CS>Re: CS & H2o2
Hi, I've read that 3% H2O2 has stabilizers in it, an aluminum compound. But I have never read that of "food grade 35%" Any info or concerns on that? From: zzekel...@aol.com Date: April 28, 2009 5:20:58 AM PDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>making cs Thanks Steve, that is what I was referring to. Forgot to add it in my ?? Lois I am on a blackberry right now and don't access to all the previous posts. Is this relative to the CS with silver oxide and problems filtering it out? If so I would add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of 3% H2O2 to a quart. - Steve N Steve, what ratio would you use ?? how much H2O2 to how much silver??? Thanks, Lois
CS>Re: CS & H2O2
With H2O2, the easiest test for benefit is against ear infections. There IS a synergistic effect that can be demonstrated in combined use. Normally, those who use hydrogen peroxide in the ears use it at 3% strength. Adding a few drops of colloidal silver to a 1/2 ounce of 3% hydrogen peroxide certainly causes a noticeable change when the H2O2 CS mixture reaches the infection. In fact, with more severe infections, it can be painful! The solution is to cut the 3% H2O2 down to about 1.5%. I have yet to meet an ear infection that did not respond incredibly well. Jason or anyone, Do you mix this for a one time application? Or can you mix CS and H202 and use when needed?What is the approx. shelf life of this mixture? Was wondering if H202 would loose its "fizzle" in storage. Thanks Terri
CS>RE: CS & H2O2
> Mike: > At this time, I must conclude that ionic silver works, and works > well. That's not to say I don't think particle silver has benefits > as well. Luckily, most processes that people use contain both. > With H2O2, the easiest test for benefit is against ear infections. > There IS a synergistic effect that can be demonstrated in combined > use. Normally, those who use hydrogen peroxide in the ears use it > at 3% strength. Adding a few drops of colloidal silver to a 1/2 > ounce of 3% hydrogen peroxide certainly causes a noticeable change > when the H2O2 CS mixture reaches the infection. In fact, with more > severe infections, it can be painful! The solution is to cut the > 3% H2O2 down to about 1.5%. I have yet to meet an ear infection > that did not respond incredibly well. > If I make a batch of colloidal silver with the 9 volt battery > method (where quite a bit of particle silver is deposited in the > distilled water), and use a glass dropper to extract some > colloidal silver to another container, then use that same dropper > to siphon some H2O2, a reaction is very evident in the glass > dropper. I know that many believe that particle silver is ionized > through this process. At this point, I tend to agree. When using > colloidal silver internally, if I want the added benefit of the > H2O2, I only use an incredibly miniscule amount of H2O2 In the > range of an end solution with .0015 - ~.05% hydrogen peroxide. > Usually, I don't want the 'stomach' reaction that is often present > when using H2O2 therapy orally. No need to upset the stomach at > all. > Clearly more work needs to be done in this area - but it is all > fascinating. Jason, Thank you for your excellent post. I took the liberty of reformatting it to make it easier to read. Your suggestion sounds very useful. I will get some. Also, thanks for the warning on taking it internally. I don't plan to do that, but having the extra strength for external infections sounds very desirable. Thanks for the good info! Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: CS & H2O2
> <> Jason, Thanks for this info. When I would feel the oncoming of a cold/sore throat, I was using CS and H202 separately, this sure makes it easier! Terri
CS>Re: CS & H2O2
>Usually, I don't want the 'stomach' reaction that is often present when using >H2O2 therapy orally. No need to upset the stomach at all. Jason ~ Years ago I'd put out poison for rats when we lived in the city. Our dog caught and ate one and I was paranoid it might have been poisoned. I called the vet and they advised to administer 1 tsp. H202, which I did, and within seconds he vomited the whole rat up. Anytime you need to vomit, H202 is a sure method! Blech! Julie & Critters
CS>Re: CS & H2O2
