Re: CS>3 stage disease

[hanan bissar]

Ok genius... exactly what are "antibodies"?

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 6:07 PM Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:

> They who? Minerals are not antibodies you goof.
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 7:21 PM hanan bissar  wrote:
>
>> And Max, you seem to have missed the point that they have never shown
>> proof of discovery of a "Sars CoV-2" virus...or any "virus" capable of
>> causing infection or disease.
>>
>> If I'm mistaken, please present the actual evidence here.
>>
>> I do believe there are pathogens which can cause all sorts of disease in
>> our bodies if we do not keep our "immune systems" up to speed.
>>
>> My current research and questions, which follow along with other research
>> and questions I've posted here, which no one seems to take much interest
>> in...is to try and find out exactly what these "antibodies" are that are
>> spoken of so frequently and to be of such great importance in our
>> "immune system".
>>
>> Today I looked a bit more into "antigens"...they are just "foreign
>> proteins". So if "antibodies" are magically created in our bodies to fight
>> off proteins, are "antibodies" created everytime we eat?
>>
>> I know for fact that both zinc and silver disable pathogens in the human
>> body.
>>
>> I wonder if all these "antibodies" are just minerals that we naturally
>> consume in our diets.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 10:44 AM Max  wrote:
>>
>>> Hanan you seem to have missed the simple point that there are two more
>>> stages, the inflammatory and the clotting stage.  According to doctors the
>>> fall into hyper inflammation and serious outcomes can be sudden and
>>> precipitous.  Your protocol is missing two ingredients that could save
>>> someones life. You didnt even mention quercetin.  By the time you reach for
>>> silver to kill a virus you wont need it.   Thats about a week in to a month
>>> long potentially killer experience
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/5/2021 2:52 AM, hanan bissar wrote:
>>>
>>> Take ~30 mg zinc daily. If you do come down with a boogie bug (cuz you
>>> have lapsed in your daily zinc intake) then nebulizer silver.
>>>
>>> Real simple.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 4:23 PM Max  wrote:
>>>
  From Cyndianns excellent link

 "As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during
 the early inflammatory  phase  are  driven  by  host immune  responses
 rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence  factors,
 there  is  support  for  trials  and re-search  exploring  the  role
 of  different  immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "

 With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and
 vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a
 therapy.
 The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused by
 the
 virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of
 antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper.  What is needed are
 immunomodulatory therapies.  The vaccine is not a therapy here and is
 not permitted in patients at this stage.   Immunomodulatory therapy
 includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting,
 budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe antihistamines.

 As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively suppressed, a
 criminal action just to boost sales of the injections.   She also
 pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on
 doctor
 prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced
 versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made during
 the
 pandemic.  The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on
 his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed
 program and gotten ivermectin for everybody.The failure of the
 vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport
 unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges
 regardless of vaccine status.

 Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together like
 this.  Thanks Cyndiann!

 Kind regards
 Max



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Re: CS>3 stage disease

[Cyndiann Phillips]

They who? Minerals are not antibodies you goof.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 7:21 PM hanan bissar  wrote:

