Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
James We just got a worm from you. Innoculate picked up a worm from your message saying (not this message) that you were virus free, from what I could read of your message. You are not. I hope we are not infected there was no attachment with it. Innoculate picked it up, but we couldn't delete it. I deleted the message able and below, which is how we got rid of it, but we are checking the hard drive now. Could you tell me if I send anything with this please... Tracy - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2001 05:18 Subject: RE: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Neither I nor anyone I know, nor any research I have seen contraindicates irrigation of a surgical wound with CS. See: http://www.silverlon.com/user.html James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the gall bladder?? HI Christiane I am replying to you because the MALES on this list are not! Come on you guys - some of you must have a better idea than I - please help Christiane out on this - don't be too busy doing the science stuff to be no practical help to this little girl. I know its an area that is a hard one, but some of you must know somethingplease reply to her. Tracy - Original Message - From: John Osowiecki ti...@peoplepc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 07:11 Subject: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS in the gall bladder??
InoculateIt flagged the file. I think it stopped the worm. The box in my message is just a screen snapshot of the message from the antivirus catching the worm. I immediately deleted the infected file. I just ran the antivirus again on the entire HD. It came back negative, after identifying the worm the first time. How do you know you are infected? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 2:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the gall bladder?? James We just got a worm from you. Innoculate picked up a worm from your message saying (not this message) that you were virus free, from what I could read of your message. You are not. I hope we are not infected there was no attachment with it. Innoculate picked it up, but we couldn't delete it. I deleted the message able and below, which is how we got rid of it, but we are checking the hard drive now. Could you tell me if I send anything with this please... Tracy - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2001 05:18 Subject: RE: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Neither I nor anyone I know, nor any research I have seen contraindicates irrigation of a surgical wound with CS. See: http://www.silverlon.com/user.html James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the gall bladder?? HI Christiane I am replying to you because the MALES on this list are not! Come on you guys - some of you must have a better idea than I - please help Christiane out on this - don't be too busy doing the science stuff to be no practical help to this little girl. I know its an area that is a hard one, but some of you must know somethingplease reply to her. Tracy - Original Message - From: John Osowiecki ti...@peoplepc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 07:11 Subject: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
We arn't - cos we did the same as you. We ran a virus check on the HD. Tracy - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2001 12:35 Subject: RE: CSCS in the gall bladder?? InoculateIt flagged the file. I think it stopped the worm. The box in my message is just a screen snapshot of the message from the antivirus catching the worm. I immediately deleted the infected file. I just ran the antivirus again on the entire HD. It came back negative, after identifying the worm the first time. How do you know you are infected? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 2:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the gall bladder?? James We just got a worm from you. Innoculate picked up a worm from your message saying (not this message) that you were virus free, from what I could read of your message. You are not. I hope we are not infected there was no attachment with it. Innoculate picked it up, but we couldn't delete it. I deleted the message able and below, which is how we got rid of it, but we are checking the hard drive now. Could you tell me if I send anything with this please... Tracy - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2001 05:18 Subject: RE: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Neither I nor anyone I know, nor any research I have seen contraindicates irrigation of a surgical wound with CS. See: http://www.silverlon.com/user.html James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the gall bladder?? HI Christiane I am replying to you because the MALES on this list are not! Come on you guys - some of you must have a better idea than I - please help Christiane out on this - don't be too busy doing the science stuff to be no practical help to this little girl. I know its an area that is a hard one, but some of you must know somethingplease reply to her. Tracy - Original Message - From: John Osowiecki ti...@peoplepc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 07:11 Subject: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http
RE: CSCS in the gall bladder??
Yes, that would be sensible, CK. Thanks. Ivan -Original Message- From: Kehoe [mailto:ke...@ticon.net] Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2001 1:20 p.m. To: *Silver-List* (E-mail) Subject: Re: CSCS in the gall bladder?? If the bile does enter into the small intestine, shouldn't you be sure to add probiotics to the diet in case it kills the good bacteria?? CK -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
The best I can do is an educated guess. The salts would most likely be chlorides. Thus if they combined with the ionic portion of CS would form silver chloride. Silver Chloride is almost insoluble in water, so much of it would precipitate out immediately. What is left should be of such low concentration that Argyria would not be a problem. Marshall Nick Grant wrote: HI Christiane I am replying to you because the MALES on this list are not! Come on you guys - some of you must have a better idea than I - please help Christiane out on this - don't be too busy doing the science stuff to be no practical help to this little girl. I know its an area that is a hard one, but some of you must know somethingplease reply to her. Tracy - Original Message - From: John Osowiecki ti...@peoplepc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 07:11 Subject: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS in the gall bladder??