Hi Julie, I'm surprised to find that some people recommend H2O2 as a health cure. The reason for the gag response is hydrogen peroxide is part of the respiration cycle. It is toxic and the body tries to get rid of it as soon as possible. Naturally, it doesn't want more, so you gag when you try to drink it. As with anything, you have to sift through the available evidence and make up your own mind. I attach little importance to articles written by someone trying to sell something. If I can find independant articles that seem to say the same general thing, I feel that carries more weight. In the case of H2O2, there is a wealth of information that indicates it may be harmful. Here are some links I found: Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging Part I http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_1.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part II http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_2.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part III http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_3.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Mitochondrial Mutation http://vector.cshl.org/geneticorigins/mito/theory4.html Reactive Oxygen Species and Antioxidant Vitamins http://www.orst.edu/dept/lpi/f-w97/reactive.html Here's one with pictures showing where H2O2 occurs in the respiration cycle: Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) http://www.rndsystems.com/asp/g_sitebuilder.asp?bodyId=222 Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: CS & H2O2
Second try - Maybe there was a glitch and the first one dropped in the bit bucket. Hi Julie, I'm surprised to find that some people recommend H2O2 as a health cure. The reason for the gag response is that hydrogen peroxide is part of the respiration cycle. It is toxic and the body tries to get rid of it as soon as possible. Naturally, it doesn't want more, so you gag when you try to drink it. As with anything, you have to sift through the available evidence and make up your own mind. I attach little importance to articles written by someone trying to sell something. If I can find independant articles that seem to say the same general thing, I feel that carries more weight. In the case of H2O2, there is a wealth of information that indicates it may be harmful. Here are some links I found: Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging Part I http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_1.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part II http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_2.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part III http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_3.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Mitochondrial Mutation http://vector.cshl.org/geneticorigins/mito/theory4.html Reactive Oxygen Species and Antioxidant Vitamins http://www.orst.edu/dept/lpi/f-w97/reactive.html Here's one with pictures showing where H2O2 occurs in the respiration cycle: Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) http://www.rndsystems.com/asp/g_sitebuilder.asp?bodyId=222 Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: CS & H2o2
I use both diluted 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide (HP) and store bought 3% HP. When getting 3% HP look at the ingredients. Under Inactive Ingredients it should list only purified water. If it lists stabilizers under the Inactive Ingredients then don't buy or use it for this purpose. - Steve N From: Joseph Metz [mailto:josephm...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: CS & H2o2 Hi, I've read that 3% H2O2 has stabilizers in it, an aluminum compound. But I have never read that of "food grade 35%" Any info or concerns on that?
Re: CS>Re: CS & H2O2
Ann: There is a reaction that takes place in the mixture. I make mine to use on demand, about a week supply. I am not sure what the shelf life of the concoction is, but the colloidal silver certainly doesn't go "bad", the H2O2 is just slowly eliminated. - Original Message - From: annho...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:42 AM Subject: CS>Re: CS & H2O2 With H2O2, the easiest test for benefit is against ear infections. There IS a synergistic effect that can be demonstrated in combined use. Normally, those who use hydrogen peroxide in the ears use it at 3% strength. Adding a few drops of colloidal silver to a 1/2 ounce of 3% hydrogen peroxide certainly causes a noticeable change when the H2O2 CS mixture reaches the infection. In fact, with more severe infections, it can be painful! The solution is to cut the 3% H2O2 down to about 1.5%. I have yet to meet an ear infection that did not respond incredibly well. Jason or anyone, Do you mix this for a one time application? Or can you mix CS and H202 and use when needed?What is the approx. shelf life of this mixture? Was wondering if H202 would loose its "fizzle" in storage. Thanks Terri
Re: CS>Re: CS & H2O2