> And Max, you seem to have missed the point that they have never shown
> proof of discovery of a "Sars CoV-2" virus...or any "virus" capable of
> causing infection or disease.
>
> If I'm mistaken, please present the actual evidence here.
>
> I do believe there are pathogens which can cause all sorts of disease in
> our bodies if we do not keep our "immune systems" up to speed.
>
> My current research and questions, which follow along with other research
> and questions I've posted here, which no one seems to take much interest
> in...is to try and find out exactly what these "antibodies" are that are
> spoken of so frequently and to be of such great importance in our
> "immune system".
>
> Today I looked a bit more into "antigens"...they are just "foreign
> proteins". So if "antibodies" are magically created in our bodies to fight
> off proteins, are "antibodies" created everytime we eat?
>
> I know for fact that both zinc and silver disable pathogens in the human
> body.
>
> I wonder if all these "antibodies" are just minerals that we naturally
> consume in our diets.
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 10:44 AM Max  wrote:
>
>> Hanan you seem to have missed the simple point that there are two more
>> stages, the inflammatory and the clotting stage.  According to doctors the
>> fall into hyper inflammation and serious outcomes can be sudden and
>> precipitous.  Your protocol is missing two ingredients that could save
>> someones life. You didnt even mention quercetin.  By the time you reach for
>> silver to kill a virus you wont need it.   Thats about a week in to a month
>> long potentially killer experience
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/2021 2:52 AM, hanan bissar wrote:
>>
>> Take ~30 mg zinc daily. If you do come down with a boogie bug (cuz you
>> have lapsed in your daily zinc intake) then nebulizer silver.
>>
>> Real simple.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 4:23 PM Max  wrote:
>>
>>>  From Cyndianns excellent link
>>>
>>> "As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during
>>> the early inflammatory  phase  are  driven  by  host immune  responses
>>> rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence  factors,
>>> there  is  support  for  trials  and re-search  exploring  the  role
>>> of  different  immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "
>>>
>>> With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and
>>> vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a therapy.
>>> The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused by the
>>> virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of
>>> antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper.  What is needed are
>>> immunomodulatory therapies.  The vaccine is not a therapy here and is
>>> not permitted in patients at this stage.   Immunomodulatory therapy
>>> includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting,
>>> budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe antihistamines.
>>>
>>> As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively suppressed, a
>>> criminal action just to boost sales of the injections.   She also
>>> pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on doctor
>>> prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced
>>> versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made during the
>>> pandemic.  The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on
>>> his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed
>>> program and gotten ivermectin for everybody.The failure of the
>>> vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport
>>> unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges
>>> regardless of vaccine status.
>>>
>>> Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together like
>>> this.  Thanks Cyndiann!
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: CS>3 stage disease

[hanan bissar]

And Max, you seem to have missed the point that they have never shown proof
of discovery of a "Sars CoV-2" virus...or any "virus" capable of causing
infection or disease.

If I'm mistaken, please present the actual evidence here.

I do believe there are pathogens which can cause all sorts of disease in
our bodies if we do not keep our "immune systems" up to speed.

My current research and questions, which follow along with other research
and questions I've posted here, which no one seems to take much interest
in...is to try and find out exactly what these "antibodies" are that are
spoken of so frequently and to be of such great importance in our
"immune system".

Today I looked a bit more into "antigens"...they are just "foreign
proteins". So if "antibodies" are magically created in our bodies to fight
off proteins, are "antibodies" created everytime we eat?

I know for fact that both zinc and silver disable pathogens in the human
body.

I wonder if all these "antibodies" are just minerals that we naturally
consume in our diets.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 10:44 AM Max  wrote:

> Hanan you seem to have missed the simple point that there are two more
> stages, the inflammatory and the clotting stage.  According to doctors the
> fall into hyper inflammation and serious outcomes can be sudden and
> precipitous.  Your protocol is missing two ingredients that could save
> someones life. You didnt even mention quercetin.  By the time you reach for
> silver to kill a virus you wont need it.   Thats about a week in to a month
> long potentially killer experience
>
>
> On 10/5/2021 2:52 AM, hanan bissar wrote:
>
> Take ~30 mg zinc daily. If you do come down with a boogie bug (cuz you
> have lapsed in your daily zinc intake) then nebulizer silver.
>
> Real simple.
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 4:23 PM Max  wrote:
>
>>  From Cyndianns excellent link
>>
>> "As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during
>> the early inflammatory  phase  are  driven  by  host immune  responses
>> rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence  factors,
>> there  is  support  for  trials  and re-search  exploring  the  role
>> of  different  immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "
>>
>> With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and
>> vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a therapy.
>> The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused by the
>> virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of
>> antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper.  What is needed are
>> immunomodulatory therapies.  The vaccine is not a therapy here and is
>> not permitted in patients at this stage.   Immunomodulatory therapy
>> includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting,
>> budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe antihistamines.
>>
>> As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively suppressed, a
>> criminal action just to boost sales of the injections.   She also
>> pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on doctor
>> prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced
>> versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made during the
>> pandemic.  The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on
>> his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed
>> program and gotten ivermectin for everybody.The failure of the
>> vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport
>> unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges
>> regardless of vaccine status.
>>
>> Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together like
>> this.  Thanks Cyndiann!
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Max
>>
>>
>>
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Re: CS>3 stage disease

