Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Ode Coyote]

 Consider "why" they think that.
Exceptions to rules don't count.
 They pretty much have to except themselves in spite of the rules and 
generally can with some effort and a bit of risk.

 Risk is proportional to the noise it makes.
 "Drug dealers" who are noisy are the ones in jail, but there's plenty of 
those drugs around.


Smugglers will never be extinct.
DMSO is not "impossible" to obtain.
It's actually quite likely to make it through the mail...sniffer dogs 
aren't looking for it.


I doubt you'll lose more than one in ten bottles or that any agents will 
appear at your door.

 The bigger the feet, the wider the cracks those feet span.
 Stay small, be quiet and do what you want to...unnoticed.

Ode



At 02:23 PM 2/9/2008 +, you wrote:



On Feb 9, 2008 1:21 PM, Gene Wolfe 
<ge...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


It looks like governments think they must protect us and feed us crap. 
Just like the FDA here with CS and DMSO.



Yep - it's illegal here in Scotland and impossible to obtain. It really 
annoys me. It's someting I'd love to try.


Kirsteen


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RE: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Silvia Messmer]

In the certain states in the USA where raw milk is illegal there are often
milk/cow share programs where you "buy" a share of a cow and get some of the
milk produced by that cow.  Crafty way to get around the law.  You would
have to do a lot of asking and searching around to find these cow share
programs. Any way to get real milk.  I feel luck I can buy raw cow and goat
milk locally, but it is expensive. $6.99 a half gallon for goat and $8.99
for cow.  Raw grass fed milk is the best for you.

Silvia
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  -Original Message-
  From: Gene Wolfe [mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com]
  Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:22 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment


  Sorry, I did a Google on "sources for raw milk in canada" and got a bunch
of hits. Here is one:
  http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1976633

  It looks like governments think they must protect us and feed us crap.
Just like the FDA here with CS and DMSO.

  Sorry,
  Gene

  At 09:57 AM 2/9/2008, you wrote:

Gene,

Do you know of any in Canada more specifically Toronto?

Thank you,

Ernie




From: Gene Wolfe [ mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

Here is a website that helps locate raw milk suppliers:
http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html
Gene

At 10:14 PM 2/8/2008, you wrote:

http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html
Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.

I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager
(pre-1920s) she had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay with her
grandmother in Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the hills.  Doctor's
orders were that she should be given the milk from one particular cow only
(not mixed or several).  She got better.

Thankyou and amen.
Rowena


  Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

  Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.

RE: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Ernie Patai]

Thank you, but I would need someone in Toronto to contact.

Could be anywhere in Canada..lol.

 

I'll also do a google search. :-)

 

Ern

 

  _  

From: Gene Wolfe [mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

 

Sorry, I did a Google on "sources for raw milk in canada" and got a bunch of
hits. Here is one:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1976633

It looks like governments think they must protect us and feed us crap. Just
like the FDA here with CS and DMSO.

Sorry,
Gene

At 09:57 AM 2/9/2008, you wrote:



Gene,
 
Do you know of any in Canada more specifically Toronto?
 
Thank you,
 
Ernie
 

  _  

From: Gene Wolfe [ mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com <mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com> ]

Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment
 
Here is a website that helps locate raw milk suppliers:
http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html
Gene

At 10:14 PM 2/8/2008, you wrote:

http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html 
Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.
 
I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager (pre-1920s)
she had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay with her grandmother
in Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the hills.  Doctor's orders were
that she should be given the milk from one particular cow only (not mixed or
several).  She got better.
 
Thankyou and amen.
Rowena
 

  Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

  Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.

 

Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Clayton Family]

my mom was underweight as a child, and her family had to buy milk from 
a jersey cow, luckily there was a family in town that had one. She 
liked it just fine, but she didn't really gain much weight. The doc was 
satisfied, though, since he knew she was getting the best nutrition 
available.


On Feb 8, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Rowena wrote:


http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html
Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.
 
I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager 
(pre-1920s) she had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay 
with her grandmother in Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the 
hills.  Doctor's orders were that she should be given the milk from 
one particular cow only (not mixed or several).  She got better.

 
Thankyou and amen.
Rowena
 

  Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

  Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.

 


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Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Smitty]

It seems one solution would be to make friends
with a dairy farmer !

Smitty

On 2/9/08, Rowena  wrote:
>
>
> One of the things I couldn't quite fathom in North Wales was seeing milk
> bottles left at the farm gate - the farmers were BUYING milk off the
> milkman.  I thought at the time it was just convenience - never thought
> there might be more to it.  My uncle and aunt had Jersey cows, and she used
> to make wonderful butter.  No more. It became impossible to buy new gaskets
> for the beautiful old wooden milk churn that my grandmother used to use.
> They buy butter in town.  There used to be refreshing, tart buttermilk left
> over from the churning to drink, make into pancakes, or pour over hot
> potatoes with pepper and salt ("tatws llaeth"). Just memories now.
> Progress.
> Progress to what, exactly?
> R
>
>
>
>
> Yep - it's illegal here in Scotland and impossible to obtain. It really
> annoys me. It's someting I'd love to try.
>


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Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Rowena]

One of the things I couldn't quite fathom in North Wales was seeing milk 
bottles left at the farm gate - the farmers were BUYING milk off the milkman.  
I thought at the time it was just convenience - never thought there might be 
more to it.  My uncle and aunt had Jersey cows, and she used to make wonderful 
butter.  No more. It became impossible to buy new gaskets for the beautiful old 
wooden milk churn that my grandmother used to use.  They buy butter in town.  
There used to be refreshing, tart buttermilk left over from the churning to 
drink, make into pancakes, or pour over hot potatoes with pepper and salt 
("tatws llaeth"). Just memories now.  Progress.
Progress to what, exactly?
R


  Yep - it's illegal here in Scotland and impossible to obtain. It really 
annoys me. It's someting I'd love to try.

Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Feb 9, 2008 1:21 PM, Gene Wolfe  wrote:

>
> It looks like governments think they must protect us and feed us crap.
> Just like the FDA here with CS and DMSO.
>
>
Yep - it's illegal here in Scotland and impossible to obtain. It really
annoys me. It's someting I'd love to try.

Kirsteen

RE: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Gene Wolfe]

Sorry, I did a Google on "sources for raw milk in canada" and got a 
bunch of hits. Here is one:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1976633

It looks like governments think they must protect us and feed us 
crap. Just like the FDA here with CS and DMSO.


Sorry,
Gene

At 09:57 AM 2/9/2008, you wrote:

Gene,

Do you know of any in Canada more specifically Toronto?

Thank you,

Ernie


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From: Gene Wolfe [mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

Here is a website that helps locate raw milk suppliers:
http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html
Gene

At 10:14 PM 2/8/2008, you wrote:

<http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html>http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html 


Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.

I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager 
(pre-1920s) she had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay 
with her grandmother in Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the 
hills.  Doctor's orders were that she should be given the milk from 
one particular cow only (not mixed or several).  She got better.


Thankyou and amen.
Rowena


  Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

  Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.

RE: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Ernie Patai]

Gene,

 

Do you know of any in Canada more specifically Toronto?

 

Thank you,

 

Ernie

 

  _  

From: Gene Wolfe [mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

 

Here is a website that helps locate raw milk suppliers:
http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html
Gene

At 10:14 PM 2/8/2008, you wrote:



http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html 
Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.
 
I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager (pre-1920s)
she had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay with her grandmother
in Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the hills.  Doctor's orders were
that she should be given the milk from one particular cow only (not mixed or
several).  She got better.
 
Thankyou and amen.
Rowena
 

  Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

  Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.

 

Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Gene Wolfe]

Here is a website that helps locate raw milk suppliers:
http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html
Gene

At 10:14 PM 2/8/2008, you wrote:

http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html
Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.

I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager 
(pre-1920s) she had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay 
with her grandmother in Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the 
hills.  Doctor's orders were that she should be given the milk from 
one particular cow only (not mixed or several).  She got better.


Thankyou and amen.
Rowena


  Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

  Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.

Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Del]

I would like to add my two or so cents to this one.
I have been very fortunate to locate a local source of raw milk.
I started drinking only raw milk about three months ago.
In that time I have seen (and felt) the most dramatic improvement in my overall 
health and well being since I discovered CS.
I suspect there are two components to this.  I have always consumed a lot of 
milk (over a gallon a week on average) and I suspect that just the elimination 
of commercial milk has a lot to do with my improvement.  I have never been 
lactose intolerant, but I had a number of low level problems such as upper 
respiratory irritation and intestinal problems that I never blamed on 
commercial milk, but which I now believe were related to commercial milk 
consumption.  Secondly, I believe that consuming a like amount of healthy, raw 
milk has turned what was a negative for my health into a positive.  Raw milk 
from grass fed cows is a tremendously potent health food with many positive 
benefits.  If you want to know more about this, most of it is covered in this 
excerpt from the DVD "The Whole Truth About Milk".  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcyAH0rOPE

As another footnote, my wife has been lactose intolerant all of her life, but 
she is now drinking raw milk without any problem.  We are also beginning to 
make raw milk kefir (just consumed our first batch) and I am planning to make 
raw milk yogurt.  I anticipate even more health benefits from all of this in 
the future.  

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:14 PM
  Subject: Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment


  http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html
  Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.

  I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager (pre-1920s) she 
had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay with her grandmother in 
Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the hills.  Doctor's orders were that 
she should be given the milk from one particular cow only (not mixed or 
several).  She got better.

  Thankyou and amen.
  Rowena


Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.

   

Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[mborgert]

Thanks
Found a farm from the list a few miles from here.
mary

-- Original message from "Rowena" : 
-- 


http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html
Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.

I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager (pre-1920s) she 
had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay with her grandmother in 
Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the hills.  Doctor's orders were that 
she should be given the milk from one particular cow only (not mixed or 
several).  She got better.

Thankyou and amen.
Rowena


  Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

  Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.

 

Re: CS> ( Milk is not phony ) Raw Milk Diet/Treatment

[Rowena]

http://www.modern-diets-and-nutritional-diseases.com/milk-cure.html
Very interesting, Wayne.  Lots of references to this on the web.

I can throw something in here.  When my mother was a teenager (pre-1920s) she 
had a stomach ulcer and anaemia.  She went to stay with her grandmother in 
Nebo, near Llanrwst, Denbighshire, up in the hills.  Doctor's orders were that 
she should be given the milk from one particular cow only (not mixed or 
several).  She got better.

Thankyou and amen.
Rowena


  Read the 1929 article from the Mayo Clinic.

  Seems they gave milk to  300 sick people.