Re: CSH2O2
Food grade is 35% H202 and is the only sort which is recommended for internal use--diluted that is. I got mine from ebay. dee On 22 Oct 2010, at 19:22, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dorothy, Thanks for your response. But what is food grade H2O2 and where do you buy it? J. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2
Thanks very much. Joann - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:27 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Food grade is 35% H202 and is the only sort which is recommended for internal use--diluted that is. I got mine from ebay. dee On 22 Oct 2010, at 19:22, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dorothy, Thanks for your response. But what is food grade H2O2 and where do you buy it? J. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH2O2
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Re: CSH2O2
I use 35% food grade H202 and distilled water i.e. 11onzs of distilled water to the 1oz of H202 dee On 22 Oct 2010, at 16:03, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dorothy, You mentioned making this. What is your recipe or formula for it? Thanks. G/J Porter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2
Dorothy, Thanks for your response. But what is food grade H2O2 and where do you buy it? J. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 I use 35% food grade H202 and distilled water i.e. 11onzs of distilled water to the 1oz of H202 dee On 22 Oct 2010, at 16:03, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dorothy, You mentioned making this. What is your recipe or formula for it? Thanks. G/J Porter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2
I bought food grade 35% H2O2 at my local co-op. Health food stores might carry it. I think it can be shipped as well. I'll see if I can find the link for the company who made the stuff I have. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.comwrote: Dorothy, Thanks for your response. But what is food grade H2O2 and where do you buy it? J. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 I use 35% food grade H202 and distilled water i.e. 11onzs of distilled water to the 1oz of H202 dee On 22 Oct 2010, at 16:03, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dorothy, You mentioned making this. What is your recipe or formula for it? Thanks. G/J Porter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2
http://www.h2o2oxytech.com/ On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:37 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I bought food grade 35% H2O2 at my local co-op. Health food stores might carry it. I think it can be shipped as well. I'll see if I can find the link for the company who made the stuff I have. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.comwrote: Dorothy, Thanks for your response. But what is food grade H2O2 and where do you buy it? J. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 I use 35% food grade H202 and distilled water i.e. 11onzs of distilled water to the 1oz of H202 dee On 22 Oct 2010, at 16:03, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dorothy, You mentioned making this. What is your recipe or formula for it? Thanks. G/J Porter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH2O2 35% food grade
Here we go ... updated subject - Let me see if I can find the links and such that were just recently posted to one of these lists I am on. Jaxi On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: What - 35% food grade? I know you can buy the 3% variety but I didn't think you could get the 35% food grade type. dee On 9 Sep 2010, at 16:33, jaxi wrote: I got mine at my local co-op. Jaxi On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: I got mine from ebay. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSh2o2
I tried putting some H2O2 in EIS last night. It was clear to start and stayed clear but I noticed a lot more large bits of things floating around in it when I got up this morning. I didn't like the look of that. Ideas?
CSH2O2 - David Williams MD
Here is an article I found that some might be interested in. PT
CSh2o2 dilution
Subject changed. Hi Dee, Use 1.5 oz of the 35% into the 16 oz bottle and use distilled water to fill up to the top of shoulder of the bottle just as it becomes a neck. The arithmetic for above 1.5 oz (one and a half ounces) made up to 16 oz with distilled water is : 1.5/16 * 35 = 3.28% which is just under 3.5% More exact would be to use 1.6 oz made up to 16oz . That would be 1.6/16 * 35 = 3.5 % OK, Tony On 14 Apr 2010 at 14:07, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP Sorry David this seems complicated to me (math moron that I am) I have a sixteen ounce bottle (used formerly to house 3% store- bought HP) and I want to know how much 35% HP to put in if I fill it with DW. It has to be really simple I'm afraid lol dee On 14 Apr 2010, at 05:01, David Bearrow wrote: Oy. Look at it like this: 35% = 100, divide both by 2 17.5% = 50, divide both by 2 8.75% = 25, divide both by 2 4.375% = 12.5 What that mean? You take the 35% peroxide and mix in an equal amount of water and it divides it in half making it 17.5%. If you started with 1/4 cup of 35% peroxide mix in 1/4 cup water. This gives you 1/2 cup of 17.5% peroxide. Mix in 1/2 cup of water to the 1/2 cup of 17.5% peroxide you just made. This gives you 1 cup of 8.75% peroxide. Mix in 1 cup of water to the 1 cup of 8.75% peroxide you just made. This gives you 2 cups of 4.375% peroxide. To me thats close enough to 3.5%. David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSh2o2 dilution
This is even better and easy even for me! Thanks Tony...dee On 14 Apr 2010, at 17:06, Tony Moody wrote: Subject changed. Hi Dee, Use 1.5 oz of the 35% into the 16 oz bottle and use distilled water to fill up to the top of shoulder of the bottle just as it becomes a neck. The arithmetic for above 1.5 oz (one and a half ounces) made up to 16 oz with distilled water is : 1.5/16 * 35 = 3.28% which is just under 3.5% More exact would be to use 1.6 oz made up to 16oz . That would be 1.6/16 * 35 = 3.5 % OK, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH2O2 in CS
Hi: I had a couple of batches turn medium to deep yellow after sitting for a couple of days. These are mason jar quarts. They were clear when initially made. They registered about 14.5ms on my TDS meter. They were made with distilled water like I always make them. Usually they stay clear. I assume the particles (and the ions?) agglomerated into larger particles for some reason (impurities?). I took one and put a few drops of 35% h2o2 in it. It turned cloudy and gray. I put in some more drops and it got cloudier. Finally, in exasperation, I dumped about 1/3 ounce of 35% h2o2 in the jar. The bottom half cleared instantly and the top half remained cloudy, but the cloudiness was white rather than gray. It was also bubbling furiously, clouds of very small bubbles rising from the bottom of the jar. I replaced the lid and let it sit for a day. I then had to loosen the lid to allow gas to escape, as I guessed pressure was building up. I assume the gas was oxygen??? It was clear and odorless. The solution was still kind of hazy after two days. After about five days it is now quite clear and colorless and the bubbling has stopped. However, it now measures 9 on the TDS meter and has a much denser TE than at first. I assume the larger particle were, in fact, broken down to smaller particles, quite a few of them, thus accounting for the thicker TE than when first made. Is my reading of all this correct? No real knowledge of chemistry here. Would you think there is still h2o2 in the CS or has it all been converted to something else by the reaction? Would you think it is safe to drink? Del
Re: CSH2O2 and cancer
I have no experience with this, but I suggest you check out: http://cancertutor.com/index.html http://www.amazon.com/One-Minute-Cure-Healing-Virtually-Diseases/dp/0977075141 On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:41 AM, A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.comwrote: Everybody, Again I'm infrequent here, mostly tuning in when there's a need for answers. *Apologies *if this sounds a bit like a cop put. I have a friend whose sister is apparently dying of cancer, and I remember that several years ago I had read here that one of the several cures involves putting drops of hydrogen peroxide into fruit juice. Can someone *please *let me know about the proper dosage and frequency, so that I can relate this information to my friend. Thank you. Reid www.SilverCeramicSystems.com http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009 -- Alan Jones
Re: CSH2O2 and cancer
_http://www.landrights.com/Hydrogen_Peroxide.htm_ (http://www.landrights.com/Hydrogen_Peroxide.htm) In a message dated 8/10/2009 11:58:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, alanmjo...@gmail.com writes: I have no experience with this, but I suggest you check out: _http://cancertutor.com/index.html_ (http://cancertutor.com/index.html) _http://www.amazon.com/One-Minute-Cure-Healing-Virtually-Diseases/dp/0977075 141_ (http://www.amazon.com/One-Minute-Cure-Healing-Virtually-Diseases/dp/0977075141) On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:41 AM, A. Reid Harvey _reidhar...@hotmail.com_ (mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com) wrote: Everybody, Again I'm infrequent here, mostly tuning in when there's a need for answers. Apologies if this sounds a bit like a cop put. I have a friend whose sister is apparently dying of cancer, and I remember that several years ago I had read here that one of the several cures involves putting drops of hydrogen peroxide into fruit juice. Can someone please let me know about the proper dosage and frequency, so that I can relate this information to my friend. Thank you. Reid _www.SilverCeramicSystems.com_ (http://www.silverceramicsystems.com/) (http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009) -- Alan Jones **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)
Re: CSH2O2 and cancer
Not sure about fruit juice any sigars should be avoided as they feed cancer cells. No yeast products either. From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 10 August, 2009 17:58:00 Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and cancer I have no experience with this, but I suggest you check out: http://cancertutor.com/index.html http://www.amazon.com/One-Minute-Cure-Healing-Virtually-Diseases/dp/0977075141 On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:41 AM, A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com wrote: Everybody, Again I'm infrequent here, mostly tuning in when there's a need for answers. Apologies if this sounds a bit like a cop put. I have a friend whose sister is apparently dying of cancer, and I remember that several years ago I had read here that one of the several cures involves putting drops of hydrogen peroxide into fruit juice. Can someone please let me know about the proper dosage and frequency, so that I can relate this information to my friend. Thank you. Reid www.SilverCeramicSystems.com -- Alan Jones
Re: CSH2O2 and cancer
You want to take the H202 in distilled water on an empty stomach. You want the H202 to enter the bloodstream and not react with juice or food. - Steve N From: keith rice kalenad...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon Aug 10 12:46:12 2009 Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and cancer Not sure about fruit juice any sigars should be avoided as they feed cancer cells. No yeast products either. From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 10 August, 2009 17:58:00 Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and cancer I have no experience with this, but I suggest you check out: http://cancertutor.com/index.html http://www.amazon.com/One-Minute-Cure-Healing-Virtually-Diseases/dp/0977075141 On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:41 AM, A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com wrote: Everybody, Again I'm infrequent here, mostly tuning in when there's a need for answers. Apologies if this sounds a bit like a cop put. I have a friend whose sister is apparently dying of cancer, and I remember that several years ago I had read here that one of the several cures involves putting drops of hydrogen peroxide into fruit juice. Can someone please let me know about the proper dosage and frequency, so that I can relate this information to my friend. Thank you. Reid www.SilverCeramicSystems.com http://www.silverceramicsystems.com/ http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009 -- Alan Jones
CSH2O2 and cancer
Everybody, Again I'm infrequent here, mostly tuning in when there's a need for answers. Apologies if this sounds a bit like a cop put. I have a friend whose sister is apparently dying of cancer, and I remember that several years ago I had read here that one of the several cures involves putting drops of hydrogen peroxide into fruit juice. Can someone please let me know about the proper dosage and frequency, so that I can relate this information to my friend. Thank you. Reid www.SilverCeramicSystems.com _ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009
Re: CSH2O2 and cancer
I don't know about this but you should try Dr William Wongs site about enzymes and cancer - proteolytic enzymes that is. Also enzyestuff.com as they have had success with this and cancer. Also, Dr Hulda Clark. HTH dee On 9 Aug 2009, at 10:41, A. Reid Harvey wrote: Everybody, Again I'm infrequent here, mostly tuning in when there's a need for answers. Apologies if this sounds a bit like a cop put. I have a friend whose sister is apparently dying of cancer, and I remember that several years ago I had read here that one of the several cures involves putting drops of hydrogen peroxide into fruit juice. Can someoneplease let me know about the proper dosage and frequency, so that I can relate this information to my friend. Thank you. Reid www.SilverCeramicSystems.com Get free photo software from Windows Live Click here.
