Re: CS>Acne anfd psoriasis

[Roger and Lisa]

Many years ago, Adele Davis said that psoriasis is the result of an inability 
to digest fats.  That was definitely true for me.

I have never had psoriasis in my life, then, when I started having digestive 
problems, I got it.  I knew I was having trouble digesting fat, and when I 
looked into the psoriasis I was not surprised to find what Adele said.  In my 
case a liver flush made it go away.  I had not flushed in about a year, decided 
it was time, and was thrilled to have my ps disappear.  Now, I am sure it would 
not be that easy for someone with chronic ps, but it would be worth looking 
into!!

Lisa
  - Original Message - 
  From: cat4...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:48 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Acne anfd psoriasis


  Thanks again for more feedback. Her Psoriasis is only on her head and the 
diagnosis was plaque psoriasis.
  I never heard of that.
  Christel

  In a message dated 1/29/2014 11:30:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
slickpic...@cox.net writes:
Lena:

What is the size (mg) of the milk thistle capsules you take?

Thanks,
Terry 

 Lena Guyot  wrote: 

=
Along with Borax, Boron, vitamin D, and DE, I've found that milk-thistle 
has helped the liver issues from which my psoriasis arose. I'd tried one cap a 
day and it did nothing, but 4 a day caused noticeable progress in a couple 
weeks. Fumaric acid is also good, and someone dowsed that  cedar oil carried in 
olive, coconut or argan oil would help and it made a big difference on some of 
my patches.
Be well,
Léna
On Jan 28, 2014, at 8:38 PM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:

> Thank you Gail. My grandaughter is also plagued with Psoriasis.
> All tough for a 15 year old and I have no idea what to do about that
>  
> In a message dated 1/22/2014 8:40:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
wanda85...@yahoo.com writes:
> Boron which is what Borax is (Ted on earthclinic said he watch them 
literally take the boron from borax when making a boron supplement) is needed 
for calcium uptake and healthy bones.  U can get a boron supplement in pill 
form if one prefers.
> 
> Of course vitamin D.   I think most people are low in it and not even 
aware.
> 
> DE is also suppose to be good for bone health as well as MSM for joints.  
One guy said he healed his sciatic nerve back problem by taking high doses of 
MSM.
> 
> I take a little of all of them.
> 
> Gail
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:31 PM, "cat4...@aol.com" 
 wrote:
> did you find anything for your bones?If so would you mind sharing?
> CJ
>  
> In a message dated 1/22/2014 1:32:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
wanda85...@yahoo.com writes:
> No, actually I was reading some testimonials on 'earthclinic.com'  They 
have a section on borax.  I really like the stuff and it's dirt cheap. lol  Got 
into it when looking for something to strengthen my bones.  This 'old gray mare 
ain't what she use to be.' 
> 
> Gail
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:42 AM, Deborah Gerard 
 wrote:
> Gail,

> Is the borax group on yahoo?
> Thanks, Debbie :)
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:57 AM, Gail Naranjo 
 wrote:
> Hi CJ,
> 
> My grandson had the same problem.  Proactive worked well for him.   My 
daughter also uses it and it worked great.
> 
> However, I read on the borax list, borax works great for it as well.  
Especially when they get acne on their back.  My grandson's acne is gone now 
but he still gets it on back from playing basketball and sweating so much.  I 
gave him some borax and he said it worked really well.
> 
> My daughter use to sunbath a lot until she came down with skin cancer, so 
now she goes to the dermatologist and gets treatments, skin peals and such.  He 
skin looks really healthy now.  She also uses proactive.
> 
> So if you have the money or insurance covers it, a dermatologist does 
work really well as does proactive.  But is money is an issue, the 20 mule team 
borax works just as well.   I love the way it makes my skin feel.   Of course, 
at 64 I don't have acne, but it sure cleans out the pores and leaves my skin 
silky smooth.  Can also mix with your shampoo and leave your hair silky clean.
> 
> Gail
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:51 PM, "cat4...@aol.com" 
 wrote:
> My granddaughter is suffering with acne on her face. Does anyone on this 
list know what can be done to help this condition?
> CJ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: CS>Toenail Fungus

[Roger and Lisa]

Yes, tell, tell!!

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Cc: "123 456" 
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Toenail Fungus


What brand of lotion do you use?

