Re: CS>better generator?
Ode, Your bullying techniques won't work on me. You are not being truthful or honorable and you know it. You are threatening me and you are insinuating a load of dishonorable things about me dishonorably. I have nothing more to say to you or your "possy" who's got their panties in a wad that a girl actually dares to speak a truth that happens to annoy them. I didn't ask for this DRAMA and all these accusations from you or your posse. I didn't complain about you or your product. I just asked for a recommendation. My post last week just stated that I needed a simple reommendation on other products people are using. Nothing more ! You act like I attacked your manhood ! If this is what happens to anyone who DARES to say that your generator isn't working well, no wonder you have to ask ME for the names of the people unhappy with what you're selling ! If you really want to hear from people directly, consider following your own advice and open your mind to the possibility that your product is FAULTY instead of taking the easy way out and blaming the user. "If I insist that the root of a problem lies where it doesn't, I'll NEVER solve the problem." I asked you for an address to return your unit, days ago. Never got it. Don't care to deal with all your hassle about it anymore for a measly hundred bucks. I'm getting my new generator and have enough people on this list who've contacted me off-line and offered to help right now as well as once I get going again with the new generator. So, I'm all set and grateful for all the help and humor shared with me by so many wonderful people on this list! Signing off. Angel - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 5:54 AM Subject: Re: CS>better generator? Hey If the silver is coming off the electrodes, there's no way in the world it's not going into the water. If there is current flowing between the electrodes, it has to make silver ions to do it. Since the LED is hooked up in series with the electrodes in a silverpuppy and SHOWS that ions are entering the water which it must do for current to flow, if that LED is lit, it MUST be making ions in that water. If the LED isn't lit up, there's no way the electrodes will erode. There's just no way around that. If the LED lights up and the electrodes DON'T go away, that could be due to water inside the generator. [Which will eventually kill the generator] That current is going somewhere. If the LED lights up when the electrodes AREN'T in the water, the generator is full of water and we'll go from there. Either your "problem" is in the way you measure the PPM. Or where the silver *wound up* after it entered the water. It's there somewhere ! If the bottom of the generator is all silvery, that's where it went and where it will continue to go because the container was repeatedly filled too full and the *operator* shorted the process out. In all such cases, it's operator error of the machine, or the instruments. Have these "other people" contact me. Those who have, received satisfaction. I'll fix any machine that's really broken, regardless of reason, or lack there-of...but sending in a machine that's not really broken is absolutely pointless. 98 times out of a hundred, it's the operator that needs the trouble shooting. Another 1.98% is a broken machine because the operator didn't get the troubleshooting soon enough. .02% is plain old *out of the blue* failure of some part. It doesn't matter which...I'll fix whatever CAN be fixed. I can't fix a persons head without their co-operation. Believe this: There is no limit to perceptual error and resulting logical error. I've had more than one person call and ask why a spot of paint no longer lights up. [If you ever really DID see that spot of paint light up, tell me how you got it to. I'll share the riches! ] One even saw the red LED light up several times when the first thing they did was to put the power supply in their junk drawer. There was no red LED on that machine. [It was yellow and can't light up unless you plug something in] Even the smartest people can do incredibly idiotic things and never even consider that they are being the idiots. Everyone does it now and then, myself not excepted. That's human nature. I don't know who said this but it's true enough. "Nothing is foolproof to the sufficiently talented fool." I know this from experience: If I insist that the root of a problem lies where it doesn't, I'll NEVER solve the problem. The very first place to look is how the problem is being perceived because perception is the least reliable element in any problem. "It can't be this because I can't be that stupid" ? Forget that. It never works. ANYBODY can be that stupid. Denying it never helps. Saying that "other people" have made the same errors doesn't make them not be errors. What is far more likely is that those people discovered that they w
CS>Re: better generator?
I'm not sure I understand. What do you mean with that statement? Angel - Original Message - From: "Dan Nave" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:33 PM Subject: CS>Re: FW: CS>better generator? Save your money Angle, if you can't get the SilverPuppy to work, you won't have any better time with any other unit... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>better generator?