Mike: I have reviewed most of the material that touts dangers to H2O2 usage internally. There is every reason to apply caution and due consideration. However, I'm also aware of many people who have used H2O2 internally for years, and are in FANTASTIC health. H2O2 is NOT a toxic substance. Caustic, yes, toxic, no. The reason for the feeling in the stomach has nothing to do with respiration or the body "wanting to get rid of it". It has ONLY to do with the extreme reaction that H2O2 with organic material, especially bacteria. A metabolic reaction is evident within seconds of drinking a H2O2 solution. I don't know how, in fact I can't IMAGINE how, but oxygen content in the bloodstream seems to be increased. I am very greatful that I both listened to the nay-sayers ( you can find nay-sayers about anything! ) and used it despite the fears. The common H2O2 reaction is due to the explosive liberation of that extra oxygen molecule. Once this occurs, you are left with water and oxygen. The oxidizing power of H2O2 is quite amazing. Bottom line, however, is that I've seen MORE evidence that it should cautiously used on WOUNDS then for internal use. When in doubt, get educated on BOTH sides of an "arguement". As far as using h2o2 internally, I think those that advocate it might approach it a bit extremely. I don't think anywhere NEAR the recommended amount is truly needed to experience a positive benefit from its use. A few years ago, I acquired some sort of nasty parasite in the lower intestines. Colloidal silver didn't do the trick ( of course it helped my body ), bentonite internally helped incredibly but could not completely eradicate the problem, the zapper helped but could not eliminate the problem... So I added the H2O2 to the mix, and the problem was solved in short order. I really think it took a combination of treatments. The zapper killed SOMETHING within the first few hours of use - there was visible evidence. BUT zappers are not strong for use in the intestines. - Original Message - From: "Mike Monett" To: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 12:31 PM Subject: CS>Re: CS & H2O2 > Hi Julie, > > I'm surprised to find that some people recommend H2O2 as a health > cure. The reason for the gag response is hydrogen peroxide is part > of the respiration cycle. It is toxic and the body tries to get rid > of it as soon as possible. Naturally, it doesn't want more, so you > gag when you try to drink it. > > As with anything, you have to sift through the available evidence > and make up your own mind. I attach little importance to articles > written by someone trying to sell something. > > If I can find independant articles that seem to say the same general > thing, I feel that carries more weight. In the case of H2O2, there > is a wealth of information that indicates it may be harmful. Here > are some links I found: > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging Part I > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_1.htm > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part II > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_2.htm > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part III > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_3.htm > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Mitochondrial Mutation > > http://vector.cshl.org/geneticorigins/mito/theory4.html > > Reactive Oxygen Species and Antioxidant Vitamins > > http://www.orst.edu/dept/lpi/f-w97/reactive.html > > Here's one with pictures showing where H2O2 occurs in the > respiration cycle: Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) > > http://www.rndsystems.com/asp/g_sitebuilder.asp?bodyId=222 > > Regards, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Re: CS & H2O2
Mike: After reviewing the links that you submitted about oxidizing agents, I almost had the question pop out "...and your point is?" If one's body has a hard time removing free radicals, the problem doesn't lie in the natural substances created by the body or used in the body, it has to do with diet. No amount of of careful consumption is going to stop the body from being assaulted by ALL KINDS of free radicals. This is just another example of modern medicine missing the entire point of health. It is great textbook chemistry, but it still defies every personal experience I've had and of those many people I've conferred with who have been using oxygen therapies for decades. That said, I am still very cautious in usage. But I would not hestitate to inject H2O2 into my own veins if the need ever presented itself. You might want to throw away the books, and take a walk out to a wonderful, crisp flowing river, and study the river in detail. You might also want to educate yourself on the flip side of the coin. A great starting point is O2xygen Therapies: A new way of approaching Disease, by Ed McAbe. His data and references are far more extensive than a bit of chemistry theory based on some ( granted ) great theoretical work. You might also want to check out "Hydrogen Peroxide - The Misunderstood Oxidant", by Bradford, Allen, and Culberet, 1987. - Original Message - From: "Mike Monett" To: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: CS>Re: CS & H2O2 > Second try - Maybe there was a glitch and the first one dropped in the > bit bucket. > > Hi Julie, > > I'm surprised to find that some people recommend H2O2 as a health > cure. The reason for the gag response is that hydrogen peroxide