Re: CSH2O2 and cancer
I meant Enzymestuff.com dee On 9 Aug 2009, at 12:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I don't know about this but you should try Dr William Wongs site about enzymes and cancer - proteolytic enzymes that is. Also enzyestuff.com as they have had success with this and cancer. Also, Dr Hulda Clark. HTH dee On 9 Aug 2009, at 10:41, A. Reid Harvey wrote:
RE: CSH2O2 and cancer
Reid, Putting three drops of 3% hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) into 4 ounces of water (NOT fruit juice!) is a very incomplete way to deal with cancer. H2O2 can also irritate the stomach. Since the idea behind its use is to oxygenate the system (cancer thrives in an anaerobic environment), I'd use ozone therapy instead, which is more powerful and more complete. There's so much to this-diet, other types of infections, heavy metals and other toxins (the body often forms tumors to encapsulate the toxins). I would use Rife technology, colloidal silver, ozone, and the appropriate nutritional supplements (including Essiac tea). It's all discussed in my new Rife Handbook. For doses on H2O2, see Ed McCabe's book Oxygen Therapies. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy www.nenahsylver.com _ From: A. Reid Harvey [mailto:reidhar...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSH2O2 and cancer Everybody, Again I'm infrequent here, mostly tuning in when there's a need for answers. Apologies if this sounds a bit like a cop put. I have a friend whose sister is apparently dying of cancer, and I remember that several years ago I had read here that one of the several cures involves putting drops of hydrogen peroxide into fruit juice. Can someone please let me know about the proper dosage and frequency, so that I can relate this information to my friend. Thank you. Reid www.SilverCeramicSystems.com
Re: CSH2O2 in starter
I've tried this only to have an unbalanced outcome. Usually cloudy. Still works as a good disinfectant, though. Scott With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27 --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net wrote: From: Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net Subject: CSH2O2 in starter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:24 PM Mixed H2O2 with CS then inadvertently used the last part of this mixture as a starter for the next batch. Anyone one how this might affect the outcome? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 in starter
Run it and see, but the one time I did that, it made many very big shiny silver flakes...but it had a lot of H2O2 in the water. Ode At 05:24 PM 8/5/2009 -0700, you wrote: Mixed H2O2 with CS then inadvertently used the last part of this mixture as a starter for the next batch. Anyone one how this might affect the outcome? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 in starter
Last week, I sprayed my water cooler with H202 to disinfectant it, turned around and my husband had inserted the water bottle. It was too late to take it back out. Later one, not thinking about the H202 that could have mixed with the water, I made my CS with this water, and it was very cloudy. So, litres later, the CS was still cloudy. So I don't feel it is a good combination. From: Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:53:05 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 in starter I've tried this only to have an unbalanced outcome. Usually cloudy. Still works as a good disinfectant, though. Scott With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27 --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net wrote: From: Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net Subject: CSH2O2 in starter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:24 PM Mixed H2O2 with CS then inadvertently used the last part of this mixture as a starter for the next batch. Anyone one how this might affect the outcome? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: CSH2O2 in starter
I guess you'll let us know- If the peroxide was freshly added, it might do something, if not, maybe not. Just a guess. On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Joseph Metz wrote: Mixed H2O2 with CS then inadvertently used the last part of this mixture as a starter for the next batch. Anyone one how this might affect the outcome? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH2O2 in starter
Mixed H2O2 with CS then inadvertently used the last part of this mixture as a starter for the next batch. Anyone one how this might affect the outcome? Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Yeah, you're right I suppose, I keep forgetting that some may think their particle clusters are too large and I do have a tendency to not allow for that possibility with some producers. N. Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:52:09 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: odecoy...@windstream.net Subject: RE: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Clear or not..this is why using a bit of H2O2 might be a really good idea.. http://silverpuppy.com/csh2o2.html Ode At 11:42 PM 7/22/2009 +1030, you wrote: I wouldn't get too fixated on colour or ppm, I've had clear EIS come back from laboratory analysis at 23.5 total Ag content after 18 days stabilizing time frame, and nil settlement or fallout. My experience has been that it takes well over 24 hours to stabilize also. [If I tried adding more peroxide to clear it what would you suggest?] -I'm encouraged to ask why you want to 'clear' it? N. From: pconve...@primus.ca To: mdud...@king-cart.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:26:47 -0400 Hi Marshall and other list members, My EIS was 24 hours old and approximately 25 ppm. It was only slightly yellow but possibly on the way to a deeper shade. I have been able to use 3% food grade H2O2 to clear a ~25 ppm. batch in the past by adding up to one drop per ounce, as I did this time, but in this case I made mud. I didn't want to wait another day to add the peroxide (which I probably should have). I recall that my earlier successes involved a more stabilized EIS, as you suggested; one having sat on the shelf for several days before adding H2O2. So, is this a simple case of haste makes waste, (my suspicion) or do you think there is more to it? If I tried adding more peroxide to clear it what would you suggest? many thanks, Peter - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I was pressed for time and added some 3% H2O2 to my quart of one-day-old EIS and wound up with a jar of grey mud. sheepish grin How long did you wait after brewing before adding the H2O2? I recommend a minimum of 48 hours. This can happen if added to a fresh brew. It can also happen with high ppms, over 20. I am running a replacement batch at the moment but am wondering if this muddy one is salvageable. Can I clear this brew in some way? Will it do so on it's own if I wait long enough? Often adding additional H2O2 will clear it. Marshall Many thanks, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Check the daily blob for the latest on what's happening around the web What goes online, stays online _ Need a new model in your life? Sell your car fast. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F866383_t=758314219_r=carpoint_tagline_m=EXT
Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
6 Drops of 3% to the quart seems to be enough magic. ode At 01:26 PM 7/23/2009 +0100, you wrote: Crikey Ode, now you've got me thinking again! Would you have to put it in every batch and if so, what proportion and what percentage? Oh Lord, more things to tax my brain with now! dee On 23 Jul 2009, at 10:52, Ode Coyote wrote: Clear or not..this is why using a bit of H2O2 might be a really good idea.. http://silverpuppy.com/csh2o2.htmlhttp://silverpuppy.com/csh2o2.html Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Ode - I think! dee On 24 Jul 2009, at 09:06, Ode Coyote wrote: 6 Drops of 3% to the quart seems to be enough magic. ode At 01:26 PM 7/23/2009 +0100, you wrote:
RE: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Clear or not..this is why using a bit of H2O2 might be a really good idea.. http://silverpuppy.com/csh2o2.html Ode At 11:42 PM 7/22/2009 +1030, you wrote: I wouldn't get too fixated on colour or ppm, I've had clear EIS come back from laboratory analysis at 23.5 total Ag content after 18 days stabilizing time frame, and nil settlement or fallout. My experience has been that it takes well over 24 hours to stabilize also. [If I tried adding more peroxide to clear it what would you suggest?] -I'm encouraged to ask why you want to 'clear' it? N. From: pconve...@primus.ca To: mdud...@king-cart.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:26:47 -0400 Hi Marshall and other list members, My EIS was 24 hours old and approximately 25 ppm. It was only slightly yellow but possibly on the way to a deeper shade. I have been able to use 3% food grade H2O2 to clear a ~25 ppm. batch in the past by adding up to one drop per ounce, as I did this time, but in this case I made mud. I didn't want to wait another day to add the peroxide (which I probably should have). I recall that my earlier successes involved a more stabilized EIS, as you suggested; one having sat on the shelf for several days before adding H2O2. So, is this a simple case of haste makes waste, (my suspicion) or do you think there is more to it? If I tried adding more peroxide to clear it what would you suggest? many thanks, Peter - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I was pressed for time and added some 3% H2O2 to my quart of one-day-old EIS and wound up with a jar of grey mud. sheepish grin How long did you wait after brewing before adding the H2O2? I recommend a minimum of 48 hours. This can happen if added to a fresh brew. It can also happen with high ppms, over 20. I am running a replacement batch at the moment but am wondering if this muddy one is salvageable. Can I clear this brew in some way? Will it do so on it's own if I wait long enough? Often adding additional H2O2 will clear it. Marshall Many thanks, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Check the daily blob for the latest on what's happening around the web What goes online, stays online
Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Crikey Ode, now you've got me thinking again! Would you have to put it in every batch and if so, what proportion and what percentage? Oh Lord, more things to tax my brain with now! dee On 23 Jul 2009, at 10:52, Ode Coyote wrote: Clear or not..this is why using a bit of H2O2 might be a really good idea.. http://silverpuppy.com/csh2o2.html Ode
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mhale wrote: Hi All, How much 3% H2O2 should be added to 15ppm EIS? I have read 25% - 50% of the H2O2 but that seems a little high to me. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike I use 3 to 5 drops per 8 ounces, 1/2 teaspoon/gallon, 1/2 cup per 55 gallon drum. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Don't think of it as taxingjust flexing. Ode is keeping you young. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Crikey Ode, now you've got me thinking again! Would you have to put it in every batch and if so, what proportion and what percentage? Oh Lord, more things to tax my brain with now! dee On 23 Jul 2009, at 10:52, Ode Coyote wrote: Clear or not..this is why using a bit of H2O2 might be a really good idea.. http://silverpuppy.com/csh2o2.html Ode
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You can add a LOT more H2O2, but it'll make you foam at the mouth like a mad dog and spit and cuss like a sailor. Muddy grey looks bad, but it won't kill you...probably an Oxygen emulsion. Try heating it up? Ode At 02:21 PM 7/21/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hi Folks, I was pressed for time and added some 3% H2O2 to my quart of one-day-old EIS and wound up with a jar of grey mud. sheepish grin I am running a replacement batch at the moment but am wondering if this muddy one is salvageable. Can I clear this brew in some way? Will it do so on it's own if I wait long enough? Many thanks, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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For me, 6 drops per quart has always been enough. More does whatever it does, faster. When, counts more than how much. Ode At 02:26 PM 7/21/2009 -0700, you wrote: Hi All, How much 3% H2O2 should be added to 15ppm EIS? I have read 25% - 50% of the H2O2 but that seems a little high to me. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Hi Marshall and other list members, My EIS was 24 hours old and approximately 25 ppm. It was only slightly yellow but possibly on the way to a deeper shade. I have been able to use 3% food grade H2O2 to clear a ~25 ppm. batch in the past by adding up to one drop per ounce, as I did this time, but in this case I made mud. I didn't want to wait another day to add the peroxide (which I probably should have). I recall that my earlier successes involved a more stabilized EIS, as you suggested; one having sat on the shelf for several days before adding H2O2. So, is this a simple case of haste makes waste, (my suspicion) or do you think there is more to it? If I tried adding more peroxide to clear it what would you suggest? many thanks, Peter - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I was pressed for time and added some 3% H2O2 to my quart of one-day-old EIS and wound up with a jar of grey mud. sheepish grin How long did you wait after brewing before adding the H2O2? I recommend a minimum of 48 hours. This can happen if added to a fresh brew. It can also happen with high ppms, over 20. I am running a replacement batch at the moment but am wondering if this muddy one is salvageable. Can I clear this brew in some way? Will it do so on it's own if I wait long enough? Often adding additional H2O2 will clear it. Marshall Many thanks, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Why do you add H202 if I might ask? Is it not clear to start with? dee On 22 Jul 2009, at 12:26, Peter Converse wrote: Hi Marshall and other list members, My EIS was 24 hours old and approximately 25 ppm. It was only slightly yellow but possibly on the way to a deeper shade. I have been able to use 3% food grade H2O2 to clear a ~25 ppm. batch in the past by adding up to one drop per ounce, as I did this time, but in this case I made mud. I didn't want to wait another day to add the peroxide (which I probably should have). I recall that my earlier successes involved a more stabilized EIS, as you suggested; one having sat on the shelf for several days before adding H2O2.
RE: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
I wouldn't get too fixated on colour or ppm, I've had clear EIS come back from laboratory analysis at 23.5 total Ag content after 18 days stabilizing time frame, and nil settlement or fallout. My experience has been that it takes well over 24 hours to stabilize also. [If I tried adding more peroxide to clear it what would you suggest?] -I'm encouraged to ask why you want to 'clear' it? N. From: pconve...@primus.ca To: mdud...@king-cart.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:26:47 -0400 Hi Marshall and other list members, My EIS was 24 hours old and approximately 25 ppm. It was only slightly yellow but possibly on the way to a deeper shade. I have been able to use 3% food grade H2O2 to clear a ~25 ppm. batch in the past by adding up to one drop per ounce, as I did this time, but in this case I made mud. I didn't want to wait another day to add the peroxide (which I probably should have). I recall that my earlier successes involved a more stabilized EIS, as you suggested; one having sat on the shelf for several days before adding H2O2. So, is this a simple case of haste makes waste, (my suspicion) or do you think there is more to it? If I tried adding more peroxide to clear it what would you suggest? many thanks, Peter - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I was pressed for time and added some 3% H2O2 to my quart of one-day-old EIS and wound up with a jar of grey mud. sheepish grin How long did you wait after brewing before adding the H2O2? I recommend a minimum of 48 hours. This can happen if added to a fresh brew. It can also happen with high ppms, over 20. I am running a replacement batch at the moment but am wondering if this muddy one is salvageable. Can I clear this brew in some way? Will it do so on it's own if I wait long enough? Often adding additional H2O2 will clear it. Marshall Many thanks, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ What goes online, stays online Check the daily blob for the latest on what's happening around the web http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx
Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Why do you add H202 if I might ask? Is it not clear to start with? dee On 22 Jul 2009, at 12:26, Peter Converse wrote: Hi Marshall and other list members, My EIS was 24 hours old and approximately 25 ppm. It was only slightly yellow but possibly on the way to a deeper shade. I have been able to use 3% food grade H2O2 to clear a ~25 ppm. batch in the past by adding up to one drop per ounce, as I did this time, but in this case I made mud. I didn't want to wait another day to add the peroxide (which I probably should have). I recall that my earlier successes involved a more stabilized EIS, as you suggested; one having sat on the shelf for several days before adding H2O2. H2O2 does a redox on the CS/ionic silver combination. It oxidizes the colloidal particles making ionic, and reduces the ionic, making 2 atom colloidal particles. The effect is to reduce the particle size of the colloid to almost 100% 2 atom particles, and also to increase the colloidal portion from about 10% to what is estimated to be 25 to 30%. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Is this good? dee On 22 Jul 2009, at 15:43, Marshall Dudley wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: H2O2 does a redox on the CS/ionic silver combination. It oxidizes the colloidal particles making ionic, and reduces the ionic, making 2 atom colloidal particles. The effect is to reduce the particle size of the colloid to almost 100% 2 atom particles, and also to increase the colloidal portion from about 10% to what is estimated to be 25 to 30%. Marshall --
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I believe Marshall and Ode suggest that smaller particles occur. Chuck Bushydo--The way of the shrub. BONSAI! On 7/22/2009 9:12:15 AM, Neville Munn (one.red...@hotmail.com) wrote: -I'm encouraged to ask why you want to 'clear' it? N. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: 07/22/09 05:59:00
Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Hi Dee, I added the peroxide to the ~25 ppm. brew to reduce particle size although it was only light yellow and possibly deepening in color a little as time was progressing. Adding the H2O2 can put it into the perfectly clear state in a case like this one. Normal ~10-12 ppm. batches are perfectly clear on their own but when making stronger brews agglomeration begins to occur along with the resultant coulor changes. Blessings, Peter - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:16 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops! Why do you add H202 if I might ask? Is it not clear to start with? dee On 22 Jul 2009, at 12:26, Peter Converse wrote: Hi Marshall and other list members, My EIS was 24 hours old and approximately 25 ppm. It was only slightly yellow but possibly on the way to a deeper shade. I have been able to use 3% food grade H2O2 to clear a ~25 ppm. batch in the past by adding up to one drop per ounce, as I did this time, but in this case I made mud. I didn't want to wait another day to add the peroxide (which I probably should have). I recall that my earlier successes involved a more stabilized EIS, as you suggested; one having sat on the shelf for several days before adding H2O2.
CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Hi Folks, I was pressed for time and added some 3% H2O2 to my quart of one-day-old EIS and wound up with a jar of grey mud. sheepish grin I am running a replacement batch at the moment but am wondering if this muddy one is salvageable. Can I clear this brew in some way? Will it do so on it's own if I wait long enough? Many thanks, Peter
Re: CSH2O2 Added to EIS Too Soon--Whoops!
Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I was pressed for time and added some 3% H2O2 to my quart of one-day-old EIS and wound up with a jar of grey mud. sheepish grin How long did you wait after brewing before adding the H2O2? I recommend a minimum of 48 hours. This can happen if added to a fresh brew. It can also happen with high ppms, over 20. I am running a replacement batch at the moment but am wondering if this muddy one is salvageable. Can I clear this brew in some way? Will it do so on it's own if I wait long enough? Often adding additional H2O2 will clear it. Marshall Many thanks, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi All, How much 3% H2O2 should be added to 15ppm EIS? I have read 25% - 50% of the H2O2 but that seems a little high to me. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike
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Mike I put like 3-4 drops to a quart Peter, wait a few days and add some more H202, sometimes it will go clear. Sam L. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:26 PM, mhale mchl.h...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, How much 3% H2O2 should be added to 15ppm EIS? I have read 25% - 50% of the H2O2 but that seems a little high to me. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
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I have done that too. Last batch I diluted it to 5 or 10 ppm, waited another couple of days, then added maybe 2 or 3 drops per quart and let it sit for a couple of hours. It did go clear again after much fussing with it. - Kathryn On Jul 21, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I was pressed for time and added some 3% H2O2 to my quart of one-day-old EIS and wound up with a jar of grey mud. sheepish grin I am running a replacement batch at the moment but am wondering if this muddy one is salvageable. Can I clear this brew in some way? Will it do so on it's own if I wait long enough? Many thanks, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I understand the 2-3 drops / qt. to let it sit for a couple hrs. . But-what much fussing with it did you do Lois In a message dated 7/21/2009 7:17:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clay...@skypoint.com writes: I have done that too. Last batch I diluted it to 5 or 10 ppm, waited another couple of days, then added maybe 2 or 3 drops per quart and let it sit for a couple of hours. It did go clear again after much fussing with it. - Kathryn **What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood0009)
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oh, it was just that I did that 3 or 4 times to get it where I wanted it, over a couple of days. Much easier to just make a new batch. - kathryn On Jul 21, 2009, at 7:08 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: I understand the 2-3 drops / qt. to let it sit for a couple hrs. . But-what much fussing with it did you do Lois In a message dated 7/21/2009 7:17:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clay...@skypoint.com writes: I have done that too. Last batch I diluted it to 5 or 10 ppm, waited another couple of days, then added maybe 2 or 3 drops per quart and let it sit for a couple of hours. It did go clear again after much fussing with it. - Kathryn Don't forget to rinse and repeat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: conductivity after storage, was Re: CSH2O2 Use
Ode, you may remember we speculated back and forth a lot about what is in the water here, with no facts, just guesses, LOL. I still have no facts, according to the water reports put out by the joint water powers board our water is wonderful, so whatever is in it, they aren't telling. sol ## Whatever is in it, doesn't make it not wonderful to *drink* [in their opinion] and consumption is their only concern, but making EIS is a different story. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ode Coyote wrote: The solubility limit of both oxide and hydroxide combined is, what?..about 13 PPM? So the next question would be, what are the Hydration limits silver ions? I suspect that might be around 17 PPM on it's own as the highest conductivity I've seen maintained for more than a year of storage is 30 uS. [If the 13 PPM is correct] I have a batch that I made sometime in 2003 or 2004. Brewed to about 70uS, stopping and cleaning electrodes every once in a while. It was water clear when I stopped trying to get it higher. On stopping it would immediately drop to the mid 40s or so. When left for a while (24 or 48 hours? longer? I no longer remember), it ended up at 37.9 uS. If memory serves it took more than a day to make it. I have kept this batch in the jar it was brewed in (about a 12-14 oz batch) in a dark closet because of the high uS probably being unstable. Over the years the sides/bottom of the jar have developed very heavy dark grey plate out. But a funny thing started happening about the second or third year the uS started going up, and is still going up, I checked it just now and it reads about 50 uS. I wanted to keep going with experiments like that batch, but though I tried, I never got another high uS batch to stay water clear, nor did I ever get one to go so high in uS no matter how long I brewed them, so never stored any of them to see what they would do over time. I've used most of it but still have about a half cup left in the jar. If I ever get to where I can routinely brew clear CS again, I may play with high uS batches again. But the water here in the past year has gone wonky again, and I can't seem to get it down where I need it to be. Commercial DW has been worse, too. Last year I never got the usual few months reprieve from double distilling that comes with high water levels in the river during spring run off, and this year I often have to triple distill. Ode, you may remember we speculated back and forth a lot about what is in the water here, with no facts, just guesses, LOL. I still have no facts, according to the water reports put out by the joint water powers board our water is wonderful, so whatever is in it, they aren't telling. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Dear Peter: Kathryn has done an excellent job of answering your questions. I will add my two cents. I do not have Lyme, but a friend of mine had it and I helped develop a system that got rid of it. Please take a look at http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus So far as I know, normal ionic colloidal silver by itself will not be useful in dealing with the Lyme spirochetes. Once you kill the spirochetes and have serious herx reactions then colloidal silver will be of great benefit. My friend Carol consumed as much as 32 ounces a day to help to deal with secondary infections and the fever and chills caused by the dead spirochetes. There is another product called MesoSilver made by Frank Key that is mostly extremely small particles and very little ionic and there is some information that this type of colloidal silver may be effective for Lyme. http://www.colloidal-silver-colloids.com/1568940264asf589d516d3615d746afdfaf d/lym5813.htm There is a yahoo group that you might want to visit that deals mostly with Lyme. lyme-and-r...@yahoogroups.com Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Hi Peter, Welcome to the group. I am not official in any way, so this is an unofficial welcoming message. ;-) You have so many questions, I am not sure anyone has the answers for many of them. I don't think I have lyme, but did have one positive test, they said false positive, but who knows if that means anything, and if so, what. It sounds like you have been doing your homework. I guess I can tell you what I have read, but I have not nebulized myself. On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? bronchial and lungs, probably, but your mileage may vary. Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? I definitely would not do that, but if you feel like it, it's your body. I have only seen reference to people here using H2O2 in small amounts to break up any slightly larger particles that might have formed, so there is more uniformity and tininess (is that even a word?). If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? I have seen recipes for adding DMSO to ionic silver water for eyedrops or other specific applications to carry the silver deeper into the tissues. I do not recall the amount used, but it was small. Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? That might make sense for killing things residing in the colon. Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? LOL ??? who knows? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? I have not heard anyone talking about using cs as an IV fluid, recently. It may have been discussed, but I do not remember it. If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Most seem to use a nebulizer without O2, or even a spray bottle. I have sprayed it into a plastic bag and inhaled it, and that worked. After I tried that, I bought a cold mist humidifier to use, but have not a reason yet, so I have not tried it. Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I guess you could use whatever you want. The Gatorade has a balance of sodium and potassium, also a little sugar (now corn syrup, which I will not drink). There are other equivalent electrolyte replacement formulas on the market, or you could make your own using salt and NuSalt, which is potassium. I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter you are welcome, I am not sure I was any help, but there you are. Take care, and good luck with the lyme. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver- marshall
Clayton Family wrote: would a silver pulsar by Sota work for the zapping? If I remember right, the Sota silver pulsar is also a zapper. If so, then yes it would. next question- does the ozonated water cause any mental symptoms when it is killing the brain bugs? I have not heard of any, I found it somewhat energizing when I used it, but then I did not have a chronic illness at that time. I assume one needs to do other things to help the body get rid of the dead spirochetes. It is always good advise to drink lots of water. Does the MMS kill lyme too? Not sure. I have not heard any great results with it, but have not been following that very closely either. Marshall thanks Marshall, kathryn On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Could you explain what you mean when you say you will need to use all 4 (including Cs) to get complete relief from lyme. I mean use all 4 of the things I mentioned: 1. CS, for extended killing 2. Zapping, for immediate killing in the blood, and organs 3. Ozonated Water, for killing in the nerve ganglia and brain, and other hiding places 4. Magnetic Pulsing, for killing in the lymph system, and maybe the joints Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Dear Peter: It looks like you have been fighting Lyme for quite some time. If you read Bryan's book then you know that the Doug Coil Machine is the most powerful tool out there. Also you probably read that many protocols and machines must be combined. What is not generally stated is that some types of machines loose their effectiveness and a different machine needs to be purchased. I based my design on Doug MacLean's work with the Doug Coil Machine. I worked with Doug for over a year and he would call Carol every few weeks to monitor her progress. He was concerned that the capacitor coupling may not be as powerful as the coil inductive coupling. I only have data on one test subject, that is Carol, but it seems like it took 6 months for her to be 90% recovered and about one year to be 100%. The only thing we used was the DougPlus and ionic colloidal silver. Doug MacLean states that it takes 2 to 3 years to recover from Lyme using the Doug Coil Machine. I have three machines being tested and the reports I am getting are very encouraging. It seems like the DougPlus produces herx reaction where other machines have ceased to be effective. One customer has a $6000 PERL machine that was very effective but no longer does the trick. He is using MesoSilver and the DougPlus and calls to tell me that he is feeling good. If you would like to try the DougPlus, I give a 30 day money back, less shipping. You will know whether it works within a few days. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:p...@vif.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:11 AM To: Jim Meissner yahoo Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Hi Jim, Kathryn, Marshall, Dee and anyone else who has chimed in with help regarding Lyme Disease. I appreciate it very much! I have purchased a GB4000 Rife machine, have a coil-type Rife machine on order, have been doing the Salt/C protocol for 16 months, tried Meso Silver for a couple months and have just invested in a Silver Puppy as well. Marshall has suggested ozonated water and magnetic pulsing--thanks for those tips Marshall. Can anyone suggest a good but inexpensive way to make the ozonated water? I am looking into mag pulsing also with Robb Allen's High Power Magnetic Pulser, as recommended by Bryan Rosner from www.lymebook.comand also looking at MMS. Jim, maybe we could talk some more about your Dougplus...looks interesting. Blessings to you all, Peter Converse - Original Message - From: Jim Meissner yahoo jpmeiss...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:51 AM Subject: RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Dear Peter: Kathryn has done an excellent job of answering your questions. I will add my two cents. I do not have Lyme, but a friend of mine had it and I helped develop a system that got rid of it. Please take a look at http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus So far as I know, normal ionic colloidal silver by itself will not be useful in dealing with the Lyme spirochetes. Once you kill the spirochetes and have serious herx reactions then colloidal silver will be of great benefit. My friend Carol consumed as much as 32 ounces a day to help to deal with secondary infections and the fever and chills caused by the dead spirochetes. There is another product called MesoSilver made by Frank Key that is mostly extremely small particles and very little ionic and there is some information that this type of colloidal silver may be effective for Lyme. http://www.colloidal-silver-colloids.com/1568940264asf589d516d3615d746afdfaf d/lym5813.htm There is a yahoo group that you might want to visit that deals mostly with Lyme. lyme-and-r...@yahoogroups.com Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Hi Peter, Welcome to the group. I am not official in any way, so this is an unofficial welcoming message. ;-) You have so many questions, I am not sure anyone has the answers for many of them. I don't think I have lyme, but did have one positive test, they said false positive, but who knows if that means anything, and if so, what. It sounds like you have been doing your homework. I guess I can tell you what I have read, but I have not nebulized myself. On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer
RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver- marshall
I have info that the termmintor zapper from Wolf Creek Ranch that supplies the diamatateous earth. Is very good. Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver- marshall Clayton Family wrote: would a silver pulsar by Sota work for the zapping? If I remember right, the Sota silver pulsar is also a zapper. If so, then yes it would. next question- does the ozonated water cause any mental symptoms when it is killing the brain bugs? I have not heard of any, I found it somewhat energizing when I used it, but then I did not have a chronic illness at that time. I assume one needs to do other things to help the body get rid of the dead spirochetes. It is always good advise to drink lots of water. Does the MMS kill lyme too? Not sure. I have not heard any great results with it, but have not been following that very closely either. Marshall thanks Marshall, kathryn On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Could you explain what you mean when you say you will need to use all 4 (including Cs) to get complete relief from lyme. I mean use all 4 of the things I mentioned: 1. CS, for extended killing 2. Zapping, for immediate killing in the blood, and organs 3. Ozonated Water, for killing in the nerve ganglia and brain, and other hiding places 4. Magnetic Pulsing, for killing in the lymph system, and maybe the joints Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Fact is that lyme has hiding places that CS simply cannot get to. To get those requires a different protocol. Use of such devices as a zapper, magnetic pulser, and ozonated water are effective in getting to them in these hiding places. For complete relief of lyme you will like find that you will need to use all 4 (including CS). Marshall Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Marshall, I understood that CS is absorbed into the bloodstream and that at lower dosage levels it takes 3 to 4 days before the silver will have accumulated in the bloodstream sufficiently for benefits to begin. Doesn't the bloodstream go everywhere in the body? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Fact is that lyme has hiding places that CS simply cannot get to. To get those requires a different protocol. Use of such devices as a zapper, magnetic pulser, and ozonated water are effective in getting to them in these hiding places. For complete relief of lyme you will like find that you will need to use all 4 (including CS). Marshall Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Faith Gagne wrote: Marshall, I understood that CS is absorbed into the bloodstream and that at lower dosage levels it takes 3 to 4 days before the silver will have accumulated in the bloodstream sufficiently for benefits to begin. Doesn't the bloodstream go everywhere in the body? The majority of CS is eliminated by the body within a few days. Virtually none accumulates. No the blood stream does not go everywhere. It does not go into the lymph system, it does not go into the spinal cord, it does not go into the brain past the blood brain barrier, it does not make it into nerve ganglia. It also does not make it into much of the cartridge of the bones. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Fact is that lyme has hiding places that CS simply cannot get to. To get those requires a different protocol. Use of such devices as a zapper, magnetic pulser, and ozonated water are effective in getting to them in these hiding places. For complete relief of lyme you will like find that you will need to use all 4 (including CS). Marshall Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
I read a study that said it did go into the brain, it was found in all the soft tissues. The authors considered that to be a major problem, being mainstream medical professionals, but I consider it a plus. On Jun 23, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Faith Gagne wrote: Marshall, I understood that CS is absorbed into the bloodstream and that at lower dosage levels it takes 3 to 4 days before the silver will have accumulated in the bloodstream sufficiently for benefits to begin. Doesn't the bloodstream go everywhere in the body? The majority of CS is eliminated by the body within a few days. Virtually none accumulates. No the blood stream does not go everywhere. It does not go into the lymph system, it does not go into the spinal cord, it does not go into the brain past the blood brain barrier, it does not make it into nerve ganglia. It also does not make it into much of the cartridge of the bones. Thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Could you explain what you mean when you say you will need to use all 4 (including Cs) to get complete relief from lyme. I appreciate it Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:45 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Marshall, I understood that CS is absorbed into the bloodstream and that at lower dosage levels it takes 3 to 4 days before the silver will have accumulated in the bloodstream sufficiently for benefits to begin. Doesn't the bloodstream go everywhere in the body? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Fact is that lyme has hiding places that CS simply cannot get to. To get those requires a different protocol. Use of such devices as a zapper, magnetic pulser, and ozonated water are effective in getting to them in these hiding places. For complete relief of lyme you will like find that you will need to use all 4 (including CS). Marshall Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Could you explain what you mean when you say you will need to use all 4 (including Cs) to get complete relief from lyme. I mean use all 4 of the things I mentioned: 1. CS, for extended killing 2. Zapping, for immediate killing in the blood, and organs 3. Ozonated Water, for killing in the nerve ganglia and brain, and other hiding places 4. Magnetic Pulsing, for killing in the lymph system, and maybe the joints Marshall I appreciate it Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:45 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Marshall, I understood that CS is absorbed into the bloodstream and that at lower dosage levels it takes 3 to 4 days before the silver will have accumulated in the bloodstream sufficiently for benefits to begin. Doesn't the bloodstream go everywhere in the body? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Fact is that lyme has hiding places that CS simply cannot get to. To get those requires a different protocol. Use of such devices as a zapper, magnetic pulser, and ozonated water are effective in getting to them in these hiding places. For complete relief of lyme you will like find that you will need to use all 4 (including CS). Marshall Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
So do you have references as to where these things are best purchased and best research info. There are a lot of zappers out there and probably ozonated water and magnetic pulsers This just get more expensive every day. Thanks Mary Ellen Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Could you explain what you mean when you say you will need to use all 4 (including Cs) to get complete relief from lyme. I mean use all 4 of the things I mentioned: 1. CS, for extended killing 2. Zapping, for immediate killing in the blood, and organs 3. Ozonated Water, for killing in the nerve ganglia and brain, and other hiding places 4. Magnetic Pulsing, for killing in the lymph system, and maybe the joints Marshall I appreciate it Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:45 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Marshall, I understood that CS is absorbed into the bloodstream and that at lower dosage levels it takes 3 to 4 days before the silver will have accumulated in the bloodstream sufficiently for benefits to begin. Doesn't the bloodstream go everywhere in the body? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Fact is that lyme has hiding places that CS simply cannot get to. To get those requires a different protocol. Use of such devices as a zapper, magnetic pulser, and ozonated water are effective in getting to them in these hiding places. For complete relief of lyme you will like find that you will need to use all 4 (including CS). Marshall Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver- marshall
would a silver pulsar by Sota work for the zapping? next question- does the ozonated water cause any mental symptoms when it is killing the brain bugs? I assume one needs to do other things to help the body get rid of the dead spirochetes. Does the MMS kill lyme too? thanks Marshall, kathryn On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Could you explain what you mean when you say you will need to use all 4 (including Cs) to get complete relief from lyme. I mean use all 4 of the things I mentioned: 1. CS, for extended killing 2. Zapping, for immediate killing in the blood, and organs 3. Ozonated Water, for killing in the nerve ganglia and brain, and other hiding places 4. Magnetic Pulsing, for killing in the lymph system, and maybe the joints Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Hi Peter, Welcome to the group. I am not official in any way, so this is an unofficial welcoming message. ;-) You have so many questions, I am not sure anyone has the answers for many of them. I don't think I have lyme, but did have one positive test, they said false positive, but who knows if that means anything, and if so, what. It sounds like you have been doing your homework. I guess I can tell you what I have read, but I have not nebulized myself. On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? bronchial and lungs, probably, but your mileage may vary. Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? I definitely would not do that, but if you feel like it, it's your body. I have only seen reference to people here using H2O2 in small amounts to break up any slightly larger particles that might have formed, so there is more uniformity and tininess (is that even a word?). If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? I have seen recipes for adding DMSO to ionic silver water for eyedrops or other specific applications to carry the silver deeper into the tissues. I do not recall the amount used, but it was small. Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? That might make sense for killing things residing in the colon. Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? LOL ??? who knows? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? I have not heard anyone talking about using cs as an IV fluid, recently. It may have been discussed, but I do not remember it. If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Most seem to use a nebulizer without O2, or even a spray bottle. I have sprayed it into a plastic bag and inhaled it, and that worked. After I tried that, I bought a cold mist humidifier to use, but have not a reason yet, so I have not tried it. Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I guess you could use whatever you want. The Gatorade has a balance of sodium and potassium, also a little sugar (now corn syrup, which I will not drink). There are other equivalent electrolyte replacement formulas on the market, or you could make your own using salt and NuSalt, which is potassium. I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter you are welcome, I am not sure I was any help, but there you are. Take care, and good luck with the lyme. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
There is only one thing I read about nebulizing that using DMSO should be used with caution. Especially if the person has been a smoker or has badly congested lungs. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Peter Converse Date: 22/06/2008 19:39:56 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites?