Terry

 123 456  wrote:

=
Hey, everyone,
I keep saying this and mayb, just MAYbe someone will eventually try this.
The Muscadine grape seed lotions kill fungus because it has two (2)
extra chromosomes in teh seed for exactly that function... to kill
fungal growth.
I use the lotion (trans dermal herbal therapy) on my clients feet (I
am a certified Reflexologist BTW) and in a few days they start to see
the moons on their toe nails and NO fungus recurring.
Just a thought.
Tara

On 11/1/12, Zoe W  wrote:

Thank you Marshall,

Years ago I used WD-40 to ease my arthritis pain, it worked really 
well,but

I never understood why. Of course in those days DMSO meant nothing to me
either. You have helped solve a mysterious puzzle for me.

zoe




 From: Marshall 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012, 10:22
Subject: Re: CS>Toenail Fungus


Thinking out loud here. WD40 is made up of a lubricant oil plus a carrier
for that oil for penetration. The oil itself is pretty thin but still not
sufficient since they add a carrier which is DMSO. Seems DMSO would be the
best choice to me.

Marshall

On 10/31/2012 9:18 PM, mgperrault wrote:
On 10/31/2012 5:55 PM, Melly Bag wrote:


Tea Tree Oil should be good for fungus IF you use a carrier oil. From the
post i read the best carrier oil to use is Jojoba Oil because it is very
thin and can get through the nails. I did use it on my very brittle
cracked nails on my hands and it seems to help, the problem is i kept
forgetting to apply regularly.


Melly

Are you sure tee tree isnt itself a carrier oil? Why is jojoba

  better exactly? Is clove oil a carrier oil? how about oregano?
  Is Emu really the ultimate carrier oil? If carrying is what we
  want, why not DMSO? DMSO has a smell that is not
  attractivedoes this mean the body has an aversion to it? A
  drop on my table melted the finish right off. Seems pretty
  potent.

How about peanut and castor oils? (Cayce and others) How do we

  know we are saying something truthful, or just repeating something
  somebody else said who doesnt know either? Anyway, I read tee
  tree is a low viscosity carrier oil that slips between the skin
  cells This and the DIY LET lists sure have a lot of
  posts! Everyone thanks everyone and then thanks them for thanking
  them, and then a dont mention it added on before another your so
  dearits difficult to keep up with it.


Your welcome.

no, please,.dont mention it.







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Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM

[Roger and Lisa]

I don't get this.  If you can't buy non-glycerin soap, how can you make your 
own using commercial soap?  Can you use soap with glycerin and somehow make 
it into non-glycerin?  The article says you can't remove it at home.  Very 
confusing to me.


??

Lisa

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM


"How to Make Non-Glycerin Soap

"Overview

"Glycerin is a natural byproduct of the soap-making process. All soap
initially contains glycerin but commercial soap makers often remove
the glycerin and replace it with other softening agents. Glycerin
removal requires an industrial steam and filter process that is beyond
the means of most home soap makers, therefore, all homemade soap still
has glycerin. However, you can make your own, non-glycerin, scented
soaps by using unscented commercial soap and adding your own
fragrances."


Now that's the problem, isn't it.  Where does one get  an unscented
commercial soap!...

Dan



Read more: 
http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/#ixzz1NJoQZrBc


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Brooks Bradley  
wrote:

I neglected to include this, second, variation for making
glycerin-free soap, in my
previous email. Brooks Bradley.



http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/


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CS>glycerin soap

[Roger and Lisa]

OK, thanks!
Lisa

CS>Glycerin soap

[Roger and Lisa]

Can someone remind me why we don't want glycerin in our soap?  TIA!
Lisa

Re: CS>YouTube - LDN 2008 Dr Burt Berkson Best of part 1

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I have always heard that  those who have silver fillings should not take ALA 
because it pulls the mercury out of the fillings and into the body.  I I think  
Andy Cutler said that in his protocol for chelation.  Anyone heard of this 
concern?  Is it for real? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else??  
Thanks.
Lisa
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:32 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>YouTube - LDN 2008 Dr Burt Berkson Best of part 1


