Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[sol]

Ah, Grant,
  Probably most people on this list are well aware of the other side
opinions on CS. When someone posts the quotes you did, though, I for
one thought you yourself believed them. Before getting into using and
making CS I did my homework, reading tons of pros and cons, so am well
aware of the negative stuff and mis-information.
  Thanks, though, for trying to inform.
paula
- Original Message - 
From: Grant nes...@shaw.ca

 Obviously  you  don't read very well. I  am sorry now that I
pasted
 that  msg. from the other list..
 These are not my  opinions!
 I  was only hoping to enlighten  c/s members to  the sort of  other
 opinions that  other people  put forward





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Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Marshall Dudley]

Grant wrote:

 I was looking at this list a bit more today. (I'm new.)
 I had not realized what a new group this is--- there is
 not a lot of activity prior to October!
 I read some of the messages from the beginning of October.
 Lots of new people and lots of interesting and varied topics.

 So, by way of introduction:
 --I've been using H202 for maybe 3 to 4 years.  But I only
 take baths every once in a while.  I guess I used to take
 baths more.
 --I recently got a medical ozone machine, and an oxygen
 concentrator to go with it.  I've been considering this for a
 couple of years at least!
 --I am VERY familiar with mercury detox (which I see is
 sometimes a topic here), and am an expert regarding the
 mercury detox methods originated by Andy Cutler. I'm
 also quite familiar with many biomedical issues/treatments
 for autism/PDD/etc, and familiar with various mercury
 and heavy metals issues.  (Here is my NEW website with
 mercury detox information and resources:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
 --I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered
 carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC.

It is ozone that is toxic. Silver is 100% non-toxic to mammels.

 I am aware
 that it can be effective against pathogens.  (Mercury is
 also a good preservative, but I do NOT think it should be
 used for this purpose!)

Of course not, it is a heavy metal, which is highly toxic. Silver is a
non-toxic transition metal. I think you may be confusing the two since
they are both in dental amalgam and that is toxic due to the mercury.

Marshall

Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Grant]

Thank  you:
Paula...
I guess as you get to know the list members, 
then  you get to know who would

 be posting   stuff  
   Grant..
sol wrote:


Ah, Grant,
 Probably most people on this list are well aware of the other side
opinions on CS. When someone posts the quotes you did, though, I for
one thought you yourself believed them. Before getting into using and
making CS I did my homework, reading tons of pros and cons, so am well
aware of the negative stuff and mis-information.
 Thanks, though, for trying to inform.
paula
- Original Message - 
From: Grant nes...@shaw.ca


 


Obviously  you  don't read very well. I  am sorry now that I
   


pasted
 


that  msg. from the other list..
These are not my  opinions!
I  was only hoping to enlighten  c/s members to  the sort of  other
opinions that  other people  put forward

   






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Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Ode Coyote]

 Where did you see silver toxicity as a fact in doses in water possibly consumed at under 100 ppm?

The fact is, the water is more toxic at those levels than the silver that's in it.
If you drank enough water with 50 PPM silver in it [maybe even at 100 PPM] to reach a toxic level of silver, the water would kill you first.

I'd like to know where you've seen any toxicity studies that involved pure silver in pure water vs silver compounded with other chemicals taken in mega doses at thousands of PPM...and STILL little toxicity.
I read a study where they tried to kill dogs [werewolves?] with silver compounds and it took enough to make a small bullet with. They had a really hard time killing those doggies.

Argyria? [The Smurf effect]
Only about one in a thousand silver workers who inhale silver dust all day every day develops the condition and it has nothing to do with toxicity.
Even those people eliminate 94% of that inhaled dust within 48 hours...right through the blood stream. [Take the weekend off and you're darned near cleaned up...and most report that they never get sick from colds etc.]
Many studies mention the frustration experienced by researchers who fail to induce argyria no matter what doses they use of what compound.
But NO study I've ever seen used pure silver in water. [probably because getting enough silver to stay in water and do enough harm to make the study successful is next to impossible]

Follow the links on Rosemarys site and read those studies.
Experience the joys of misdirection and twisting conclusions by taking studies WAY out of context while totally ignoring the parameters of possibility in real life.
They disprove her conclusions and claims unless you think that fruit is dangerous because being hit hard by a ton of it can 'sometimes' break your bones.

Remember the LSD studies that proved that LSD broke gene structures apart?
..where half the mosquitos they injected with enough LSD to space out an elephant dissolved? [LOOK!  Genes broke up!]
Well, LSD is an acid right?  So is vitamin C. So is vinegar.  I wouldn't recommend injecting a quart bottle of either.
Using that comparitive logic, I could prove that being bitten by a horse fly will reduce you to a puddle of protein derivatives.

...doesn't happen, does it.


Now take a look at ozone and H2O2. {both are very corrosive hazardous materials}
Then look up free radicals.

Use your logic and tell me how in fact, dead you are.



Ode

At 08:46 PM 11/7/2003 -0800, you wrote: 

I was looking at this list a bit more today. (I'm new.)
I had not realized what a new group this is--- there is
not a lot of activity prior to October!
I read some of the messages from the beginning of October.
Lots of new people and lots of interesting and varied topics.

