Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
Rain water IS distilled water. However, the jug it comes in is pretty dirty, full of sulfates and nitrates, gasses and vapors and has to be rinsed well before using. Be aware of what's upwind and the accumulations of waiting for the rain on collection surfaces. Ode At 02:48 PM 3/21/2010 +0800, you wrote: What is the current thinking on using rain water for making CS? I seem to recall that in the past the general opinion was that one should only use distilled. I have to buy my distilled water, and although here in Western Australia that is at least possible, it is expensive and inconvenient. This Australian winter, I expect to have access to fresh rain water, and have been thinking of bringing it home in big clear water fountain bottles and using that for drinking water (we do have reverse osmosis, but I am gathering from what I read that some of the worst chemicals are not actually completely filtered out by the filters) and also perhaps for CS unless there is some overwhelming reason why it should not be so used. I would upend the bottles on our ceramic water dispenser and use it for general consumption also. This water would be gathered on a huge metal roof and stored in metal rainwater tanks. I suspect this might engender some potential objection, but I don't know. I would go and fill the bottle for a charitable donation, and bring them home for use. The first rains of the season would be allowed to run away to flush dust off the roof before it was directed via simple filters to the new tanks. It would be collected in the country from clouds probably blown up from Antarctica, anyway from the Indian or Southern Oceans. Why I like this idea is that the bottles would not come from a factory that is forced by law to protect the inside of the storage bottle with chemicals for hygiene. It would also not contain echoes or particles or suggestions of water treatment chemicals; although our water here is basically of high quality, it does have standard chemicals added to it. Rowena Down Under Grow medicinal herbs,forage for wild foods, catch and filter your own water, make your own colloidal silver, explore alternative methods of healthcare and develop a wellness support network wherever you are sharing remedies and information. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
What is the current thinking on using rain water for making CS? I seem to recall that in the past the general opinion was that one should only use distilled. I have to buy my distilled water, and although here in Western Australia that is at least possible, it is expensive and inconvenient. This Australian winter, I expect to have access to fresh rain water, and have been thinking of bringing it home in big clear water fountain bottles and using that for drinking water (we do have reverse osmosis, but I am gathering from what I read that some of the worst chemicals are not actually completely filtered out by the filters) and also perhaps for CS unless there is some overwhelming reason why it should not be so used. I would upend the bottles on our ceramic water dispenser and use it for general consumption also. This water would be gathered on a huge metal roof and stored in metal rainwater tanks. I suspect this might engender some potential objection, but I don't know. I would go and fill the bottle for a charitable donation, and bring them home for use. The first rains of the season would be allowed to run away to flush dust off the roof before it was directed via simple filters to the new tanks. It would be collected in the country from clouds probably blown up from Antarctica, anyway from the Indian or Southern Oceans. Why I like this idea is that the bottles would not come from a factory that is forced by law to protect the inside of the storage bottle with chemicals for hygiene. It would also not contain echoes or particles or suggestions of water treatment chemicals; although our water here is basically of high quality, it does have standard chemicals added to it. Rowena Down Under Grow medicinal herbs,forage for wild foods, catch and filter your own water, make your own colloidal silver, explore alternative methods of healthcare and develop a wellness support network wherever you are sharing remedies and information.
Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
I would get a TDS or PWA meter and base my decisions on what readings I'd accept as maximum. Chuck I don't question YOUR existence. - God On 3/21/2010 2:48:01 AM, Rowena (new...@internode.on.net) wrote: What is the current thinking on using rain water for making CS? I seem to recall that in the past the general opinion was that one should only use distilled. I have to buy my distilled water, and although here in Western Australia that is at least possible, it is expensive and inconvenient. This Australian winter, I expect to have access to fresh rain water, and have been thinking of bringing it home in big clear water fountain bottles and using that for drinking water (we do have reverse osmosis, but I am gathering from what I read that some of the worst chemicals are not actually completely filtered out by the filters) and also perhaps for CS unless there is some overwhelming reason why it should not be so used. I would upend the bottles on our ceramic water dispenser and use it for general consumption also. This water would be gathered on a huge metal roof and stored in metal rainwater tanks. I suspect this might engender some potential objection, but I don't know. I would go and fill the bottle for a charitable donation, and bring them home for use. The first rains of the season would be allowed to run away to flush dust off the roof before it was directed via simple filters to the -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