  Dear Dan, 
  Yes, it is quite acceptable to use ALA as an oral protocol..for an 
extensive list of insults. However, if the presenting insult is of MAJOR 
  CONSEQUENCE (e.g. Toxemia, diabetic surge, fulminating pathogens, massive 
liver enzyme fluctuations, etc.) There is no substitute for IMMEDIATE IV 
administered by 
  health professionals. Do understand, it requires upwards of 2000 mg to be 
administered.several times---in a single day, to effect the life-saving 
qualities required for Amanita poisoning.. 
  We have found, in our experimental researches, that 400 mg daily (for most 
Type II presentations) does a SPLENDID job of modulating a majority of 
  the negative effects of diabetes. The beneficial effects go beyond the 
liver,proper, and include the pancreas. One of the genuinely positive effects 
Alpha Lipoic Acid is 
  that it demonstrates a splendid support of the endocrine system.providing 
biological support which relieves the pancreas of much of its duty in 
responding to systemic challenges 
  requiring ENZYMATIC supportin addition to its, normal, alimentary tract 
supports. ALA, thus, measurably lowers the demands on the pancreas for 
extraordinary enzyme support. I do not k 
  have the timeat present...to elaborate on the mechanics of how this is 
accomplished, but will say that the ability of ALA to "recycle" both vitamin C 
and Vitamin E-produces 
  enormous systemic advantages to both the liver and the pancreas. Persons 
presenting with neuralgia of the extremities (especially the feet and ankles), 
VERY often obtain immediate 
  (within hours) relief of the burning/itching discomforts..just by taking 
around 500 mg of ALA and repeating the protocol twice daily until total relief 
is achieved. Sustained 
  levels of around 400 mg (once daily) proved to be (as a general rule) quite 
adequate for mitigating against recurring episodes. 
  While we have found no single MAGIC BULLET to be a "complete" curative agent 
for all the insults affecting the liver and supporting systems..Alpha 
Lipoic Acid is the CLOSEST 
  thing to such. 
  Interested parties can do no better (in my opinion) than to obtain a copy of 
Dr. Berkson's Book "The Alpha Lipoic Acid Breakthrough"...if a knowledge of 
the many benefits/uses of ALA 
  are of real importance to them. 
  In my own case, I take 400 mg of ALA dailyto splendid effect, I might 
add. My father was a diabetic, and suffered many complications before his 
death. His twin sister died from complications of Type II diabetes, at 64 years 
of age. Their mother died of Type II complicationsat a young age. My only 
brother suffered from Type II diabetes from the age of 55, until his 
  death at 84 (this past Feb.). Although I have been and still 
am.considered to be "considerably above average" in expressing vital 
health, I experienced several pre-diabetic complications around the age of 50. 
Some form of glucose management challenge did remain present, off and on, until 
I instituted a "home made" liver-support" program.(age58) which, although 
somewhat modified--I continue to this day. I consider ALA to be the LYNCH 
PIN in my present program.which is based upon diet (type and origin of food 
is the most criticalI believe). Without Marine Kelp as a continuing 
supplement,I have found that NOTHING has proved completely successful in my 
glucose management program. 
  Although I do not...as a general rule...modify my commentary with personal 
experienceI feel that in this case, its emphasis might serve to benefit. 
  I hope these comments have been of some value to you.and others who may 
have kindred questions. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 








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Date : Tue, 5 Jan 2010 18:02:12 -0600

From : Dan Nave 

To : silver-list@eskimo.com



Brooks, 



I watched the video, and he indicates that he used intravenous ALA. 

Is it possible to use the oral ALA instead? And at what dose? 



Very interesting, thanks, 



Dan 



On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote: 

>   I believe many on the list 

> will find this video series by Dr. Burt Berkson to be most informative 

> and useful.  Dr. Berkson has demonstrated to be the leading 

> investigato

Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines....

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

That is such a helpful thing to do, thanks!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:33 PM
  Subject: CS>Speaking of Migraines


Here is a link to my wife's attempt to put together a list of migraine 
remedies and so on.  

She was getting lost with all the info and so decided to put it 
together in a word document for her own use.  Then, she wanted to pass this 
info along to some of her friends on her yahoo Pet Rat groups, but it was 
getting difficult since some folks couldn't open up her Word document.

So, today I converted it to a web page.   Migraines have nothing to do 
with Rats, but I fiddled around with a photo I had taken of Pongo, one of our 
Rex rats and turned it into the background for the page so it wouldn't just be 
all black and white.

http://www.eatonrapidsjunkbarn.com/rats/clg_migraines.091209.htm






   




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Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines....

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I usually put the acv in a little water so it isn't so caustic.
  - Original Message - 
  From: jessie70 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:57 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Speaking of Migraines


  Lisa - acv meaning apple cider vinegar? How much is a chug? Do you mix 
w/something else? Thx. Jess
-Original Message-
    From: Roger and Lisa Royal [mailto:rerl...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:43 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines


I have found that most of my migraines are triggered by an electrolyte 
imbalance.  I can usually head one off by drinking a chug of acv.  I have NO 
idea if this is common or not, but I wanted to mention it in case it could help 
anyone else.
Lisa
  - Original Message - 
  From: Renee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:37 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines


Well, I don't know how a list about CS would feel about dietary 
stuff. ;-)  I personally don't have migraines, just kept your information for 
my files.  It's always good to have 'personal experience' information, though.  
I guess it depends on what others on the list say about the food thing.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---

It's a liver yin deficiency with heat rising.  There are some great 
points and herbs for this, but patterns can vary.  When you feel one coming on, 
eat/drink something very cold.
I can give dietary pointers, if you'd like.