is > part of the respiration cycle. It is toxic and the body tries to get > rid of it as soon as possible. Naturally, it doesn't want more, so > you gag when you try to drink it. > > As with anything, you have to sift through the available evidence > and make up your own mind. I attach little importance to articles > written by someone trying to sell something. > > If I can find independant articles that seem to say the same general > thing, I feel that carries more weight. In the case of H2O2, there > is a wealth of information that indicates it may be harmful. Here > are some links I found: > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging Part I > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_1.htm > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part II > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_2.htm > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part III > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_3.htm > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Mitochondrial Mutation > > http://vector.cshl.org/geneticorigins/mito/theory4.html > > Reactive Oxygen Species and Antioxidant Vitamins > > http://www.orst.edu/dept/lpi/f-w97/reactive.html > > Here's one with pictures showing where H2O2 occurs in the > respiration cycle: Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) > > http://www.rndsystems.com/asp/g_sitebuilder.asp?bodyId=222 > > Regards, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Re: CS & H2O2
I read recently that one of the destructive effects of cancer cells is that they do produce H202, which damages surrounding tissue. This info. came in a long essay about cancer therapies and nutrition. It was not directly concerned with using H202. JBB Mike Monett wrote: Hi Julie, I'm surprised to find that some people recommend H2O2 as a health cure. The reason for the gag response is hydrogen peroxide is part of the respiration cycle. It is toxic and the body tries to get rid of it as soon as possible. Naturally, it doesn't want more, so you gag when you try to drink it. As with anything, you have to sift through the available evidence and make up your own mind. I attach little importance to articles written by someone trying to sell something. If I can find independant articles that seem to say the same general thing, I feel that carries more weight. In the case of H2O2, there is a wealth of information that indicates it may be harmful. Here are some links I found: Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging Part I http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_1.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part II http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_2.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part III http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_3.htm Oxygen Free Radicals and Mitochondrial Mutation http://vector.cshl.org/geneticorigins/mito/theory4.html Reactive Oxygen Species and Antioxidant Vitamins http://www.orst.edu/dept/lpi/f-w97/reactive.html Here's one with pictures showing where H2O2 occurs in the respiration cycle: Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) http://www.rndsystems.com/asp/g_sitebuilder.asp?bodyId=222 Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS & H2O2
www.oxytherapy.com has a lot of info regarding H2O2. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan B. Britten" To: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS & H2O2 > I read recently that one of the destructive effects of cancer cells is > that they do produce H202, which damages surrounding tissue. This > info. came in a long essay about cancer therapies and nutrition. It > was not directly concerned with using H202. > > JBB > > > > Mike Monett wrote: > > >Hi Julie, > > > > I'm surprised to find that some people recommend H2O2 as a health > > cure. The reason for the gag response is hydrogen peroxide is part > > of the respiration cycle. It is toxic and the body tries to get rid > > of it as soon as possible. Naturally, it doesn't want more, so you > > gag when you try to drink it. > > > > As with anything, you have to sift through the available evidence > > and make up your own mind. I attach little importance to articles > > written by someone trying to sell something. > > > > If I can find independant articles that seem to say the same general > > thing, I feel that carries more weight. In the case of H2O2, there > > is a wealth of information that indicates it may be harmful. Here > > are some links I found: > > > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging Part I > > > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_1.htm > > > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part II > > > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_2.htm > > > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Aging: Part III > > > > http://intelegen.com/nutrients/free_radicals_and_aging_3.htm > > > > Oxygen Free Radicals and Mitochondrial Mutation > > > > http://vector.cshl.org/geneticorigins/mito/theory4.html > > > > Reactive Oxygen Species and Antioxidant Vitamins > > > > http://www.orst.edu/dept/lpi/f-w97/reactive.html > > > > Here's one with pictures showing where H2O2 occurs in the > > respiration cycle: Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) > > > > http://www.rndsystems.com/asp/g_sitebuilder.asp?bodyId=222 > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike Monett > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > >
CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Unless they have recently modified the formula, Pedialyte contains Aspartame. There's this new-fangled tool for the Web: www.google.com , quite helpful in dismissing 'rumors'. jr -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Pedialyte Ingredients http://www.drugs.com/PDR/Pedialyte_Oral_Electrolyte_Maintenance_Solution.html Unflavored: (Pareve,(u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: potassium citrate, sodium chloride, sodium citrate, and citric acid. Fruit Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, natural and artificial fruit flavors, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, sodium citrate, sucralose, acesulfame potassium and Yellow 6. Grape Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, artificial grape flavor, sodium citrate, sucralose, acesulfame potassium, Red 40 and Blue 1. Bubble Gum Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, sodium citrate, artificial bubble gum flavor, sucralose, acesulfame potassium and Red 40. Freezer Pops: (Pareve,(u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: citric acid, sodium chloride, sodium carboxymethylcellulose, potassium citrate, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, sucralose and acesulfame potassium; Grape also contains: Natural and artificial grape flavor, Red 40 and Blue 1; Cherry also contains: Natural and artificial cherry flavor and Red 40; Orange also contains: Natural and artificial orange flavor, Yellow 6 and Red 40; Blue Raspberry also contains: Natural and artificial blue raspberry flavor and Blue 1. Cherry Singles: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, sodium chloride, potassium citrate, sodium citrate, artificial cherry flavor, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, sucralose, acesulfame potassium and Red 40. Apple Singles: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, sodium chloride, potassium citrate, sodium citrate, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, artificial apple flavor, caramel color, acesulfame potassium and sucralose. UNFLAVORED PEDIALYTE LIQUID PROVIDES (per liter): Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 25 g; Calories, 100. (FAN 9003) FLAVORED PEDIALYTE LIQUID PROVIDES (per liter): Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 20 g; fructose, 5 g; Calories, 100. (FAN 9003) PEDIALYTE FREEZER POPS PROVIDE (per liter): Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 25 g; Calories, 100. PEDIALYTE SINGLES PROVIDE (8 fl oz): Sodium, 10.6 mEq; potassium, 4.7 mEq; chloride, 8.3 mEq; dextrose, 4.7 g; fructose, 1.2 g; Calories 24. -- Regards, Catherine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Whatever---all you had to do was 'AltaVista' Pedialyte + aspartame to get the following result: http://tinyurl.com/dwgsk "...Aspartame is not in reformulated Pedialyte..." jr That Pedialyte has in the past contained Aspartame is not a rumor. I read it on the ingredients list on the label. They may have removed it with all the noise about Aspartame. Google is the most invasive of the search engines and sucks info from your computer. It will also censor some searches. I use AltaVista. Jim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
jrowland wrote: > > > >Unless they have recently modified the formula, Pedialyte contains > >Aspartame. > > There's this new-fangled tool for the Web: www.google.com , quite helpful > in dismissing 'rumors'. > jr I don't think the ingredients on the label of a product could be construed as a rumor. If it is inaccurate then the FTC and FDA could both prosecute the company. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Yes, the last time I looked I found that the aspartame was gone as well, but was not sure it it was just that flavor or all their flavors. However it use to have aspartame in it, so I would highly recommend checking the label before purchase, you might get an old bottle, or they could change the formulea again. Marshall Catherine Creel wrote: > Pedialyte Ingredients > http://www.drugs.com/PDR/Pedialyte_Oral_Electrolyte_Maintenance_Solution.html > > Unflavored: (Pareve,(u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: potassium > citrate, sodium chloride, sodium citrate, and citric acid. > > Fruit Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: > fructose, citric acid, natural and artificial fruit flavors, potassium > citrate, sodium chloride, sodium citrate, sucralose, acesulfame > potassium and Yellow 6. > > Grape Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: > fructose, citric acid, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, artificial > grape flavor, sodium citrate, sucralose, acesulfame potassium, Red 40 > and Blue 1. > > Bubble Gum Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: > fructose, citric acid, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, sodium > citrate, artificial bubble gum flavor, sucralose, acesulfame potassium > and Red 40. > > Freezer Pops: (Pareve,(u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: citric > acid, sodium chloride, sodium carboxymethylcellulose, potassium > citrate, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, sucralose and acesulfame > potassium; Grape also contains: Natural and artificial grape flavor, > Red 40 and Blue 1; Cherry also contains: Natural and artificial cherry > flavor and Red 40; Orange also contains: Natural and artificial orange > flavor, Yellow 6 and Red 40; Blue Raspberry also contains: Natural and > artificial blue raspberry flavor and Blue 1. > > Cherry Singles: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: > fructose, citric acid, sodium chloride, potassium citrate, sodium > citrate, artificial cherry flavor, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, > sucralose, acesulfame potassium and Red 40. > > Apple Singles: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: > fructose, citric acid, sodium chloride, potassium citrate, sodium > citrate, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, artificial apple flavor, > caramel color, acesulfame potassium and sucralose. > > UNFLAVORED PEDIALYTE LIQUID PROVIDES (per liter): > > Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 25 g; > Calories, 100. > > (FAN 9003) > > FLAVORED PEDIALYTE LIQUID PROVIDES (per liter): > > Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 20 g; > fructose, 5 g; Calories, 100. > > (FAN 9003) > > PEDIALYTE FREEZER POPS PROVIDE (per liter): > > Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 25 g; > Calories, 100. > > PEDIALYTE SINGLES PROVIDE (8 fl oz): > > Sodium, 10.6 mEq; potassium, 4.7 mEq; chloride, 8.3 mEq; dextrose, 4.7 > g; fructose, 1.2 g; Calories 24. > > -- > Regards, > Catherine > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
RE: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Thank you for bringing us up to date. That is really good news. Here is what Brooks Bradley has to say about it. From: Brooks Bradley [brook...@eudoramail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 7:52 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Brooks Bradley's LED array? -- Dear Nenah, Our results with Ringer's Lactate Solution was identical to those involving Gatorade. The only, essential, basic difference between the commercial Gatorade and Ringer's Lactate is the coloring They are, both, balanced fluid electrolyte solutions. Ringer's Lactate just cost much more money, at the time of our experiments. Our original electrolyte evaluations were conducted in 1990.and did not relate to any colloidal silver investigations. Our original fluid electrolyte, colloidal silver evaluations were conducted during calendar 1996I believe. However, this is from memory, and mine is not very reliable at this stage of my present life. Best Regards, Brooks. -Original Message- From: Catherine Creel [mailto:catherine.cr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture Pedialyte Ingredients http://www.drugs.com/PDR/Pedialyte_Oral_Electrolyte_Maintenance_Solution.htm l Unflavored: (Pareve,(u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: potassium citrate, sodium chloride, sodium citrate, and citric acid. Fruit Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, natural and artificial fruit flavors, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, sodium citrate, sucralose, acesulfame potassium and Yellow 6. Grape Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, artificial grape flavor, sodium citrate, sucralose, acesulfame potassium, Red 40 and Blue 1. Bubble Gum Flavor: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, potassium citrate, sodium chloride, sodium citrate, artificial bubble gum flavor, sucralose, acesulfame potassium and Red 40. Freezer Pops: (Pareve,(u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: citric acid, sodium chloride, sodium carboxymethylcellulose, potassium citrate, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, sucralose and acesulfame potassium; Grape also contains: Natural and artificial grape flavor, Red 40 and Blue 1; Cherry also contains: Natural and artificial cherry flavor and Red 40; Orange also contains: Natural and artificial orange flavor, Yellow 6 and Red 40; Blue Raspberry also contains: Natural and artificial blue raspberry flavor and Blue 1. Cherry Singles: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, sodium chloride, potassium citrate, sodium citrate, artificial cherry flavor, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, sucralose, acesulfame potassium and Red 40. Apple Singles: (Pareve, (u)) Water, dextrose; Less than 2% of: fructose, citric acid, sodium chloride, potassium citrate, sodium citrate, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, artificial apple flavor, caramel color, acesulfame potassium and sucralose. UNFLAVORED PEDIALYTE LIQUID PROVIDES (per liter): Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 25 g; Calories, 100. (FAN 9003) FLAVORED PEDIALYTE LIQUID PROVIDES (per liter): Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 20 g; fructose, 5 g; Calories, 100. (FAN 9003) PEDIALYTE FREEZER POPS PROVIDE (per liter): Sodium, 45 mEq; potassium, 20 mEq; chloride, 35 mEq; dextrose, 25 g; Calories, 100. PEDIALYTE SINGLES PROVIDE (8 fl oz): Sodium, 10.6 mEq; potassium, 4.7 mEq; chloride, 8.3 mEq; dextrose, 4.7 g; fructose, 1.2 g; Calories 24. -- Regards, Catherine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Actually, it is perfectly legal for at least some classes of products to have inaccurate, incomplete labels. A company can change their ingredients at any time, and continue using the old labels or packaging until they are used up. With food products this can be a very long time, 6 months to a year at least. And it is perfectly legal. Whether the above would apply to a product like Pedialyte or not I don't know. But as a person with some bad allergies, I found out the hard way that labels do not necessarily reflect the actual ingredients, and it is perfectly legal. Gee, I am SO glad the FDA makes sure labels are accurate. NOT! This doesn't mean the FDA should do this, only that if it claims to do so, and doesn't, that is where serious problems can arise for the consumer. Between the USDA and the FDA we are supposed to have accurate labelling, but the laws don't really insist on any such thing. One can of course contact mfrs directly, but I have found at least of of those to lie about ingredients. Caveat Emptor, isn't it? sol Marshall Dudley wrote: jrowland wrote: Unless they have recently modified the formula, Pedialyte contains Aspartame. There's this new-fangled tool for the Web: www.google.com , quite helpful in dismissing 'rumors'. jr I don't think the ingredients on the label of a product could be construed as a rumor. If it is inaccurate then the FTC and FDA could both prosecute the company. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
Re: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Marshall Dudley wrote: > Fantastic, then the testing has been done, and the acetic acid plays little > or no > part in it. Sorry, that should have been citric acid, not acetic acid, which is vinegar. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
That Pedialyte has in the past contained Aspartame is not a rumor. I read it on the ingredients list on the label. They may have removed it with all the noise about Aspartame. Google is the most invasive of the search engines and sucks info from your computer. It will also censor some searches. I use AltaVista. Jim -Original Message- From: jrowland [mailto:sarongs...@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture > >Unless they have recently modified the formula, Pedialyte contains >Aspartame. There's this new-fangled tool for the Web: www.google.com , quite helpful in dismissing 'rumors'. jr -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
I also recall, without having a hard cite close at hand that legislation was passed that did not require Aspartame to be listed if it is below some arbitrary amount. They are really serious about Aspartame and Fluoride in the water. Those substances...poisons..are an important part of the mind-control agenda. A friend who got serious about trying to stop Aspartame in one community began getting really scary anonymous death threats. Re: calling the manufacturer. I called the makers of Wolf's Chili to inquire if they had MSG or any related substances in their product. The said they would get right back with me on that. That was 5 years ago. -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture Actually, it is perfectly legal for at least some classes of products to have inaccurate, incomplete labels. A company can change their ingredients at any time, and continue using the old labels or packaging until they are used up. With food products this can be a very long time, 6 months to a year at least. And it is perfectly legal. Whether the above would apply to a product like Pedialyte or not I don't know. But as a person with some bad allergies, I found out the hard