Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info (UNCLASSIFIED)
I think its a good idea to have everyone's DNA on a database then in future if someone commits a crime or a murder, then they can catch them. I would have no objections at all to this, but then, I don't commit crimes, or get up to anything I wouldn't want people to know about. I think this kind of database is there to protect the innocent. dee On 3 Jun 2010, at 21:13, bodhisattva wrote: I sent you via private email the instructions to have your DNA removed from the State of Michigan. I've been telling people as quick as I can to get their DNA pulled from State Records, and witnessed destruction. http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/suit-possible-over-baby-dna-sent-to-military-268714.html Suit possible over baby DNA sent to military lab for national database -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info (UNCLASSIFIED)
I will assume you were being facetious. If not, I'm not really sure what to say, and don't want to disturb your dream too much. I'm sure you have complete confidence in the Custodians of these things, that they will never, ever, abuse them, right? The potential of abuse is beyond what you can imagine, and that's with ignoring the metaphysical Structured Link principle that I assure you, they fully understand. SO lets scoop up the DNA of 99% of the people, so we can use to potentially to catch 1% of the criminals? This is to assume this works all that well, can't be abused, and cannot be 'forged'. Oh wait, we know they can forge DNA and DNA is already being abused, read very carefully Ms. I do nothing wrong!.. http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/crime/1688 / The scientists fabricated blood and saliva samples containing DNA from a person other than the donor of the blood and saliva. They also showed that if they had access to a DNA profile in a database, they could construct a sample of DNA to match that profile without obtaining any tissue from that person. / The reason you guys have the totalitarian state, ridiculous gun laws (that don't work apparently), and broken systems is exactly because of the logic you entail in your posts. The innocents have nothing to fear, it's only the criminals that would worry about their DNA, and freedoms, and spying, and electronic mind control, and all of that junk! Innocent people have nothing to fear! I can point to dozens of articles about cameras being used to abuse/harass/snoop on innocents.. But let's first point to the fallacy of gun laws.. http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns_europe/2010-06-04/540138270966.html /Witnesses Describe UK Mass Shooting/ But we know what can happen if you ban the guns.. They'll head for the knives, and have the same results... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7740548/Students-slashed-in-ninth-knife-attack-in-China-in-two-months.html /Students slashed in ninth knife attack in China in two months //http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97MF9I00 *Two FBI workers are accused of using surveillance equipment to spy on teenage girls as they undressed and tried on prom gowns at a charity event at a West Virginia mall. */ / http://boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html *School used student laptop webcams to spy on them at school and home* / Were those students Criminals? So again, who is watching the watchers? The question *I* want to ask is why are there FBI in a US shopping mall, operating cameras? Not so much that they are perverts spying on little girls. (although that's obviously a problem too) I guess these girls were Criminals, since if they were innocent, they'd have nothing to fear - right? Who is watching the watchers? Any idiot that tries to give me an implanted trash bin is going to also catch me on camera with a chisel and hammer breaking the chips out of it. I'll fight for every inch of my freedom and privacy, and will certainly never, ever, make it easy for anyone that wants to take it, or encroach on it. It's the definition of a true American in my opinion. Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I think its a good idea to have everyone's DNA on a database then in future if someone commits a crime or a murder, then they can catch them. I would have no objections at all to this, but then, I don't commit crimes, or get up to anything I wouldn't want people to know about. I think this kind of database is there to protect the innocent. dee On 3 Jun 2010, at 21:13, bodhisattva wrote: I sent you via private email the instructions to have your DNA removed from the State of Michigan. I've been telling people as quick as I can to get their DNA pulled from State Records, and witnessed destruction. http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/suit-possible-over-baby-dna-sent-to-military-268714.html Suit possible over baby DNA sent to military lab for national database
Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info (UNCLASSIFIED)
And that becomes another thread to take to the OT list, please!?? Thank you! Mike D. da list owner guy... Bodhi writes: I will assume you were being facetious. If not, I'm not really sure what to say, and don't want to disturb your dream too much. Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I think its a good idea to have everyone's DNA on a database then in future if someone commits a crime or a murder, then they can catch them. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info (UNCLASSIFIED)
Collecting everyone's DNA is definitely not a good idea any more than mass vaccination and mass medication, mass fluoridation, mass verichipping or mass anything is a good idea. Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ I think its a good idea to have everyone's DNA on a database then in future if someone commits a crime or a murder, then they can catch them. I would have no objections at all to this, but then, I don't commit crimes, or get up to anything I wouldn't want people to know about. I think this kind of database is there to protect the innocent. dee On 3 Jun 2010, at 21:13, bodhisattva wrote: I sent you via private email the instructions to have your DNA removed from the State of Michigan. I've been telling people as quick as I can to get their DNA pulled from State Records, and witnessed destruction. http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/suit-possible-over-baby-dna-sent-to-military-268714.html Suit possible over baby DNA sent to military lab for national database -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release Date: 09/26/09 05:51:00
Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info (UNCLASSIFIED)
