>Maybe, I just get a kick out of some of the silly names (to my mind)
>that people think up, particularly in the 'new age' arena.

It is just like kids to NOT do their homework. Silly--eh? Well, did you
ever look up the defintition of "Consciousness"(or "Quantum" or contemplate
what the implications for "Interface" implies)?---actually, if you
haven't--now that I am coming back to this ridiculous e-mail I wrote with
you in mind---you probably, faster than anyone, would "do your
homework"--forgive me.

CONSCIOUSNESS:

        n. 1. The knowledge of sensations and mental operations, or of what
passes, in one's own mind; the state of being conscious(nothing silly so
far).
           2. Feeling or internal sense or knowledge of guilt or
innocense;as, man(let me stress MAN) may betray his consciousness of guilt
by his countenance.
           3. Certain knowledge from observation or experience; as, the
consciousness of external objects.
           Syn.--Feeling, attention, sensation.
                                                --WEBSTER'S New Twentieth
Century DICTIONARY of the ENGLISH LANGUAGE---Unabridged(1951--wow, long
before the "new age")

Perhaps we should take a look at The American Heritage STEADMAN'S MEDICAL
DICTIONARY(for we want to stay on the medical side of things here, right?).

        n. 1. The state or condition of being conscious.
           2. A sense of one's personal or collective identity, especially
the complex of attitudes, beliefs, and sensitivities held by or considered
characteristic of an individual or a group.
           3. In psychoanalysis, the conscious.

Do I agree with the above? Not exactly. It is a fine definition for the
"conscious mind", but not consciousness.

(a great example where health and new age intermingles)Dr. Caroline
Myss(ANATOMY OF THE SPIRIT) writes:

        >Consciousness is the ability to release the old and embrace the
new with awareness that all things end at the appropriate time and that all
things begin at the appropriate time(ooo, feel that left brain fighting
with the right). This truth is difficult to learn to live with because
human beings seek stability---the absence of change.
>Given the power of unified beliefs--right or wrong--it is difficult to be
>at variance with one's tribe. We are taught to make choices that meet with
>tribal approval.
>..many are stuck between two worlds: the old world that they need to
>release and the new world that they are afraid to enter. We are attracted
>to becoming more "conscious", but at the same time we find it frightening
>because it means we must take personal responsibility for ourselves---and
>for our health(Dr. Nelson is SO big on this--as many others are becoming
>too), career, attitudes, and thoughts. Once we accept personal
>responsibility for even one area of our lives, we can never again use
>"tribal reasoning" to excuse our behavior.

Nothing can be experienced by us except in accordance with our own state of
consciousness (Paul Twithchell). Ever notice that if you have a problem(for
ex:  with a boss or a authority figure) that that problem keeps resurfing
itself no matter how many jobs we quit to only start up at another with the
same type of boss(in our minds) with the same problem--it is only a
different face wearing the same problem. Until we change our
consciousness(which is gaining the lesson to be learned), we will repeat
and repeat that same lesson. Likewise, when we have moved beyond that
particular one, we are then all set for the next. It is like moving into a
bigger room---with bigger problems--but at least the old ones are passe'.
The world around us(as we see it) reflects ourselves.


 I'm looking right now at a color print of Noah Webster and for the life of
me I don't know why "hoitish" comes to mind. So why not look it up(yeh,
yeh, once a teacher always a teacher)? Anyway, hoit means to leap, to
caper(what? what does caper mean?---such a silly man was Webster, right?).
Now, I've got to look up caper. Ah, caper means "a leap;a skip or jump; as
in dancing or mirth"(what's mirth--who cares--right?), "or in the frolic of
a goat or lamb".(could that be a sheep?--bahhhh, bahhhh). "To leap into the
heart of truth"---nah


What is she talking about, pray tell(is that correct?). I am talking about
consciousness. It is time to stop prancing around the truth(okay--my truth,
anyway). Consciousness is everything(when you get smaller than quantic
levels). It only takes a leap(no, not of faith) of one's attention to have
a sudden change of consciousness. Now I didn't want to go into this, but
here I go anyway(you did it again Ivan--I am spurred on).

