CS>Best Wishes!

2000-04-18 Thread joegum
Hi silver listers!  Lately, I find myself very pressed for time.  And
I've been spending over two hours a night just getting through my
emails.  But, before leaving, I want to thank you all for putting up
with all my dumb questions and for taking the time to answer my all my
dumb questions.  THANK YOU and BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL!  Joe G.
(P.S.  If things lighten up,  you'll probably be hearing from me again
on this list.) 


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Re: CS>Try this

2000-04-14 Thread joegum
Thank you Fred!   I'm very glad I asked and VERY glad you answered.
You've just helped me dodge a bullet.  Joe

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Joe, Re: Coffee filters

What you are dealing with (Cs) is a very pure solution, in the
parts per million, so it takes little contaminate to modify it!

I have Brew Rite brand coffee filters (made by Rocklite Inc.)
and one filter will add 35PPM of crud to an ounce of pure
water! If used with perfect Cs it makes 5PPM change to
20+PPM and it TURNS DARK IN THE SUNLIGHT in 15
minutes, indicating the formation of silver salts!  So many
on the list say there are "good" coffee filters that I borrowed
some from friends and  they all were lousy! Interestingly,
some of the same brand were much better then mine (12PPM)
and the quality of the paper looked better - guess they buy paper
from different sources, so there can not be a standard quality!

The point is that if you start with 5PPM and add 5+PPM of crud
(binders, clay, etc. in the paper) you windup with silver salts,
which are mostly poorly soluble and thus little value. Your
body chemistry can breakdown soluble salts such as silver
nitrate, to use the silver ions, but the nitrates are bad news!
So, not knowing the chemistry of what you made can be risky!

What you can do (if you have measuring means) is wash a
coffee filter 4 or more times in pure water (one took 10 washings),
until the crud is washed out, and then use it until it clogs!

I put a coffee filter in 2 ounces of DW and shake it up well, dump
out the water and repeat, until it adds less the 0.25PPM, before I
will use one.

P.S. No Bob, good stuff will not darken in sunlight, even strong UV
for weeks, but contaminate it, to form salts and it will! Those that
insist on colored bottles are suffering from a case of the "salts"!

f...@health2us.com

Joe said:
Re:  "... wash a new coffee filter in it..."  Based on past postings
wih this group,  I thought a coffee filter was a perfectly safe method
for filtering out any larger, argyria-causing,  silver particles and
precipitates.  Now, I see that doing this can ADD contaminants, even
argyria causing contaminants?   Joe G.  



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Re: CS>Question about storage of CS

2000-04-14 Thread joegum
Thanks Bob!  Joe 

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Hi  Joe.

If you are using disstilled water there is no way in the world that you could 
form a
silver coumpund.. So forget Argyria.

The color change says that the silver is agglomerating into larger colloids and 
hence
is less effective in the body.

"Ole Bob"

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CS>Fwd: Re: CS>Question about storage of CS

2000-04-14 Thread joegum
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So... we can assume that if there is a color change with sunlight
exposure,  we have other contaminants... maybe even dreaded, argyria
causing silver COMPOUNDS?  And vice versa?   No color change = pretty
good purity?  Joe G.
PS. Sorry to be so simplistic about this, but as you've probably
guessed,  I'm not exactly a "techie."  

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Karen and B&B+ all else;

Where in the world did you get the idea of storing in the dark or in brown or
blue or green bottles???

As for sunlight that is another "OLD WIVES TALE."  To de bunk that I set a 2
liter cola bottle half full of CS out on the south back porch and for over three
weeks sat in direct sunlight. Guess what NO CHANGE.

I would not use the plastic bottles that the DW comes in as it will turn your CS
a light yellow after several months.

Causing trouble again!

"Ole Bob"




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Re: CS>Try this

2000-04-14 Thread joegum
Re:  "... wash a new coffee filter in it..."  Based on past postings
wih this group,  I thought a coffee filter was a perfectly safe method
for filtering out any larger, argyria-causing,  silver particles and
precipitates.  Now, I see that doing this can ADD contaminants, even
argyria causing contaminants?   Joe G.  

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All you are doing Steve is changing the bulk resistivity of the sol between
the electrodes and thus will take a longer time to process. You will also
effectively reduce the negative electrode area and thus build heavier
deposits on a smaller area and thus more will fall off into the Cs.

They were ment to tell you to spray your hair with silver salts, not Cs.
It will darken when light hits it! Make some by adding a little salt or tap
water, before you start the process, or take good Cs and wash a new
coffee filter in it. Set it in the sun and you will see the solution darken
in 15 minutes.

f...@health2us.com

If you have flat silver probes like I do with my SilverGen constant current 
genertor, you are probably positioning the probes so that the flat surface 
area are separated by an inch or two.  I wondered what would happen if I 
rotated the probes by 90 deg so that the flat surfaces were not looking at 
each other. I thought that maybe the sintering process would change.  Maybe 
the effective increase in distance between probes might result in less 
residue/sludge, etc.  Well, it looks like that simple little change 
actually did result in less residue on the probes themselves and on the 
surface.  Results still very preliminary, but before you poo-poo the idea, 
give it a try to see if you get the same results and report to the list.


They told me my hair would get darker if I sprayed it with silver 
waterNOT! ;-)  Yours in smurfdom.


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CS>Wine & silver article

2000-04-03 Thread joegum
Hi again.  I thought this group might be interested in an article I just
read in "The 30 Second Wine Advisor" ezine.  It deals with the use of
either copper or silver to eliminate the  rotton egg smell in some old
wines..  The link is:
  Joe G.  


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Re: CS>Re: possible VERY, VERY cheap ozonator plans?

2000-04-03 Thread joegum
Oh well...   Thank you to EVERYONE for setting me straight on this.
Joe G.  


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CS>Re: possible VERY, VERY cheap ozonator plans?

2000-04-03 Thread joegum
I was just wondering...A lot of us who grew up in the sixties and
seventies had our own "black lights" used to illuminate artwork, etc.
Doubtless many of these are laying about unused  or might even be
purchased at flea markets "for a song."  I also remember the rather
sickly-sweet, somewhat acrid smell when these were used. (And yes,  I'm
sure it was from the bulbs.)  I wonder... if one simply wrapped some
clear neoprene tubing around the length of the UV tube,  connected a
cheap aquarium air pump at one end and an even cheaper aquarium
air-stone at the other,  would this make an effective ozonator?  If so,
this could be of benefit to those on this list that simply can't afford
a $200 plus unit.  Joe G.


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