Re: CSH2O2 and CS
EIS [CS] is a dynamic substance that changes. It's different when fresh than after it's been around for several hours. Hydrogen Peroxide is a dynamic catalyst of silver as well as a reactant. What it does, is different over time depending on when it's used and how much is left over, for how long. There are several forms of silver oxide [s], some are destroyed by peroxide and some are made by it. If you place an oxide blackened electrode in peroxide, it will clean up almost instantly, but if you leave it there, it will turn black again. If you put silver in pure peroxide, it will explode into steam at a rate relative to the surface area of the silver. [Peroxide rocketry] Ode At 01:02 PM 11/5/2007 -0500, you wrote: Ian Davies wrote: Hello, I have read in recent posts about yellow coloured CS that adding a few drops of H2O2 will take away the yellow colour because it is separating the particles which have joined together. I have also read that adding H2O2 to CS makes it work better. I also read that a mixture of CS and H2O2 is not a good idea for neubalizing if the person is a smoker because it could cause nicotine to be dislodged from deep in the lungs and cause a heart attack. Are there any chemists out there who could explain what actually happens to the CS when we add H2O2? Thanking you in advance for your help. Ian in Spain http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#HP Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1112 - Release Date: 11/5/2007 7:11 PM
Re: CSH2O2 and CS
Ian Davies wrote: Hello, I have read in recent posts about yellow coloured CS that adding a few drops of H2O2 will take away the yellow colour because it is separating the particles which have joined together. I have also read that adding H2O2 to CS makes it work better. I also read that a mixture of CS and H2O2 is not a good idea for neubalizing if the person is a smoker because it could cause nicotine to be dislodged from deep in the lungs and cause a heart attack. Are there any chemists out there who could explain what actually happens to the CS when we add H2O2? Thanking you in advance for your help. Ian in Spain http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#HP Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH2O2 and CS
Hello, I have read in recent posts about yellow coloured CS that adding a few drops of H2O2 will take away the yellow colour because it is separating the particles which have joined together. I have also read that adding H2O2 to CS makes it work better. I also read that a mixture of CS and H2O2 is not a good idea for neubalizing if the person is a smoker because it could cause nicotine to be dislodged from deep in the lungs and cause a heart attack. Are there any chemists out there who could explain what actually happens to the CS when we add H2O2? Thanking you in advance for your help. Ian in Spain
CSh2o2 and cs
hi, gary courtney here..tried to post before but got bumped back for some reason..will try again..I will say this,that coloidal silver tastes alot better than h2o2 and they both do the job of killing critters in your body..I found out about 35%food grade h2o2 25 years ago from an old fella that cured his liver cancer with it and I have used it since myself instead of antibiotics these last 25 years or soI have also used cs esp. for my animals90% h2o2 is the liquid oxygen they use for the space shuttle and it will eat you up fast...35% will turn your hands white and sting real good as it eats the dead skin off..that's why people dilute itwhat a lot of people don't know is that the white blood cell squirt h2o2 on bugs in the body to kill them so that they can be eaten..good bacteria in the gut make h2o2 to help keep the bad bacteria in check...I was reading the other day that antibodies work on the principle of making ozone...now where the problem with using oxidative therapy is that if your cells are weak and sickly then the oxygen will zap the cell...what you do is take antioxidents..vitamin c and e and msm,etc..to build up the cells and make them healthy and strong so that the oxygen in what ever form will not harm the cell...then there is no problem...the Eternal said that life was in the blood...oxygen...ions of o and cs both do an incredible of killing the bad boys..what a blessing...garyc
CSH2O2 in a nebulizer
Anyone know of a safe dosage to use 3% peroxide on a nebulizer? Can I use it straight, or should I add distilled water to dilute it more? -Ken Bagwell __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSH2O2 - 2
THANKS DAN, DID NOT KNOW OF THE DIFFERENT GRADES. -- Original message -- From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com thanks Dan excellent infodeb Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus. (Dr. Farr refers to this as the Alka-Seltzer effect.) The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated in the lungs. The amount of bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be regulated by simply turning the H202 on and off. As the peroxide clears the lung surface and destroys the bacterial infections, the patient regains the ability to breath more normally. We continue to receive reports from patients for whom the technique has improved breathing so much that a wheelchair and supplemental oxygen are no longer needed. If you would like to find a doctor in your area trained in the use of intravenous H202 infusion, contact the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM), P.O. Box 13205, Oklahoma City, OK 73113 at (405) 478-4266. They can provide names and addresses of doctors using the procedure in your area. If emphysema were the only ailment successfully treated with H202 therapy, it would still rank as one of the top health discoveries of all time. Fortunately, H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. A closer look at how we have decreased the availability of external and internal oxygen, will show you just how important this can be. If you were not too occupied with trying to hide dissection specimens in the other student´s desks, you might remember from elementary science courses that our atmosphere contains about 20% oxygen. That is under ideal circumstances. It has recently been reported that in many of our more polluted cities, there levels have dropped to around 10%! (I have already mentioned how less hydrogen peroxide-containing rain is reaching the earth´s surface. With increased pollution it is reacting with airborne toxins before it even reaches the ground.) And everyone, by now, knows the oxygen-generating rain forests are being destroyed worldwide, which further reduces available oxygen. Internal oxygen availability is also under attack. Chlorination of drinking water removes oxygen. Cooking and over-processing of our foods lowers their oxygen content. Unrestrained antibiotic use destroys beneficial oxygen- - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. ---BeginMessage--- thanks Dan excellent infodebDan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus. (Dr. Farr refers to this as the "Alka-Seltzer effect.")The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated in the lungs. The amount of bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be regulated by simply turning the H202 on and off.As the peroxide clears the lung surface and destroys the bacterial infections, the patient regains the ability to breath more normally. We continue to receive reports from patients for whom the technique has improved breathing so much that a wheelchair and supplemental oxygen are no longer needed.If you would like to find a doctor in your area trained in the use of intravenous H202 infusion, contact the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM), P.O. Box 13205, Oklahoma City, OK 73113 at (405) 478-4266. They can provide names and addresses of doctors using the procedure in your area.If emphysema were the only ailment successfully treated with H202 therapy, it would still rank as one of the top health discoveries of all time. Fortunately, H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. A closer look at how we have decreased the availability of external and internal oxygen, will show you just how important this can be.If you were not too occupied with trying to hide dissection specimens in the other student´s desks, you might remember from elementary science courses that our atmosphere contains about 20% oxygen. That is under ideal circumstances.It has recently been reported that in many of our more polluted cities, there levels have dropped to around 10%! (I have already mentioned how less hydrogen peroxide-containing rain is reaching the earth´s surface.With increased pollution it is
CSH2O2 - 2
We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus. (Dr. Farr refers to this as the Alka-Seltzer effect.) The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated in the lungs. The amount of bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be regulated by simply turning the H202 on and off. As the peroxide clears the lung surface and destroys the bacterial infections, the patient regains the ability to breath more normally. We continue to receive reports from patients for whom the technique has improved breathing so much that a wheelchair and supplemental oxygen are no longer needed. If you would like to find a doctor in your area trained in the use of intravenous H202 infusion, contact the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM), P.O. Box 13205, Oklahoma City, OK 73113 at (405) 478-4266. They can provide names and addresses of doctors using the procedure in your area. If emphysema were the only ailment successfully treated with H202 therapy, it would still rank as one of the top health discoveries of all time. Fortunately, H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. A closer look at how we have decreased the availability of external and internal oxygen, will show you just how important this can be. If you were not too occupied with trying to hide dissection specimens in the other student´s desks, you might remember from elementary science courses that our atmosphere contains about 20% oxygen. That is under ideal circumstances. It has recently been reported that in many of our more polluted cities, there levels have dropped to around 10%! (I have already mentioned how less hydrogen peroxide-containing rain is reaching the earth´s surface. With increased pollution it is reacting with airborne toxins before it even reaches the ground.) And everyone, by now, knows the oxygen-generating rain forests are being destroyed worldwide, which further reduces available oxygen. Internal oxygen availability is also under attack. Chlorination of drinking water removes oxygen. Cooking and over-processing of our foods lowers their oxygen content. Unrestrained antibiotic use destroys beneficial oxygen-creating bacteria in the intestinal tract. Dr. Johanna Budwig of Germany has shown that for proper cellular utilization of oxygen to take place, our diets must contain adequate amounts of unsaturated fatty acids. Unfortunately, the oils rich in these fatty acids have become less and less popular with the food industry. Their very nature makes them more biologically active, which requires more careful processing and gives them a shorter shelf-life. Rather than deal with these challenges, the food industry has turned to the use of synthetic fats and dangerous processes like hydrogenation. It´s obvious that our oxygen needs are not being met. Several of the most common ailments now affecting our population are directly related to oxygen starvation. Asthma, emphysema, and lung disease are on the rise, especially in the polluted metropolitan areas. Cases of constipation, diarrhea, intestinal parasites and bowel cancer are all on the upswing. Periodontal disease is endemic in the adult population of this country. Cancer of all forms continues to increase. Immune system disorders are sweeping the globe. Chronic fatigue, Yuppie Flu and hundreds of other strange viral diseases have begun to surface. Ironically, many of the new miracle drugs and nutritional supplements used to treat these conditions work by increasing cellular oxygen (oftentimes through H202 formation). For example, the miracle nutrient, Coenzyme Q10, helps regulate intercellular oxidation. Organic germanium, which received considerable publicity not too long ago, also increases oxygen levels at the cellular level. And even substances like niacin and vitamin E promote tissue oxidation through their dilation of blood vessels. Hydrogen peroxide is only one of the many components that help regulate the amount of oxygen getting to your cells. Its presence is vital for many other functions as well. It is required for the production of thyroid hormone and sexual hormones. (Mol Cell Endocrinol 86;46(2): 149-154) (Steroids 82;40(5):5690579). It stimulates the production of interferon (J Immunol 85;134(4):24492455). It dilates blood vessels in the heart and brain (Am J Physiol 86;250 (5 pt 2): H815-821 and (2 pt 2):H157-162). It improves glucose utilization in diabetics (Proceedings of the IBOM Conference 1989, 1990, 1991). The closer you look at hydrogen peroxide, the less surprising it becomes that it can help such a wide variety of conditions. The following is only a partial