[Max]

Hanan you seem to have missed the simple point that there are two more 
stages, the inflammatory and the clotting stage.  According to doctors 
the fall into hyper inflammation and serious outcomes can be sudden and 
precipitous.  Your protocol is missing two ingredients that could save 
someones life. You didnt even mention quercetin.  By the time you reach 
for silver to kill a virus you wont need it.   Thats about a week in to 
a month long potentially killer experience



On 10/5/2021 2:52 AM, hanan bissar wrote:
Take ~30 mg zinc daily. If you do come down with a boogie bug (cuz you 
have lapsed in your daily zinc intake) then nebulizer silver.


Real simple.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 4:23 PM Max > wrote:


 From Cyndianns excellent link

"As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during
the early inflammatory  phase  are  driven  by  host immune responses
rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence factors,
there  is  support  for  trials  and re-search  exploring the  role
of  different  immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "

With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and
vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a
therapy.
The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused
by the
virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of
antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper.  What is needed
are
immunomodulatory therapies.  The vaccine is not a therapy here and is
not permitted in patients at this stage.   Immunomodulatory therapy
includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting,
budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe
antihistamines.

As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively
suppressed, a
criminal action just to boost sales of the injections.   She also
pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on
doctor
prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced
versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made
during the
pandemic.  The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on
his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed
program and gotten ivermectin for everybody.    The failure of the
vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport
unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges
regardless of vaccine status.

Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together
like
this.  Thanks Cyndiann!

Kind regards
Max



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Re: CS>3 stage disease

[hanan bissar]

Take ~30 mg zinc daily. If you do come down with a boogie bug (cuz you have
lapsed in your daily zinc intake) then nebulizer silver.

Real simple.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 4:23 PM Max  wrote:

>  From Cyndianns excellent link
>
> "As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during
> the early inflammatory  phase  are  driven  by  host immune  responses
> rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence  factors,
> there  is  support  for  trials  and re-search  exploring  the  role
> of  different  immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "
>
> With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and
> vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a therapy.
> The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused by the
> virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of
> antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper.  What is needed are
> immunomodulatory therapies.  The vaccine is not a therapy here and is
> not permitted in patients at this stage.   Immunomodulatory therapy
> includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting,
> budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe antihistamines.
>
> As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively suppressed, a
> criminal action just to boost sales of the injections.   She also
> pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on doctor
> prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced
> versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made during the
> pandemic.  The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on
> his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed
> program and gotten ivermectin for everybody.The failure of the
> vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport
> unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges
> regardless of vaccine status.
>
> Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together like
> this.  Thanks Cyndiann!
>
> Kind regards
> Max
>
>
>
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Re: CS>3 stage disease

[Max]

From Cyndianns excellent link

"As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during  
the early inflammatory  phase  are  driven  by  host immune  responses 
rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence  factors,  
there  is  support  for  trials  and re-search  exploring  the  role  
of  different  immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "


With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and 
vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a therapy.  
The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused by the 
virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of 
antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper.  What is needed are 
immunomodulatory therapies.  The vaccine is not a therapy here and is 
not permitted in patients at this stage.   Immunomodulatory therapy 
includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting, 
budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe antihistamines.


As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively suppressed, a 
criminal action just to boost sales of the injections.   She also 
pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on doctor 
prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced 
versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made during the 
pandemic.  The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on 
his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed 
program and gotten ivermectin for everybody.    The failure of the 
vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport 
unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges 
regardless of vaccine status.


Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together like 
this.  Thanks Cyndiann!


Kind regards
Max



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Re: CS>3 stage disease

[Linda Ellis]

Max you are amazing!  Thank you so much for taking this all on.  I so look 
forward to your essays!

