Re: CS>question/CS and arteries and allergies

2005-12-12 Thread Deborah Gerard
Thankyou for the replies I have started taking purified liver powder that has 
all of the b's and the folic acid...I will keep up the cs as well...debbie

Tel Tofflemire  wrote:  Deborah ,
  Have you ever looked into Vit. B-12-B-6-Folic Acid ?  Under the tong, let it 
dissolve.  This combination is reported to dissolve the Homosistene (sp)? acid  
 in your blood stream, Homosistene (sp)?acid is produced by your liver, and 
causes sore spots inside your blood vanes, as 
  cholesterol then comes to repair the area.  No Homosistene (sp)? acid, no 
build-up of patches.
  Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.
- Original Message - 
  From: Nenah Sylver 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:07 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>question/CS and arteries and allergies
  

  Deborah Gerard wrote: 
  Can cs help with histamine levels 
  and heart blockage? 
  ==
  It helps to know why and how the body functions as it does. For example, if 
there are microbes attacking the arteries, or irritants, scarring results. The 
body itself produces cholerterol to cover the scars, sort of like an internal 
"band aid." Of course it limits the amount of blood that can flow freely 
through that area, but the purpose for the cholesterol buildup was noble. If 
the CS can get to the microbes and kill them, there won't be any scarring, and 
voila, no cholesterol buildup either.
   
  Now I have a question: How does CS work with the body to help allergies (if 
it does)?
   
  Thanks.
Nenah
  
 
   




Re: CS>question/CS and arteries and allergies

2005-12-12 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Deborah ,
Have you ever looked into Vit. B-12-B-6-Folic Acid ?  Under the tong, let it 
dissolve.  This combination is reported to dissolve the Homosistene (sp)? acid  
 in your blood stream, Homosistene (sp)?acid is produced by your liver, and 
causes sore spots inside your blood vanes, as 
cholesterol then comes to repair the area.  No Homosistene (sp)? acid, no 
build-up of patches.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nenah Sylver 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:07 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>question/CS and arteries and allergies


  Deborah Gerard wrote: 
  Can cs help with histamine levels 
  and heart blockage? 
  ==
  It helps to know why and how the body functions as it does. For example, if 
there are microbes attacking the arteries, or irritants, scarring results. The 
body itself produces cholerterol to cover the scars, sort of like an internal 
"band aid." Of course it limits the amount of blood that can flow freely 
through that area, but the purpose for the cholesterol buildup was noble. If 
the CS can get to the microbes and kill them, there won't be any scarring, and 
voila, no cholesterol buildup either.

  Now I have a question: How does CS work with the body to help allergies (if 
it does)?

  Thanks.
  Nenah

   


Re: CS>question/CS and arteries and allergies

2005-12-12 Thread Nenah Sylver
Deborah Gerard wrote: 
Can cs help with histamine levels 
and heart blockage? 
==
It helps to know why and how the body functions as it does. For example, if 
there are microbes attacking the arteries, or irritants, scarring results. The 
body itself produces cholerterol to cover the scars, sort of like an internal 
"band aid." Of course it limits the amount of blood that can flow freely 
through that area, but the purpose for the cholesterol buildup was noble. If 
the CS can get to the microbes and kill them, there won't be any scarring, and 
voila, no cholesterol buildup either.

Now I have a question: How does CS work with the body to help allergies (if it 
does)?

Thanks.
Nenah




RE: CS and Arteries/James

1999-12-05 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 01:17 PM 12/4/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi V,
>
>According to Dr. (phD, not MD ) Mary Enig,  pig fat is much healthier than 
>hydrogenated veggie oils.  See if you can find her site.  Mind boggling. 
> Another example of how bad we've been had.
>~~~
Well there is also the Ray Peat  "coconut oil is good for you" theory...
but sure did not agree with moi.

~^^V^^~
>


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Re: CS and Arteries/James

1999-12-04 Thread Charles King
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 13:17:24 -0700, "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
wrote:

>According to Dr. (phD, not MD ) Mary Enig,  pig fat is much healthier than 
>hydrogenated veggie oils.  See if you can find her site.  Mind boggling. 
> Another example of how bad we've been had.
>
>
>James Osbourne Holmes

Here it is (God, I'm good):
http://www.enig.com/trans.html
Chuck
 I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat veggies 


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RE: CS and Arteries/James

1999-12-04 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi V,

According to Dr. (phD, not MD ) Mary Enig,  pig fat is much healthier than 
hydrogenated veggie oils.  See if you can find her site.  Mind boggling. 
 Another example of how bad we've been had.


