Fred wrote:

> Jeff said: Why is one electrode suspended above the electrolyte for the HVAC 
> process?
>
> Fred - So you can impress your friends with the mysticism? I don't know, but 
> it will
> act as a voltage dropping device (so why did we use so high a voltage?)! Try 
> calculating
> the voltage drop on the water - if you have 10KV and your solution was 30K 
> ohm you would
> be passing 1/3 amp! Now the transformer is current limiting to maybe 33 mills 
> (zero volts out),
> so maybe 1/10 of the 10KV is impressed on the water - so the HV is needed 
> mostly for the
> electrostatic energy to help stir things up (blast the sludge) and build a 
> "neato mystical" cone.
>

Jeff expirimented:

Well, here's what I just did. I set up my 20KV AC supply with one electrode
suspended above the water and one in the water (electrodes 2 troy oz each).
It produced the usual cone and I measured the transformer secondary current.
It started at 17ma. I ran about 45 minutes,  until the cone dropped off, and at
no time did the current exceed 20ma.

The supply is rated for20kv @23ma. I didn't attempt to measure the electrode 
voltage, however I
easily pulled a 1.5" arc in parallel with the electrolyte. This proved to me
that the voltage is not dropping, nor the load excessive.

I also tried immersion of both electrodes at the start. This increased the 
current
by 2ma. The only purpose I can see for the cone is that it gives an indication 
that
could be used for consistency.

I conclude that the water is not purely resistive to 60Hz AC. There must be a 
reactive
component that is limiting the current. I also believe that this component is 
inductive
and that the cone itself is due to an inductive / magnetic property of the 
water as AC
current is passed.

This would explain why high voltage is required when using AC. To flow 20ma
using DC and distilled water, I estimate my voltage would be in the area of
2000 volts to start.

However, flowing 20ma for 45 minutes would produce a very dark product, as I
recall. The AC product is clear.

I still feel that the AC process and the DC process are making 2 different 
products.
Which is better?...I don't know. Their effect on my Lyme seems different too. 
The
yellow LVDC stuff has helped a lot. The herx from the HVAC is strong with lots
of cardiac effects...makes me feel bad...which might be good?

The batch I made with 20kv AC is now brewing with 12 volts DC applied
(same electrolyte). It started at about 0.6ma.  It's been running for about 2 
hours
and is up to 1.5ma. I'll probably stop at 2ma. Tomorrow I'll give it the Lyme
herx test.

Please, comments and criticism are welcome, as I know not what I do!

Jeff




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