From: "Max" mgperra...@aol.com
Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2021 6:23 pm
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS3 stage disease
 From Cyndianns excellent link

"As there is growing evidence that the manifestations evident during
the early inflammatory phase are driven by host immune responses
rather than ongoing viral replication or viral virulence factors,
there is support for trials and re-search exploring the role
of different immunomodulatory therapies at this stage. "

With this link Cyndiann is at once undermining the vaccine push and
vindicating her injunction that we shouldnt call the vaccine a therapy.
The cause of the severe or dangerous phase of covid is not caused by the
virus or viral virulence factors, nor is it caused by a lack of
antibodies, as made clear in her referenced paper. What is needed are
immunomodulatory therapies. The vaccine is not a therapy here and is
not permitted in patients at this stage. Immunomodulatory therapy
includes sunshine, walking if possible, a good clean diet or fasting,
budesonide and ivermectin, herbs like licorice and maybe antihistamines.

As Cyndiann has pointed out, ivermectin is being actively suppressed, a
criminal action just to boost sales of the injections. She also
pointed out that the entire expenditure of the U.S. population on doctor
prescriptions for ivermectin, which are not needed, and overpriced
versions of the drug is half of what one man, bill Gates made during the
pandemic. The CEO of Pfizer could have bought everyone ivermectin on
his vax profits. Trump could have taking 1/1000 of his warp speed
program and gotten ivermectin for everybody. The failure of the
vaccine is illustrated by Israel which has cancelled the vax passport
unless you have booster shots, while the epidemic ebs and surges
regardless of vaccine status.

Exposing these uber criminal acts is easier when we work together like
this. Thanks Cyndiann!

Kind regards
Max



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Re: CS>3 stage disease

[Max]

Bang on Cyndiann!

I usually say its a two stage disease, sometimes I say three stage.  
They subdivide into five stages.   Five stages is hard to remember,  do 
you remember the five stages?  "the  Pre-Exposure Period,  the  
Incubation  Period,  the Detectable Viral Replication Period, the Viral 
Symptom  Phase,  the  Early Inflammatory  Phase,  the  Secondary 
Infection Phase, the Multisystem Inflammatory  Phase,  and  the  Tail  
Phase. "  They subdivide the inflammatory stage into two or three parts 
and add the pre infection and post disease stage or long hauler stage. 
To understand covid as a disease, the two phase model is very helpful, 
i.e. the viral replication phase and the hyperinflammation phase.


So its very informative to refer to their figures one and three.   See 
they have divided it into two main  phases.  The viral stage and the 
inflammatory phase.  This is very important to understand the disease 
and this undermines the mainstream narrative and most peoples conception 
of covid.  It shows that everyone is immune in that they all develop 
antibodies regardless of vaccine status.  The deadly phase, which is the 
hyperinflammatory phase is not driven by lack of antibodies but a 
multitude of factors which could all be classed as "ill health and old age"


Importantly, they add the pre exposure period and the co infection 
period.  Its important to realize that the co infection is likely 
undercounted.  Co infections may contribute significantly to the hyper 
inflammatory phase.  I suspected this even before knowing the phases by 
the septic action, suggesting endotoxin reactions.


Now going to the beginning, this is important. They say about the pre 
exposure period;


"The  Pre-Exposure  Period  represents  the  target  for vaccination 
(active and passive) and the ideal time for... prophylactic medications 
with very low risk of adverse effects. Available evidence would suggest 
that this... the time that vitamin D, zinc, targeting ideal  body  
weight,  smoking cessation,  and  other  routine health measures might 
have a role. "  In other words,  get healthy, boost your vitamins, get 
sunshine and fresh air, keep your nose clean.


Now to the viral stage, the graphic of figure three says it all. The 
virus is overcome, even in the unvaccinated, and is not the cause of 
death.   They say "The RNA copy number decreases to below an 
infec-tious  level  by  day  10  in  most  patients"    Ive been saying 
about a week because you probably dont start to feel symptoms right 
away.  So after about a week of symptoms, they you need to work on anti 
inflammation and you can forget about the virus.  You are no longer 
infectious.


