Re: CSAnimal grade ABX
When I had farm animals, I got mine from a veterinary supply catalog, where I got all my other animal medical preparations, including antibiotics (before I knew better!) Sharon Joe Fleck wrote: Where can you get epinephrine for treating anaphylaxis? Would Primatene inhalers do it? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAnimal grade ABX; anti-biotics' applications
Jeff, thank you very much! *and others too). Excellent comments, lots'a invaluable info! Much appreciated. I'm wondering if Canadian Vet standards meet or exceed the U.S.' standards (such as the 'USP') that was mentioned, when it comes to animal ABX. Also, there are several types of ABX out there, each more qualified for certain symptomologies, etc. - Any info/ suggestions there? Much thanks!! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAnimal grade ABX; anti-biotics' applications
In speaking with people that work in the animal division at Pfizer I tend to get the feeling that they produce a high quality product. I wouldn't be without a bottle of BP48 in the frig. I have a pair of German Shepherd bitches that have wanted to kill each other from day one. The BP48 has saved me many trips to the vet and associated $$$! I've also used it on myself, for months on end, to keep the Lyme Disease at bay. As I mentioned, epinephrine is good to have on hand. Bennidrill is also good for mild allergic reactions. And H2O2 is invaluable for stopping infections as well as chemically neutralizing skunk spray. I guess this is a good time to make sure your Y2K med chest is complete. Some sort of oral tetracycline is also good to have on hand. This combined with flagyl seems to be very effective against Lyme. It was just very hard to take...flat on my back and severely ill. When I stopped I would slowly regain my strength, and could then see improvement. CS seems to be just as effective without the toxic side effects. I can eat and not feel nauseous all of the time. Today I picked up 5 loads of fire wood in my truck! Though I'm herxing a bunch and am far from cured, I am more hopeful than I've been in many years. Thank God for CS and the great folks on this list! Jeff - K1LE J. wrote: Jeff, thank you very much! *and others too). Excellent comments, lots'a invaluable info! Much appreciated. I'm wondering if Canadian Vet standards meet or exceed the U.S.' standards (such as the 'USP') that was mentioned, when it comes to animal ABX. Also, there are several types of ABX out there, each more qualified for certain symptomologies, etc. - Any info/ suggestions there? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSAnimal grade ABX
I don't usually share this, but seeing as you asked...Yes, in many cases the animal grade is as good as the human grade. Sometimes it is even better controlled, because there is often a slaughter restriction time associated with the medication. This assures that it is out of the meat prior to human consumption. I've used certain veterinary injectables for Lyme disease. This was out of desperation when insurance failed to cover the therapy. The effect (herx) was exactly the same as experienced with the human grade. The major difference was cost (1/30th)! Words of caution: I don't endorse or encourage the off label use of any product. When injecting anything it is always possible to have an anaphylactic reaction and die. Failing to aspirate the syringe can result in a vascular injection which can also kill you quickly. Some animal meds are extremely irritating and not fit for use...unless you plan to go to slaughter where they cut that part out! That said, Pfizer BP48 is good to have in the frig, along with 3cc or 6cc monoject syringes. 25ga needles will work and they are small (my dogs like them best). It is hard to draw it up through a 25ga. What I do is put an 18ga in the bottle draw through it, remove the syringe, cap the needle hub, and leave the 18ga needle in the bottle. Then I install the 25ga needle on the syringe and do the injection. You can use the 25ga needle for both, but is hard to draw through and it dulls it a little when you pierce the rubber cap on the bottle. (the dogs dont like this!) Also, a bottle of epinephrine (cheep) in the frig is good to have, for many reasons. A very small syringe is what you want for this, as the dose is small. Jeff J. wrote: Speaking of antibiotics availability and Y2K, any idea if, since it's likely that drug prescriptions will be few and far between next year, Penicillin G for animals could safely be used on humans? Available now without a prescription. It is injectible... other such anti-biotics for animals are also readily available (for the time being) without a prescription. See the following link for an example of PenG for animals: http://www.lambriarvet.com/catalog/antibiotics4.htm I realize there are dosage and allergy concerns, but since it is termed sterile is it safe in humans, does anyone know? - Serious replies please! thanx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAnimal grade ABX
Where can you get epinephrine for treating anaphylaxis? Would Primatene inhalers do it? Jeffrey A. Madore wrote: I don't usually share this, but seeing as you asked...Yes, in many cases the animal grade is as good as the human grade. Sometimes it is even better controlled, because there is often a slaughter restriction time associated with the medication. This assures that it is out of the meat prior to human consumption. I've used certain veterinary injectables for Lyme disease. This was out of desperation when insurance failed to cover the therapy. The effect (herx) was exactly the same as experienced with the human grade. The major difference was cost (1/30th)! Words of caution: I don't endorse or encourage the off label use of any product. When injecting anything it is always possible to have an anaphylactic reaction and die. Failing to aspirate the syringe can result in a vascular injection which can also kill you quickly. Some animal meds are extremely irritating and not fit for use...unless you plan to go to slaughter where they cut that part out! That said, Pfizer BP48 is good to have in the frig, along with 3cc or 6cc monoject syringes. 25ga needles will work and they are small (my dogs like them best). It is hard to draw it up through a 25ga. What I do is put an 18ga in the bottle draw through it, remove the syringe, cap the needle hub, and leave the 18ga needle in the bottle. Then I install the 25ga needle on the syringe and do the injection. You can use the 25ga needle for both, but is hard to draw through and it dulls it a little when you pierce the rubber cap on the bottle. (the dogs dont like this!) Also, a bottle of epinephrine (cheep) in the frig is good to have, for many reasons. A very small syringe is what you want for this, as the dose is small. Jeff J. wrote: Speaking of antibiotics availability and Y2K, any idea if, since it's likely that drug prescriptions will be few and far between next year, Penicillin G for animals could safely be used on humans? Available now without a prescription. It is injectible... other such anti-biotics for animals are also readily available (for the time being) without a prescription. See the following link for an example of PenG for animals: http://www.lambriarvet.com/catalog/antibiotics4.htm I realize there are dosage and allergy concerns, but since it is termed sterile is it safe in humans, does anyone know? - Serious replies please! thanx -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAnimal grade ABX
We breed Airedale terriers and raise goats, and always have a bottle or two of epinephrine in the fridge, for bad reactions. A small bottle of it, from the vet, is about $4.00. Last time I bought it at a Farm and Country store, right out of the refrigerator there. Sparrow Where can you get epinephrine for treating anaphylaxis? Would Primatene inhalers do it? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
