Re: CS>WARNING! from list owner

[kaykelly]

please remove me. I have tried to opt out of the group but that didn't work. 

-Original Message-
>From: "M. G. Devour" 
>Sent: Oct 3, 2010 9:45 PM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Cc: zebulan5...@yahoo.com, davedar...@gmail.com
>Subject: CS>WARNING! from list owner
>
>I'm always amazed at the difference 24 hours can make. Things weren't 
>going too bad, until somebody decided they are going to try to run the 
>list for me.
>
>Robert offered what I would consider a prescription for a spiritual 
>healing modality, little different than EFT or Reiki or other 'energy 
>healing' or otherwise non-physical techniques that sometimes pop up in 
>discussions here.
>
>As odd as it may seem to those who are particularly sensitive to the G-
>word, it was actually a technical post, if largely off topic.
>
>I never have and do not now intend for those types of contributions to 
>become a frequent feature of the list or to overwhelm our discussions.
>
>That said, Robert's infraction of the list rules was of such a 
>negligible nature that I would only have cautioned him about it, 
>gently, and only if he'd showed signs of making a habit of it.
>
>The response to Robert's post by Dave and a few others is a more 
>serious problem.
>
>The list rule prohibiting discussion of religion and politics is not 
>intended as a WEAPON to be used by members to enforce THEIR will on 
>other members, but a tool for each member to guide their OWN behavior.
>
>Dave labelling Robert's post as "... a bunch of obscene bull shit" is 
>an attack that is entirely out of proportion to the provocation and not 
>behavior I intend to tolerate toward *ANY* of my members.
>
>First and most obvious, Dave does NOT run the list, I do. It's not his 
>or any other member's job to discipline other members or to complain 
>about their behavior on-list. Such public complaints are disruptive in 
>themselves and are also clearly against the same rules he was so quick 
>to invoke.
>
>Your job as members is to contact me privately when, in your opinion,  
>something is going wrong on the list. I will happily accept such input 
>and use it to guide my moderation, many times acting behind the scenes 
>to coach people toward the expected behavior.
>
>That's my job, use me.
>
>Second, the prohibition on discussions of religion, spirtuality, or the 
>metaphysical is not the same as intolerance OF those beliefs. As I say 
>in the list rules...
>
>> I am not asking you to "de-God" everything you say, do or think,
>> however. Brief greetings, thanks, and prayer requests or offerings are
>> acceptable. The occasional "God bless", or "you're in our prayers"
>> will not be seen as a transgression. 
>
>Yes, Robert's offering was outside those guidelines and not the kind of 
>thing I am going to encourage routinely, but I will also not allow the 
>creation of an environment which is HOSTILE to those who so believe.
>
>Intolerance of spirituality is no better or worse in my eyes, as the 
>person who has to moderate the discussion, than the religious 
>intolerance that causes such topics to rapidly descend to the very 
>flames of hell in the first place.  
>
>So...
>
>Tolerance is called for on both sides... ALL sides. 
>
>Public complaints about other members' behavior or actions are not 
>appropriate or allowed. 
>
>Aggressive behavior toward other members, who are also my guests here, 
>is *still* prohibited.
>
>Lastly, since at least one person mentioned it, let me remind you all 
>that I also consider assaultive or aggressive behavior in private e-
>mail to other members inappropriate. If you receive such items and they 
>concern you, let me know. Participation in this list should not result 
>in anyone being subjected to such things.
>
>For your reference, the list rules reside at www.silverlist.org ... 
>Please re-read them and contact me if you have any further questions.
>
>Let the thread die now. Don't respond if somebody else does before they 
>see this message. It may take another day or two for it to completely 
>end. Let it.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Mike Devour
>silver-list owner
>
>[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
>[mdev...@eskimo.com]
>[Speaking only for myself...   ]
>
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Re: CS>Dave Darrin< remove from list

[kaykelly]

please remove me from this list. I live in the south I don't need any more fuel 
to stay warm. 

-Original Message-
>From: Ode Coyote 
>Sent: Oct 4, 2010 6:30 AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Dave Darrin< remove from list
>
>
>
>   This isn't about religion...it's about someone not showing the respect 
>they demand and letting other people use his ears for him to insert 
>thoughts he doesn't want to think but is powerless not to.
>  Can't control self, must control you.
>"Superior" yet helpless.
>
>I once knew someone that would write back to [snail] junk mail addresses 
>demanding it cease  instead of using it to start the wood stove and stay 
>warm.well, she stayed warm under the collar, at least, but none of it 
>ever stopped coming.
>
>If the wind is blowing, you build a wall and let it go around.  Screaming 
>at it only adds to the chill.
>
>Ode
>
>
>At 08:12 AM 10/3/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>>Hanneke
>>There was nothing nasty in my response. The religion thing just keeps 
>>building and building until it becomes overbearing.
>>The mind has a good deal to do with healing as can be seen  everyday. As 
>>far as Reiki is concerned I have no knowledge of it and am not bombarded 
>>with it daily so I wouldn't notice.
>>Dave
>>
>>On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hanneke 
>><bloss...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>>I wonder if I would get such nasty responses if I had suggested to use 
>>>Reiki.. pretty similar to the kind of spiritual approach Robert suggested.
>>>
>>>Not sure what you guys are afraid of but if you are afraid of approaching 
>>>health and health issues other than via mechanical ways, you're missing 
>>>something in the healing process.
>>>
>>>I for one believe that the mind is part of healing.. if you call that 
>>>religion and that scares you, not sure who is having the problems here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 11:12 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:
The place for ones personal religious or spiritual belief is NOT the 
public domain.

