CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes
Hi Ruth, The floaters moves aroundI was 2 times to the eye doctor I don' t like the moving spots on my eye,but I can live with them...hope no more will come. I am always afraid,my grandmother was blind...because of diabetesbut I have no diabetes at all. Everything is very strange to me,my kidney doctor said something was wrong with my kidneys...now another doctor ,this year, said ..you can live as well with only 1/3 of your kidneys,don't worry.(be happy) That was after I took a lot of silverwater some time agomaybe it cured everything...I feel better as last year. Thanks a lot for your answer. Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Hi, Trudy, A black spot that always stays there makes me think of an eye problem called macular degeneration. Does the spot move around. or does it stay in exactly the same place all the time? If it stays in the same place and doesn't move around, you need to see your eye doctor right away! Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:53:04 +0100 Hello Mike I wish I could find a doctor or someone else who take out my floaters. My sister in law had the same and is operated in an academical hospital and became blind at one eyemaybe a mistake...so my eye specialist said nothing to do on my floaters. The last spot I 've got when my husband was on the hospital for an instant heart attacksomething went wrong in my eye...and it always stayed there...a black spot. I will ask the doctor if there is a possibillity...you hear it after 19 of december. Meanwhile I always take a little CS and going stronger with the wonderwater I wish I could tell it better in English...I am glad you wrote back and I can ask my homeopatic doctor next week ,he is also an acupuncture doctor...not with needles but with electric tools...will that be a good idea? Thanks for answering my question, Trudy - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:40 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Dear Gertrude, You wrote: ... floatersthey don' t go away..with acupuncture,impossible. I've come a *very* long way in the last decade, and one of the things I've come to accept is that there are some unlikely sounding things that turn out to be true in alternative medicine. I don't know specifically about accupuncture and various eye problems, like floaters, but I'm a *LOT* less willing to use the word impossible now than a few years ago. smile I have floaters too and the doctor could not take them away. There are many folks here and in other alternative health forums I've visted who've proved the doctors wrong many times. We don't ignore them, but we evaluate what they say on an even basis with what we learn from our own work and that of other people we come to trust. We've learned that doctors are forced to ignore many worthwhile ideas, leaving it up to us to research and evaluate them for ourselves. There have been several suggestions offered earlier in this thread that sound promising. When I hear a success story from somebody like Chuck, who's been in the group for years, who's *not* trying to sell anything, and has given other reliable information in the past, I'm going to listen very carefully. Each of us have to define our personal standards of what to believe. When I hear an idea from people I know who don't have a commercial interest, if it is reasonably easy/cheap/simple to test, and my experience or research makes me reasonably confident that it's safe... I will try new things, even when they seem a little unlikely by conventional standards. That's what works for me. shrug Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.20/588 - Release Date: 15-12-2006 _ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmk --
Re: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes
lots of herbs to tonify kidney. in TCM, they are the batteries which supply the body with all its foundational energy. - Original Message - From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Hi Ruth, The floaters moves aroundI was 2 times to the eye doctor I don' t like the moving spots on my eye,but I can live with them...hope no more will come. I am always afraid,my grandmother was blind...because of diabetesbut I have no diabetes at all. Everything is very strange to me,my kidney doctor said something was wrong with my kidneys...now another doctor ,this year, said ..you can live as well with only 1/3 of your kidneys,don't worry.(be happy) That was after I took a lot of silverwater some time agomaybe it cured everything...I feel better as last year. Thanks a lot for your answer. Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Hi, Trudy, A black spot that always stays there makes me think of an eye problem called macular degeneration. Does the spot move around. or does it stay in exactly the same place all the time? If it stays in the same place and doesn't move around, you need to see your eye doctor right away! Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:53:04 +0100 Hello Mike I wish I could find a doctor or someone else who take out my floaters. My sister in law had the same and is operated in an academical hospital and became blind at one eyemaybe a mistake...so my eye specialist said nothing to do on my floaters. The last spot I 've got when my husband was on the hospital for an instant heart attacksomething went wrong in my eye...and it always stayed there...a black spot. I will ask the doctor if there is a possibillity...you hear it after 19 of december. Meanwhile I always take a little CS and going stronger with the wonderwater I wish I could tell it better in English...I am glad you wrote back and I can ask my homeopatic doctor next week ,he is also an acupuncture doctor...not with needles but with electric tools...will that be a good idea? Thanks for answering my question, Trudy - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:40 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Dear Gertrude, You wrote: ... floatersthey don' t go away..with acupuncture,impossible. I've come a *very* long way in the last decade, and one of the things I've come to accept is that there are some unlikely sounding things that turn out to be true in alternative medicine. I don't know specifically about accupuncture and various eye problems, like floaters, but I'm a *LOT* less willing to use the word impossible now than a few years ago. smile I have floaters too and the doctor could not take them away. There are many folks here and in other alternative health forums I've visted who've proved the doctors wrong many times. We don't ignore them, but we evaluate what they say on an even basis with what we learn from our own work and that of other people we come to trust. We've learned that doctors are forced to ignore many worthwhile ideas, leaving it up to us to research and evaluate them for ourselves. There have been several suggestions offered earlier in this thread that sound promising. When I hear a success story from somebody like Chuck, who's been in the group for years, who's *not* trying to sell anything, and has given other reliable information in the past, I'm going to listen very carefully. Each of us have to define our personal standards of what to believe. When I hear an idea from people I know who don't have a commercial interest, if it is reasonably easy/cheap/simple to test, and my experience or research makes me reasonably confident that it's safe... I will try new things, even when they seem a little unlikely by conventional standards. That's what works for me. shrug Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.20/588 - Release Date: 15-12-2006
Re: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes
Dear Trudy,, I'm glad to hear that the spots do move around. The macular degeneration thing does end in near-blindness. You can't see out of the center of your eyes, only around the edges. I have floaters, too and they move around, also light flashes when I go from a dark area to a light area, or is it the other way around. I don't really notice either one very much any more unless I am thinking about it. A Blessed Holiday to you and yours. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefuln...@comcast.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:28:13 -0600 lots of herbs to tonify kidney. in TCM, they are the batteries which supply the body with all its foundational energy. - Original Message - From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Hi Ruth, The floaters moves aroundI was 2 times to the eye doctor I don' t like the moving spots on my eye,but I can live with them...hope no more will come. I am always afraid,my grandmother was blind...because of diabetesbut I have no diabetes at all. Everything is very strange to me,my kidney doctor said something was wrong with my kidneys...now another doctor ,this year, said ..you can live as well with only 1/3 of your kidneys,don't worry.(be happy) That was after I took a lot of silverwater some time agomaybe it cured everything...I feel better as last year. Thanks a lot for your answer. Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Hi, Trudy, A black spot that always stays there makes me think of an eye problem called macular degeneration. Does the spot move around. or does it stay in exactly the same place all the time? If it stays in the same place and doesn't move around, you need to see your eye doctor right away! Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:53:04 +0100 Hello Mike I wish I could find a doctor or someone else who take out my floaters. My sister in law had the same and is operated in an academical hospital and became blind at one eyemaybe a mistake...so my eye specialist said nothing to do on my floaters. The last spot I 've got when my husband was on the hospital for an instant heart attacksomething went wrong in my eye...and it always stayed there...a black spot. I will ask the doctor if there is a possibillity...you hear it after 19 of december. Meanwhile I always take a little CS and going stronger with the wonderwater I wish I could tell it better in English...I am glad you wrote back and I can ask my homeopatic doctor next week ,he is also an acupuncture doctor...not with needles but with electric tools...will that be a good idea? Thanks for answering my question, Trudy - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:40 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Dear Gertrude, You wrote: ... floatersthey don' t go away..with acupuncture,impossible. I've come a *very* long way in the last decade, and one of the things I've come to accept is that there are some unlikely sounding things that turn out to be true in alternative medicine. I don't know specifically about accupuncture and various eye problems, like floaters, but I'm a *LOT* less willing to use the word impossible now than a few years ago. smile I have floaters too and the doctor could not take them away. There are many folks here and in other alternative health forums I've visted who've proved the doctors wrong many times. We don't ignore them, but we evaluate what they say on an even basis with what we learn from our own work and that of other people we come to trust. We've learned that doctors are forced to ignore many worthwhile ideas, leaving it up to us to research and evaluate them for ourselves. There have been several suggestions offered earlier in this thread that sound promising. When I hear a success story from somebody like Chuck, who's been in the group for years, who's *not* trying to sell anything, and has given other reliable information in the past, I'm going to listen very carefully. Each of us have to define our personal standards of what to believe. When I hear an idea from people I know who don't have a commercial interest, if it is reasonably easy/cheap/simple to test, and my experience or research makes me reasonably confident that it's safe... I will try new things, even when they seem a little unlikely by conventional standards. That's what works for me. shrug Be well
Re: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes
Yes Ruth exactly what you prescribed : floaters and flasheswe have new year in our eyes...already...haha I'm looking for the herbal eye products of dr.Christoffer...I saw the name often in Germany. A Blessed Holiday to you and yours too and every one of this nice forum. I - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:39 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Dear Trudy,, I'm glad to hear that the spots do move around. The macular degeneration thing does end in near-blindness. You can't see out of the center of your eyes, only around the edges. I have floaters, too and they move around, also light flashes when I go from a dark area to a light area, or is it the other way around. I don't really notice either one very much any more unless I am thinking about it. A Blessed Holiday to you and yours. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefuln...@comcast.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:28:13 -0600 lots of herbs to tonify kidney. in TCM, they are the batteries which supply the body with all its foundational energy. - Original Message - From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: CSFw: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Hi Ruth, The floaters moves aroundI was 2 times to the eye doctor I don' t like the moving spots on my eye,but I can live with them...hope no more will come. I am always afraid,my grandmother was blind...because of diabetesbut I have no diabetes at all. Everything is very strange to me,my kidney doctor said something was wrong with my kidneys...now another doctor ,this year, said ..you can live as well with only 1/3 of your kidneys,don't worry.(be happy) That was after I took a lot of silverwater some time agomaybe it cured everything...I feel better as last year. Thanks a lot for your answer. Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Hi, Trudy, A black spot that always stays there makes me think of an eye problem called macular degeneration. Does the spot move around. or does it stay in exactly the same place all the time? If it stays in the same place and doesn't move around, you need to see your eye doctor right away! Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:53:04 +0100 Hello Mike I wish I could find a doctor or someone else who take out my floaters. My sister in law had the same and is operated in an academical hospital and became blind at one eyemaybe a mistake...so my eye specialist said nothing to do on my floaters. The last spot I 've got when my husband was on the hospital for an instant heart attacksomething went wrong in my eye...and it always stayed there...a black spot. I will ask the doctor if there is a possibillity...you hear it after 19 of december. Meanwhile I always take a little CS and going stronger with the wonderwater I wish I could tell it better in English...I am glad you wrote back and I can ask my homeopatic doctor next week ,he is also an acupuncture doctor...not with needles but with electric tools...will that be a good idea? Thanks for answering my question, Trudy - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:40 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Dear Gertrude, You wrote: ... floatersthey don' t go away..with acupuncture,impossible. I've come a *very* long way in the last decade, and one of the things I've come to accept is that there are some unlikely sounding things that turn out to be true in alternative medicine. I don't know specifically about accupuncture and various eye problems, like floaters, but I'm a *LOT* less willing to use the word impossible now than a few years ago. smile I have floaters too and the doctor could not take them away. There are many folks here and in other alternative health forums I've visted who've proved the doctors wrong many times. We don't ignore them, but we evaluate what they say on an even basis with what we learn from our own work and that of other people we come to trust. We've learned that doctors are forced to ignore many worthwhile ideas, leaving it up to us to research and evaluate them for ourselves. There have been several suggestions offered earlier in this thread that sound promising. When I hear a success story from somebody like Chuck, who's been in the group for years, who's *not* trying to sell anything