Yes, other people are having the same problem as I am. Well, I can't say it's the same "problem" but I can say they are having the same issues with the results, as I am. I had about 26-28 responses to my first posting a few weeks ago and this last one a few days ago, all from very helpful people. About 10-12 of them said they couldn't tell me why it wasn't working, because it wasn't working for them either. Some of them said that it HAD worked for a few months, but after that, no matter how long they let the generator run, it never produced ppm higher than mine does. Most of them seemed smarter than I am however, since they stopped trying. They realized all they were doing was wearing down their silver rods. I guess I'm too optimistic, every dang batch I made I kept hoping that THIS time it will work ! And sure enough, my silver rods are way skinnier than they should be based on how very few batches I've done since I got this thing. Some of them said that they didn't bother posting any questions about it because it seems the responses to problems are always stating and advising the obvious. My personal experience hasn't been that this list's posts and responses as "restating the obvious," on the contrary, I've found them very helpful and I'm grateful for them. But perhaps that is because I'm still a relative beginner at this stuff. Thanks for your offer of free repair, but we already did that once without any improvement. What other generators are all the list members using? Angel - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: Re: CS>better generator? What other people are having problems? So far as I know, you are the only one. If you think it's not working right, send it to me for free repairs. ode At 03:11 PM 9/18/2006 -0700, you wrote: Hi all, A few weeks ago I posted asking for advice on how to get my Silver Puppy to work properly. Although I had dozens of responses (thank you to all !!! ), we were not able to get it working properly. It seems about half of the people had the same problem with theirs (not being able to make anything higher than 3-4ppm) but didn't care too much since 3-4 ppms is enough for their needs. I want higher ppms and this was one of the reasons I chos the Silver Puppy, but since the Silver Puppy isn't able to produce that, I'm asking for recommendations on other brands/units that are more reliable in producing specific ppms. Would you more experienced and more knowledgable silverists please advise on what I should consider getting? Grateful, Angel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/450 - Release Date: 9/18/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/450 - Release Date: 9/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/450 - Release Date: 9/18/2006
CS>better generator?
Hi all, A few weeks ago I posted asking for advice on how to get my Silver Puppy to work properly. Although I had dozens of responses (thank you to all !!! ), we were not able to get it working properly. It seems about half of the people had the same problem with theirs (not being able to make anything higher than 3-4ppm) but didn't care too much since 3-4 ppms is enough for their needs. I want higher ppms and this was one of the reasons I chos the Silver Puppy, but since the Silver Puppy isn't able to produce that, I'm asking for recommendations on other brands/units that are more reliable in producing specific ppms. Would you more experienced and more knowledgable silverists please advise on what I should consider getting? Grateful, Angel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>AG Deodorant-Lavilin
There is a german baby buns lotion called "bebe" that my mom has been using as deodorant/antiperspirant for decades. I never knew why it worked so well until I read these few posts from y'all and ran to my toiletries cabinet to check and sure enough ! First ingredient listed is Zink ! What about the safety of using this considering the safe upper limits being stated to be only 15mg/per day. What do you all think? How great is the risk of Copper depletion/blocking due to high/higher Zink intake? I'm sure y'all have considered this carefully. Just wondering how you determined it was safe? Thanks, Angel - Original Message - From: Dennis Gulenchin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>AG Deodorant-Lavilin Hi, I have been using a product called lavilin for years, and it works just as you describe how your Z.O. ointment works, Julie. During the winter months it could last for between 2-3 weeks but during heavy prespiration in the summer I have to apply it every 2-3 days.Lavilin Arm Deodorant, 12.5 grams What brand of ointment do you buy and where can one get it? I never thought of trying a plain zinc oxide ointment but it should be cheaper than the "lavilin" thats sold specificly for underarm use. Dennis julie martin wrote: our family uses zinc oxide ointment in place of commercial deodorants. after a shower we dry, spritz with cs and then apply a thin layer of the zinc.
CS>Re: SilverPuppy ineffective ?
I would like strong brews for cleaning purposes and also I learned that stronger brews are effective in treating worms & parasites (mainly in pets) and perhaps even heartworm. I know I can buy the higher ppm liquids but it's just frustrating that the product I bought to produce it myself actually doesn't work like it's supposed to ! I tested the ppms with a tds meter I got from where ever it was I ordered the Silver Puppy. Has anyone on this list produced CS of higher ppms than 10-20? What's the highest ppm you've succeeded in making with it? Thanks, Angel From: ODE will stand behind it 100%. Why do you need something stronger than 14ppm? How have you tested your PPM? TJ From: Hello all, I've had the Silver Puppy for about a year and a half and have never been able to make CS stronger than 14ppms. It turns off after about 4 hours and instructions said that it turns off at 20ppms, but that is totally untrue. When it turns off, my TDS meter shows "4." If I switch over to manual mode and turn it back on for 2-4-6-10 hours it NEVER goes above 7ppms however many hours i run it. I'm really unhappy with this thing, I've already replaced it once because it just stopped working all together but it still just doesn't work as it was represented. Has anyone any thoughts on this? Is there something I'm doing wrong or missing? If this is how it is, I'm getting another type of unit. What would be your recommendations? Thank you, Angel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SilverPuppy and Colloidal Copper
Hello all, I've had the Silver Puppy for about a year and a half and have never been able to make CS stronger than 14ppms. It turns off after about 4 hours and instructions said that it turns off at 20ppms, but that is totally untrue. When it turns off, my TDS meter shows "4." If I switch over to manual mode and turn it back on for 2-4-6-10 hours it NEVER goes above 7ppms however many hours i run it. I'm really unhappy with this thing, I've already replaced it once because it just stopped working all together but it still just doesn't work as it was represented. Has anyone any thoughts on this? Is there something I'm doing wrong or missing? If this is how it is, I'm getting another type of unit. What would be your recommendations? Thank you, Angel
CS>Re: fluoride filter
Would anyone by chance know of a water filter that removes fluoride? many thanks, angel > Mary, Brooks -- > > One thing to look for in a cartridge water filter is its ability > to remove 100% of the arsenic. One patented cartridge filter can > do that. > > http://codebluewater.com > > I've got a whole page on this topic on my site, with links. > > Arsenic is a recognized cause of cancer and diabetes. Disease...