Follow the guidelines, show due consideration for others beliefs and 
philosophies, and show such support in private, after all, it is an 
individuals personal philosophy and it should remain as such, hence one 
will avoid any flak which is bound to be incoming.  Some take religion 
and/or spirituallity quite serious, and that's a double edged sword, so 
it would be better to keep it private and avoid inciting such responses 
from those who hold a different philosophy.

You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine, keep that in mind and 
everything'll be sweetsay n'more, say n'more.

N.

 > From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 > Subject: RE: CS>Dave Darrin< remove from list
 > Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:59:03 -0400
 >
 > Oh, get a GRIP!
 >
 > The mean spiritness being shown is way more offensive than an
 > innocuous affirmation for healing.
 >
 > PC really sucks!
 >
 > Chuck
 > WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are
 > whispering when you are not.
 >
 >
 > On 10/3/2010 12:52:37 AM, Neville Munn 
 (one.red...@hotmail.com) wrote:
 > > Quote:
 > > "Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you 
 want to on his incision if it is for his highest good. "I
 > > infuse
 > > God's Divine Love into this situation" end quote.
 > >
 > > Well if that don't
 > > smack of religion I dunno what does ...? If he 
 meant Ra
 > > the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca, Mayan or Aztec human
 > > sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it probly
 > > wouldn't have been so offensive.
 > >
 > > Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such ideals, and that r
 >
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Re: CS>remove from list// Robert

[kaykelly]

please take me off the list
-Original Message- From: carolG Sent: Oct 3, 2010 10:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>remove from list// Robert 


Well said Lois.  Most of us not way, but some can be even behind scenes sadly.  Wow, did I get a shock at thhis experience!  Sad, but this seems to be a safe place for those who are frustrated to bash privately or publically. Still list is great enough to ignore those few.




From: "zzekel...@aol.com" To: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Sun, October 3, 2010 6:53:39 AMSubject: Re: CS>remove from list// Robert

In a message dated 10/2/2010 2:25:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zebulan5...@yahoo.com writes:





Please take me off this list.  Thank you.
 
Robert Booth
 
 

Robert, please reconsider. There are rude, unfeeling people in this world. It is obvious that you are not one of them. The rude & unfeeling will rot from inside. Just send them a blessing & let it go... Lois


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Re: CS>remove from list

[kaykelly]

me too; please remove me from this list. thank you, kay kelly
-Original Message- From: "Robert L. Booth" Sent: Oct 2, 2010 2:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>remove from list 




Please take me off this list.  Thank you.
 
Robert Booth
 
 


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Re: CS>motor neurone disease

[kaykelly]

burger king here we go...

-Original Message-
>From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
>Sent: Aug 30, 2008 2:06 PM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>motor neurone disease
>
>Questions like this are easily looked up on wikipedia.
>Just cut and paste.
>   Chuck
>I eat junk food to get it out of the house
>
>On 8/30/2008 11:36:10 AM, kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
>> What exactly is motor neurone disease?
>> 


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[kaykelly]

-Original Message-
>From: Teri Kavakos 
>Sent: Mar 22, 2008 10:36 PM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>WHY THE CHEMO?
>
>My mother had experimental chemo for uterine cancer back in 1965.  They 
>removed a 8 lb tumor and treated her with chemo.  It bought her 35 yrs so 
>she did benefit from it.
>
>My husband in now undergoing chemo his cancer had rapidly advanced and he 
>was dying of liver failure last month.  We consented to chemo to try and 
>save his life.  It worked and maybe that is only for the time being but his 
>quality of life is good and he is alive.  Not all people have this kind of 
>positive response.  I'm with you I don't like chemo and the negative side 
>effects that many suffer.  But that said.  We can fight the good fight 
>against cancer trying to use the various natural ways of healing. Then a 
>time comes when nothing is working anymore and Chemo is the end 
>choice.  There are some people who have  gone into remission of certain 
>types of cancers, others are not so lucky.
>
>It's a very personal decision and as someone who never thought I would say 
>yes  I found myself saying yes and I have no regrets.
>
>Teri
>
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Re: CS>Degenerative disk disease

[kaykelly]

I suffer as well, but haven't found anything that works very well...so far for 
me a product called zyflamend is wonderful, helps me get to sleep but must be 
taken every 4 hrs to be helpful all day long. it doesn't remove the throbbing 
pain but at least it makes it mutes it somewhat as long as I don't try to lift 
anything heavier than about 8 lbs and even that some days is stretching things.

plmk if you have anything better, kay kelly

btw I have tried spinal injections, tramadol and nubatine, just plain pain 
killers (tended to destroy life in general), and son on. 

-Original Message-
>From: S-Max 
>Sent: Mar 13, 2008 10:27 AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: CS>Degenerative disk disease
>
>I'm wondering how many of us on this list suffer with DDD? 
>What treatments have you done? 
>What worked? What didn't? 
>Any supplements that are effective? 
>S-Max 
> 
>---Original Message--- 
> 
>From: tmisner 
>Date: 3/12/2008 9:25:11 PM 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Subject: Re: CS>Degenerative disk disease 
> 
>I would also like the info on "helping the DDD" that Deborah requested. 
>Trudy 
> 
>
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