I won't use tank water for my everyday EIS ingestion, but I do use it in conjunction with an old battery generator for emergency use cos I can get high silver content solution...and real quick. Ideally it would be good if I could collect it straight from the sky rather than runoff from the galvo roof, but I'm not that bothered about it, I've been drinking it for over 40 years and I'm still alive and kicking g. I live in a steel producing town too, but then I got a lead smelter a few K's across the water on one side and a power station 70 odd K's up the road from here so you can imagine what crap is in the air from these three industries, nevertheless, I know it isn't going to kill me, or turn me blue or green or whatever other colour, so I don't have a problem with it...for the circumstances and duration in which I use it. That's not been my 'thinking' but rather my 'practice' for several years now. I use 'El-cheapo' DW for normal everyday consumption of EIS, under $1 a litre here. N. Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:48:01 +0800 From: new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS? What is the current thinking on using rain water for making CS? I seem to recall that in the past the general opinion was that one should only use distilled. I have to buy my distilled water, and although here in Western Australia that is at least possible, it is expensive and inconvenient. This Australian winter, I expect to have access to fresh rain water, and have been thinking of bringing it home in big clear water fountain bottles and using that for drinking water (we do have reverse osmosis, but I am gathering from what I read that some of the worst chemicals are not actually completely filtered out by the filters) and also perhaps for CS unless there is some overwhelming reason why it should not be so used. I would upend the bottles on our ceramic water dispenser and use it for general consumption also. This water would be gathered on a huge metal roof and stored in metal rainwater tanks. I suspect this might engender some potential objection, but I don't know. I would go and fill the bottle for a charitable donation, and bring them home for use. The first rains of the season would be allowed to run away to flush dust off the roof before it was directed via simple filters to the new tanks. It would be collected in the country from clouds probably blown up from Antarctica, anyway from the Indian or Southern Oceans. Why I like this idea is that the bottles would not come from a factory that is forced by law to protect the inside of the storage bottle with chemicals for hygiene. It would also not contain echoes or particles or suggestions of water treatment chemicals; although our water here is basically of high quality, it does have standard chemicals added to it. Rowena Down Under Grow medicinal herbs,forage for wild foods, catch and filter your own water, make your own colloidal silver, explore alternative methods of healthcare and develop a wellness support network wherever you are sharing remedies and information. _ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now. http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G
Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
I'm in the southern US and a friend taught me that where he grew up the first rain is called The waters of the birth of the earth. and they are considered very healing. So I caught the first sprig rain in pots I set out that I made sure were especially well washed and when I had enough I filtered it through a couple of coffee filters and put it in another well washed container and into the refrigerator. Several months later I noticed there was something growing in the container. I guess my point is, it is not only chemicals you need to look out for from rain water. I had never thought about it before that but when I made my own sourdough starter for bread one time I just set out some flour, water and a little sugar with a piece of cheesecloth on it and 'caught' yeast... so they are everywhere and unless filtered out could end up in the water you are using. I have also lived on an island that used large cisterns for water collection. It was amazing what was found in the cisterns when they were cleaned out. Made me not even want to shower in the water much less drink it! PT - Original Message - From: Rowena To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:48 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS? What is the current thinking on using rain water for making CS? I seem to recall that in the past the general opinion was that one should only use distilled. I have to buy my distilled water, and although here in Western Australia that is at least possible, it is expensive and inconvenient. This Australian winter, I expect to have access to fresh rain water, and have been thinking of bringing it home in big clear water fountain bottles and using that for drinking water (we do have reverse osmosis, but I am gathering from what I read that some of the worst chemicals are not actually completely filtered out by the filters) and also perhaps for CS unless there is some overwhelming reason why it should not be so used. I would upend the bottles on our ceramic water dispenser and use it for general consumption also. This water would be gathered on a huge metal roof and stored in metal rainwater tanks. I suspect this might engender some potential objection, but I don't know. I would go and fill the bottle for a charitable donation, and bring them home for use. The first rains of the season would be allowed to run away to flush dust off the roof before it was directed via simple filters to the new tanks. It would be collected in the country from clouds probably blown up from Antarctica, anyway from the Indian or Southern Oceans. Why I like this idea is that the bottles would not come from a factory that is forced by law to protect the inside of the storage bottle with chemicals for hygiene. It would also not contain echoes or particles or suggestions of water treatment chemicals; although our water here is basically of high quality, it does have standard chemicals added to it. Rowena Down Under Grow medicinal herbs,forage for wild foods, catch and filter your own water, make your own colloidal silver, explore alternative methods of healthcare and develop a wellness support network wherever you are sharing remedies and information.
Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
Rainwater is not pure enough I believe, and contains many things other than just water. Most think distilled is the way to go. You can buy a cheap distiller (as I have) and make it cheaper than you can buy it - which is what I was doing. dee On 21 Mar 2010, at 06:48, Rowena wrote: What is the current thinking on using rain water for making CS? I seem to recall that in the past the general opinion was that one should only use distilled. I have to buy my distilled water, and although here in Western Australia that is at least possible, it is expensive and inconvenient. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
Eeek! Hmm, yeah! And I had forgotten that they say rain droplets form around particles of dust, anyway. So no matter how clean the air above your home, there's dust in each drop. What kind of dust? Depends on what got blown up there in that dust storm in that old abandoned mine site... Oh well. Rowena I'm in the southern US and a friend taught me that where he grew up the first rain is called The waters of the birth of the earth. and they are considered very healing. So I caught the first sprig rain in pots I set out that I made sure were especially well washed and when I had enough I filtered it through a couple of coffee filters and put it in another well washed container and into the refrigerator. Several months later I noticed there was something growing in the container. I guess my point is, it is not only chemicals you need to look out for from rain water. I had never thought about it before that but when I made my own sourdough starter for bread one time I just set out some flour, water and a little sugar with a piece of cheesecloth on it and 'caught' yeast... so they are everywhere and unless filtered out could end up in the water you are using. I have also lived on an island that used large cisterns for water collection. It was amazing what was found in the cisterns when they were cleaned out. Made me not even want to shower in the water much less drink it! PT - Original Message - From: Rowena To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:48 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS? What is the current thinking on using rain water for making CS? I seem to recall that in the past the general opinion was that one should only use distilled. I have to buy my distilled water, and although here in Western Australia that is at least possible, it is expensive and inconvenient. This Australian winter, I expect to have access to fresh rain water, and have been thinking of bringing it home in big clear water fountain bottles and using that for drinking water (we do have reverse osmosis, but I am gathering from what I read that some of the worst chemicals are not actually completely filtered out by the filters) and also perhaps for CS unless there is some overwhelming reason why it should not be so used. I would upend the bottles on our ceramic water dispenser and use it for general consumption also. This water would be gathered on a huge metal roof and stored in metal rainwater tanks. I suspect this might engender some potential objection, but I don't know. I would go and fill the bottle for a charitable donation, and bring them home for use. The first rains of the season would be allowed to run away to flush dust off the roof before it was directed via simple filters to the new tanks. It would be collected in the country from clouds probably blown up from Antarctica, anyway from the Indian or Southern Oceans. Why I like this idea is that the bottles would not come from a factory that is forced by law to protect the inside of the storage bottle with chemicals for hygiene. It would also not contain echoes or particles or suggestions of water treatment chemicals; although our water here is basically of high quality, it does have standard chemicals added to it. Rowena Down Under Grow medicinal herbs,forage for wild foods, catch and filter your own water, make your own colloidal silver, explore alternative methods of healthcare and develop a wellness support network wherever you are sharing remedies and information. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
And please, don't forget about chemtrails and all the chemicals that are being sprayed on us. Barbara Eeek! Hmm, yeah! And I had forgotten that they say rain droplets form around particles of dust, anyway. So no matter how clean the air above your home, there's dust in each drop. What kind of dust? Depends on what got blown up there in that dust storm in that old abandoned mine site... Oh well. Rowena
Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain water for CS?
Hi Rowena, I use pure roof and well water tp make EIS with a current controlled device. The rainwater off the roof is stored in a concrete reservoir; when we run out of rain water we pump from a borehole into the same reservoir. We live in a village which has piped, treated water, but we have locked that supply closed because it makes us ill and ruins the veggies and I would not use that to make EIS; its unhealthy to start with. I live in a fairly remote village in the mountains in South Africa. That is the way I make EIS for myself even when I lived in the big city. The process is very much quicker than with distilled water. There is no need to store the product because it literally takes a few minutes to make. If you are going to sell the stuff then it would be a good idea to use good quality distilled water for its keeping quality. OK, Tony On 21 Mar 2010 at 14:48, Rowena wrote about : Subject : Re: CSFw: Lest We Forget - rain wa What is the current thinking on using rain water for making CS? I seem to recall that in the past the general opinion was that one should only use distilled. I have to buy my distilled water, and although here in Western Australia that is at least possible, it is expensive and inconvenient. This Australian winter, I expect to have access to fresh rain water, and have been thinking of bringing it home in big clear water fountain bottles and using that for drinking water (we do have reverse osmosis, but I am gathering from what I read that some of the worst chemicals are not actually completely filtered out by the filters) and