Re: CSOptimizing voltage on simple homemade generator

2000-04-03 Thread Becky Phelps
D,

I also use the 3 nine volt batteriesI was wondering what ppm you are making 
your collodial silver???   I have read alot on the internet, and having been 
making mine 3-5 ppmAlso, do you heat the water  Dr. Beck has a film out 
where he shows a travel cs maker with one 9volt batteryso we did make a set 
this way, but it seemed to take too much time...so back to the 3 nine 
voltdo not know anything about the 30 volt...but I would think that the 
wires would get blacker quickerhope to hear back from you...Becky in 
Kentucky
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From: Toscano tosca...@ix.netcom.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 7:41 PM
Subject: CSOptimizing voltage on simple homemade generator


First of all I'd like to tip my hat as someone who rarely posts but loves 
to read all the messages here. Thanks to all for insightful and intelligent 
info, it is much appreciated even by those of us who don't frequently make 
ourselves known.

I have been making CS for a few years now using a simple homemade apparatus 
I learned about here way back when I started. It is three 9V alkaline batteries 
wired in series and terminating in a positive and negative alligator clip on 
each end. However I remember reading somewhere that the ideal voltage to use 
for such a simple setup would be 30V (mine being 27V with three 9V 
batteries)...first of all is this correct? Anyhow, I went to Rat Shack and got 
a two-AAA battery holder and wired it in series to make a total of 30V. I have 
made three batches of CS in this manner and find the reaction starts sooner 
than it did with 27V but other than that nothing seems different. Is it worth 
my while to keep using the 30V setup? If not, what is the ideal voltage I could 
utilize here? 

Thanks!

D. Toscano


Re: CSOptimizing voltage on simple homemade generator

2000-04-03 Thread Trem Williams
Hello D,

Any voltage is OK.  What really makes the difference is current flow.  Higher 
voltages start the process quicker.  Lower voltage takes longer to get some 
silver into the water so the current can flow.  What you need to do is get an 
inexpensive milliameter from the Shack and insert it in series with your 
batteries.  Whenever the current starts to rise because of more silver in the 
water, just remove a 9 volt battery from the circuit to keep the current within 
limits.  Admittedly that is a simplistic fix.  You can get as sophisticated as 
you like.  You can insert a variable potentiometer in series with one electrode 
or you can get really technical and insert a current regulator to hold it 
constant.  As an example, we start our voltage at 40 volts and reduce it 
automatically to maintain 1 milliampere.  The voltage may end up as low as 5 or 
6 volts at the end of the process, depending on the PPM you want.

Depends on how much effort you want to put into it.

Trem
 www.silvergen.com
Constant Current Colloid Generators
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 8:35 PM
  Subject: CSOptimizing voltage on simple homemade generator


  First of all I'd like to tip my hat as someone who rarely posts but loves to 
read all the messages here. Thanks to all for insightful and intelligent info, 
it is much appreciated even by those of us who don't frequently make ourselves 
known.

  I have been making CS for a few years now using a simple homemade apparatus I 
learned about here way back when I started. It is three 9V alkaline batteries 
wired in series and terminating in a positive and negative alligator clip on 
each end. However I remember reading somewhere that the ideal voltage to use 
for such a simple setup would be 30V (mine being 27V with three 9V 
batteries)...first of all is this correct? Anyhow, I went to Rat Shack and got 
a two-AAA battery holder and wired it in series to make a total of 30V. I have 
made three batches of CS in this manner and find the reaction starts sooner 
than it did with 27V but other than that nothing seems different. Is it worth 
my while to keep using the 30V setup? If not, what is the ideal voltage I could 
utilize here? 

  Thanks!

  D. Toscano


CSOptimizing voltage on simple homemade generator

2000-04-03 Thread Toscano
First of all I'd like to tip my hat as someone who rarely posts but loves to 
read all the messages here. Thanks to all for insightful and intelligent info, 
it is much appreciated even by those of us who don't frequently make ourselves 
known.

I have been making CS for a few years now using a simple homemade apparatus I 
learned about here way back when I started. It is three 9V alkaline batteries 
wired in series and terminating in a positive and negative alligator clip on 
each end. However I remember reading somewhere that the ideal voltage to use 
for such a simple setup would be 30V (mine being 27V with three 9V 
batteries)...first of all is this correct? Anyhow, I went to Rat Shack and got 
a two-AAA battery holder and wired it in series to make a total of 30V. I have 
made three batches of CS in this manner and find the reaction starts sooner 
than it did with 27V but other than that nothing seems different. Is it worth 
my while to keep using the 30V setup? If not, what is the ideal voltage I could 
utilize here? 

Thanks!

D. Toscano