The laws of thermodynamics(which is the law of death--dead people are
people who have succumbed to the temperature of the room--they have become
thermodynamic--it is a Newtonian law and states: 1. cannot be created or
destroyed--(actually that sounds like consciousness, oh well)--and 2. heat
will pass from a warm body to a cold, BUT WE WORK IN A QUANTIC WAY).

Anyway, 10  -10(ten to the ten---darn no key on my keyboard to write it
properly) is the size of thermodynamics. Heizemburg's equation---10
-25(ten to the twenty-fifth) is quantum(now that was the other "silly term"
used--right?). A synaptic is quantic, it is at 10 to the 23rd--or is it the
28th--who's counting?(you know--synaptic cleft in the brain--all part of
that other "silly" word: consciousness) In quantum terms we do not know--it
is based upon probabilities---we have uncertainty. The body is
quantic(remember?) and when you have a quantic event the mind of the
experimentor can interface with the outcome. Why? We are all connected in
"subspace" through "consciousness". Hey, don't look at me, I didn't make
this up. Glad I'm not the first to say it either, for those guys get put to
death--you know--"shoot the messenger"---or put him into thermdynamics!
Where are all these "silly" scientists going with this? Well, as I said
before they are going to the point where they realize that smaller than 10
-28th is CONSCIOUSNESS. So glad my mission isn't to prove this. But if it
were I'd enjoy it.

"Radionics"--what is it?---a darn silly thing(okay, I'll let up on that).
It is the ability of one person's mind to affect another--it influences the
consciousness. Does this sound like nonsense? Remember Dr. Sperry(a
surgeon)? He pioneered split brain theory. When he completed the
severing(of the corpus collosum---okay, I know a tiny bit of a quantic
amount about the brain), the grand mal seizures stopped, but now he had 2
people types. Anyway, Sperry said that everything he was taught in school
about the brain was false(sure glad I didn't waste my time taking anymore
of those classes). We are in a "new age"--a new age of knowledge--of
truth(I hope). But at what point in history could one argue it was not a
new age to them? It is all relative(I think).

Thank goodness I have not succumbed to the temperature of the room. Perhaps
I'll get to see where this is all leading to---you know this silly
consciousness and quantic theory stuff. Might take a few hundred years.

I'd get into the aspect of the next term: "Interface", for that part is
truly fascinating. Hmmm, the ability to interface---"to go where no man has
gone before". Just kidding. We are forever interfacing, for if we weren't
we'd truly be thermodynamic. The Quantum Xrroid Consciousness Interface.
The ability of the device to interface with the patient. Not a new concept
as I had to get an EEG after the accident. That device, too, interfaced
with me--reading out data through electrodes hooked to my head. It reminded
me of the QXCI and its electrodes.

(big hint:)Did I tell you about the submarine that the govt. invented? They
too knew(of course) about adding consciousness to a machine. Guess what? It
didn't work. Why? Because sometimes when they asked it to do
something--such as shoot this missile, and the sub pretty much responded,
"nah, not today".(well, not in those exact terms---please do not make me
have to prove this statement too).

What was the name of that movie where the computer had a mind of its
own--the name of the movie was the computer's name?(Hal, I think) Truth is
stranger than fiction. But what is fiction? Ever notice that which people
once thought was fiction later became truth? Here's an old new age truth:
there is not one thought that we can have--no original thought for
everything we can imagine already exists somewhere else--we are just
manifesting it here---ooooooo---leaves out the ego--for we are not the
original thinkers we thought we were!