James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org]
Sent:   Friday, December 03, 1999 2:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:    RE: CS and Arteries/James

James,

Thanks so much for this! Now, how about cholesterol...related to pathogens
or CS

~^^V^^~

At 08:15 PM 12/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Somewhere in my mass of not-well-organized.information?is an
>article saying that much of what was thought to be "degenerative" 
 vascular
>disease is now being attributed to pathogens.  Particularly heart disease. 
> Vaguely, I remember something about people who took small amounts of
>tetracycline not getting Mis.
>
>Remember when ulcers were caused by "stress".  Now it is heliobacter
> pilori.   We are probably just around a similar corner for some forms of
>arthritis too.
>
>Remember too, what Dr. Robert Becker says.  CS facilities the transition 
of
>neoplasms  into stem cells, and then into the appropriate tissue
>morphology.
>
>James Osbourne Holmes
>a...@trail.com
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From:  Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org]
>Sent:  Thursday, December 02, 1999 1:45 AM
>To:silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject:   CS and Arteries
>
>
>
>Would someone be willing to tell me whether CS can be used to help
>arterial health? How does it affect arteries, and the possiblity of
>heart attacks or strokes?
>
>~^^V^^~
>
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Re: CS and Arteries/James

1999-12-04 Thread fhlew
etracycline not getting Mis.
>> >
>> >Remember when ulcers were caused by "stress".  Now it is
>> heliobacter
>> > pilori.   We are probably just around a similar corner for some
>> forms of
>> >arthritis too.
>> >
>> >Remember too, what Dr. Robert Becker says.  CS facilities the
>> transition of
>> >neoplasms  into stem cells, and then into the appropriate tissue
>> >morphology.
>> >
>> >James Osbourne Holmes
>> >a...@trail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From:  Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org]
>> >Sent:  Thursday, December 02, 1999 1:45 AM
>> >To:silver-list@eskimo.com
>> >Subject:   CS and Arteries
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Would someone be willing to tell me whether CS can be used to help
>> >arterial health? How does it affect arteries, and the possiblity of
>>
>> >heart attacks or strokes?
>> >
>> >~^^V^^~
>> >
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Re: CS and Arteries/James

1999-12-04 Thread fhlew
   Raised  Homocysteine levels todate have been found to be an independent
risk marker for cardiovascular disease. Research studies have
shown that elevated levels of homocysteine correlated well with patients with
Peripheral Vascular Disease, Cerebrovascular Accidents - Strokes,
Cardio-vascular Accidents- Heartattacks, Thrombosis, Angina Pectoris and
Intermittent Claudication. The Journal of the American Medical
Association[1992;268[7]:877-881], in an article, reported the sampling of 271
males with cardiovascular accidents- heart-attacks, had levels of
Homocysteine higher than controls. The raised levels of Homocysteine
can be readily treated by Vitamin B12, Vitamin B6, Folic Acid ,Betaine and
Choline, according to the authors.

 The breakdown of Homocysteine is dependent on
Vitamin- and Nutrient-dependent enzymes. Homocysteine is a non-essential amino
acid in the body. Any blockage in its  metabolic
pathway due to:
1. Lack of Vitamin B6-dependent Enzyme [cystathionine
B-synthase, which removes sulphur from the
 homocysteine-methionine cycle. It is  alsoVitamin
B12-
 dependent.]
 2. Failure of Remethylation of homocysteine back to
 methionine [ deficiencies of Vitamin B12, Folic
Acid,
 Betaine]
will lead to toxic accumulation of homocysteine in the blood causing an
elevation of homocysteine level. The latter is a risk factor for  Occlusive
Vascular Disease. The biochemical  markers for B12 deficiency are
Methyl Malonic acid and Homocysteine. The sustained elevation of
Methyl Malonic acid and/or Homocysteine can predict the imminent
B12 deficiency subclinically  within a year  even with normal blood levels.

  Comments:

 Homocysteine is considered the " second cholesterol " and
in
many instances, it has been found that patients developing cardiovascular
complications showed normal cholesterol levels.

  Elevated level of homocysteine due to a blocked metabolic
pathway, which is Vitamin and Nutrient dependent,can be simply resolved
by  cost-effective vitamins and nutrients.

