Re: CSSubject: CSinjury and pain: suggested solutions
on the rife group it was reported it has a probiotic form that is pleomorfic and can lead to cancer. roger sol wrote: I am NOT a fan of Primal Defense or their related products. The company gave me intentionally misleading information about whether there was iodine content in their products after I specifically told them I had a violent iodine allergy. It wasn't until I wrote again, and repeated my request for info that they grudgingly and rather rudely said, the products are grown on seaweeds, so do contain iodine. They should have said so in response to my first request, but they (in my mind) lied. So they have lost all credibility with me. Some people do have good results from using their stuff. But I won't buy anythng from a company that misleads and fudges their answer to a request from a customer with a severe allergy who NEEDS accurate and truthful and complete information. And had I believed their first answer ( I didn't because it didn't ring true--it sounded false), I could easily have been in for many more months of severe eczema, as it was a course of their Candida product which you are supposed to do before taking the Primal Defense did absolutely nothing for my candida, and I did follow directions to the letter. That product, also grown on seaweeds probably contributed a lot to months of pain and suffering for me. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUterine Fibroids
read h. clarkes book cure for all dieases. roger G K Murray wrote: My sister is diagnosed with a growing uterine fibroid. They tell her now it is the size of a 4 month pregnancy. What types of therapies are used in this type of malady. She is just turned 45 years old and has been to see a naturopath a few times and I'm not sure what she has tried. but is open to suggestions. G Murray -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMike M --What About the Hulda Clark Frequency Issue?
try the f-scan2 and see just how many of those microganisms you have? roger Mike Monett wrote: CSWhat About the Hulda Clark Frequency Issue? From: Wayne Fugitt Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 17:11:01 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72440.html Evening Mike, Thanks for all the technical exposure and analysis of frequency measurement. I can see no reason why the same problems do not exist with the frequency measurement that Hulda Clark suggests in some of her books. While it would be nice to be able to tell good foods from bad ones, and determine the state of disease with one meter (simple or complex) .. I was turned off by this theory in Hulda's book. I simply did not believe it to be possible. My technical knowledge does not compare with yours. I do have some practical experience to go along with the small amount of knowledge that I have. I simply had to refuse to believe the Hulda Frequency theory. Could these people possibly be measuring something else and calling it frequency? Maybe they are measuring the total noise level from a live food and a dead food. Likewise, a live body and a dead one, or a sick person compared to a healthy person? I hate to think these people are intentionally lying to us. Or do they carry a card like the politicians that says, I lie for Money ? Wayne Hi Wayne, I was not familiar with Hulda Clark's theories, but after a short web review and reading some of her interviews, it is easy to see why she is so controversial. Attributing everything to a parasite that is activated by isopropyl alcohol is simply bizarre. I think a competent medical doctor is better qualified to discuss her claims: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clarkaff/primack.html Her syncrometer technique is about the most imaginative I've ever seen. It is very subjective, and I don't see how you could find two people that would give the same result. If two or more people give different results, which one is correct? http://www.royalrife.com/syncrometer.pdf Her results on cancer treatment is simply abysmal, as documented in her own book: Case Histories Pages 119-372 of The Cure for All Cancers contain case histories of 138 cancer patients, of whom 103 were cured and 35 who did not carry out instructions or could not be followed. The standard way to determine whether a treatment is effective is to carefully record the nature of the patient's disease before treatment and to determine the patient's condition indefinitely. Clark's reports contain little information about the patient's history and no indication that Clark performed any physical examinations. The only follow-up reports are for a few patients who returned for further treatment - usually a few weeks later. Cancer treatment results are normally expressed in terms of cancer-free status or survival over periods of years. Five-year survival rates are a common measure. Clark claims she can tell that patients are cured as soon as their ortho-phospho-tyrosine test is negative - within days or even a few hours after her treatment is begun. This claim is preposterous. [...] None of the reports provides any basis for concluding that Clark's treatment has the slightest value. The majority of the people described in the 103 case reports did not have cancer. Of those that did, most had received standard medical treatment or their tumors were in their early stages. In these cases, Clark pronounced them cured but did not follow what happened after they left her clinic - so she could not possibly know how they did afterward. In some cases, she counted patients as cured even though she noted that they died within a few weeks after she treated them. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html So I have to agree with you. I find her theories very difficult to swallow. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMy startling allergy discovery
you can still have parasites in the bile ducts!!! roger David Bearrow wrote: I did the Dr. Hulda Clark cleanse. The one with epson salts. Since I have purged myself of parasites by drinking CS for years (and assorted home made herbal tea concoctions) I saw no reason for me to do the parasite cleanse. A couple of days before I start the cleanse I begin drinking large amounts of water to ensure my kidneys are well flushed. The cleanse has never made me feel worse. Its always been a positive experience. Especially after the first one and you see results (allergies gone) it makes it worth going through the diarhea. At 09:00 AM 8/2/04, you wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:impacted wisdom tooth
Reid Harvey wrote: Everybody, I too have some big questions as to CS and the mouth. Please ADVISE ME on what to do. My dentist has told me to have at least two wisdom teeth pulled, and I'm fifty three. my wife is keen I don't have the teeth pulled, that this is all about dentists making money, and their playing extra safe. But the dentist, and others, tell me infecting bone behind the teeth is a life threatening condition. It seems to me that if one were drinking lots of CS consistently that this kind of infection wouldn't arise. But how the heck much? And the idea of a zapper sounds good, thanks to dlinen. I think I'd also go, in a heart beat, for the godzilla B.E. device, DC in small doses. Then there's a CS/ DMSO combination, though I think this is preventive, not remedy. i would get the teeth pulled from what hapned to me roger Still, the dentist also says that the proximity of the horizontal teeth to the nerve is becoming more dicey as one gets older. He says that removal later on brings more risk of some nerve disorder, brought on by a tricky operation. I guess what I really need is something to tell my wife, since she usually makes the decisions (then convinces me *I* made the decision). THANKS FOR ANY OBSERVATIONS. Thanks, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA question (anna)
anna try a series of liver g/b flushes,and coffee enamas, you must be very toxic. roger Hi Richard, I sent the replies on to Anna, Here is her answer. Hank, I think you may remember this from NWOC. But, I had some CS from Innerlight. The very first time I took it...and it was only about 5 drops under my tonguemy throat closed up...I had an allergic reaction. I almost went into anaphylactic shock. Grabbed my inhaler just in time. Drank lots of pure water. I was told that it must've not been very good CS but I'm VERY sensitive to pills, drugs, herbs, etcso I have to admit I'm afraid to try it again. I don't even take pain meds like tylenol unless it's severe. I've got a really strong immune system...knock on wood, I've not been sick with a virus or flu since the week after 9/11. I had bronchitis for over a month...from the chem spraying which was heavy when aircraft could fly again. I had it so bad, I thought I'd die with it. But since, I've not even had a cold. I've had allergic reaction stuff..throat closing up, stuffy sinuses, watery eyes, etc. but no infection, cold, virus, etc. So - I don't have any CS. ??? Anna Sincerely Yours, Hank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS website
