RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :)
Debbie The infra red machine we have is a biopack (http://bioscanlight.com/product.php?productid=14cat=19page=1). On the biopack it has seven settings for depth or intensity. It was originally purchased to be used on our horses to treat multiple ailments but I use it for pain and treatment on us. We also have the scanner and it is wonderful. It came with an attachment for scanning horses and one for humans. It pinpoints the area where you should treat. The scar I had was very puckered and hard for many years. It is now flat and smooth. Dianne Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:39:30 -0700 From: devorah...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Will both these methods go deep into the neck? thanks Debbie --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 4:49 PM Infra red light therapy also helps. I had very bad scaring from c-section (baby is now 31) so it had been a very long time. It was about five years ago I started using the infra red machine on the scaring and it softened and an old stitch even worked up to the surface and came out. The scare is still there but soft. Dianne Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Along with this, I think one needs to do something to soften the scars and tissue so that blood flow can get to the area. Rub in castor oil over the area once or twice a day as well. Castor oil by itself will soften scars and cause them to be absorbed somewhat. You can use a cloth soaked in castor oil, covered with plastic and a towel, and some heat from a heating pad or hot water bottle. People with intestinal adhesions have had good luck with castor oil packs. This takes some time, you have to do it more than once. Dan On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Linda Ellislellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm taking Serrapeptase, too, in an experiment to see if it helps with scarring, old and new. I started out taking one a day, but after six months I saw no changes in scars. But interestingly, at about four months, my dental hygienist made a comment that the plaque on my teeth was very soft this time, and blew off when he just touched it. This is a change from my previous hygiene appointments. I noted that Serrapeptase is also supposed to help with arterial plaque, and asked if he and the dentist thought that maybe my regular regimen was having some effect on that. They made a note of it in my file, and the plaque since then still seems to be very soft. Is it the Serrapeptase? Don't know, for sure, or if I'm unknowingly doing a better job of home maintenance. I guess the way to find out would be to stop and see if the plaque reverts to the hard stuff. Not willing to do that experiment at this time, as I want to see what progress may be made on the scars and blood pressure, if any. It's also supposed to help with blood pressure, and while I had one reading that was lower than my normal, I haven't been monitoring that the way that I should. Anyhow, recently, I upped my Serrapeptase to two per day, to see if there is any better effect on the scars. I know sometimes these more natural healing therapies take a lot more time, and I'm patient, but there will come a time Linda Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. William Faulkner - Original Message From: Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:18:39 PM Subject: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :)
Hi Dianne. Can you tell me more about the scanner? Where you got it, how much it cost, etc.? Would it pinpoint the area to treat with a cold laser do you think? Mary Ann From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:52:33 AM Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :) Debbie The infra red machine we have is a biopack (http://bioscanlight.com/product.php?productid=14cat=19page=1). On the biopack it has seven settings for depth or intensity. It was originally purchased to be used on our horses to treat multiple ailments but I use it for pain and treatment on us. We also have the scanner and it is wonderful. It came with an attachment for scanning horses and one for humans. It pinpoints the area where you should treat. The scar I had was very puckered and hard for many years. It is now flat and smooth. Dianne Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:39:30 -0700 From: devorah...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Will both these methods go deep into the neck? thanks Debbie --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 4:49 PM Infra red light therapy also helps. I had very bad scaring from c-section (baby is now 31) so it had been a very long time. It was about five years ago I started using the infra red machine on the scaring and it softened and an old stitch even worked up to the surface and came out. The scare is still there but soft. Dianne Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Along with this, I think one needs to do something to soften the scars and tissue so that blood flow can get to the area. Rub in castor oil over the area once or twice a day as well. Castor oil by itself will soften scars and cause them to be absorbed somewhat. You can use a cloth soaked in castor oil, covered with plastic and a towel, and some