Re: CSH2O2 - 2
thanks Dan excellent infodeb Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: We continue to hear the same story from Dr. Farr and others who use intravenous infusion for emphysema and congestive lung problems. Within minutes oxygen from hydrogen peroxide begins to bubble up between the membrane lining the lungs sacs and the accumulated mucus. (Dr. Farr refers to this as the Alka-Seltzer effect.) The patient begins to cough and expel the material that has accumulated in the lungs. The amount of bubbling, coughing, and cleansing can be regulated by simply turning the H202 on and off. As the peroxide clears the lung surface and destroys the bacterial infections, the patient regains the ability to breath more normally. We continue to receive reports from patients for whom the technique has improved breathing so much that a wheelchair and supplemental oxygen are no longer needed. If you would like to find a doctor in your area trained in the use of intravenous H202 infusion, contact the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation (IBOM), P.O. Box 13205, Oklahoma City, OK 73113 at (405) 478-4266. They can provide names and addresses of doctors using the procedure in your area. If emphysema were the only ailment successfully treated with H202 therapy, it would still rank as one of the top health discoveries of all time. Fortunately, H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. A closer look at how we have decreased the availability of external and internal oxygen, will show you just how important this can be. If you were not too occupied with trying to hide dissection specimens in the other student´s desks, you might remember from elementary science courses that our atmosphere contains about 20% oxygen. That is under ideal circumstances. It has recently been reported that in many of our more polluted cities, there levels have dropped to around 10%! (I have already mentioned how less hydrogen peroxide-containing rain is reaching the earth´s surface. With increased pollution it is reacting with airborne toxins before it even reaches the ground.) And everyone, by now, knows the oxygen-generating rain forests are being destroyed worldwide, which further reduces available oxygen. Internal oxygen availability is also under attack. Chlorination of drinking water removes oxygen. Cooking and over-processing of our foods lowers their oxygen content. Unrestrained antibiotic use destroys beneficial oxygen- - Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: CSH2O2 Verified
## Could you clarify that second part just a touch? Why would splitting ions [or particles] change PPM one way or the other? Ode Conclusion: Since the measurable concentration (PPM) did not change with the addition of the H2O2 the color change must be due to change in particle shape. If there had been a splitting of agglomerated silver ions then the PPM should have increased. Ole Bob No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.10 - Release Date: 1/2/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11 - Release Date: 1/2/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 Verified
Robert Berger wrote: Happy New Years Listers, There has been much discussion about the use of H2O2 when added to your silver hydrosol. Therefore I setup an experiment today to provide some positive answers to the question. Using the product of a 2 gallon microwave power supply brew made on 11-9-05 that was a light yellow color but clear. Tested on 11-10-05 and retested today before and after adding 5 drops of 35 H2O2 to a one gallon jug. Test data for 11-10-05: Ag+ =8.6 PPM; Conductance = 10.3 uS/cm Retest; on 1-2-06: Ag+= 8.58 PPM; conductance = 8.3 uS/cm Test data after the addition of 5 drops of 35% H2O2 per gallon. The yellow color completely disappeared and then the test data taken. 1-2-06 Ag+ = 8.58 PPM; Conductance = 9.4 uS/cm. The addition of the H2O2 does create a slight astringent taste but it is masked with the addition of Gatorade. Conclusion: Since the measurable concentration (PPM) did not change with the addition of the H2O2 the color change must be due to change in particle shape. How can the ppm of silver change, silver is an element, and no matter what you do with it it will still be silver. Of course the ppm of silver did not change. Since the ppm cannot change, and did not change, how can you reach any conclusion as to it meaning that something was due to something? We know that the change from yellow to clear is due to a reduction in particle size already. The discussions have been not on if it reduces the particle size, but by what mechanism it does this. If there had been a splitting of agglomerated silver ions then the PPM should have increased. Huh? The ppm of silver cannot increase. That would require a nuclear reaction. The total silver content HAS to remain constant no matter what chemical reaction is done. Also I have no idea of what you mean by agglomerated silver ions. We I think have decided to call the two components of EIS molecular ions and nano particles. Marshall Ole Bob
CSH2O2 Verified
Happy New Years Listers, There has been much discussion about the use of H2O2 when added to your silver hydrosol. Therefore I setup an experiment today to provide some positive answers to the question. Using the product of a 2 gallon microwave power supply brew made on 11-9-05 that was a light yellow color but clear. Tested on 11-10-05 and retested today before and after adding 5 drops of 35 H2O2 to a one gallon jug. Test data for 11-10-05: Ag+ =8.6 PPM; Conductance = 10.3 uS/cm Retest; on 1-2-06: Ag+= 8.58 PPM; conductance = 8.3 uS/cm Test data after the addition of 5 drops of 35% H2O2 per gallon. The yellow color completely disappeared and then the test data taken. 1-2-06 Ag+ = 8.58 PPM; Conductance = 9.4 uS/cm. The addition of the H2O2 does create a slight astringent taste but it is masked with the addition of Gatorade. Conclusion: Since the measurable concentration (PPM) did not change with the addition of the H2O2 the color change must be due to change in particle shape. If there had been a splitting of agglomerated silver ions then the PPM should have increased. Ole Bob
Re: CSH2O2 Verified
Hi bob, ARe you saying that the end result was a larger particle size and shape and that the PMM basically remained the same? Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote: Conclusion: Since the measurable concentration (PPM) did not change with the addition of the H2O2 the color change must be due to change in particle shape. If there had been a splitting of agglomerated silver ions then the PPM should have increased. Ole Bob Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: CSH2O2 Verified
Hi Bob: Once the h2o2 is added to the sol, agglomerates are either reduced ( creating more silver particles, which will not effect conductivity ) or they plate out ( which will not increase conductivity ) or drop from suspension. In a quality brew, I believe that particle sizing is effected, based on some 'ad-hoc' measurements once done by a water quality plant ( SEM before and after the addition of h2o2 demonstrated smaller particle sizing on the same batch of CS, before and after comparisons ). Kind Regards, Jason Robert Berger wrote: Happy New Years Listers, There has been much discussion about the use of H2O2 when added to your silver hydrosol. Therefore I setup an experiment today to provide some positive answers to the question. Using the product of a 2 gallon microwave power supply brew made on 11-9-05 that was a light yellow color but clear. Tested on 11-10-05 and retested today before and after adding 5 drops of 35 H2O2 to a one gallon jug. Test data for 11-10-05: Ag+ =8.6 PPM; Conductance = 10.3 uS/cm Retest; on 1-2-06: Ag+= 8.58 PPM; conductance = 8.3 uS/cm Test data after the addition of 5 drops of 35% H2O2 per gallon. The yellow color completely disappeared and then the test data taken. 1-2-06 Ag+ = 8.58 PPM; Conductance = 9.4 uS/cm. The addition of the H2O2 does create a slight astringent taste but it is masked with the addition of Gatorade. Conclusion: Since the measurable concentration (PPM) did not change with the addition of the H2O2 the color change must be due to change in particle shape. If there had been a splitting of agglomerated silver ions then the PPM should have increased. Ole Bob No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.10/218 - Release Date: 1/2/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
I have never seen on where the top cannot be removed. Normally you can grip it (the part that goes into the nose) and pull while twiting and it will come right out. The spray mechanism is normally simply pressed into the top of the squeeze bottle. Marshall epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does any From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:24 -0500 epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. They use to use squeeze bottles. If they are using factory pressurized bottles now, see if you can find an older style that you squeeze to make it spray. Those are easy to refill. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Yes thank you Marshall, I got the just of it after seeing the container. E. From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:13:53 -0500 I have never seen on where the top cannot be removed. Normally you can grip it (the part that goes into the nose) and pull while twiting and it will come right out. The spray mechanism is normally simply pressed into the top of the squeeze bottle. Marshall epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does any From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:24 -0500 epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. They use to use squeeze bottles. If they are using factory pressurized bottles now, see if you can find an older style that you squeeze to make it spray. Those are easy to refill. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Once you know you have a cold, it's already too late to not have one, so no, CS won't cure that, but it can lessen the time and severity of the clean up a great deal. Or, CS helps make a cold not get worse. Most of the symptoms are suffered after the cold is gone. CS will help a lot with that beat with a lead pipe feeling very fast, but the guy with the pipe already messed up the living room by the time you noticed he was there. The sooner you start killing of the baddies, the less crud they'll put into your system to eliminate later with runny nose and cough. They replicate at a certain rate and CS kills them at a certain rate depending on how much silver gets to where it needs to be and how fast your immune system responds. The further along the cold is, the more baddies there are and the faster the overall replication rate will be. I find that sipping and inhaling CS mist CS all day long every day, every time I am reminded to do so by the cold ...till I forget to... lessens the time an already established cold or flu has an effect down to about 1 to 2 days with only minor sniffles afterwards...IF, I start at the very first sign that a cold exists. Starting 2 days late doesn't do much. Best bet is to bar the door before the pipe swinging guy gets in. Ode At 11:20 AM 12/21/2005 -0600, you wrote: Oh, ok. Will cs help to get rid of a cold once it has taken hold? Thank you. Shelli - Original Message - From: Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:52 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS As soon as you feel cold symptoms you need to take about an ounce of CS every hour. Gargle with it, spray it in your eyes, put a drop in each nostril, put a drop in each ear. Three times a day is not enough at the onset of a cold. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Use the type that comes in a plastic squeeze bottle. Ode At 05:59 PM 12/21/2005 +, you wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. Regards, ernie From: Shelli me...@insightbb.