this is the best msp/c.silver i have used, just drink your DISTILLED water like it says. roger Terry Chamberlin wrote: Hi, I am dropping in to visit this list again after a long absense. Apart from Mike, I don't know how many of the folks who were around when I was last here are still here. I was interested in the responses of the members to this website: www.invive.com I think I will withhold my own comments until I read others. Terry Chamberlin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSYeast Infection Help
do some research on the net, gerd, to some is caused by yeast overgrowth. roger Odd coincidence that you report CS useful as an anti-diarrheal; I found, quite by accident, that it seems to work as an antacid! I have no idea what the mechanism could be, but after finding, by chance, that a gulp of CS remedied late-night acid reflux (from overeating), I have tried several times since then, with the same result. I am just guessing that if, as some claim, ionic silver forms silver chloride in vivo, then the silver chloride has the chemical property of neutralizing acids. I am not a chemist so this is just a guess. As for the effect you describe, I just do not know. Neither effect would seem related to the anti-microbial properties of CS. On Thursday, Dec 18, 2003, at 12:27 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote: You aren't the first person to report yeast symptoms after taking CS. It has never happened to me though, and I often take a whole lot more than your 3-5 oz per day, and my CS is more like 10-15ppm. I don't personally believe CS can disrupt the bacteria in the human bowel, perhaps somewhat in the upper small intestine, but not the large intestine. At least I can't get it to disrupt mine. It seems to me like colonics, since they actually go into the bowel ought to disrupt the flora a lot more (by washing them out), since so many think CS never gets far into the bowel in liquid form unless there is severe diarrhea. Since I do get diarrhea once in a while (usually from eating too much high carb high sugar stuff) I take the opportunity to drink from a pint to a quart of CS very fast in hopes of getting it through the whole tract in liquid form, but the CS has stops the diarrhea so fast it could not have made a complete transit as liquid, or I don't think so anyway. It makes no sense to me to take CS and a probiotic together. I try to take mine a couple hours apart. I wonder what would have happened if you had upped your CS intake even more rather than stopped it? Or gone ahead and tried it topically? Could it be that CS kills some of the bacteria that might be keeping the yeast in check first (would not necessarily be beneficial bacteria), but the yeast organisms take longer to kill off, thus resulting in a flare? My thinking is that maybe it takes more CS to kill candida than to kill bacteria/viruses. I'd really like to know if you ever figure out exactly what is happening, as I don't understand it. paula 3 days later I started getting the first signs of a yeast infection-never full blown but bad enough. Not only was I getting sick but yeasty and I was taking 5 ounces a day! I stopped my CS on Friday (to test it) and today (Tuesday) I no -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSYeast Infection Help
are you sue it was not just die off from the yeast, try taking a probiotic 1-2 hs after silver for a while. roger I will try to be brief :) I started CS daily about 1 1/2 months ago and I recently tripled my dosages to 3-5 ounces a day because I was 'almost' getting the flu. ( I take 5ppm CS Silver Tonic from a great source who is highly respected on this site.) 3 days later I started getting the first signs of a yeast infection-never full blown but bad enough. Not only was I getting sick but yeasty and I was taking 5 ounces a day! I stopped my CS on Friday (to test it) and today (Tuesday) I no longer have ANY yeast symptoms. I was very disappointed because I'm not giving up my CS! I turned to the archives before writing this post for any suggestions. Some believe CS can disrupt the flora of the gut others don't believe that (it disrupted mine.) I went on to read that some people take CS with acidophilus. Now this is where I need help... The advice I got was to take the 2 together at the same time. But that doesn't make any sense to me??? Doesn't one negate the other? Also, there were suggestions to actually use CS as a douche. Since CS did disrupt my flora, would it be wise to use it as a douche? As of right now, I'm no longer symptomatic but does that make sense anyway? FYI-I haven't had a yeast infection in OVER 10 years! I get regular colonics and follow a high protein-low carb diet. No potatoes, only high grain-no sugar bread and very little refined sugars. The only thing I changed was consumption of CS. Thank you in advance, Mag -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLYME-it does work, robb look up.
