Re: CS, Lyme List versus Marsha

2000-06-04 Thread Alvin Rose



Hi Wayne.
I am wondering if you can tell the list where you got
the information that "Silver can poison the liver and kidneys
if vitamin E is not present" If it's on the internet can you
please give us the URL...As you're new to the list
It might be an idea for you to go back and read some of the
earlier list archives in which you may find some of the answers
you're looking for.
ARose
Wayne Mosley wrote:

hi marsha,

I am new here but am learning alot since I started doing my own research
on the medline. At first I got no hits (articles). Then I changed my
tactics. I used silver and nutrition and came up with 95 articles.
Several are not available in abstract form but are there at the
universities and can be ordered. I found out that silver can poison the
liver and kidneys if vitamin E is not present. Practical stuff like
that as well as Copper blocks some of those toxic effects and is also
better than silver as an anti plaque medication and had the added
benefit of being an essential nutrient. I am still trying to find out
if and how much silver is recognized as an essential micronutrient. Can
anyone here answer that? Also if silver can be "classified" as a
nutrient then the NIH (national institutes of health) can award a grant
for research studies on its value for treating various conditions. If
some of the side benefits turn out to be antiviral, antibacterial as
well then thats another issue and I believe falls under a different
category, BUT a few emails should find out. I'll let you guys now.
Please take glutathione peroxidase in a few substances like schizandra
berries, beets and others but the point is that the body can synthesize
it from glutathione and selenium. The body has a genetic functionality
which requires selenium as part of its antioxidant defense mechanisms.
Vitamine E is just one such antioxidant. The better one of late is
alpha lipoic acid (potatoes and others) which is involved with the Krebs
energy cycle of the cell. It keeps the other antioxidants in a ready
state to do their job. Now, if anyone wants to pursue this line of
reasoning please contact me as I have contact with the NIH. It is a sad
day people give up hopes. I am glad that this is working for you. What
concentration do you use? I have a friend that will be very
interested...

thanks
wayne














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CS, Lyme List versus Marsha

2000-06-03 Thread Marsha Hallett
Dear Listers, here`s what I`ve been getting today, the NICE post! It seems
no one wants me to help others to get well, go figure...
Marsha

 Marsha,
I agree about the language you are using.  I have met people
 who have TRIED CS and it DID NOT WORK for them.  I have also met
 people who is HAS worked for.  PLEASE modify your statements
 re: a cure for Lyme disease.  Newbies in theis forum have
 ENOUGH to deal with without a flame war.  You certainly have the
 right to post whereever you want and I *am* glad that you are
 spreading the word about CS because it may indeed help SOME
 people.  HOwever, the phrase a cure for Lyme disease IS NOT
 TRUE.  I WISH it was- but I have already, in my short time in
 the lyme community met others who it did NOT WORK FOR.  I
 wholeheartedly support your right to free speech- but you are
 repeating a very powerful phrase which promises something it
 DOES NOT deliver to all Lymekins.  It is simply NOT TRUE that it
 works for everyone. I am glad it worked for you- but please
 don't promise it will work for everyone.  It already HASN'T!
  Sarah

Dear Sarah,
 Are you sure they took real Colloidal Silver, and not some stuff bought in
a bottle that may not have had  enough silver in it, or perhaps was too old?
(A fellow on the Silverlist tested some storebought CS and found it was
water with yellow dye in it...)
 CS has to be made right, and strong enough, to get at all the Bbs hiding
inside the cells.
 I really think CS can do the trick if done properly.
Marsha
(by the way, there`s no need to shout...)






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Re: CS, Lyme List versus Marsha

2000-06-03 Thread Wayne Mosley
hi marsha, 

I am new here but am learning alot since I started doing my own research
on the medline.  At first I got no hits (articles).  Then I changed my
tactics.  I used silver and nutrition and came up with 95 articles.
Several are not available in abstract form but are there at the
universities and can be ordered.  I found out that silver can poison the
liver and kidneys if vitamin E is not present.  Practical stuff like
that as well as Copper blocks some of those toxic effects and is also
better than silver as an anti plaque medication and had the added
benefit of being an essential nutrient.  I am still trying to find out
if and how much silver is recognized as an essential micronutrient.  Can
anyone here answer that?  Also if silver can be classified as a
nutrient then the NIH (national institutes of health) can award a grant
for research studies on its value for treating various conditions.  If
some of the side benefits turn out to be antiviral, antibacterial as
well then thats another issue and I believe falls under a different
category, BUT a few emails should find out.   I'll let you guys now.
Please take glutathione peroxidase in a few substances like schizandra
berries, beets and others but the point is that the body can synthesize
it from glutathione and selenium.  The body has a genetic functionality
which requires selenium as part of its antioxidant defense mechanisms.
Vitamine E is just one such antioxidant.  The better one of late is
alpha lipoic acid (potatoes and others) which is involved with the Krebs
energy cycle of the cell.  It keeps the other antioxidants in a ready
state to do their job.  Now, if anyone wants to pursue this line of
reasoning please contact me as I have contact with the NIH.  It is a sad
day people give up hopes.  I am glad that this is working for you.  What
concentration do you use?  I have a friend that will be very
interested...  

thanks
wayne










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Re: CS, Lyme List versus Marsha

2000-06-03 Thread Ritz3131


Hi Marsha,
What lyme list(s) are you on?  which do you find to be the most helpful in 
terms of info. and treatment info.?  I forget, what ppm did you use...was it 
10ppm?  Do you still use it?

Also, you or anyone know any lyme literate docs in the St. Louis, MO area?

Thanks,

Christy

In a message dated 6/3/00 9:12:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
liah...@pacbell.net writes:

 I really think CS can do the trick if done properly.
 Marsha
 (by the way, there`s no need to shout...)
 
  


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