way that labels do not necessarily reflect the actual ingredients, and it is perfectly legal. Gee, I am SO glad the FDA makes sure labels are accurate. NOT! This doesn't mean the FDA should do this, only that if it claims to do so, and doesn't, that is where serious problems can arise for the consumer. Between the USDA and the FDA we are supposed to have accurate labelling, but the laws don't really insist on any such thing. One can of course contact mfrs directly, but I have found at least of of those to lie about ingredients. Caveat Emptor, isn't it? sol Marshall Dudley wrote: >jrowland wrote: > > > >>>Unless they have recently modified the formula, Pedialyte contains >>>Aspartame. >>> >>> >>There's this new-fangled tool for the Web: www.google.com , quite helpful >>in dismissing 'rumors'. >>jr >> >> > >I don't think the ingredients on the label of a product could be construed as >a rumor. If it is inaccurate then the FTC and FDA could both prosecute the >company. > >Marshall > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > -- Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
RE: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
I also was going to use pedialyte but I read the label and it did contain aspartame. this was about 1 year ago. -- Original message -- From: "Jim Holmes" > That Pedialyte has in the past contained Aspartame is not a rumor. I read it > on the ingredients list on the label. They may have removed it with all the > noise about Aspartame. > > Google is the most invasive of the search engines and sucks info from your > computer. It will also censor some searches. I use AltaVista. > > Jim > > -Original Message- > From: jrowland [mailto:sarongs...@cox.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:42 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture > > > > > >Unless they have recently modified the formula, Pedialyte contains > >Aspartame. > > There's this new-fangled tool for the Web: www.google.com , quite helpful > in dismissing 'rumors'. > jr > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/05 > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
I actually bought a bottle for my grandchild who was sick a few years ago, got it home and saw the aspartame on the label and had to return it to the store. Marshall mborg...@att.net wrote: > I also was going to use pedialyte but I read the label and it did contain > aspartame. this was about 1 year ago. > -- Original message -- > From: "Jim Holmes" > > That Pedialyte has in the past contained Aspartame is not a rumor. I read it > > on the ingredients list on the label. They may have removed it with all the > > noise about Aspartame. > > > > Google is the most invasive of the search engines and sucks info from your > > computer. It will also censor some searches. I use AltaVista. > > > > Jim > > > > -Original Message- > > From: jrowland [mailto:sarongs...@cox.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:42 PM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture > > > > > > > > > >Unless they have recently modified the formula, Pedialyte contains > > >Aspartame. > > > > There's this new-fangled tool for the Web: www.google.com , quite helpful > > in dismissing 'rumors'. > > jr > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/05 > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Thank you JR, for doing the search for us all, and confirming that it has been removed. Jim -Original Message- From: jrowland [mailto:sarongs...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:52 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture Whatever---all you had to do was 'AltaVista' Pedialyte + aspartame to get the following result: http://tinyurl.com/dwgsk "...Aspartame is not in reformulated Pedialyte..." jr >That Pedialyte has in the past contained Aspartame is not a rumor. I read it >on the ingredients list on the label. They may have removed it with all the >noise about Aspartame. > >Google is the most invasive of the search engines and sucks info from your >computer. It will also censor some searches. I use AltaVista. > >Jim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Re: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture
Sucralose listed as an ingredient in the flavored items is the same as Splenda -- not a good choice either. GE gailev...@cox.net www.livingnow.net/gevans > > From: Marshall Dudley > Date: 2005/12/14 Wed AM 11:58:31 EST > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS/h2o2/Gatorade mixture > > Yes, the last time I looked I found that the aspartame was gone as well, but > was > not sure it it was just that flavor or all their flavors. However it use to > have > aspartame in it, so I would highly recommend checking the label before > purchase, > you might get an old bottle, or they could change the formulea again. > > Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