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Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines....

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

ACV=apple cider vinegar.  I probably take a tablespoon.  I wonder if emergen-c 
would help, too..

I have the classic migraines with the aura before the pain sets in, so I have a 
warning that one is coming on.  I know there are lots of diff kinds of 
migraines and this may not work for others.
  - Original Message - 
  From: jessie70 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:57 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Speaking of Migraines


  Lisa - acv meaning apple cider vinegar? How much is a chug? Do you mix 
w/something else? Thx. Jess
-Original Message-
From: Roger and Lisa Royal [mailto:rerl...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:43 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines


I have found that most of my migraines are triggered by an electrolyte 
imbalance.  I can usually head one off by drinking a chug of acv.  I have NO 
idea if this is common or not, but I wanted to mention it in case it could help 
anyone else.
Lisa
  - Original Message - 
  From: Renee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:37 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines


Well, I don't know how a list about CS would feel about dietary 
stuff. ;-)  I personally don't have migraines, just kept your information for 
my files.  It's always good to have 'personal experience' information, though.  
I guess it depends on what others on the list say about the food thing.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---

It's a liver yin deficiency with heat rising.  There are some great 
points and herbs for this, but patterns can vary.  When you feel one coming on, 
eat/drink something very cold.
I can give dietary pointers, if you'd like.




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Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines....

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I have found that most of my migraines are triggered by an electrolyte 
imbalance.  I can usually head one off by drinking a chug of acv.  I have NO 
idea if this is common or not, but I wanted to mention it in case it could help 
anyone else.
Lisa
  - Original Message - 
  From: Renee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:37 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Speaking of Migraines


Well, I don't know how a list about CS would feel about dietary stuff. 
;-)  I personally don't have migraines, just kept your information for my 
files.  It's always good to have 'personal experience' information, though.  I 
guess it depends on what others on the list say about the food thing.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---

It's a liver yin deficiency with heat rising.  There are some great 
points and herbs for this, but patterns can vary.  When you feel one coming on, 
eat/drink something very cold.
I can give dietary pointers, if you'd like.




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Re: CS>CS for dogs, again

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Thanks for the ideas and links.  I will check them all out.  I was hoping the 
kelp would help.  I got my kelp from Wolf creek about a week ago, so we'll see.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Barbara 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:38 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS for dogs, again


  There is a group called K9Nutrition owned by Lew Olson who holds a PhD in 
natural health.  Here is an addy:

  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/K9Nutrition/?yguid=116429910 

  Really a good group and people are asking all kinds of health questions. 

  Barbara



So sorry to write so much about dogs... can anyone suggest a good healthy 
holistic dog group maybe?

Aldi




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Re: CS>CS for dogs, again

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Interesting.  I wonder why Lugols would help?  I'll certainly try it, thanks!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:57 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>CS for dogs, again


  Roger and Lisa,
   
  I have a lab that had food allergies (allergic to oats) and had hot spots.  
We finally started giving her 2 drops of Lugols in her feed and she cleared.  
Her skin cleared and now has hair.  She still sometimes get warm in the spot 
where it used to be and we spray cs on it and it seems to cool.
   
  Dianne
   

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  Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:51:14 -0600
  Subject: CS>CS for dogs, again


  My dog also will not touch water with a drop of cs in it.  I will try putting 
straight cs down for him as some have recommended.  

  I wonder, though, would drinking cs help with his "hot spots" at all?  He is 
always biting himself on the back and scratching.  He does drink a little ACV 
in his water and that keeps the fleas at bay, and that should probably control 
a yeast problem if that is what's causing it... Any ideas on this?  If it's 
allergies, any ideas what would help?  Thanks!


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CS>CS for dogs, again

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

My dog also will not touch water with a drop of cs in it.  I will try putting 
straight cs down for him as some have recommended.  

I wonder, though, would drinking cs help with his "hot spots" at all?  He is 
always biting himself on the back and scratching.  He does drink a little ACV 
in his water and that keeps the fleas at bay, and that should probably control 
a yeast problem if that is what's causing it... Any ideas on this?  If it's 
allergies, any ideas what would help?  Thanks!