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:22:41 -0600 I did start misting my face and tried to breath it in sporadically but I wasn't sure with the H2O2 if I should get it in my eyes. I just wish I could get rid of the cough. It is keeping me, and probably my family, up at night. I will try to remember to mist myself when coming from somewhere. That sounds like a great idea. Thanks. Shelli - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS And...if you mist your eyes and hands (and maybe ears) with straight CS, inhaling the mist also, every single time you are out in public you probably won't ever catch another cold. I mist as soon as I get back to my car from any shopping excursion. I am forever grateful to whoever it was who told me about misting as stopping the bugs at the entrance. The only cold I've had in 3 years is the one I caught when I got very sloppy and was forgetting to mist more often than not. Many women who use makeup are very reluctant to do this, but I've found it doesn't mess things up if you mist from a few inches away from your face and just blink your eyes into the mist. It isn't necessary to spray from 2 inches away, nor is it necessary to wet the eyes/face enough to cause makeup to run. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Fill with a syringe and needle? Squeeze flat, submerge orifice in CS and let go. [the reverse of emptying it, squeeze bulb style] ode At 07:08 PM 12/21/2005 +, you wrote: My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does any From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:24 -0500 epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. They use to use squeeze bottles. If they are using factory pressurized bottles now, see if you can find an older style that you squeeze to make it spray. Those are easy to refill. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2 - Release Date: 12/20/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Ode Coyote wrote: Once you know you have a cold, it's already too late to not have one, so no, CS won't cure that, but it can lessen the time and severity of the clean up a great deal. That probably depends on how aware you are of your body's messages. A cold for me almost always starts off with a scratchy throat. I have maybe 3 or 4 hours to start dosing with CS, and if I do so, sipping a little CS every few minutes over a couple of hour period, I can consistently stop the cold dead in it's tracts. Sometimes it will try to come back 6 or 8 hours later, and sometimes it won't, but if it does, I simply repeat the sipping of CS, and after trying to come back no more than 3 or 4 times, which gives the body plenty of time to identify it and build up a little immunity to it, it will no longer come back. On top of that, I become immune to that particular variety just like I had caught it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
In a message dated 12/22/2005 8:13:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS It is hard to pry the very top plastic cap off, and takes a lot of effort, but you can do it if you try. Jill
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
For spraying you should you CS straight, no H2o2. Topically, you never need to add H2o2. \Nancy - Original Message - From: Shelli me...@insightbb.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS I did start misting my face and tried to breath it in sporadically but I wasn't sure with the H2O2 if I should get it in my eyes. I just wish I could get rid of the cough. It is keeping me, and probably my family, up at night. I will try to remember to mist myself when coming from somewhere. That sounds like a great idea. Thanks. Shelli -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
And...if you mist your eyes and hands (and maybe ears) with straight CS, inhaling the mist also, every single time you are out in public you probably won't ever catch another cold. I mist as soon as I get back to my car from any shopping excursion. I am forever grateful to whoever it was who told me about misting as stopping the bugs at the entrance. The only cold I've had in 3 years is the one I caught when I got very sloppy and was forgetting to mist more often than not. Many women who use makeup are very reluctant to do this, but I've found it doesn't mess things up if you mist from a few inches away from your face and just blink your eyes into the mist. It isn't necessary to spray from 2 inches away, nor is it necessary to wet the eyes/face enough to cause makeup to run. sol Nancy DeLise wrote: As soon as you feel cold symptoms you need to take about an ounce of CS every hour. Gargle with it, spray it in your eyes, put a drop in each nostril, put a drop in each ear. Three times a day is not enough at the onset of a cold. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Oh, ok. Will cs help to get rid of a cold once it has taken hold? Thank you. Shelli - Original Message - From: Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:52 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS As soon as you feel cold symptoms you need to take about an ounce of CS every hour. Gargle with it, spray it in your eyes, put a drop in each nostril, put a drop in each ear. Three times a day is not enough at the onset of a cold. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
I did start misting my face and tried to breath it in sporadically but I wasn't sure with the H2O2 if I should get it in my eyes. I just wish I could get rid of the cough. It is keeping me, and probably my family, up at night. I will try to remember to mist myself when coming from somewhere. That sounds like a great idea. Thanks. Shelli - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS And...if you mist your eyes and hands (and maybe ears) with straight CS, inhaling the mist also, every single time you are out in public you probably won't ever catch another cold. I mist as soon as I get back to my car from any shopping excursion. I am forever grateful to whoever it was who told me about misting as stopping the bugs at the entrance. The only cold I've had in 3 years is the one I caught when I got very sloppy and was forgetting to mist more often than not. Many women who use makeup are very reluctant to do this, but I've found it doesn't mess things up if you mist from a few inches away from your face and just blink your eyes into the mist. It isn't necessary to spray from 2 inches away, nor is it necessary to wet the eyes/face enough to cause makeup to run. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. Regards, ernie From: Shelli me...@insightbb.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:22:41 -0600 I did start misting my face and tried to breath it in sporadically but I wasn't sure with the H2O2 if I should get it in my eyes. I just wish I could get rid of the cough. It is keeping me, and probably my family, up at night. I will try to remember to mist myself when coming from somewhere. That sounds like a great idea. Thanks. Shelli - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS And...if you mist your eyes and hands (and maybe ears) with straight CS, inhaling the mist also, every single time you are out in public you probably won't ever catch another cold. I mist as soon as I get back to my car from any shopping excursion. I am forever grateful to whoever it was who told me about misting as stopping the bugs at the entrance. The only cold I've had in 3 years is the one I caught when I got very sloppy and was forgetting to mist more often than not. Many women who use makeup are very reluctant to do this, but I've found it doesn't mess things up if you mist from a few inches away from your face and just blink your eyes into the mist. It isn't necessary to spray from 2 inches away, nor is it necessary to wet the eyes/face enough to cause makeup to run. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. They use to use squeeze bottles. If they are using factory pressurized bottles now, see if you can find an older style that you squeeze to make it spray. Those are easy to refill. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does anyone know of another type which would work? From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:24 -0500 epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. They use to use squeeze bottles. If they are using factory pressurized bottles now, see if you can find an older style that you squeeze to make it spray. Those are easy to refill. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and EIS
My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does any From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:24 -0500 epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello, some time back someone posted information about using a Saline solution mist for nasal cleansing using CS in substitution to the solution found in the bottle when purchased. To my suspicion all the nasal mist spray bottles are sealed so that pressure can be maintained in the bottle. This is what was told to me by the pharmacist. With this being said. How would one go about dumping the saline solution and replacing it with CS? There must over 15 different brands and all are manufactured the same way. They use to use squeeze bottles. If they are using factory pressurized bottles now, see if you can find an older style that you squeeze to make it spray. Those are easy to refill. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I buy the nasal pump bottles here in Canada. I throw out the contents and fill with CS or H202. I spray up my nostrils and into my throat and inhale the mist. It is a bit expensive and I get what I want. If anyone knows a less expensive way, I would like to hear about it. Kallie Miller - Original Message - From: epa...@sympatico.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does any -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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- Original Message - My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. What if.. ..you emptied the contents by squeezing it all outthen used it like a turkey baster, sucking up some fresh distilled water and squirt it back out again, over and over again to rinse it out, then suck up some silver solution with it and use it like normal? Rich Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, Very good. Just wondering where I can get it. I live in Toronto and would be interested in getting this pump. Thanks. ernie From: 4optimallife 4optimall...@rogers.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:33:22 -0500 I buy the nasal pump bottles here in Canada. I throw out the contents and fill with CS or H202. I spray up my nostrils and into my throat and inhale the mist. It is a bit expensive and I get what I want. If anyone knows a less expensive way, I would like to hear about it. Kallie Miller - Original Message - From: epa...@sympatico.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. Does any -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Purchased at Shopper's Drug Mart: Rhinaris and Drixoral are the products in the pump when I purchased. Kallie - Original Message - From: epa...@sympatico.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Hi, Very good. Just wondering where I can get it. I live in Toronto and would be interested in getting this pump. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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well let me say this!!! what a brilliant idea..who would have thought!!? Obviously not me. Thank you so very much Rich. I will definately do that. I can't see why that wouldn't work. Well that solves that dilema.. lol.. many thanks. ernie From: Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:01:14 -0600 - Original Message - My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. What if.. ..you emptied the contents by squeezing it all outthen used it like a turkey baster, sucking up some fresh distilled water and squirt it back out again, over and over again to rinse it out, then suck up some silver solution with it and use it like normal? Rich Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Does anyone here have experience with Raynauds phenommenon? Condition where extremities such as fingers and toes lose circulation and become cold. Ernie From: Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and EIS Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:01:14 -0600 - Original Message - My apologizes.. They are plastic flatish squeeze bottles. They are all sealed and the tops cannot be removed. What if.. ..you emptied the contents by squeezing it all outthen used it like a turkey baster, sucking up some fresh distilled water and squirt it back out again, over and over again to rinse it out, then suck up some silver solution with it and use it like normal? Rich Adams -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