Neither I nor anyone I know, nor any research I have seen contraindicates irrigation of a surgical wound with CS. See: http://www.silverlon.com/user.html James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in the gall bladder?? HI Christiane I am replying to you because the MALES on this list are not! Come on you guys - some of you must have a better idea than I - please help Christiane out on this - don't be too busy doing the science stuff to be no practical help to this little girl. I know its an area that is a hard one, but some of you must know somethingplease reply to her. Tracy - Original Message - From: John Osowiecki ti...@peoplepc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 07:11 Subject: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
If the bile does enter into the small intestine, shouldn't you be sure to add probiotics to the diet in case it kills the good bacteria?? CK - Original Message - From: I Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 3:02 AM Subject: RE: CSCS in the gall bladder?? | Christiane, | | The gallbladder functions to store and concentrate the bile | manufactured in the liver, for eventual delivery to the small | intestine via the cystic duct. In doing this the gallbladder absorbs | water and ions from the bile into the gallbladder mucosa. | | Bile consists of mainly water and bile acids, bile salts, cholesterol, | a phospholipid called lecithin, bile pigments and several ions. | Bile salts are sodium and potassium salts of bile acids. The bile has | a pH of 7.6 - 8.6. | | Most of the bile salts are reabsorbed in the end part of the small | intestine (Ileum) and enter the portal blood flowing toward the liver. | | I can see no reason not to treat the gallbladder directly with CS. As | the gallbladder drains directly into the small intestine, much of the | CS will be lost in the faeces. You could not introduce enough silver | (grams) by this method to cause argyria. | | As much of the CS is probably complexed by the bile acids etc. I | should think that small but frequent applications would be a | reasonable approach. I am not sure of the physical method that | flushing describes...does that mean filling the gallbladder and then | draining it? If so, how many times could you do this a day? In any | event, it would be wise to continue the CS flush for a week or so | after the bile becomes clear, as it seems the seat of the infection | had not been cleared thus far. | | It is my opinion that argyria is not a consideration in this matter, | and that your guide should be, your judgment as to the elimination of | the infection. | | Some wiser heads than mine might venture an opinion as to whether | adding a small amount of DMSO to the CS might make the treatment more | effective. | You might also consider magnetic pulsing as an adjunct. | | Kind regards | Ivan. | | -Original Message- | From: John Osowiecki [mailto:ti...@peoplepc.com] | Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 7:12 a.m. | To: silver-list@eskimo.com | Subject: CSCS in the gall bladder?? | | | Hello All, | I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete | experience with, | but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions | on the risks, | or lack there of.of putting CS directly | into the gall | bladder. | | My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall | bladder to drain her | bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the | hospital with her for | 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an | infection of Staph in | her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to | notice her | bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. | | Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and | the floaties came | back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery | generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall | bladder. I did | this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties | disappeared. Now it is 3 | days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the | tube again this | morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. | | My questions are these. | | ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer | the CS to have | complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as | minimally as | possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile | is clear again? | | ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different | substances..many of which | are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk | of the bile | salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? | | Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that | is | keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any | other | option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to | remove it. I don't | want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God | knows that the | drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than | changing color. | | Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice | you can give, or | any questions you may have. | Thank you again, | God Bless, | Christiane | | | | -- | The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. | | To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: | silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com | with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. | | To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com | Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html | List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com | |
Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
Hey, I have loads of practice in kicking butt - just ask my kids and husband grin, no seriously - thanks guys for responding. Tracy - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 21:29 Subject: Re: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Thanks Tracy, for kicking butt. Giving advice about some's sick kid is risky. Personally it is easier to keep quiet. However. T -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
Hullo Christiane and John, My opinion, based on reading and personal experience is that the risk of getting argyria form CS is so small as to be insignificant, even if massive doses are taken. You are introducing 10cc and it is having a noticible beneficial effect. I would carry on with that and maybe even dose a few times a day. I would also give CS as a good food several times a day, again 10cc three or four per day would be a good start. This should help to clean her system. Obviously monitor the progress; if it seems too strong then back off to half or less, if its seems to be working sufficiently then carry on until she is really well. If it is working but could be better, then increase the dosage dosage slowly. Spraying or soaking with CS around the tube entry wound would also help. I have found that minute amounts of H2O2 have a powerful effect. 1 or 2 drops of 6% in 250cc (8oz) CS. This seems to help the CS do its work. I would be very cautious about putting this down the gallbladder tube. Start with say 1cc. But dring it seems to be very helpful. Regards, Tony John Osowiecki wrote: Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
Thanks Tracy, for kicking butt. Giving advice about some's sick kid is risky. Personally it is easier to keep quiet. However. T -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS in the gall bladder??