Re: CS>OT boron and borax

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Are you in the US?  I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger, etc.  for 
about $4 per 16 oz.  I only use about a tablespoon in his drinking water--maybe 
even half of that (1/2 tablespoon)  Yes, you need the cloudy kind with the 
"mother".
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fuzzmom 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT boron and borax


  Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume youmean 
the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small bottles are 
expensive. 
- Original Message - 
    From: Roger and Lisa Royal 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT boron and borax


We have suffered with fleas on my dog for the past 2 years.  I have tried 
all the natural remedies I could find like DE and garlic, but nothing worked.  
The only thing that worked was Comfortis, a probably vile, monthly medication.  
FINALLY,  I read about apple cider vinegar being good for fleas.  I started 
putting a splash in his water (probably a 4 cup water bowl), and he has been 
flea free for several months now.  It has been a god send for us.  He doesn't 
seem to mind the taste either, thank goodness.  I am so happy to spread the 
word about this and hope it helps someone else!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fuzzmom 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT boron and borax


  Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't 
sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. 
- Original Message - 
From: zoe w 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT boron and borax


Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you have to 
do it again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent 
riddance.

zoe

Kirsteen Wright wrote: 


 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? i"ve tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

  I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for 
fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid 
of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered 
it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried 
pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd 
also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the 
floorboards (we had varnished floors).

  I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub 
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see 
clouds of fleas leaping off it.  

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Re: CS>OT boron and borax

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

We have suffered with fleas on my dog for the past 2 years.  I have tried all 
the natural remedies I could find like DE and garlic, but nothing worked.  The 
only thing that worked was Comfortis, a probably vile, monthly medication.  
FINALLY,  I read about apple cider vinegar being good for fleas.  I started 
putting a splash in his water (probably a 4 cup water bowl), and he has been 
flea free for several months now.  It has been a god send for us.  He doesn't 
seem to mind the taste either, thank goodness.  I am so happy to spread the 
word about this and hope it helps someone else!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fuzzmom 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT boron and borax


  Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't 
sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. 
- Original Message - 
From: zoe w 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT boron and borax


Borax  does kill the fleas  but not the eggs  which is why you have to do 
it again  in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance.

zoe

Kirsteen Wright wrote: 


 I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? i"ve tried 
Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic 
to them.

  I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I 
don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, 
it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as 
the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal 
on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also 
sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the 
floorboards (we had varnished floors).

  I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub 
pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see 
clouds of fleas leaping off it.  

  good luck
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Re: CS>Septic Tank Safety

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Great story!  Thanks for sharing.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Septic Tank Safety




 Your tag and the power line reminds me of a day
 Back in the 80s when I lived in an old school bus, I wanted to get a
telephone.
 My GF and I had just gone skinny dipping at the neighbors pond and walked
naked down our shared dirt driveway  to get back, only to find the phone
guy there waiting.
 We casually went into the bus and got dressed like nothing was
unusualThe phone guy needed a hole drilled into the bus for the line..

 "What caliber?"

You get the picture.
 Bet he still talks about that install.

Like Zoe, I had a phone, but no power.
The place is now inside Raleigh NC city limits and covered up with 
mansions.

They even filled in the pond.

Ode

At 03:58 PM 9/27/2009 -0400, you wrote:

Musta bin the dogs and shotguns...

Chuck
Most nudists are people you don't want to see naked.


On 9/27/2009 11:31:46 AM, zoe w (mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk) wrote:
> It took 10 yrs to get electricity up here,  other than a generator.
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Re: CS>Carb Blocker / Glucomannan

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Nenah, are you familiar with water kefir?  It's delicious!
  - Original Message - 
  From: zoe w 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Carb Blocker / Glucomannan


  That is unfortunate,  but at least you have found an alternative.We each 
must listen to our own bodies.

  zoe

  nenahsylver wrote: 
[zoe w] Nenah, Another solution is  Kefir  and/or Kombuchaboth healthy 
pro-biotics that you can make at home -  also  commercially  available.Both 
of these have proven useful in not only  weightloss,  but in balancing the body 
in general.  They  rebalance your gut flora as well as aid  in  detoxifying-   
its a win/win  situation.

=

Not if you're allergic to dairy and react negatively to Kombucha. I cannot 
tolerate either of those, for numerous reasons. Believe me, I've tried all 
variants, including making my own from organic (and in the case of dairy) raw 
goat's milk. Not good for me.



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Re: CS>Correction: Best place to buy DMSO

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

He means, I think, 99.95 % pure.

- Original Message - 
From: "Indi" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Correction: Best place to buy DMSO



Dang long URL got munged...
Use this one: http://tinyurl.com/cgs58g

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 06:13:00PM -0400, Indi wrote:

Best place?
That would be the most *expensive* place to buy DMSO I have heard of yet.
Don't believe the hype -- DMSO is DMSO, whether you pay $5.75/pint or 
$99.95.