also perhaps for CS unless there is some overwhelming reason why it should not be so used. I would upend the bottles on our ceramic water dispenser and use it for general consumption also. This water would be gathered on a huge metal roof and stored in metal rainwater tanks. I suspect this might engender some potential objection, but I don't know. I would go and fill the bottle for a charitable donation, and bring them home for use. The first rains of the season would be allowed to run away to flush dust off the roof before it was directed via simple filters to the new tanks. It would be collected in the country from clouds probably blown up from Antarctica, anyway from the Indian or Southern Oceans. Why I like this idea is that the bottles would not come from a factory that is forced by law to protect the inside of the storage bottle with chemicals for hygiene. It would also not contain echoes or particles or suggestions of water treatment chemicals; although our water here is basically of high quality, it does have standard chemicals added to it. Rowena Down Under Grow medicinal herbs,forage for wild foods, catch and filter your own water, make your own colloidal silver, explore alternative methods of healthcare and develop a wellness support network wherever you are sharing remedies and information. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: Lest We Forget
All of us here share the common interest of alternative wellness methods be it colloidal silver or many of the other things that Mike so kindly allows discussion of on here. You, like me, may well have been led to explore these alternatives because of the failure of standard medical practice to help you or your friends/loved ones. I have no healthcare, I can't afford it and don't want it. I accept that in certain circumstances [and even those can be avoided when we are totally present and aware e.g. 'accidents'] current medical healthcare is our savior. However, the reason we need healthcare as it is is because the government, food and pharmaceutical industries are in cahoots to make profits at the expense of our health. When we address this situation at grass roots level, we will find that the answer to our challenges and more importantly the challenges of our children and those that come to this earth after we are long gone, is to eat healthy and nutritious food untainted by chemicals or additives. There is probably less hope for those of us alive on this earth today because we have already been infected. Unless you grew up eating organic, untainted food and never touched coffee, junk, sugar etc in the kind of proportions we are mostly used to, you, like me, will be facing health challenges. I write this because I want to urge you to pass on this message and to watch and if you have already seen them, to share movies such as Food Inc... Fresh, The Story of Stuff, The Story of Cap and Trade http://www.thestoryofstuff.com [both films are on this site] and I know you are a receptive audience, who care about wellness... and know how important it is, even if we cannot save ourselves, to make sure that the Earth is freed from the forces that are destroying our health and that of the Earth we depend on for our nurture. We must work to ensure the freedom of future generations to live a healthy, untainted life. I wrote this piece today and feel it appropriate to share it here.. with respect and love sunny x Many of you may have seen Food Inc and been horrified. Such is the media overload today and our fear that it is easy to forget. I have transcribed Food Inc in comprehensive note form, word for word in most cases. I intend to keep reminding people of the very important message of this film. If you want to help, make sure you share this movie with everyone you know. AND the reason we are spreading this information is not fear-mongering. It is to make people aware. Your inclination may be to feel powerless. YOU ARE NOT POWERLESS. AND you cannot fight in conventional ways. And you will make little progress trying to lobby government. That's like trying to get Hitler to embrace Judaism. We are for RE- EVOLUTON not REVOLUTION. The most powerful way to move through this VEIL [anagram that] is to lose your selfish indifference, we all have it because we are all fearful in some way of change, to look out for your neighbor, those close to you, for we can only work at small local levels, and do your own thing. Organize small social RE-EVOLUTIONS in your community, You can be more powerful at grass roots level than as part of a huge group. REPURPOSE, RE-USE, RECYCLE and REFUSE. Stop buying unnecessary stuff. How many clothes or phones or gadgets do you really need? Grow trees, plant heirloom non-hybrid seeds, save them, Get your neighbors together and start to grow a community garden if you live in the city. If you are lucky enough to live rurally, get to know your neighbors, share your concern for what's going on. Talk about sharing food, you grow one thing they grow another. Look into getting alternative energy forms that make you self sufficient. Investigate alternative low cost wellness methods in addition to growing healthy food. Grow medicinal herbs,forage for wild foods, catch and filter your own water, make your own colloidal silver, explore alternative methods of healthcare and develop a wellness support network wherever you are sharing remedies and information. DROP OUT of the system as best you can. Without our tax dollars and support of veiled corporations, the system will disintegrate. How Monsanto Infiltrated Government - too many coincidences - too many conflict of interests Justice Clarence Thomas Attorney Monsanto 76 -79 Supreme Court Justice 1991- present Allowed seed saving restrictions BUSH ADMINISTRATION Donald Rumsfeld Searle CE0 Searle bought by Monsanto – Searle created Aspartame John Ashcroft Missouri Senator received heavy campaign donations from Monsanto CLINTON ADMINISTRATION Mickey Kantor Board of directors Monsanto 2000 - 02 Robert Shapiro CEO Monsanto 95 – 2000 On Clintons Advisory Board Wendell Murphy North Carolina State Senator 89 – 93 Smithfield Board of Directors 2 – now [Smithfield are largest mass hog slaughterhouse] Margaret Miller Chemical Lab supervisor Monsanto 85 – 89 FDA Branch