Christiane, The gallbladder functions to store and concentrate the bile manufactured in the liver, for eventual delivery to the small intestine via the cystic duct. In doing this the gallbladder absorbs water and ions from the bile into the gallbladder mucosa. Bile consists of mainly water and bile acids, bile salts, cholesterol, a phospholipid called lecithin, bile pigments and several ions. Bile salts are sodium and potassium salts of bile acids. The bile has a pH of 7.6 - 8.6. Most of the bile salts are reabsorbed in the end part of the small intestine (Ileum) and enter the portal blood flowing toward the liver. I can see no reason not to treat the gallbladder directly with CS. As the gallbladder drains directly into the small intestine, much of the CS will be lost in the faeces. You could not introduce enough silver (grams) by this method to cause argyria. As much of the CS is probably complexed by the bile acids etc. I should think that small but frequent applications would be a reasonable approach. I am not sure of the physical method that flushing describes...does that mean filling the gallbladder and then draining it? If so, how many times could you do this a day? In any event, it would be wise to continue the CS flush for a week or so after the bile becomes clear, as it seems the seat of the infection had not been cleared thus far. It is my opinion that argyria is not a consideration in this matter, and that your guide should be, your judgment as to the elimination of the infection. Some wiser heads than mine might venture an opinion as to whether adding a small amount of DMSO to the CS might make the treatment more effective. You might also consider magnetic pulsing as an adjunct. Kind regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: John Osowiecki [mailto:ti...@peoplepc.com] Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 7:12 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
I`m just wondering what is wrong with the gallbladder, and why they didn`t just remove it? I`m doing fine without mine... Keep up the CS, IMHO it won`t hurt. Marshalee Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS in the gall bladder??
Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in the gall bladder??
HI Christiane I am replying to you because the MALES on this list are not! Come on you guys - some of you must have a better idea than I - please help Christiane out on this - don't be too busy doing the science stuff to be no practical help to this little girl. I know its an area that is a hard one, but some of you must know somethingplease reply to her. Tracy - Original Message - From: John Osowiecki ti...@peoplepc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 07:11 Subject: CSCS in the gall bladder?? Hello All, I know that this is a question that no one has any concrete experience with, but I know that some of you may have some educated opinions on the risks, or lack there of.of putting CS directly into the gall bladder. My 5 year old daughter has a tube coming from her gall bladder to drain her bile on a daily basis. Last month, we ended up in the hospital with her for 17 days and had a surgery, because the tube caused an infection of Staph in her gall bladder. Before she had been admitted, I started to notice her bile getting thick, and cloudy, with some white floaties in it. Well, a few days ago, her bile got thick again.and the floaties came back. I decided to put 10cc's of CS (approx 5ppm made with battery generator) directly into her tubedirectly into her gall bladder. I did this for 2 days, and the thickness and floaties disappeared. Now it is 3 days later, and there are floaties again. I flushed the tube again this morning with 10cc's of 5ppm CS. My questions are these. ~Does anyone have a theory of how long I should administer the CS to have complete relief of the infection? I would like to use it as minimally as possible..Is it sufficient to only use it until the bile is clear again? ~ Bile is made of hundreds of different substances..many of which are referred to as bile salts. Is there a theoretical risk of the bile salts combining with the CS and causing argyria? Please know..this gall bladder tube is the only thing that is keeping my daughter alive right now. The doctors don't have any other option. If it keeps getting infected they will have to remove it. I don't want that. I would rather have her alive and gray. God knows that the drugs they have her on can cause MUCH worse problems than changing color. Thank you so much for your input. I am open to any advice you can give, or any questions you may have. Thank you again, God Bless, Christiane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