I get mine at
http://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Pure-99%25-Liquid-16/dp/B000O5FRF4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1239747035&sr=8-2,
and it works just fine.

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 01:18:00PM -0700, Jason Vale wrote:
>The Best place to Buy DMSO is at apricotsfromgod.com  Comes in the 
> brown

>glass bottle and is 99.95 true.
>
>Jason
>

>   --
>
>From: Carl Deb Charter 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 5:08:35 PM
>Subject: CS>Best place to buy DMSO
>Hi all,
>
>Where is the best place to buy DMSO.  They do not carry it at our 
> local
>feed store, so I was thinking I'd have to purchase over the net. 
> Also,

>should it be in a glass bottle?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deb



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Re: CS>tooth abscess

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I too cannot take DMSO.  I literally stink up the whole house!  Chlorophyll 
didn't help.  Maybe this would, but I would have to be in danger of death to 
try it again--at that point I wouldn't care!  LOL


- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: CS>tooth abscess


Don't swallow it.  Spit it out after swishing.

Also, try putting the DMSO in the fridge for a few hours.  Some will
crystalize. This crystalized DMSO is pure.  The liquid part has more
water and the water soluable stinky stuff in it.  Pour it off, and try
to purify it some more in a different container.

Let the crystalized DMSO come to room temperature.  It should liquify.
If not, add just a touch of distilled water and shake it up.  This
should be less smelly than the original DMSO.

Dan

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:25 PM, sherry bakko  wrote:
I'm gonna sound like I'm whining, but the DMSO makes me smell bad, very 
bad

- will that happen if I don't swallow it? Is that the only way to use the
CS - swishing? Would it help if I ingested it for an infection?

Sherry

On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Dan Nave wrote:


If you want to use CS for it, you should add 20% DMSO to the CS (by
volume, not critical) and swish it in your mouth for 5 minutes. Do
this repeatedly.

Dan

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:47 PM, sherry bakko 
wrote:


I have a tooth that is, if not abscessed, headed that way. Will CS help
with the infection? If anyone has used CS to help with a tooth issue, I
would love to hear stories. I do NOT want to get a root canal.

Sherry


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Re: CS>Staph, yeast, etc.DOGS

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Paula,
I just wanted to report the latest with my dog's itching.  He is 
DRAMATICALLY better.  He is not itching, the red raw places are healing, and 
he also had some strange bite-looking things on his nether regions which are 
healing (altho he doesn't have fleas and he is inside most of the 
time--couldn't be bug bites).  I can only guess that it was yeast or 
allergies.  I thought about the yeast angle because I read an article online 
about itching dogs and they said with yeast, the dog's coat feels "greasy" 
which my dog's did.


I believe it is the Vit C (500 mg per day) OR the probiotic that did it. 
Sure would like to know, but I hate to risk it coming back to find out!


Please report if you try any of these suggestions.  I would love to know 
what the results are.  Thanks.  Lisa


- Original Message - 
From: "Paula" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:03 AM
Subject: CS>Staph, yeast, etc.



Nenah - you have made a very important point. While EIS is my 'ace',
maybe I'm undoing what I'm trying to do. Actually, I don't have a
clue what the cause of the itch is. The vet saying it is a yeast
problem only makes sense if I'm killing too much internal bacteria
with the EIS.

Lisa - Me, too. I've done lots of things but I haven't done Vit C.
I've likely been killing the probiotics with CS. One dog, which was
originally the worst by far, is now a bit better; the other dog is
now tearing himself up, can't sleep, cries, his skin visibly 'crawls'.

Kathryn - we're in the same boat except that you know what you're
treating. Maybe we're both shooting ourselves in the foot.

Completely OT for this group but I was given something called Karanja
Oil by a friend. I know almost nothing about it but it has healed the
scratch-wounds on my dogs asap. It is produced in India and treats a
bunch of things that I wouldn't have thought were related - mange,
psoriasis, eczema, pests on plants, etc. If it weren't an oil, I'd
smear the dogs with it.

Paula




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Re: CS>CS & Yeast/fungi

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

My dog recently started having this same problem and I have been trying lots 
of things --  CS, fish oil, 500 mg vit C and a probiotic capsule.  He has 
suddenly started to improve.  Of course I don't know exactly which thing 
helped, but the improvement came right after I started the vit C and a few 
days after I started the probiotic.  If it is allergies, maybe the C is the 
reason; if it's yeast, maybe its the probiotic.  Just some ideas.  Lisa


- Original Message - 
From: "Paula" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:02 AM
Subject: CS>CS & Yeast/fungi



I've been battling excessive itching/scratching on two of my dogs for
over a year and am getting nowhere. I finally had a vet come to the
house. She took multiple scrapings and swab samples. This was a vet
intern and she was not prepared. I had to provide the Q-Tips which
were by no means sterile. She also appeared to be about 14. Her
diagnosis is yeast on both dogs' bodies and in their ears. Their ears
are clean and always have been so she had a hard time getting a
sample of anything out of their ears.