It's funny, because in my opinion the new age movement seems to be a
symptom of the expansion of the human state of consciousness(some people
might say it is really just old stuff coming back around again---it is all
in the "cycles"). Just an observation(though I certainly don't agree with
alot that is coming out--but hey, I will say it--there seems to be a whole
lot of disinformation being fed--even to the new agers--- bahhh, bahhh).
Bottom line: if it is silly to you then that is all that counts. Who am I
or anyone else to change your state of consciousness on anything. Though I
tried(due in part to my ignorance).

Indeed, the scientific method should not be abandoned--just wanted you to
know what I thought in relation to such. I do not believe in the power of
pendulums nor doing muscle testing(on oneself) to figure out what someone
else needs. Who convinced me---partly my own personal experience--didn't
take long to figure out how the mind affects the outcome as in playing
around with a pendulum on e day. Dr. Nelson taught me a year ago through a
movie(at first)(can't remember the name) where they used the "scientific
method and DISPROVED 1000's of practitioners called---Assisted
writers(?)--I think? This is where the practitioners, after $10,000.00 put
into the training in order to obtain the license, worked with autistic
children. They would do so by holding onto the child' arm, lead that
child's pointing finger to the letter on the key board. Parents were having
their children ripped from them, and even some parents thrown into jail as
a result of what the children were supposedly writing(such as: my father
makes love to me every night in my as...."). Study after study--double
blind was performed and it was proven that there was NO validity in this
method. In the experiment they would show the assisted writer a picture,
then they would show a differnet picture to the child(though the A.W.
believed the child was being show the same photo. Every single time the
child, through the assisted writer, wrote the name of the picture that the
assisted writer saw, NOT the picture that the child was shown. There was
more to this study, obviously. I am urked to no end on the use of pendulums
and kinesiology--from a distance to find TRUTH. Is that the "new age" stuff
you refer to?


The ability of a good teacher is to sense when he/she has lost or
thoroughly annoyed her students...I take my leave now.


Okay, one more thing, so I am not a good teacher(it is that "can't shut up"
problem):

(paraphrased, in part, from the ELEGANT UNIVERSE by Brian Greene)

        Progress in science proceeds in fits and starts. Some periods are
filled with great breakthroughs; at other times researchers experience dry
spells. Scientists put forward results, both theoretical and
experimental(that is why I believe I am  attracted to this list). The
results are debated by the community, sometimes they are discarded,
sometimes they are modified, and sometimes they provide inspirational
jumping-off points(as in a caper, a leap, a sort of dance) for new and more
accurate ways of understanding the physical universe. In other words,
science proceeds along a zig-zag path toward what we hope will be ultimate
truth--a path that began with humanity's earliest attempts to fathom the
cosmos and whose end we cannot predict. But the last two decades of
research by hundreds of dedicated physicists and mathematicians from
numerous countries(yes, Hungary included) have given us well-founded hope
that we are on the right and possibly final track. So let us not quickly
dismiss something because it sounds "silly" to us, but let it be the spring
board toward the posing and contemplation of new questions which seek out a
new corner on truth.


"Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad." Aldous Huxley

If it doesn't make you mad than it just might make you glad(what is that?:
"if you can get what you want you just might get what you need") Ah, but
what is truth, grasshopper?  As Mr. Glad says, "why get mad when you can
get glad?"

You really shouldn't encourage me, Rob(>Pamela, you are like a breath of
fresh air...please keep writing. Rob)

Well, that was fun even if I did lose my audience a few hundred paragraphs
ago. This feels like the old movies where the guy who gets shot is taking
forever to succumb to the temperature around him.



In Search of Truth Always,
Pam

..and Good Night to you all.


A disclaimer:  The thoughts and opinions stated above are not necessarily
the opinions or thoughts held by Dr. Nelson nor of other QXCI practitioners.


And please excuse me other list members for my digressions.

Next topic:  "The New CJD Transmission Theory" as posed by Dr. Len Horowitz
and Dr. Joseph Puleo(see, I am the fan of more than one doctor--actually, I
am just a fan of truth---though no one person has the edge on that).








--
The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.

To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: 
silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com  -or-  silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line.

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>