heat from a heating pad or hot water bottle. People with intestinal adhesions have had good luck with castor oil packs. This takes some time, you have to do it more than once. Dan On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Linda Ellislellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm taking Serrapeptase, too, in an experiment to see if it helps with scarring, old and new. I started out taking one a day, but after six months I saw no changes in scars. But interestingly, at about four months, my dental hygienist made a comment that the plaque on my teeth was very soft this time, and blew off when he just touched it. This is a change from my previous hygiene appointments. I noted that Serrapeptase is also supposed to help with arterial plaque, and asked if he and the dentist thought that maybe my regular regimen was having some effect on that. They made a note of it in my file, and the plaque since then still seems to be very soft. Is it the Serrapeptase? Don't know, for sure, or if I'm unknowingly doing a better job of home maintenance. I guess the way to find out would be to stop and see if the plaque reverts to the hard stuff. Not willing to do that experiment at this time, as I want to see what progress may be made on the scars and blood pressure, if any. It's also supposed to help with blood pressure, and while I had one reading that was lower than my normal, I haven't been monitoring that the way that I should. Anyhow, recently, I upped my Serrapeptase to two per day, to see if there is any better effect on the scars. I know sometimes these more natural healing therapies take a lot more time, and I'm patient, but there will come a time Linda Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. William Faulkner - Original Message From: Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:18:39 PM Subject: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message
Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :)
Hi Dianne, Can you mention which machine you used? Thanks, Peter - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :) Will both these methods go deep into the neck? thanks Debbie --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 4:49 PM Infra red light therapy also helps. I had very bad scaring from c-section (baby is now 31) so it had been a very long time. It was about five years ago I started using the infra red machine on the scaring and it softened and an old stitch even worked up to the surface and came out. The scare is still there but soft. Dianne Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Along with this, I think one needs to do something to soften the scars and tissue so that blood flow can get to the area. Rub in castor oil over the area once or twice a day as well. Castor oil by itself will soften scars and cause them to be absorbed somewhat. You can use a cloth soaked in castor oil, covered with plastic and a towel, and some heat from a heating pad or hot water bottle. People with intestinal adhesions have had good luck with castor oil packs. This takes some time, you have to do it more than once. Dan On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Linda Ellislellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm taking Serrapeptase, too, in an experiment to see if it helps with scarring, old and new. I started out taking one a day, but after six months I saw no changes in scars. But interestingly, at about four months, my dental hygienist made a comment that the plaque on my teeth was very soft this time, and blew off when he just touched it. This is a change from my previous hygiene appointments. I noted that Serrapeptase is also supposed to help with arterial plaque, and asked if he and the dentist thought that maybe my regular regimen was having some effect on that. They made a note of it in my file, and the plaque since then still seems to be very soft. Is it the Serrapeptase? Don't know, for sure, or if I'm unknowingly doing a better job of home maintenance. I guess the way to find out would be to stop and see if the plaque reverts to the hard stuff. Not willing to do that experiment at this time, as I want to see what progress may be made on the scars and blood pressure, if any. It's also supposed to help with blood pressure, and while I had one reading that was lower than my normal, I haven't been monitoring that the way that I should. Anyhow, recently, I upped my Serrapeptase to two per day, to see if there is any better effect on the scars. I know sometimes these more natural healing therapies take a lot more time, and I'm patient, but there will come a time Linda Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. William Faulkner - Original Message From: Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:18:39 PM Subject: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down
Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT
Renee, such a success story. I am so glad your cat is now OK. Thanks for sharing that story. What was the ppm CS that you purchased for his burns? Thanks Orrilia From: Gaiacita gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT I want to add my burn story. Well, the burn story of my kitten. He was about 6 months old, jumped up on the stove and pulled a pan of hot grease down. It hit his rear back, went down from the spine to ankles on both back legs, and burnt off all the hair on the end of his tail. The burns on his legs were deep, burned off all the hair, and burnt the flesh down into the meat. It was about an inch wide on one leg and about a half inch wide on the other leg. He just laid and was miserable because whichever side he laid on he was in pain. We took his food and water to him as he didn't want to get up, and carried him to his litter box. I put fresh aloe vera gel (from my plants) on the burns twice to 3 times a day for the first 3 days. I knew I was causing him much pain when I touched him, but it had to be done. On the 4th morning I smacked myself in the forehead and ran to the health food store to buy some spray on CS. I started spraying his burns 4 to 6 times a day and you could see that it was MUCH easier on him, rather than me rubbing in gel. I was basically shocked at how fast the CS started working. The burns began, at the outside edges, to heal and every day you could see new skin growth. This did not happen with the aloe gel. Within 2 weeks the burns were sealed over with just a thin scab seam up the middle of the long burns. The leg that had the half inch wide burn started growing hair and it filled in so that you have to actually spread the hair to see a very fine line scar. On the leg that had the inch wide scar, the hair grew back till the area was about a half inch wide, from hip to ankle, getting thinner at the ankle. In the widest part, towards the top of the leg, no hair grew back. BUT--the skin is flat, pink and quite smooth looking and smooth to the touch, instead of puckered like normal burn scars are. He is now 6 years old and in perfect health. I would never be without CS again (bought my own maker after that) and it would be the first thing I reached for if I ever got burnt. Samala, Renee __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT
It's been almost 6 years ago, but if I remember correctly, it was 20ppm. I didn't know anything about CS and that was about all they carried, ppm wise, at that time. There was a 200ppm for $40, but I chose the lower $20 bottle as I had read on line the 20 ppm was good. ---Original Message--- Renee, such a success story. I am so glad your cat is now OK. Thanks for sharing that story. What was the ppm CS that you purchased for his burns? Thanks Orrilia From: Gaiacita gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT I want to add my burn story. Well, the burn story of my kitten. He was about 6 months old, jumped up on the stove and pulled a pan of hot grease down. It hit his rear back, went down from the spine to ankles on both back legs, and burnt off all the hair on the end of his tail. The burns on his legs were deep, burned off all the hair, and burnt the flesh down into the meat. It was about an inch wide on one leg and about a half inch wide on the other leg. He just laid and was miserable because whichever side he laid on he was in pain. We took his food and water to him as he didn't want to get up, and carried him to his litter box. I put fresh aloe vera gel (from my plants) on the burns twice to 3 times a day for the first 3 days. I knew I was causing him much pain when I touched him, but it had to be done. On the 4th morning I smacked myself in the forehead and ran to the health food store to buy some spray on CS. I started spraying his burns 4 to 6 times a day and you could see that it was MUCH easier on him, rather than me rubbing in gel. I was basically shocked at how fast the CS started working. The burns began at the outside edges, to heal and every day you could see new skin growth. This did not happen with the aloe gel. Within 2 weeks the burns were sealed over with just a thin scab seam up the middle of the long burns. The leg that had the half inch wide burn started growing hair and it filled in so that you have to actually spread the hair to see a very fine line scar On the leg that had the inch wide scar, the hair grew back till the area was about a half inch wide, from hip to ankle, getting thinner at the ankle. In the widest part, towards the top of the leg, no hair grew back. BUT--the skin is flat, pink and quite smooth looking and smooth to the touch instead of puckered like normal burn scars are. He is now 6 years old and in perfect health. I would never be without CS again (bought my own maker after that) and it would be the first thing I reached for if I ever got burnt. Samala, Renee Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail
Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT/Cat
