turning" solid, I tend to go for that as an indication that it has not been overheated. Gently warming to get it flowing to put in pots is different. Rowena Dad was a fanatic regarding the production of honey, he never heated it above a certain temperature, if overheated it would destroy the enzymes in it, and the exact figure I can't remember, but he could look at honey and tell you whether it had been overheated. John in Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic
Jim, my Dad was a commercial Apiarist from 1945 to 1960, (bee keeper) and he was at the forefront of honey production, and he said that inconjunction with the CSIRO (an Australian Govt research body), all honey had the same enzymes which were the ones that acted like an antibiotic. When he saw the price per kilogram that was being charged for the so-called Medical honey, he would shake his head. Dad was a fanatic regarding the production of honey, he never heated it above a certain temperature, if overheated it would destroy the enzymes in it, and the exact figure I can't remember, but he could look at honey and tell you whether it had been overheated. John in Australia - Original Message - From: "Jim Holmes" To: Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: RE: CS>Honey as an antibiotic I was under the impression that all honey has this property. Is that not true? Jim -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Honey as an antibiotic http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10390675 UK hospital uses manuka honey to fight superbug Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Honey as an antibiotic
I know that over here in Australia, the Australian Aborigines in the bush, used wild honey direct on their wounds. They knew of its healing abilities centuries ago! John in Australia - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:29 AM Subject: CS>Honey as an antibiotic http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10390675 UK hospital uses manuka honey to fight superbug Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bob Berger's CS Research
I bought one from Bob, anyone wants my copy let me know, I will post to them. John in Australia - Original Message - From: "Jonathan B. Britten" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: CS>Bob Berger's CS Research If memory serves me, Mr. Berger completed a book about EIS shortly before his death, and was offering it for a fee to ten dollars. I neglected to get a copy. This is not a worry for me personally, but I can't help but wonder whether Mr. Berger made any plans to have his book stay in circulation. It might be a kindness of some members who knew him to inquire about this. Many men and women hope that their work will outlive them; perhaps Mr. Berger was hoping his book would stay in print, either in paper or online. I do not know his family and would not feel comfortable inquiring. Perhaps someone else is in a position to do so. Just a thought. . . JBB On Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006, at 22:48 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: Dear Silver-list Group, What a great loss to each of "us seekers" who are experimenting together with Colloidal Silver and other Alternative medical treatments. Ole Bob ranked among the great on the peak of this fine Site and I looked forward to his wisdom that he shared so graciously in helping others with their problems. Thanks to "Ole Bob" and the many others who reach out with wisdom to help each seeker with their problems! He'll be greatly missed! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Bob Berger has passed away My sincere condolences to the family of "Ole Bob" Berger. I always enjoyed his wisdom on this board and although I never knew the man I always felt he was someone to be listened to and respected. He will be sorely missed. May he rest in peace. Bob Banever - Original Message - From: "Rich Adams" To: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: Re: CS>Bob Berger has passed away http://www.legacy.com/KansasCity/ DeathNotices.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=18 209120 Rest In Peace my friend. Rich Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>wide anode and narrow cathode brew
No Bob, there is little or no waste in agglomeration, and the current flow starts of at 8mA and as the conductivity increases so does the current flow, and I have limited that to 40mA If I had the time I could plot the whole scenario, until I retire I simply haven't the time to check it out with the running of my own business taking a huge chunk out of my day!! I would like to know what the signs are of a "large amount of silver wasted in agglomeration"? Regards, John - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:50 AM Subject: Re: CS>wide anode and narrow cathode brew The question is did John plot the current and conductance during the 8 hour run? If not then there probably is a large amount of silver wasted in agglomeration. "Ole Bob" ?. Sounds like you have developed a great system. One question I have is that initially you used 100ma at 8 hours to get 5 gallons of 25uS CS, later you used 40ma at 5.5 hours to get 5 gallons of 28us CS (about the same conduction reading, but the second condition is taking less time and current). What do you attribute that to? Perhaps Bob (or anyone else) can comment too. Dan HRBE wrote: > Dan, > I always use a current controlled power supply, Bob controls the current > by limiting the size of the cathode. > I couldn't sit and baby-sit the process as I do have other pressing > things to do! > I ended up increasing my brass cathode area to the same surface area of > the anode, controlling the current to 40milliamps at 30 volts DC. > Is your power supply current limited? > I end up with 5 gallons of perfectly clear CS giving me a reading of > 28uS/cm on my Hanna PWT in 5 1/2 hours. > > My 2 cents worth! > John in Australia > > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Nave" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:34 PM > Subject: CS>wide anode and narrow cathode brew > > >> Ole Bob you are a genius! >> >> I finally got a larger