" the  period  of  virus  viability  ap-pears  to  be  limited and  
quantitative  RNA  detection  does not necessarily indicate 
infectiousness. Detection of sub-genomic RNA, indicative of replicative 
interme-diates of the virus, within the 1st 8 days after onset of 
symptoms  in  patients  with  mild  disease,  and in  vitro culture of 
live virus no later than day 9 "   So they cant culture live virus after 
nine days.  Bodies were laying on the street in equador because they 
were afraid to touch them for fear of infection.  Those fears were 
unfounded as we know now.


So now we are into phase two, the hyper inflammatory period, which they 
subdivide into early and late inflammatory periods with a secondary or 
co infection phase and the long haul phase, which by the way does not 
happen to everyone.  All diseases have some sequela.   Its important to 
look at the graph.  See that the antibodies  IgG and IgM are ramping up 
in everyone as you become non infectious.  The antibodies may not 
contribute much to inflammation, but nor are they lacking.  Isnt this 
the rational for vaccination...that nobody is immune and that you need 
antibodies?  The covid victims all had antibodies.    It seems a little 
redundant to subdivide into an early and late inflammatory stage. But 
they insert a co infection stage and this may be very important.   They say


"The Secondary Infection Phase starts at TSI (Time of secondary 
infection) and is characterized by a period during  which bacteremia,  
fungemia,  pneumonia,  and  other  secondary bacterial  infections  
occur  at  an  in-creased incidence. This appears to be a characteristic 
feature of the disease process and does not only occur in  patients  
having  undergone  treatment"


This is where antibacterial herbs and silver can be useful.  You arent 
trying to kill the virus, you are trying to reduce secondary infections 
which lead to hyperinflammation, which is the killer.


"The  Multisystem  Inflammatory  Phase ...is  char-acterized by peak 
levels of IgG, secondary infections, and  many manifestations  that  
are  suspected  to  be  secondary to autoimmune phenomena"


Inflammation is autoimmunity in a sense.  Your immune system is killing 
your own tissues in a missguided attempt to kill invaders.  Part 

Re: CS>3 stage disease

[Cyndiann Phillips]

The real 3 stages.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33556957/

Somebody had to add the truth.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 4:24 PM Max  wrote:

> I found out that covid is a two or three stage disease in about april of
> 2020 by reading papers on pubmed.  This is the pivotal knowledge.  It was
> known way back then that the viral stage is over in about a week, that
> everyone, including the ones who go on to die have plenty of antibodies,
> that the severe and mortal stages of the disease are driven by a
> disregulated immune response, that the patients are no longer infectious.
> This means that antibodies are not the answer to severe covid.
>
> The vaccines are useless for people already in the hospital. Everyone will
> develop immunity...which is opposite to the tale that nobody is immune to
> this novel virus and you will die without a vaccine.  The immune system is
> working, we are immune. Its false to say nobody is immune.Many, and
> maybe everyone has some level of cross immunity from prior infections.
>
> This knowledge that covid is a three stage disease is paramount to
> understanding how to treat it,  and has huge implications for all of the
> political features we see, like the vaccination push, the lockdowns, the
> young, passports etc.   Its key, but nobody sees it.  Its like a mass
> blindness, even among experts.
>
> The young who do not die dont have more antibodies than the old who do
> die.  Healthy people will disable the virus in their nose and lung
> mucosa.   The nature of our mucosa is important as the viral intrusion and
> replication is pH dependent.  Many people have thick, unhealthy mucosa due
> to diet and air pollution.This front line of immunity, the IgA and
> killer cells and all the extremely complicated action going on is key to
> keep the virus from getting everywhere in the body.   Building antibodies
> in the blood stream by injections of any kind is not right on basic
> principles.   If the virus invades the front lines of defense, its a sign
> the patient is already compromised.  But even with the invasion, everyone
> disables the virus.
>
> Thats the first, non deadly stage.   The second stage is the
> hyperinflammatory stage.   Antibodies are not a cure for
> hyperinflammation.  For this reason, I predicted a year ago that the
> vaccines would not decrease all cause mortality.  How could they, when the
> causes of severe covid, the second and third stage, are multifactoral?
> People die because they are not healthy, not because they lack
> antibodies.   The only cure for covid is to get healthy.  For the older
> people who inevitably have hugely diminished thymus and bone marrow
> functions, damping the inflammatory response by exogenous agents may be
> required.
>
> The third stage is blood clotting.  The clotting factors may be quite
> complicated.  The spike protein itself,  reproduced by the mRNA vaccines,
> appears to be thrombotic.  Thus the vaccines duplicated the parthenogenesis
> or etiology of covid, while not assisting the front lines of defense.  (a
> small impact on IgA antibodies has been detected from the vaccines, to be
> fair)  This seems obvious, yet the world turns a blind eye.   This
> blindness seems to be mass hysteria and psychosis.
>
> regards
>
> Max
> On 10/3/2021 10:51 PM, hanan bissar wrote:
>
> Sorry if I missed the discussion but where is the "covid is a 3 stage
> disease" coming from?
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 3:27 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> hanan bissar says
>>
>> "I thought this group was about CS?"
>>
>>
>> quite right Hanan.  Its a silver forum.   We can say that since covid is
>> a three stage disease, and silver may only address stage one, that
>> silver alone may not be sufficient.
>>
>> Was there something you wanted to add?
>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>3 stage disease