Robb, the lyme-and-r...@yahoogroups.com find the foucus allergyresearch newsletter, it is 15 pages long read the facts on lyme do you understand cellwall deffiency, dormancy, and subsequent. print it out and read it over and over. roger Is this true?...I have heard it is 3 days...and the life cycle is 30 days??..Robb - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: RE: CSLYME-it does work Hello William, You may already be aware, but the reproductive cycle of the Lyme organism is about 35 days. So it is probably good to continue treatment beyond complete remission of symptoms. JOH -Original Message- From: william meyer [mailto:calis...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLYME-it does work hi i have had lyme success with ionic silver. i was never diagnosed with lyme because diagnosing lyme is a pitiful joke. i have heard story after story of deluded souls traipsing from one doctor to another while they ordered test after test that are known to be unbelievably inconsistent. in many cases tests that came back positive were then disregarded by the doctors in question. for you lymies out there: lyme is a CLININCAL diagnosis and there is no magic bullet. the last time i was bitten by a tick i ordered antibiotics myself from a PET STORE on the net. no prescription neccesary. that means i didnt have to pay 150 dollars to convince a doctor- as i did the first time- to prescribe DOXY. i strongly suggest anyone who is within five days of a tick bite with symptoms to start on antibiotics immediately. add silver too. in my case silver helped me in later stages of lyme control my infection. i still have minor symptoms, but i also am still early in my chronic lyme treatment protocol. one has to do many things chronically to treat chronic lyme. one limitation of silver is my belief that i need to do it on an empty stomach. the doxy i took with or without food and that was a help and convenience. it is more than possible a proper silver regime will take care completely of an early lyme or co-infection (bartonella, erlichiosis, rockky mountanin spotted fever) from a tick bite. it may not stop the malaria like tick borne organism, babesiosis. neither will DOXY. in my case i am well versed in common tick borne infections and i assume my last bite transmitted something other than lyme. whatever it was, it was knocked out with doxy. i took 200mg for 14 days. if i had had lyme symptoms (NEW ONES) i would have continued my treatment longer. i urge anyone that is bitten by a deer tick to start the most agressive protocol possible if they begin to develop symptoms of lyme. i actually urge my friends to keep doxy around because delay is a terrible risk for chronic lyme later. again, someone who is well skilled with silver would probably have as \strong a medicine as doxy in silver. my experience is silver is VERY effective against lyme. -- best, willian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwhere to buy at best prices?
the only thing that helps my jaw after cavations cleaned virus on nerve. is the msp5000ppm i have to take heparin shots to get blood circulating. www.invive.com 1-800-877-5097 roger Can someone tell me where I can purchase cs for the best prices...or a generator..are they difficult to set up. I know that I need cs for lyme and a cavitation in jaw...please help if you can. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work
i was told you need a hot bath every day to get the bug out of its hideing places in the body, and must keep the blood saturated with silver for at least 30 days after you think you are over it. roger Hi Marshall.I'm wondering why cs doesn't help everyone with lyme.I know darn good and well that it will kill it.but it doesn't seem to reach where I need it too..any thoughts?suggestions?.Robb - Original Message - -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInvive MSP?
it is the best i have used(5000ppm) roger - Original Message - From: theskyk...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: CSInvive MSP? What does everyone think of INVIVE MSP?
Re: CSOT Stones and parasites
where do we get the beck protocal? is the godzilla stronger than the sota/beck unit? what is the difference in this and rife??? roger I just ordered a Godzilla Zapper and am expecting that CS plus ther rest of the BECK Protocol to clear out any parasites if they're present in my -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGenerator site
the fda, and quack watch can use this as an argument why silver is bad?? roger LOL! Thanks for the laugh, Trem. It looks like Haney from Green Acres wrote that web site. Whats sad is I imagine its fooling a lot of people into using salt in their process. At 10:47 AM 11/19/03, you wrote: Hi List, Check this site out. This is an example of what I would call blatant misinformation and exorbitant prices for an inferior product. Talk about using scare tactics. I have customers calling/emailing asking if these are good generators. I have to put my hip waders on when reading their disinformation. http://www.silveredgehealth.com/index.html +- Bentonite Clay for sale-+ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/davebe/clay.html ¦ David Bearrow ¦ ¦ dav...@sbcglobal.net ¦ + Phone: (972)722-8319 + -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew Member ,???? roger