piece (20 gage sheet - 3 ounces) of silver ($70 >> ;-( and my own cheap Harbor Freight Tools current meter ($5.00 ;-) and >> tried out my first cell with the wide anode and narrow cathode. The >> sheet anode is 6" x 3" and the cathode was a piece of 12 gage copper >> wire about 6" long. I had 5.5 inches of the anode in the distilled >> water. Incidentally, I made 32 ounces, 1 quart, and the bottle was way >> too small for the anode but I made it anyway. I brewed it for 1.25 >> hours and stopped with the current at 13.25 ma (@33.8 VDC). This >> comes out to about 6.625 ma for 1 hour if you average it out roughly. >> Rule of thumb calculation gives about 28 ppm liberated silver, and PWT >> says 27.8 uS. I normally get about 22uS. The current line on the >> graph was still going straight (not bending to the right) but I >> stopped it anyway because of the PWT reading. There was some dark >> buildup on the cathode and it turned silver from plating, but the >> residue didn't seem excessive compared to the 1 ma current controlled >> same size anode/cathode system I usually use. The Tyndall was very >> minimal, can't see it in normal light and appears about 1/4 >> (subjectively) of what I normally get. This has a slight tint to it. >> >> I know that this first attempt was very sloppy, but I was surprised at >> the speed of the brew, the high PWT reading, and the low Tyndall. >> >> Dan >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006 >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/336 - Release Date: 5/10/2006
Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS
Dennis, I did check with the manufacturer, and they have assured me that the towelling I am using hasn't been bleached with chlorine. John - Original Message - From: Dennis Gulenchin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS John, I'd be hesitant to use paper towel in a liquid made for drinking as paper bleached with chlorine creates dangerous toxins such as dioxins. Maybe a better choice would be to use unbleached coffee filter paper. Dennis John McLean wrote: The brass plate is the cathode, so it isn't sacrificial, and no the paper towelling, the type used in the kitchen, will not affect it. I soaked them for 5 days in distilled water to see what would happen, and the paper stayed intact, and checking the TDS reading, made no difference at all John .- Original Message - From: Carol Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS wow. Why the brass plate. Why wouldn't the paper towel contaminate the solution. HRBE wrote: I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS. I have come up with the following setup. 1 x 5 gallon (imperial) fish tank 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate 1 x 36 square inches brass plate. 1 x aquarium water pump 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation. I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper towel to prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the current to 100ma. By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe the plate clean. 8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which reads 25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter. I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit" the process I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am building 45 volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew process time. Hope this is of interest to the group John McLean Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. -- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS
Right Mike, thanks for the defence!! You are correct, see my previous post!!! John - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS TJ, I interpret John's post to mean a 36 square inch plate of 99.99% pure silver. (Maybe a 6 x 6 inch piece of sheet stock?) So I wouldn't worry about him if I were you. You're correct, of course, not to use "silver plate" -- ie something that has been *plated* with silver. That's almost always not a pure alloy, but rather Sterling or similar, that has significant nickel or other components that are toxic. Plus, there's the chance of wearing through to the base-metal, which could be anything... So, use a plate of pure silver if you want, but not something that's *plated* with silver! Be well, Mike D. Interesting -- but I'm a little hesitant to use silver plate instead of pure silver. How are you able to tell whether you are dissolving the substrate? If you feel safe with your sheet-I just bought 25 lb. roll of brand new sterling foil -92.5 Ag/7.5 Cu for scrap-16" wide It is as thick as heavy aluminum foil. I am trying to find a use for it. TJ - Original Message - From: "HRBE" To: Subject: CS>Re: Bulk CS > I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS. > > I have come up with the following setup. > > 1 x 5 gallon (imperial) fish tank > 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate > 1 x 36 square inches brass plate. > 1 x aquarium water pump > 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS
Sorry I mislead you, it is 99.99% pure solid silver in plate form, 3 mm thick, not PLATED SILVER. I figured if Bob Berger used a brass cathode in a rod form, the brass plate the same area as the silver anode would make the CS faster and it did. John - Original Message - From: "T J Garland" To: Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:40 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS Interesting -- but I'm a little hesitant to use silver plate instead of pure silver. How are you able to tell whether you are dissolving the substrate? If you feel safe with your sheet-I just bought 25 lb. roll of brand new sterling foil -92.5 Ag/7.5 Cu for scrap-16" wide It is as thick as heavy aluminum foil. I am trying to find a use for it. TJ Garland Noble Metals, Inc. - Original Message - From: "HRBE" To: Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: CS>Re: Bulk CS I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS. I have come up with the following setup. 1 x 5 gallon (imperial) fish tank 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate 1 x 36 square inches brass plate. 1 x aquarium water pump 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation. I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper towel to prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the current to 100ma. By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe the plate clean. 8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which reads 25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter. I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit" the process I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am building 45 volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew process time. Hope this is of interest to the group John McLean Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS
The brass plate is the cathode, so it isn't sacrificial, and no the paper towelling, the type used in the kitchen, will not affect it. I soaked them for 5 days in distilled water to see what would happen, and the paper stayed intact, and checking the TDS reading, made no difference at all John .- Original Message - From: Carol Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bulk CS wow. Why the brass plate. Why wouldn't the paper towel contaminate the solution. HRBE wrote: I have been doing some experimenting with making bulk CS. I have come up with the following setup. 1 x 5 gallon (imperial) fish tank 1 x 36 square inches 99.99% silver plate 1 x 36 square inches brass plate. 1 x aquarium water pump 1 x 30volt DC power supply, with adjustable current regulation. I spaced the plates @ 3 inches, I wrapped the brass plate in paper towel to prevent the gunge from being circulated in the water. I limited the current to 100ma. By wrapping the brass plate in paper towelling I don't need to wipe the plate clean. 8 hours later, I have 5 gals of perfectly clear CS solution, which reads 25uS on my Hanna HI98308 TDS meter. I used current control because I didn't have the time to "babysit" the process I used Bob Berger's book as a guide for construction and I am building 45 volt dc current regulated power supply to try to shorten the brew process time. Hope this is of interest to the group John McLean Australia -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. -- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
Re: CS>Using Honey for wounds
On the subject "honey for wounds", the Australian Aborigines used wild honey on their wounds my mother used honey on a particularly bad leg infection, and it cured it. There is a "Medical Honey" sold here in Australia, but as my dad used to be a commercial beekeeper, he used to laugh at that idea as he said that all honey is suitable, as long as it was extracted properly and not overheated. John in Australia - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: CS>Using Honey for wounds http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-04/sp-hht040606.php Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Bulk CS
I have a friend who wants to make CS on a large scale, I know that there is a ratio between the wetted area of the electrodes to the DC current applied. Anyone help? John in Australia
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
> > John: Try this phone number 03 9769 0666 > > Dean > Thanks Dean John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
-- > From: jein...@troi.csw.net > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... > Date: Thursday, 28 May 1998 4:27 > > > Ginny, > Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 > numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read > 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the > ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or > 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of > it thought, mostly distilled water. > Hope this helps! > Jim Einert, N.D. > Jim, I have been trying to get info on a local importer of the TDS1, and to no avail, hows about a contact for those foreigners (me) to obtain one from US of A John in Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
I am coming to OZ in a few monthsI would like to meet you Cisco Hey Cisco, I live in Port Macquarie, New South Wales, has a reasonable port, are you coming in your boat/yacht?? Hope I can meet you in person John In Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Did I make it?
> > connected all together in "normal" fashion > Water was room temp. > rods were in the water about 1 inch > rods were apporx. 1 inch apart > > I let it run 60 min. > > At the end of the run, the portion of the rod in that water turned gray/black. > One of the rods had a stream coming off the bottom and very small bubbles were around the rod. > I could not detect a color to the water. > > Well, did I make CS or not? What can I do to improve it? > >Sean I think you should have a dropping resistor in series with the pos (or neg) lead. Around 1 K ohm. You mention 1 inch of water covering the rods, you should have 90% of the rods covered by the water, use hot water, distilled water a must, every 15 minutes, remove the rods & thoroughly clean them, to remove any build up of silver oxide. I don't believe that you made CS John in Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: diameter of silver electrodes?
but I need an explanation about silver > electrodes. > In the paper Beck advise to use 10" (inches) of pure (.999) silver wire "# > 14" or "14 gauge (AWG)" as the preferred thickness. > What does "# 14" or "14 gauge AWG" mean? > As I'm not familiar with US units, could you please tell me the equivalent > in millimeters of this gauge? > In brief, how much should be (in millimeters) the diameter of the wire used > as electrode? Hi Doc, I use 2mm diameter medical grade (.) silver - makes great CS John in Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Argyria
> > I have been using CS since December for Lyme, but lately despite not finding > any blue people, I am becoming concerned about argyria. Are there any > answers? > > Lynn, There is a web site dealing with that particular question "Where are all the Blue People", but despite my search I can't find it. Anybody know of this particular site. John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour