CS3 batteries vs. mfgd. CS machines
Hello Frances, No it doesn't work as well as some manufactured generators. It does work however. Current control, voltage, stirring the mix, wetted depth of electrodes, electrode spacing, timing, temperature, amount of water used, type of water used and surface area of the electrodes all affect the outcome. You will have to exercise lots of control to end up with consistent batches of CS if you use 3 batteries or the equivalent in a manufactured generator. It is problematic to do it that way from the repeatability and end product results. You can make CS from the ridiculous to the sublime. Check us out for an different type alternative to home-made CS. Trem www.silvergen.com At 12:03 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Does this process work as good as using an already-manufactured generator? Where do you buy the silver wires/rods? - Forwarded message -- From: Frances Mehner scha...@flash.net To: John L Maurath conla...@juno.com Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:41:30 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help] Message-ID: 39689d2a.3e953...@flash.net Received: from mx1.boston.juno.com (mx1.boston.juno.com [63.211.172.33]) by m12.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAZSCY2S for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from mx2.jersey.juno.com (mx2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.33.111]) by mx1.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAXBYMGA for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.2.14]) by mx2.jersey.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLUAXRYV7J for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:10 -0400 (EST) Received: from flash.net (p104-27.atnt1.dialup.abq1.flash.net [216.215.104.27]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04104 for conla...@juno.com; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=134BB1BB798FB1DD1DDA09AA Return-Path: scha...@flash.net X-Accept-Language: en From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:21 -0700 Subject: Re: CSNew to Group--Help Message-ID: 001301bfa8fa$682e0500$8334e...@default References: 001b01bfa4a3$c519f360$f8374...@kenhess Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by chupacabras.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17304; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from smart...@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id WAA07866; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: 3riZv3.0.jw1.TX_-u@mx1 Resent-Sender: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: silver-list@eskimo.com archive/latest/21995 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com X-Loop: silver-list@eskimo.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 Dear Hope, Hi! Here`s the CS making info for you. I sure hope CS helps you as well as it did me! Here`s how to make CS: You`ll need 3 nine-volt batteries, (if you can afford the Lithiums they last 4 times longer than the alkalines do.) 2 alligator clips, the ones with two clips on either end of a plastic coated wire, 2 sets actually, which you can buy at Radio Shack, 2 pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge, 5 inches long, 2 cups of distilled water in a glass measuring cup. Now connect the batteries together, one snapped upside down onto the tops of the other two. This leaves two empty posts, a positive and a negative. Connect a clip to each post, and the other ends to the silver wires. Rinse the cup with distilled water to remove any dust or residue. Drop the wires into the distilled water, leaving the clips out of the water. Have the wires remain about one inch apart, with 4 inches in the water. They like to float around, so it can be a bit tricky. Some folks wrap theirs around a chopstick or pencil and balance that across the cup. A bend in the top of the wires works too. Don`t worry about being shocked, it doesn`t. Time for a half-hour, and check the wires. If you see bubbles forming on one wire, it is working! The golden clouds is the forming Colloid. After 45 minutes, wipe the black stuff off the wires. This is silver oxide from the oxygen released by the process. It is harmless, I understand, just ugly. Replace the wires for another half hour. You now have Colloidal Silver! Wipe the wires again, disconnect the batteries, and store them away, I use a ziplock bag. Pour the finished CS into a hard plastic or glass bottle. Don`t refrigerate. I take 3 big
Re: CS3 batteries vs. mfgd. CS machines
Thanks Frances. On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 12:06:13 -0700 Trem t...@silvergen.com writes: Hello Frances, No it doesn't work as well as some manufactured generators. It does work however. Current control, voltage, stirring the mix, wetted depth of electrodes, electrode spacing, timing, temperature, amount of water used, type of water used and surface area of the electrodes all affect the outcome. You will have to exercise lots of control to end up with consistent batches of CS if you use 3 batteries or the equivalent in a manufactured generator. It is problematic to do it that way from the repeatability and end product results. You can make CS from the ridiculous to the sublime. Check us out for an different type alternative to home-made CS. Trem www.silvergen.com At 12:03 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Does this process work as good as using an already-manufactured generator? Where do you buy the silver wires/rods? - Forwarded message -- From: Frances Mehner scha...@flash.net To: John L Maurath conla...@juno.com Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:41:30 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help] Message-ID: 39689d2a.3e953...@flash.net Received: from mx1.boston.juno.com (mx1.boston.juno.com [63.211.172.33]) by m12.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAZSCY2S for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from mx2.jersey.juno.com (mx2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.33.111]) by mx1.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAXBYMGA for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.2.14]) by mx2.jersey.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLUAXRYV7J for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:10 -0400 (EST) Received: from flash.net (p104-27.atnt1.dialup.abq1.flash.net [216.215.104.27]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04104 for conla...@juno.com; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=134BB1BB798FB1DD1DDA09AA Return-Path: scha...