no, dmso seams to bother my liver, muscle testing showes any thing under 100ppm does not do much for me, when one person tested the 5000ppm,he said this is real good, and he recomends 4ooppm c.silver. roger Have you tried using the CS with perhaps 10% DMSO to enable adequate absorption of the CS into the jaw? This may do the trick. Hold it in your mouth for 5 minutes at a time or as long as you can stand it. Dan Re: CSNew Member , nancy i have used several kins of silver, i have lymes, hhv6 hhv5, ebv,nanobacteria, a lot of it is in my jawbone and liver, i started out with c. silver and by muscle testing the best for me is 5000ppm out of canada, it is the only thing the seams to get into my jaw, along with a lot of liver g/b flushes and coffee enemas to detox dr. schults # 2. i am gaining my enegy back. roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLYME beck--lyme
Marshall Dudley wrote: CS kills lyme, there is no doubt of that. However CS must contact the lyme to kill it. Lyme is very good at hiding in places where CS cannot get to it easily, such as nerve ganglia, the brain and cartilage. If the CS does not reach it, then it cannot kill it. Thus CS can be very effective in preventing lyme, or getting rid of it in the early stages. It does not do as well in the later stages when the lyme have found hiding places. But I have never heard of Beck's protocol not working with lyme, since the other elements of his protocol are specifically to get to them in the areas where they can hide from CS. Marshall what is beck protocal for lyme? roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLYME but will it get a stages???????
will it get the cyst stage in the organs, one it has been there for years? roger I beg to differ...I took CS 6 years into my infection, and CS got rid of it. By that time I was in 3rd Stage Disseminated Lyme Disease. CS can go anywhere Borrelia burgdorferi can go. What is your proof of your statements??? Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew Member ,???? nancy
i have used several kins of silver, i have lymes, hhv6 hhv5, ebv,nanobacteria, a lot of it is in my jawbone and liver, i started out with c. silver and by muscle testing the best for me is 5000ppm out of canada, it is the only thing the seams to get into my jaw, along with a lot of liver g/b flushes and coffee enemas to detox dr. schults # 2. i am gaining my enegy back. roger Hello, I am a traditional health care practitioner as well as a life long herbalist and alternative medicine student and practitioner. I have numerous devices, have had my cs maker for about 2 months now, have been reading the Beck protocol, I really can't say I have noticed much from consuming the cs ( taking app 1 oz twice a day) I have much to learn from this group and probably will realize that I need to do something different or additionally, do feel very positive and convinced this is something very valid. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLYME-it does work
trans...@aol.com wrote: did you have a rash and start silver right a way? the water oz will not touch mine(igm39) had it a long time with several virus. roger Paula, As I said earlier, I do not have the time right now to make my own silver, although I hope to at a later date. I have tried many different brands, including CS Pro, Mild Silver Protein, and are currently using Water Oz. I find it effective and priced economically. Besides the LYME, I have used it to heal severe puncture wounds and cuts, ear infections, skin irritation , sore throats, periodontal disease etc. I take it everyday as a preventative. At this point, just a teaspoon a day unless I feel something coming one. I'm not professing it to be a cure all but it is an amazing substance. I swear by it. Regards, Nick -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLYME
is this why one mfg says for lyme, you need a hot bathe each night for 45 min because lyme sequester in the body and organs? roger Did it make it into your lymph system? My sister had it and was able to get rid of it except for in her joints and lymph system until she started magnetic pulsing it. Check the writings of Bob Beck on his protocol. The magnetic pulser is specifically because CS does NOT make it into the lymph system. He discusses this at length. Everyone is different. Maybe it did not make in into any of the hiding places, or your immune system was able to get them in the hiding places once the majority of them were destroyed. Marshall mamapug wrote: I beg to differ...I took CS 6 years into my infection, and CS got rid of it. By that time I was in 3rd Stage Disseminated Lyme Disease. CS can go anywhere Borrelia burgdorferi can go. What is your proof of your statements??? Marshalee CS kills lyme, there is no doubt of that. However CS must contact the lyme to kill it. Lyme is very good at hiding in places where CS cannot get to it easily, such as nerve ganglia, the brain and cartilage. If the CS does not reach it, then it cannot kill it. Thus CS can be very effective in preventing lyme, or getting rid of it in the early stages. It does not do as well in the later stages when the lyme have found hiding places.But I have never heard of Beck's protocol not working with lyme, since the other elements of his protocol are specifically to get to them in the areas where they can hide from CS. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSalmonds/cyanide
try giving you pet bird apple seeds, and see what happens! mamapug wrote: Hmm, my 29 guinea pigs eat whole apples almost every day. So far, the cyanide in the pips hasn`t harmed them. Marshalee Bob, You do not want to get the benefit from the apple seeds. They have cyanide in them, according to the post. If they pass through your juicer whole, then you are probably OK. Dan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew here
when using mild silver protein, i was told to take 4oz oj,or grapefrute juice 20 min before taking the msp to help cross the bbb. and no citris any other time. roger No. But I would not take Vitamin C (ascorbic acid, or sodium ascorbate) with CS. It would likely product silver ascorbate. I would take it at a different time. I also would avoid drinking citric juices at the same time as taking CS, although I am not aware of any research that indicates this could be a problem Marshall chin...@aol.com wrote: Hi, I am new here on this list and have a question? Are there any herbs or vitamins that should be avoided when taking CS? Phyllis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDiabetes need chromium and vanadium
try chromium and vanadium Charles Sutton wrote: I was diagnosed with type II diabetes last week. I guess CS doesn't prevent it. I hear the feds say there is no cure, so I know there is one somewhere. any clues..?? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEpstein-Barr virus and CS?(Plus Coxsckie, Candida and Interro)
will the silver kill the ebv,hhv6,5,coxscke? how many ppm, how long do i take -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: [Lyme-Aid] chroniocally ill problems gut, liver g/b???????
someone posted the following article on another list and I'm copying it herei find that this article explains oh so much pos for stealth, neurotoxins - in the past had herpes 6 and epstein barr - have been laid up for months by bug bites so something is definitely wrong with the immune system - rnasel tested high a few years ago. but i love the explanation of cell membrane problems...here's the article: ...Healing the membrane is virtually...healing the brain... -- NEUROTOXIC SYNDROMES -- The Detoxx System: Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes By John Foster, M.D., Patricia Kane, Ph.D., Neal Speight, M.D. Chronically ill individuals suffering from neurotoxin exposure impacts patient populations with CFIDS, Fibromyalgia, MS, Autism, Cardiovascular Disease, Depression, Rheumatoid Arthritis, IBS, Infertility, ALS, Parkinsons, Lyme, Toxic Building Syndrome, Estuary Associated Syndrome, Psychosis, Diabetes without family Hx, Optic Neuritis, Refractory Heavy Metal Toxicity, Pulmonary Hemorrhage, Stroke. Patients diagnosed with these chronic illnesses may be potentially classified as 'Neurotoxic Membrane Syndrome' (NMS) with the endothelial cell membrane as the target of degeneration. While hypercoagulation involves a myriad of proteins, it is ultimately a membrane event, essentially disrupting the phospholipids that structure the membrane. Agglomeration (blocked cellular exposure to blood flow/nutrients and impaired cell-to-cell communication) indicates elevation of phospholipase A2 and the uncoupling of eicosanoids from the cell membrane causing inflammation. The agglomeration that eventually occurs is, in essence, a product of a weakened membrane, and ultimately a disturbed red cell fatty acid profile. Clinical Research We have established a biomedical protocol in our clinics, The Haverford Wellness Center in Havertown, PA and The Center for Wellness in Charlotte, NC for patients with neurotoxic illness. Our biomedical approach is an attempt to reach the systemic nature of these tenacious neurotoxic syndromes and provide clinically proven methods that eradicate neurotoxins. Our course of action is that of freeing the patient of pervasive symptoms of neurotoxic illness in a noninvasive manner that heals the membrane, and ultimately the body and brain. The recent pioneering work of Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D., as communicated in his book Desperation Medicine and his peer reviewed papers (Shoemaker 2001), lends strong support to a connection between Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Lyme Disease, Pfiesteria infection and that of numerous Neurotoxic Syndromes. Biotoxins as Neurotoxins The presentation of biotoxin exposure often parallels neurological and psychological impairment due to the interrelationship between the ENS (Enteral Nervous System) and the CNS. The biliary tree, gall bladder, and bile formation within the liver serve in the vital processes of detoxication (disposal of waste products bilirubin, heavy metals, biotoxins, xenobiotics), lipid metabolism, transport and digestion (bile acids). Abnormalities of the hepatobiliary system may involve biliary stasis whereby infectious material or biotoxins reside within the liver, biliary tree and gall bladder, as a viscous suspension in biliary sludge. Biotoxins as bacteria, viruses, parasites, spirochetes, dinoflagelletes, and fungus may be within biliary sludge often creating neurotoxins impacting the CNS via the ENS, or the Second Brain (gut). The occurrence of biliary sludge may be due to prolonged fasting, low fat intake, high carbohydrate diets or exposure to pathogens. Restriction of dietary fat may impair biliary flow which would be contraindicated in attempting to clear toxicity as bile is paramount to cleansing the body and getting biotoxins and heavy metals excreted into the fecal matter. Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD (kilodaltons) that are comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and sulfate atoms arranged in such a way as to make the outside of the molecule fat loving and water hating. As such, once it enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are rich in fat such as most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney, and brain. Neurotoxins are capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and moving through it, crossing cell membranes (transporting against a gradient, particularly with potassium) disrupting the electrical balance of the cell itself. As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the body from the GI tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint to nerve, whereby they eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once neurotoxins bind with bile they have access to the liver, the body is poisoned
Re: CSInjectable Silver
there is some info under mildsilverprotein, do a search, i donot rember the web address, i found one from canada with 5000ppm the really workes oraly, but you must drink distilled water ony with it, the7 have a 10,000 ppm for dr.use to.roger I understand that homemade CS is not safe to be used IV (and I have no plans of using silver for IV) but I am still very curious about it. I tried to read more about it but the info is over my head. I'm just wondering if CS could be made with Sterile Injectable Water (that doctors and vets use) instead of distilled water and be safe to use for IV? Or would the process of making it this way at home still be unsafe due to possible contaminants during the process? Lisa -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSleep Apnia
have you beentested for lymes?? roger On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:08:00 -0700 mamapug mama...@netzero.net writes: Dear List, Well it is a moot point if I have apnea or not, as I just found out the insurance won`t help me with the machine. Dear Marshalee- DEAR MARSHALEE I also have sleep apnea. I was falling asleep after five minutes of inactivity. I was falling asleep while driving, etc. I did a sleep study at an ACCREDITED SLEEP CENTER. Out of 472 minutes of sleep I woke up 490 times. I also had several episdes where I stopped breathing entirely. I have HIP however my policy did not cover Medical Devices. However, the Director of the Sleep Center wrote directly to HIP and told them that my life depended on me getting a CPAP machine. There is a special provision and monies set aside for life threatening conditions that require equipment which the person cannot afford. Thats the way I got my first machine. However, as time went on, I had to go in for another sleep study, and it was determined that I needed a BIPAP. That machine cost $1500. They would not buy it outright, however, they rented it at the rate of something like $250 per month--until my condition improved. Since it did not improve--After a few months, I owned the machine outright. No it is not sexy and I too am claustrophobic. I would pull the machine off in the middle of the night in my sleep. After a while though, you get accustomed to it. And you really sleep probably for the first time in years. You will notice a difference. Sleep Apnea is a life threatening disease. Mention what I have said to your doctor--Contact the insurance company again. Last resort contact the company that makes the machine--they may have a special plan or a way to force your insurance company to pay... If you need more help, I will put you in touch with my people. Let me know Gladys -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