Both dogs have been drinking straight, low ppm EIS free choice for at
least a year. They are raw-fed and no vax. Ordinarily that means no
yeast problems so I have to question the diagnosis. But, assuming
she's right, how can I kill the yeast?

My understanding is that EIS isn't as effective for fungal problems
as it is for bacterial and viral problems. If this were something
like nail fungus, I'd add DMSO to the EIS for penetration. I don't
think I should do that in this instance - right? I don't want to
drive the problem into their skin if it is just on the surface. If
this is some sort of on-going detox, it seems like the oral EIS
should have handled it by now. About the only thing I haven't tried
is dousing them with EIS. Previously I didn't have enough to do that
but I can now make a gallon at a time. I still don't want to waste it
if it isn't going to work. This isn't isolated areas, it is the
entire dog in both cases. My 3rd dog is not affected and has the same
diet, same everything as the other two.

Suggestions?

PaulaD



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Re: CS>Dr Christopher's eyebright formula

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

OK, thanks. Sometimes we CSers don't exactly follow directions, ya know?  ;)

Lisa

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Dr Christopher's eyebright formula


Of course you dilute it.
When all else fails, read the directions!

Chuck
Let me control a planet's oxygen supply and I don't care who makes the
laws!


On 8/4/2008 3:00:17 PM, Roger and Lisa Royal (rerl...@bellsouth.net)
wrote:

Sorry to bring this old subject up again, but I just wanted to be sure of
how to use it. It seems you can take it internally or put it in the eye.
This website says to dilute it. Do those of you who use it dilute it? Or
can I just drop it right in the eye? It lists alcohol as an ingredient, so
I wanted to be sure...

http://www.lifebalm.com/herbal-products/Herbal-Supplements/Herbal-
Eyebright-Extract.html

Thanks!
Lisa


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CS>Dr Christopher's eyebright formula

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Sorry to bring this old subject up again, but I just wanted to be sure of how 
to use it.  It seems you can take it internally or put it in the eye.  This 
website says to dilute it.  Do those of you who use it dilute it?  Or can I 
just drop it right in the eye?  It lists alcohol as an ingredient, so I wanted 
to be sure...

http://www.lifebalm.com/herbal-products/Herbal-Supplements/Herbal-Eyebright-Extract.html

Thanks!  
Lisa

CS>lugols and weight

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

>From this site:

http://www.quailwoodherbal.com/Lugol.html

I quote:

Precautions 
Sudden, large doses of iodine may impair the production of thyroid hormones, 
causing hypothyroidism temporarily in someone with otherwise normal thyroid 
function. 

Although I was only using 2 drops per day it IS powerful stuff.  Maybe this is 
what is happening to those of us who gain weight with lugols .Just a 
thought.

Lisa

Re: CS>Coconut oil

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

No, but thanks for trying.  It was someone who thought perhaps VCO was 
causing yeast infections.  I couldn't remember if it was a woman.  If so, 
often when you use something against intestinal yeast, the yeasties will 
escape into the vagina and cause a vaginal yeast infection.  Lisa


- Original Message - 
From: "Smitty" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Coconut oil


I accidently deleted the recent question about VCO.  Could the poster 
please

repost it?  Thanks.  Lisa


Is this the one ?




"T. J. Garland"  to Rick, silver-list
Anyone try this?   I just started  with  VCO(virgin coconut oil).
Almond and sesame oil were hard to hold for any length of time..  VCO
should work? www.oilpulling.com




Smitty


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Re: CS>Lugols

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I think I took one drop in the morn and one at night for about 6 weeks.

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig Chamberlin" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Lugols



Hi Lisa,

How much Lugol's were you taking?