I too am glad poor kitty so happy you cared for it, debbie --- On Sat, 7/11/09, jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jr orrilia dallas6...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:13 AM Renee, such a success story. I am so glad your cat is now OK. Thanks for sharing that story. What was the ppm CS that you purchased for his burns? Thanks Orrilia From: Gaiacita gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:08:38 PM Subject: Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT #yiv275569877 v\:* { } #yiv275569877 v\:* { } I want to add my burn story. Well, the burn story of my kitten. He was about 6 months old, jumped up on the stove and pulled a pan of hot grease down. It hit his rear back, went down from the spine to ankles on both back legs, and burnt off all the hair on the end of his tail. The burns on his legs were deep, burned off all the hair, and burnt the flesh down into the meat. It was about an inch wide on one leg and about a half inch wide on the other leg. He just laid and was miserable because whichever side he laid on he was in pain. We took his food and water to him as he didn't want to get up, and carried him to his litter box. I put fresh aloe vera gel (from my plants) on the burns twice to 3 times a day for the first 3 days. I knew I was causing him much pain when I touched him, but it had to be done. On the 4th morning I smacked myself in the forehead and ran to the health food store to buy some spray on CS. I started spraying his burns 4 to 6 times a day and you could see that it was MUCH easier on him, rather than me rubbing in gel. I was basically shocked at how fast the CS started working. The burns began, at the outside edges, to heal and every day you could see new skin growth. This did not happen with the aloe gel. Within 2 weeks the burns were sealed over with just a thin scab seam up the middle of the long burns. The leg that had the half inch wide burn started growing hair and it filled in so that you have to actually spread the hair to see a very fine line scar. On the leg that had the inch wide scar, the hair grew back till the area was about a half inch wide, from hip to ankle, getting thinner at the ankle. In the widest part, towards the top of the leg, no hair grew back. BUT--the skin is flat, pink and quite smooth looking and smooth to the touch, instead of puckered like normal burn scars are. He is now 6 years old and in perfect health. I would never be without CS again (bought my own maker after that) and it would be the first thing I reached for if I ever got burnt. Samala, Renee Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail
RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :)
Will both these methods go deep into the neck? thanks Debbie --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 4:49 PM #yiv1778089479 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1778089479 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Infra red light therapy also helps. I had very bad scaring from c-section (baby is now 31) so it had been a very long time. It was about five years ago I started using the infra red machine on the scaring and it softened and an old stitch even worked up to the surface and came out. The scare is still there but soft. Dianne Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Along with this, I think one needs to do something to soften the scars and tissue so that blood flow can get to the area. Rub in castor oil over the area once or twice a day as well. Castor oil by itself will soften scars and cause them to be absorbed somewhat. You can use a cloth soaked in castor oil, covered with plastic and a towel, and some heat from a heating pad or hot water bottle. People with intestinal adhesions have had good luck with castor oil packs. This takes some time, you have to do it more than once. Dan On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Linda Ellislellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm taking Serrapeptase, too, in an experiment to see if it helps with scarring, old and new. I started out taking one a day, but after six months I saw no changes in scars. But interestingly, at about four months, my dental hygienist made a comment that the plaque on my teeth was very soft this time, and blew off when he just touched it. This is a change from my previous hygiene appointments. I noted that Serrapeptase is also supposed to help with arterial plaque, and asked if he and the dentist thought that maybe my regular regimen was having some effect on that. They made a note of it in my file, and the plaque since then still seems to be very soft. Is it the Serrapeptase? Don't know, for sure, or if I'm unknowingly doing a better job of home maintenance. I guess the way to find out would be to stop and see if the plaque reverts to the hard stuff. Not willing to do that experiment at this time, as I want to see what progress may be made on the scars and blood pressure, if any. It's also supposed to help with blood pressure, and while I had one reading that was lower than my normal, I haven't been monitoring that the way that I should. Anyhow, recently, I upped my Serrapeptase to two per day, to see if there is any better effect on the scars. I know sometimes these more natural healing therapies take a lot more time, and I'm patient, but there will come a time Linda Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. William Faulkner - Original Message From: Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:18:39 PM Subject: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :)