@flash.net X-Accept-Language: en From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:21 -0700 Subject: Re: CSNew to Group--Help Message-ID: 001301bfa8fa$682e0500$8334e...@default References: 001b01bfa4a3$c519f360$f8374...@kenhess Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by chupacabras.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17304; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from smart...@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id WAA07866; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: 3riZv3.0.jw1.TX_-u@mx1 Resent-Sender: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: silver-list@eskimo.com archive/latest/21995 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com X-Loop: silver-list@eskimo.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 Dear Hope, Hi! Here`s the CS making info for you. I sure hope CS helps you as well as it did me! Here`s how to make CS: You`ll need 3 nine-volt batteries, (if you can afford the Lithiums they last 4 times longer than the alkalines do.) 2 alligator clips, the ones with two clips on either end of a plastic coated wire, 2 sets actually, which you can buy at Radio Shack, 2 pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge, 5 inches long, 2 cups of distilled water in a glass measuring cup. Now connect the batteries together, one snapped upside down onto the tops of the other two. This leaves two empty posts, a positive and a negative. Connect a clip to each post, and the other ends to the silver wires. Rinse the cup with distilled water to remove any dust or residue. Drop the wires into the distilled water, leaving the clips out of the water. Have the wires remain about one inch apart, with 4 inches in the water. They like to float around, so it can be a bit tricky. Some folks wrap theirs around a chopstick or pencil and balance that across the cup. A bend in the top of the wires works too. Don`t worry about being shocked, it doesn`t. Time for a half-hour, and check the wires. If you see bubbles forming on one wire, it is working! The golden clouds is the forming Colloid. After 45 minutes, wipe the black stuff off the wires. This is silver oxide from the oxygen released by the process. It is harmless, I understand, just
Re: CS3 batteries vs. mfgd. CS machines
I bought a unit that was premade and it has 4 batteries in line and I remove it every 10-15 minutes and stir it. It has silver strips not wires. John L Maurath wrote: Thanks Frances. On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 12:06:13 -0700 Trem t...@silvergen.com writes: Hello Frances, No it doesn't work as well as some manufactured generators. It does work however. Current control, voltage, stirring the mix, wetted depth of electrodes, electrode spacing, timing, temperature, amount of water used, type of water used and surface area of the electrodes all affect the outcome. You will have to exercise lots of control to end up with consistent batches of CS if you use 3 batteries or the equivalent in a manufactured generator. It is problematic to do it that way from the repeatability and end product results. You can make CS from the ridiculous to the sublime. Check us out for an different type alternative to home-made CS. Trem www.silvergen.com At 12:03 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Does this process work as good as using an already-manufactured generator? Where do you buy the silver wires/rods? - Forwarded message -- From: Frances Mehner scha...@flash.net To: John L Maurath conla...@juno.com Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:41:30 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help] Message-ID: 39689d2a.3e953...@flash.net Received: from mx1.boston.juno.com (mx1.boston.juno.com [63.211.172.33]) by m12.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAZSCY2S for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from mx2.jersey.juno.com (mx2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.33.111]) by mx1.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAXBYMGA for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.2.14]) by mx2.jersey.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLUAXRYV7J for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:10 -0400 (EST) Received: from flash.net (p104-27.atnt1.dialup.abq1.flash.net [216.215.104.27]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04104 for conla...@juno.com; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=134BB1BB798FB1DD1DDA09AA Return-Path: scha...@flash.net X-Accept-Language: en From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:21 -0700 Subject: Re: CSNew to Group--Help Message-ID: 001301bfa8fa$682e0500$8334e...@default References: 001b01bfa4a3$c519f360$f8374...@kenhess Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by chupacabras.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17304; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from smart...@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id WAA07866; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: 3riZv3.0.jw1.TX_-u@mx1 Resent-Sender: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: silver-list@eskimo.com archive/latest/21995 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com X-Loop: silver-list@eskimo.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 Dear Hope, Hi! Here`s the CS making info for you. I sure hope CS helps you as well as it did me! Here`s how to make CS: You`ll need 3 nine-volt batteries, (if you can afford the Lithiums they last 4 times longer than the alkalines do.) 2 alligator clips, the ones with two clips on either end of a plastic coated wire, 2 sets actually, which you can buy at Radio Shack, 2 pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge, 5 inches long, 2 cups of distilled water in a glass measuring cup. Now connect the batteries together, one snapped upside down onto the tops of the other two. This leaves two empty posts, a positive and a negative. Connect a clip to each post, and the other ends to the silver wires. Rinse the cup with distilled water to remove any dust or residue. Drop the wires into the distilled water, leaving the clips out of the water. Have the wires remain about one inch apart, with 4 inches in the water. They like to float around, so it can be a bit tricky. Some folks wrap theirs around a chopstick or pencil and balance that across the cup. A bend in the top of the wires works too. Don`t worry about being shocked, it doesn`t. Time for a half-hour, and check the