Thanks,

Craig

Roger and Lisa Royal wrote:
I feel like I always have to give this warning to people starting Lugols. 
It can cause weight gain, especially in women.  I loved most of the 
effects of taking it, but I gained 15 pounds in a month.  I am still 
struggling to get that weight off.  After I started packing on the 
pounds, I looked around and found a lot of people on curezone who had the 
same effect.  If I had breast cancer, I would take it anyway, but I used 
it for hypothyroidism and I am getting help from the coconut oil.  Lisa



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Re: CS>Lugols

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

No, I never could find a good explanation.  It seems like you should LOSE 
weight.  I did find where one of the drs who promotes the use of lugols said 
that one of his pts gained weight and he put her on Optivite vitamins and she 
lost it.(sorry, can't remember his name)  But I found a post on curezone of a 
woman who gained 30 lbs on it.  I just couldn't keep going.  I'd worked too 
hard to get my weight off and keep it off.  I was seriously bummed about 
it--about the weight and about not being able to take lugols.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:46 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Lugols


Wow did they figure out why you would gain weight? thanks deb

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CS>Lugols

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I feel like I always have to give this warning to people starting Lugols.  It 
can cause weight gain, especially in women.  I loved most of the effects of 
taking it, but I gained 15 pounds in a month.  I am still struggling to get 
that weight off.  After I started packing on the pounds, I looked around and 
found a lot of people on curezone who had the same effect.  If I had breast 
cancer, I would take it anyway, but I used it for hypothyroidism and I am 
getting help from the coconut oil.  Lisa

CS>Coconut oil

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I accidently deleted the recent question about VCO.  Could the poster please 
repost it?  Thanks.  Lisa

Re: CS>Tap water

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

How long do you need to let the water sit out?  We have tried 24 hours and it 
still smells.  Lisa
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne Fugitt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:55 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Tap water


  At 05:17 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote:

Its not the hardness of the water that bothers me Chuck, its the chlorine 
et., which is potentially in there.  You can actually smell it in our tap 
water.  Dee 

Yes, here also.

 However, it is easy to get out.

 Just sit the water in an open container for a time, then tell me what you 
can smell.


I would suggest that you study Reverse Osmosis filters and compare others 
with that.

 Wayne

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CS>Stomach acid and yellow teeth

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

Thanks to all who made suggestions.  I will let you know what I find.. Lisa

CS>CS effect on stomach acid

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I wonder if CS has any effect on stomach acid one way or the other.  ABout a 
year ago, I suddenly stopped having enough stomach acid, and it coincided with 
the time I was using CS extensively.  Also, I read a post on curezone where 
someone felt their acid reflux was better with CS. Of course I have other 
suspects too, like food grade hydrogen peroxide, excessive consumption of nuts 
and a congested liver and gall bladder.  I am liver cleansing and flushing.  
The only thing that has helped so far is flushing with niacin; that seems to 
give me some Hcl.  Just wondered if anyone had any experience with this.  
Thanks in advance.  Lisa

Re: CS>CS Discoloring teeth

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I have this same phenom, except that my teeth turn yellow.  Very rapidly.  I 
wonder why it only happens to some people?  Perhaps it has to do with silver 
fillings.  Lisa
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  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:14 AM
  Subject: CS>CS Discoloring teeth


  I have a question about the side effect of using cs as a mouth wash or in a 
water pick turning my teeth a tent of gray.  I had wondered why my teeth were 
darkening as I had always had white teeth.  My girlfriend told me she had to 
stop using cs in her water pick for that very reason.  Is there a way to 
continue using the cs and not discolor teeth?  

  Dianne


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Re: CS>True Magnesium Level Determination

[Roger and Lisa Royal]

I am wondering how Hair sample tests would fit into this.  I had a high level 
of mag  there, but wondering if that could mean my body wasn't utilizing what I 
took, and it ended up in my hair.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:46 PM
  Subject: CS>True Magnesium Level Determination


  The recent commentary on Magnesium by list members prompts me to a comment 
  on determining the "actual" levels of magnesium in the human body. To wit: 
since magnesium (to quote Dr. Russell Blaylock) "is mostly an intracellular 
ionmeaning that normal blood levels will tell nothing of tissue levels". 
This circumstance calls attention to the fact that even NORMAL titers of 
magnesium in the bloodstream in no way guarantee satisfactory levels in the 
tissue beds of the body. In point of fact, one could be expressing SEVERE 
systemic tissue level magnesium deficiency while a current blood level test 
might indicate normal concentrations. This circumstance can greatly complicate 
the issue.because most doctors, presently, utilize "blood levels to assess 
magnesium deficiency." 
  One thing you can count on is.if the blood levels ARE low, the tissue 
levels will be distinctly, possibly dangerously, lower. 
  I have a suggestion for any (especially men) who have had by-pass surgery, 
strokes 
  or myocardial infarctsto have tissue tests made to determine the ACTUAL 
magnesium levels. 
  Do remember that it takes some consequential time to raise depleted tissue 
levels of magnesium in the bodywhen actual tissue concentrations are low. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for 
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