The castor oil does appear to go into the body. I would recommend the castor oil pack using the heating pad method, or leave the pack on over night without heat. I would do it about 3 times per week unless you are really gung-ho and want to do it more often. You should see some result by the second week if it is softening up the scar tissue, I would think. You would have to do it longer to make permanent changes, but you might be able to back off on the frequency of application... Dan On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Deborah Gerarddevorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Will both these methods go deep into the neck? thanks Debbie --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 4:49 PM Infra red light therapy also helps. I had very bad scaring from c-section (baby is now 31) so it had been a very long time. It was about five years ago I started using the infra red machine on the scaring and it softened and an old stitch even worked up to the surface and came out. The scare is still there but soft. Dianne Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Along with this, I think one needs to do something to soften the scars and tissue so that blood flow can get to the area. Rub in castor oil over the area once or twice a day as well. Castor oil by itself will soften scars and cause them to be absorbed somewhat. You can use a cloth soaked in castor oil, covered with plastic and a towel, and some heat from a heating pad or hot water bottle. People with intestinal adhesions have had good luck with castor oil packs. This takes some time, you have to do it more than once. Dan On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Linda Ellislellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm taking Serrapeptase, too, in an experiment to see if it helps with scarring, old and new. I started out taking one a day, but after six months I saw no changes in scars. But interestingly, at about four months, my dental hygienist made a comment that the plaque on my teeth was very soft this time, and blew off when he just touched it. This is a change from my previous hygiene appointments. I noted that Serrapeptase is also supposed to help with arterial plaque, and asked if he and the dentist thought that maybe my regular regimen was having some effect on that. They made a note of it in my file, and the plaque since then still seems to be very soft. Is it the Serrapeptase? Don't know, for sure, or if I'm unknowingly doing a better job of home maintenance. I guess the way to find out would be to stop and see if the plaque reverts to the hard stuff. Not willing to do that experiment at this time, as I want to see what progress may be made on the scars and blood pressure, if any. It's also supposed to help with blood pressure, and while I had one reading that was lower than my normal, I haven't been monitoring that the way that I should. Anyhow, recently, I upped my Serrapeptase to two per day, to see if there is any better effect on the scars. I know sometimes these more natural healing therapies take a lot more time, and I'm patient, but there will come a time Linda Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. William Faulkner - Original Message From: Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:18:39 PM Subject: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Thanks for all the responses :)
castor oil packs. . . . Didn't Cayce use this methods for various ailments ? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yup! One of his favorites... Chuck Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've stayed alive. On 7/11/2009 5:50:17 PM, Smitty (papad...@gmail.com) wrote: castor oil packs. . . . Didn't Cayce use this methods for various ailments ? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.10/2231 - Release Date: 07/11/09 05:57:00
Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck?
Enzyme therapy is a good way to go for all this. Check out www.enzymestuff.com and also Dr William Wong on systemic enzymes. dee On 10 Jul 2009, at 02:18, Jean Baugh wrote: Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck?
I'm taking Serrapeptase, too, in an experiment to see if it helps with scarring, old and new. I started out taking one a day, but after six months I saw no changes in scars. But interestingly, at about four months, my dental hygienist made a comment that the plaque on my teeth was very soft this time, and blew off when he just touched it. This is a change from my previous hygiene appointments. I noted that Serrapeptase is also supposed to help with arterial plaque, and asked if he and the dentist thought that maybe my regular regimen was having some effect on that. They made a note of it in my file, and the plaque since then still seems to be very soft. Is it the Serrapeptase? Don't know, for sure, or if I'm unknowingly doing a better job of home maintenance. I guess the way to find out would be to stop and see if the plaque reverts to the hard stuff. Not willing to do that experiment at this time, as I want to see what progress may be made on the scars and blood pressure, if any. It's also supposed to help with blood pressure, and while I had one reading that was lower than my normal, I haven't been monitoring that the way that I should. Anyhow, recently, I upped my Serrapeptase to two per day, to see if there is any better effect on the scars. I know sometimes these more natural healing therapies take a lot more time, and I'm patient, but there will come a time Linda Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. William Faulkner - Original Message From: Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:18:39 PM Subject: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck?