So, by way of introduction:
--I've been using H202 for maybe 3 to 4 years.  But I only
take baths every once in a while.  I guess I used to take
baths more.
--I recently got a medical ozone machine, and an oxygen
concentrator to go with it.  I've been considering this for a
couple of years at least!
--I am VERY familiar with mercury detox (which I see is
sometimes a topic here), and am an expert regarding the
mercury detox methods originated by Andy Cutler. I'm
also quite familiar with many biomedical issues/treatments
for autism/PDD/etc, and familiar with various mercury
and heavy metals issues.  (Here is my NEW website with
mercury detox information and resources:
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/>http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
--I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered
carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC.  I am aware
that it can be effective against pathogens.  (Mercury is
also a good preservative, but I do NOT think it should be
used for this purpose!)  I can possibly dig up more info
on this if anyone is interested...
--I have also used bentonite clay off and on for some time.
-- and maybe other things of interest with others on this lis   -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour  




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Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Robert Berger]

Hi Grant,

Let's get our chemistry straight!  Silver is not a heavy metal it is
what is known as a noble metal as is gold and platinum. The heavy metals
start with lead which has an atomic weight of 200. Silver is 107.

Silver is not toxic!!

Ole Bob




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Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Grant]

Not my words, just a snip posted from another list to let c/s members 
know  what others are saying..


Grant..

sol wrote:


Actually, it is ozone that is toxic, silver is not.
paula

- Original Message -
From: Grant mailto:nes...@shaw.ca
--I've been using H202 for maybe 3 to 4 years.  But I only
take baths every once in a while.  I guess I used to take
baths more.
--I recently got a medical ozone machine, and an oxygen
concentrator to go with it.  I've been considering this for a
couple of years at least!
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
--I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered
carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC.  I am aware





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Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Helena Hsu]

Aloha Grant,

Where did you learn that information..??

You say you've been on this CS list only since October..??  Perhaps you 
might be interested in reviewing the 
archives.   http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html


This is also an excellent site for more info:  http://www.silvermedicine.org/

Warmest Regards,
Helena

~
At 06:46 PM 11/07/2003, you wrote:

--I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered carefully in 
light of the fact silver can be TOXIC.

Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Grant]

Obviously  you  don't read very well. I  am sorry now that I   pasted 
that  msg. from the other list..

These are not my  opinions!
I  was only hoping to enlighten  c/s members to  the sort of  other 
opinions that  other people  put forward

   So ,
  Go 
figure...Grant

Helena Hsu wrote:


Aloha Grant,

Where did you learn that information..?? 

You say you've been on this CS list only since October..??  Perhaps 
you might be interested in reviewing the archives.   
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html


This is also an excellent site for more info:  
http://www.silvermedicine.org/


Warmest Regards,
Helena

~
At 06:46 PM 11/07/2003, you wrote:

--I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered 
carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC. 
 






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Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Hank]

I read that on the other group also, when I seen you post it here I thought 
oops here it comes, I was right but not the way I though it would be, yep it 
seems that some don't read all of the post before they post.

Sincerely Yours,
Hank
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Grant 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 12:36 AM
  Subject: Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)


  Obviously  you  don't read very well. I  am sorry now that I   pasted 
  that  msg. from the other list..
  These are not my  opinions!
  I  was only hoping to enlighten  c/s members to  the sort of  other 
  opinions that  other people  put forward
  So ,
 Go 
  figure...Grant
  Helena Hsu wrote:

   Aloha Grant,
  
   Where did you learn that information..?? 
  
   You say you've been on this CS list only since October..??  Perhaps 
   you might be interested in reviewing the archives.   
   http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
  
   This is also an excellent site for more info:  
   http://www.silvermedicine.org/
  
   Warmest Regards,
   Helena
  
   ~
   At 06:46 PM 11/07/2003, you wrote:
  
   --I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered 
   carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC. 

  



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CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[Grant]

I was looking at this list a bit more today. (I'm new.)
I had not realized what a "new" group this is--- there is
not a lot of activity prior to October!
I read some of the messages from the beginning of October.
Lots of new people and lots of interesting and varied topics.

So, by way of introduction:
--I've been using H202 for maybe 3 to 4 years. But I only
take baths every once in a while. I guess I used to take
baths more.
--I recently got a medical ozone machine, and an oxygen
concentrator to go with it. I've been considering this for a
couple of years at least!
--I am VERY familiar with mercury detox (which I see is
sometimes a topic here), and am an "expert" regarding the
mercury detox methods originated by Andy Cutler. I'm
also quite familiar with many biomedical issues/treatments
for autism/PDD/etc, and familiar with various mercury
and heavy metals issues. (Here is my NEW website with
mercury detox information and resources:
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
--I think the use of SILVER for healing should
be considered
carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC. I am
aware
that it can be effective against pathogens. (Mercury is
also a good preservative, but I do NOT think it should be
used for this purpose!) I can possibly dig up more info
on this if anyone is interested...
--I have also used bentonite clay off and on for some time.
-- and maybe other things of interest with others on this lis




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Re: CSJust a snip from another list(.H2O2 list)

[sol]

Actually, it is ozone that is toxic, silver is not. 
paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: Grant 
  --I've been using H202 for maybe 3 to 4 years.  But I only
  take baths every once in a while.  I guess I used to take
  baths more.
  --I recently got a medical ozone machine, and an oxygen
  concentrator to go with it.  I've been considering this for a
  couple of years at least!
  http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
  --I think the use of SILVER for healing should be considered
  carefully in light of the fact silver can be TOXIC.  I am aware