Re: CS>Re: Re: CS>Planter Fasciitis (heel pain)
please share which "cleanse" you did for 10 days ! my mom is suffering terribly with zero help/advice from the doctors. thanks, angel - Original Message - From: "G & K Murray" I was at the point I could not walk and when I did it was on the sides of my feet to get off the heel area. It only took a ten day cleanse to have the pain go away completely. Definition of Heel Spurs The heel spur (or calcaneal spur) is a nail-like growth of calcium around the ligaments and tendons of the foot where they attach to the heel bone. The spur grows from the bone and into the flesh of the foot. http://www.healthscout.com/ency/68/224/main.html http://www.foot.com/info/cond_heel_spurs.jsp http://www.ourfootdoctor.com/yourfeet_plantarfasciitis.shtml http://www.footlevelers.com/conditions/heel_spurs.php G Murray -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Tick and Disease
Pat, how about the "zappers" that are supposed to kill all kinds of bad stuff in our blood, such as parasites, cancer cells, and lots of other things i can't think of at the moment. i read a story about some farming community where all the farmers cured themselves of lyme disease after one of them accidentally touched his electric fence and found out he had no more of the lyme-thing in his blood. i've just joined the "zapper" list to learn more myself because all i've ever heard about it for years now was positive stuff. this is one of the groups i joined for this : microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com best of luck, angel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>This man's best freind - why low red blood cells?
oh dave, i'm so sorry to read about your little dog... don't give up on him, please ! not before you've found out what the real problem is. i'm a member of a lot of animal health groups and will be happy to help you get advice from all of them, once you find out what the underlying problem is. how old is your pooch? when did he first exhibit uncommon symptoms? what were the symptoms? what kind of diet is/was he on? did he get any vaccinations around the time he exhibited first symptoms ? did anything else uncommon occur around that time? what kind of dog is he? how is he now? is he on any meds now? how are you treating him right now? is he getting better/worse/same? i would so love to help you not give up on him. but need more info from you first. the above is a good start and anything else you can think of. feel free to email me off list, if you wish. angel They told me my dog's red blood count is so poor he should be comatose.( he nearly is)and they want to give him a blood transfusion, then fluid therapy with ringers lactate and prednisone for a number of months to the tune of $1,136.95 I love him very much but can't justify the expense on a $550.00 Pr. month income especially when they say that the likeliness of his survival is in question. Do dogs have blood typing like humans? The reason I asked is they had a dog there that they would use as a donor without any thought of blood type. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Dirty Dryers
thanks mike ! man! what an ordeal you've been dealing with! good thing that at least you seem to somewhat enjoy this mechanical process and are resourceful and inventive enough to move through obstacles you run into. i'm thoroughly impressed and send you way-way-way-well deserved blessings for reaching your objective. soon ! thanks for the detail. it was fascinating. but a bit intimidating, i must admit. i think i'll continue to hang out my laundry on my clothing line, to the continued huge chagrin of my shi-shi-la-la neighbors. angel Hi angel, This is a very long subject, very difficult to describe without pictures of the inside of a dryer. Basically, I had access to the junkyard of a local appliance store. I brought derelict washers and dryers over on my dolly and upstairs to my apartment. My landlord didn't like this and threatenened to evict me on several occasions, but he needed me to fix the machines in his store, laundry, and around the building, so he eventually relented. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>cs and boron (to zeb)
Mike, so, how DID you redesign your dryer to fix this problem? i'd love to do it too! please tell... angel Thanks. I've already tried various concoctions, including proprionic acid. They have no effect. Even if they did, part of the problem is fresh spores brought in while drying the clothes. As Trem points out discussion bubbling cs, there is a high concentration of spores even in so-called clean air. They are everywhere and unavoidable. BTW, it has taken me two years to learn how to redesign my dryer so it doesn't spew clothes lint everywhere inside and out. These things are terrible sources of the invisible dust and lint that invades your home Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>cs and boron (to zeb)
i mean dutch (from netherlands/holland) or flemmish (from belgium) angel - Original Message - From: toreadpeoplehealthi...@gmail.com To: Marshall Dudley ; silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: angelzn...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 3:00 PM Subject: Re: CS>cs and boron (to zeb) the language is either dutch or belgian. angel - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Re: CS>cs and boron (to zeb) You can go to http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en and enter the web site address for the url, and they will translate it for you. However you need to know what the original language is, and I tried several and was unable to find out what it is.