Along with this, I think one needs to do something to soften the scars and tissue so that blood flow can get to the area. Rub in castor oil over the area once or twice a day as well. Castor oil by itself will soften scars and cause them to be absorbed somewhat. You can use a cloth soaked in castor oil, covered with plastic and a towel, and some heat from a heating pad or hot water bottle. People with intestinal adhesions have had good luck with castor oil packs. This takes some time, you have to do it more than once. Dan On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Linda Ellislellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm taking Serrapeptase, too, in an experiment to see if it helps with scarring, old and new. I started out taking one a day, but after six months I saw no changes in scars. But interestingly, at about four months, my dental hygienist made a comment that the plaque on my teeth was very soft this time, and blew off when he just touched it. This is a change from my previous hygiene appointments. I noted that Serrapeptase is also supposed to help with arterial plaque, and asked if he and the dentist thought that maybe my regular regimen was having some effect on that. They made a note of it in my file, and the plaque since then still seems to be very soft. Is it the Serrapeptase? Don't know, for sure, or if I'm unknowingly doing a better job of home maintenance. I guess the way to find out would be to stop and see if the plaque reverts to the hard stuff. Not willing to do that experiment at this time, as I want to see what progress may be made on the scars and blood pressure, if any. It's also supposed to help with blood pressure, and while I had one reading that was lower than my normal, I haven't been monitoring that the way that I should. Anyhow, recently, I upped my Serrapeptase to two per day, to see if there is any better effect on the scars. I know sometimes these more natural healing therapies take a lot more time, and I'm patient, but there will come a time Linda Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. William Faulkner - Original Message From: Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:18:39 PM Subject: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck?
Infra red light therapy also helps. I had very bad scaring from c-section (baby is now 31) so it had been a very long time. It was about five years ago I started using the infra red machine on the scaring and it softened and an old stitch even worked up to the surface and came out. The scare is still there but soft. Dianne Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Along with this, I think one needs to do something to soften the scars and tissue so that blood flow can get to the area. Rub in castor oil over the area once or twice a day as well. Castor oil by itself will soften scars and cause them to be absorbed somewhat. You can use a cloth soaked in castor oil, covered with plastic and a towel, and some heat from a heating pad or hot water bottle. People with intestinal adhesions have had good luck with castor oil packs. This takes some time, you have to do it more than once. Dan On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Linda Ellislellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm taking Serrapeptase, too, in an experiment to see if it helps with scarring, old and new. I started out taking one a day, but after six months I saw no changes in scars. But interestingly, at about four months, my dental hygienist made a comment that the plaque on my teeth was very soft this time, and blew off when he just touched it. This is a change from my previous hygiene appointments. I noted that Serrapeptase is also supposed to help with arterial plaque, and asked if he and the dentist thought that maybe my regular regimen was having some effect on that. They made a note of it in my file, and the plaque since then still seems to be very soft. Is it the Serrapeptase? Don't know, for sure, or if I'm unknowingly doing a better job of home maintenance. I guess the way to find out would be to stop and see if the plaque reverts to the hard stuff. Not willing to do that experiment at this time, as I want to see what progress may be made on the scars and blood pressure, if any. It's also supposed to help with blood pressure, and while I had one reading that was lower than my normal, I haven't been monitoring that the way that I should. Anyhow, recently, I upped my Serrapeptase to two per day, to see if there is any better effect on the scars. I know sometimes these more natural healing therapies take a lot more time, and I'm patient, but there will come a time Linda Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself. William Faulkner - Original Message From: Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:18:39 PM Subject: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
[RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT
Circa 1990, we were conducting research on protocols designed to mitigate against heavy scarring on 2nd and 3rd degree burn insults. Vitamin E, especially D Alpha, proved to be a splendid address. Even in some cases pronounced by M.D. burn specialists..to be "untreatable" relative to scar-formation abatement, we were able to achieve very powerful mitigation . Emboldened by this measure of success, we evaluated Vitamin E liquid (as a topical address) on a variety of existing scars of traumatic origin...with universally effective result. This protocol was "sensational" when instituted very early after the insulting episode. Just take the common, garden-variety Vitamin E capsules (almost all supplement stores have them)and puncture the gelatin encasement and apply topically...with the fingers is quite adequate. Repeated, every 2 or 3 hours during daylight period, this protocol, alolne, produced very effective scar prevention influence. Compared to areas (on the same volunteer) left untreated as a controlscarring was reduced as much as 80% in some cases. In later endeavors we experimented with CS/Dmso mixtures---plus the vitamin E component and achieved equally impressive scar suppression .together with COMPLETE control of the green bacteria so life-threatening to large-area burn victims. In earlier years, over 80% of the deaths occurring from severe 2nd and 3rd degree burns, were the direct result of non-controllable infection from this family of bacteria. To this day, there are still many hospital organizations that are completely ignorant of the wonderful control effected by Colloidal Silver on such challenges. I would be remiss if I did not comment on the splendid results we achieved circa 1999, utilizing Vitamin C solutions (saturated) for reducing both the volume and the height of existing scar fields---from a variety of body-surface wounds..by the simple expedient of copious spray./ Sincerely, Brooks Bradley br> -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? Date : Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:10:40 -0700 (PDT) From : Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com To : cs silver-list@eskimo.com Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT
Hey Brooks, What did you find works best on an old indented scar? Thanks in advance!! Brooks Bradley wrote: Circa 1990, we were conducting research on protocols designed to mitigate against heavy scarring on 2nd and 3rd degree burn insults. Vitamin E, especially D Alpha, proved to be a splendid address. Even in some cases pronounced by M.D. burn specialists..to be untreatable relative to scar-formation abatement, we were able to achieve very powerful mitigation . Emboldened by this measure of success, we evaluated Vitamin E liquid (as a topical address) on a variety of existing scars of traumatic origin...with universally effective result. This protocol was sensational when instituted very early after the insulting episode. Just take the common, garden-variety Vitamin E capsules (almost all supplement stores have them)and puncture the gelatin encasement and apply topically...with the fingers is quite adequate. Repeated, every 2 or 3 hours during daylight period, this protocol, alolne, produced very effective scar prevention influence. Compared to areas (on the same volunteer) left untreated as a controlscarring was reduced as much as 80% in some cases. In later endeavors we experimented with CS/Dmso mixtures---plus the vitamin E component and achieved equally impressive scar suppression .together with COMPLETE control of the green bacteria so life-threatening to large-area burn victims. In earlier years, over 80% of the deaths occurring from severe 2nd and 3rd degree burns, were the direct result of non-controllable infection from this family of bacteria. To this day, there are still many hospital organizations that are completely ignorant of the wonderful control effected by Colloidal Silver on such challenges. I would be remiss if I did not comment on the splendid results we achieved circa 1999, utilizing Vitamin C solutions (saturated) for reducing both the volume and the height of existing scar fields---from a variety of body-surface wounds..by the simple expedient of copious spray./ Sincerely, Brooks Bradley br -[ Received Mail Content ]-- *Subject : *CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? *Date : *Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:10:40 -0700 (PDT) *From : *Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com *To : *cs silver-list@eskimo.com Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT
I want to add my burn story. Well, the burn story of my kitten. He was about 6 months old, jumped up on the stove and pulled a pan of hot grease down. It hit his rear back, went down from the spine to ankles on both back legs, and burnt off all the hair on the end of his tail. The burns on his legs were deep, burned off all the hair, and burnt the flesh down into the meat. It was about an inch wide on one leg and about a half inch wide on the other leg. He just laid and was miserable because whichever side he laid on he was in pain. We took his food and water to him as he didn't want to get up, and carried him to his litter box. I put fresh aloe vera gel (from my plants) on the burns twice to 3 times a day for the first 3 days. I knew I was causing him much pain when I touched him, but it had to be done. On the 4th morning I smacked myself in the forehead and ran to the health food store to buy some spray on CS. I started spraying his burns 4 to 6 times a day and you could see that it was MUCH easier on him, rather than me rubbing in gel. I was basically shocked at how fast the CS started working. The burns began at the outside edges, to heal and every day you could see new skin growth. This did not happen with the aloe gel. Within 2 weeks the burns were sealed over with just a thin scab seam up the middle of the long burns. The leg that had the half inch wide burn started growing hair and it filled in so that you have to actually spread the hair to see a very fine line scar On the leg that had the inch wide scar, the hair grew back till the area was about a half inch wide, from hip to ankle, getting thinner at the ankle. In the widest part, towards the top of the leg, no hair grew back. BUT--the skin is flat, pink and quite smooth looking and smooth to the touch instead of puckered like normal burn scars are. He is now 6 years old and in perfect health. I would never be without CS again (bought my own maker after that) and it would be the first thing I reached for if I ever got burnt. Samala, Renee
Re: [RE]CSHelp for scar tissue in neck? COMMENT
Great story about your kitty. CS is miraculous stuff. Recently I had a friend at work that came in with what appeared to be a sunburn on his face. He said he had been arc welding and that he had inadvertently burned his face from that. He was very uncomfortable because it hurt quite a bit. I immediately pulled out my bottle of CS spray and he let me spray his face with it. (They are getting used to my weird ways...) He said the pain subsided almost instantly and the burn was much improved from just that one spraying. Dan On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Gaiacitagaiac...@gmail.com wrote: I want to add my burn story. Well, the burn story of my kitten. He was about 6 months old, jumped up on the stove and pulled a pan of hot grease down. It hit his rear back, went down from the spine to ankles on both back legs, and burnt off all the hair on the end of his tail. The burns on his legs were deep, burned off all the hair, and burnt the flesh down into the meat. It was about an inch wide on one leg and about a half inch wide on the other leg. He just laid and was miserable because whichever side he laid on he was in pain. We took his food and water to him as he didn't want to get up, and carried him to his litter box. I put fresh aloe vera gel (from my plants) on the burns twice to 3 times a day for the first 3 days. I knew I was causing him much pain when I touched him, but it had to be done. On the 4th morning I smacked myself in the forehead and ran to the health food store to buy some spray on CS. I started spraying his burns 4 to 6 times a day and you could see that it was MUCH easier on him, rather than me rubbing in gel. I was basically shocked at how fast the CS started working. The burns began, at the outside edges, to heal and every day you could see new skin growth. This did not happen with the aloe gel. Within 2 weeks the burns were sealed over with just a thin scab seam up the middle of the long burns. The leg that had the half inch wide burn started growing hair and it filled in so that you have to actually spread the hair to see a very fine line scar. On the leg that had the inch wide scar, the hair grew back till the area was about a half inch wide, from hip to ankle, getting thinner at the ankle. In the widest part, towards the top of the leg, no hair grew back. BUT--the skin is flat, pink and quite smooth looking and smooth to the touch, instead of puckered like normal burn scars are. He is now 6 years old and in perfect health. I would never be without CS again (bought my own maker after that) and it would be the first thing I reached for if I ever got burnt. Samala, Renee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHelp for scar tissue in neck?
Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb
CSHelp for scar tissue in neck?
Hi Deb, For what this worth, I saw a doctor on TV who recommends enzymes to dissolve fibrin, or scar tissue. I take Serrapeptase to hopefully keep fibrin in check, just in case. Jean * Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp for scar tissue in neck?
DMSO helps minimize scar tissue. Helps with pain also. Vitamin E helps minimize scar tissue. Apply to the scar. Chuck Caterpallor (n.): The color you turn after finding half a grub in the fruit you're eating. On 7/9/2009 9:10:40 PM, Deborah Gerard (devorah...@yahoo.com) wrote: Anyone on the list have experience with neck surgeries and having discomfort from scar tissue? Any suggestions on what a person could take to help the pain? thanks much, deb No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.9/2228 - Release Date: 07/09/09 18:07:00