[Max]

I found out that covid is a two or three stage disease in about april of 
2020 by reading papers on pubmed.  This is the pivotal knowledge.  It 
was known way back then that the viral stage is over in about a week, 
that everyone, including the ones who go on to die have plenty of 
antibodies, that the severe and mortal stages of the disease are driven 
by a disregulated immune response, that the patients are no longer 
infectious.   This means that antibodies are not the answer to severe 
covid.


The vaccines are useless for people already in the hospital. Everyone 
will develop immunity...which is opposite to the tale that nobody is 
immune to this novel virus and you will die without a vaccine.  The 
immune system is working, we are immune. Its false to say nobody is 
immune.    Many, and maybe everyone has some level of cross immunity 
from prior infections.


This knowledge that covid is a three stage disease is paramount to 
understanding how to treat it,  and has huge implications for all of the 
political features we see, like the vaccination push, the lockdowns, the 
young, passports etc.   Its key, but nobody sees it.  Its like a mass 
blindness, even among experts.


The young who do not die dont have more antibodies than the old who do 
die.  Healthy people will disable the virus in their nose and lung 
mucosa.   The nature of our mucosa is important as the viral intrusion 
and replication is pH dependent.  Many people have thick, unhealthy 
mucosa due to diet and air pollution.    This front line of immunity, 
the IgA and killer cells and all the extremely complicated action going 
on is key to keep the virus from getting everywhere in the body.   
Building antibodies in the blood stream by injections of any kind is not 
right on basic principles.   If the virus invades the front lines of 
defense, its a sign the patient is already compromised.  But even with 
the invasion, everyone disables the virus.


Thats the first, non deadly stage.   The second stage is the 
hyperinflammatory stage.   Antibodies are not a cure for 
hyperinflammation.  For this reason, I predicted a year ago that the 
vaccines would not decrease all cause mortality.  How could they, when 
the causes of severe covid, the second and third stage, are 
multifactoral?   People die because they are not healthy, not because 
they lack antibodies.   The only cure for covid is to get healthy.  For 
the older people who inevitably have hugely diminished thymus and bone 
marrow functions, damping the inflammatory response by exogenous agents 
may be required.


The third stage is blood clotting.  The clotting factors may be quite 
complicated.  The spike protein itself,  reproduced by the mRNA 
vaccines, appears to be thrombotic.  Thus the vaccines duplicated the 
parthenogenesis or etiology of covid, while not assisting the front 
lines of defense.  (a small impact on IgA antibodies has been detected 
from the vaccines, to be fair)  This seems obvious, yet the world turns 
a blind eye.   This blindness seems to be mass hysteria and psychosis.


regards

Max

On 10/3/2021 10:51 PM, hanan bissar wrote:
Sorry if I missed the discussion but where is the "covid is a 3 stage 
disease" coming from?


On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 3:27 PM Max > wrote:


hanan bissar says

"I thought this group was about CS?"


quite right Hanan.  Its a silver forum.   We can say that since
covid is
a three stage disease, and silver may only address stage one, that
silver alone may not be sufficient.

Was there something you wanted to add?