  Elevated level of homocysteine is also a predictive risk
factor
for diseases relevant to:
   1. Neurology
   2. Gynaecology
   3. Cardiology
   4. Geriatrics
5. Genetics

 Urinary and Blood tests for homocysteine will be a futuristic
routine  for a number of  undiagnosed conditions related to cardiac,
neurological, gynaecological, genetic and  geriactric diseases. These,
hopefully,will be cost-effective.

  One noted dental authority was quoted to have linked
every " root canal " to a cardio-vascular accident. Dr. Hulda Clark has
made it very clear that toxic heavy metals provide a favorable environment
for the survival of the microbes and parasites. It is not surprising to
find  microbes or parasites in the degenerated arterial walls with deposits
of toxic heavy metals.

With regards
  Lew







Vilik Rapheles wrote:

> James,
>
> Thanks so much for this! Now, how about cholesterol...related to pathogens
> or CS
>
> ~^^V^^~
>
> At 08:15 PM 12/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >Somewhere in my mass of not-well-organized.information?is an
> >article saying that much of what was thought to be "degenerative"  vascular
> >disease is now being attributed to pathogens.  Particularly heart disease.
> > Vaguely, I remember something about people who took small amounts of
> >tetracycline not getting Mis.
> >
> >Remember when ulcers were caused by "stress".  Now it is heliobacter
> > pilori.   We are probably just around a similar corner for some forms of
> >arthritis too.
> >
> >Remember too, what Dr. Robert Becker says.  CS facilities the transition of
> >neoplasms  into stem cells, and then into the appropriate tissue
> >morphology.
> >
> >James Osbourne Holmes
> >a...@trail.com
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From:  Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org]
> >Sent:  Thursday, December 02, 1999 1:45 AM
> >To:silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject:   CS and Arteries
> >
> >
> >
> >Would someone be willing to tell me whether CS can be used to help
> >arterial health? How does it affect arteries, and the possiblity of
> >heart attacks or strokes?
> >
> >~^^V^^~
> >
> >
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RE: CS and Arteries/James

1999-12-03 Thread Vilik Rapheles
James,

Thanks so much for this! Now, how about cholesterol...related to pathogens
or CS

~^^V^^~

At 08:15 PM 12/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Somewhere in my mass of not-well-organized.information?is an 
>article saying that much of what was thought to be "degenerative"  vascular 
>disease is now being attributed to pathogens.  Particularly heart disease. 
> Vaguely, I remember something about people who took small amounts of 
>tetracycline not getting Mis.
>
>Remember when ulcers were caused by "stress".  Now it is heliobacter 
> pilori.   We are probably just around a similar corner for some forms of 
>arthritis too.
>
>Remember too, what Dr. Robert Becker says.  CS facilities the transition of 
>neoplasms  into stem cells, and then into the appropriate tissue 
>morphology.
>
>James Osbourne Holmes
>a...@trail.com
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From:  Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org]
>Sent:  Thursday, December 02, 1999 1:45 AM
>To:silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject:   CS and Arteries
>
>
>
>Would someone be willing to tell me whether CS can be used to help
>arterial health? How does it affect arteries, and the possiblity of
>heart attacks or strokes?
>
>~^^V^^~
>
>
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RE: CS and Arteries

1999-12-02 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Somewhere in my mass of not-well-organized.information?is an 
article saying that much of what was thought to be "degenerative"  vascular 
disease is now being attributed to pathogens.  Particularly heart disease. 
 Vaguely, I remember something about people who took small amounts of 
tetracycline not getting Mis.

Remember when ulcers were caused by "stress".  Now it is heliobacter 
 pilori.   We are probably just around a similar corner for some forms of 
arthritis too.

Remember too, what Dr. Robert Becker says.  CS facilities the transition of 
neoplasms  into stem cells, and then into the appropriate tissue 
morphology.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org]
Sent:   Thursday, December 02, 1999 1:45 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:    CS and Arteries



Would someone be willing to tell me whether CS can be used to help
arterial health? How does it affect arteries, and the possiblity of
heart attacks or strokes?

~^^V^^~


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CS and Arteries

1999-12-02 Thread Vilik Rapheles


Would someone be willing to tell me whether CS can be used to help 
arterial health? How does it affect arteries, and the possiblity of
heart attacks or strokes?

~^^V^^~


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