As I said this is not my experience, and as far as gun laws go, are you saying that the US has got it right then? Not as far as I can see. dee On 4 Jun 2010, at 15:11, bodhisattva wrote: I will assume you were being facetious. If not, I'm not really sure what to say, and don't want to disturb your dream too much. I'm sure you have complete confidence in the Custodians of these things, that they will never, ever, abuse them, right? The potential of abuse is beyond what you can imagine, and that's with ignoring the metaphysical Structured Link principle that I assure you, they fully understand. SO lets scoop up the DNA of 99% of the people, so we can use to potentially to catch 1% of the criminals? This is to assume this works all that well, can't be abused, and cannot be 'forged'. Oh wait, we know they can forge DNA and DNA is already being abused, read very carefully Ms. I do nothing wrong!.. http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/crime/1688 “The scientists fabricated blood and saliva samples containing DNA from a person other than the donor of the blood and saliva. They also showed that if they had access to a DNA profile in a database, they could construct a sample of DNA to match that profile without obtaining any tissue from that person.” The reason you guys have the totalitarian state, ridiculous gun laws (that don't work apparently), and broken systems is exactly because of the logic you entail in your posts. The innocents have nothing to fear, it's only the criminals that would worry about their DNA, and freedoms, and spying, and electronic mind control, and all of that junk! Innocent people have nothing to fear! I can point to dozens of articles about cameras being used to abuse/harass/snoop on innocents.. But let's first point to the fallacy of gun laws.. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info (UNCLASSIFIED)
Unless you want to take this topic to the OT list, it will have to be dropped. ... as far as gun laws go, are you saying that the US has got it right then? Not as far as I can see. dee You need a full understanding of the history, law, and ethics of the issue before you can begin to have a legitimate basis for judgment. It's not simple, I'm afraid. So, let's keep this list on track and off politics, please. Thank you, Mike D. list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE How would you find out if you are in States Data base in Say Michigan. Bob -Original Message- From: bodhisattva [mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info Thank's another website to send an attorney letter too. Even though the information on this household is totally incorrect, in virtually every category. Even more cool, I'm not even listed, but someone else I don't even know is. So their information appears to be aggregated over multiple sources, but since I usually use fake names, they probably couldn't correlate anything correctly. I don't use fake names to hide, I use them to determine who uses what information. For example if you have something sent to your home as Joe Blow, then when you start getting mail to Joe Blow, you know who sold you out. But since I never, ever, fill out a survey, customer response ticket, warranty card, or join ANY clubs or shopping clubs, their information appears to be horribly bad guessing. Still, off goes the cease and desist letter. I had myself, and my entire family DNA cards pulled from the state labs, and under witness, destroyed. States covertly have taken DNA samples since around 1964 without telling anyone. But better get yours back before they institute a huge national database of it. DNA provides a structured link to yourself, you don't want that floating around. Most states will comply with an Order to destroy, but make sure you commission a witness to witness that this actually takes place, and legally sign off on it. Beth Harrison wrote: Thought some of you might be interested in this: Here is the latest site that ties personal information from multiple sources together and then provides it to anyone who wants it : http://www.spokeo.com/ You would be amazed how easily information can be found about your household. In most cases the information provided to the public it is reasonably accurate. Who knows what would be given to those that pay the fee to see detailed information. The following article provides some more information about this site and how to get removed from its listings ( which I recommend you do ). http://www.kbzk.com/news/new-website-knows-more-about-you-than-you-might-lik e/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info (UNCLASSIFIED)
I sent you via private email the instructions to have your DNA removed from the State of Michigan. I've been telling people as quick as I can to get their DNA pulled from State Records, and witnessed destruction. http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/suit-possible-over-baby-dna-sent-to-military-268714.html Suit possible over baby DNA sent to military lab for national database Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE How would you find out if you are in States Data base in Say Michigan. Bob -Original Message- From: bodhisattva [mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT: new website that aggregates and distributes personal info Thank's another website to send an attorney letter too. Even though the information on this household is totally incorrect, in virtually every category. Even more cool, I'm not even listed, but someone else I don't even know is. So their information appears to be aggregated over multiple sources, but since I usually use fake names, they probably couldn't correlate anything correctly. I don't use fake names to hide, I use them to determine who uses what information. For example if you have something sent to your home as Joe Blow, then when you start getting mail to Joe Blow, you know who sold you out. But since I never, ever, fill out a survey, customer response ticket, warranty card, or join ANY clubs or shopping clubs, their information appears to be horribly bad guessing. Still, off goes the cease and desist letter. I had myself, and my entire family DNA cards pulled from the state labs, and under witness, destroyed. States covertly have taken DNA samples since around 1964 without telling anyone. But better get yours back before they institute a huge national database of it. DNA provides a structured link to yourself, you don't want that floating around. Most states will comply with an Order to destroy, but make sure you commission a witness to witness that this actually takes place, and legally sign off on it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
