Re: CSVoltage and Current Factor, Is there one

2009-04-15 Thread Ode Coyote


 That's one that makes the average automotive troubleshooter pull his 
hair out.


 Corrosion can do really weird things with  heat changing the resistance 
of the corrosion layer.
 I've even had headlights turn themselves into blinkers with a heating and 
cooling cycle in a corroded switch.


Ode



Finally, I must say,   The Resistive Connection is the most dangerous
one of all.

It will burn your house down and kill you.

Anyone want to add to the confusion or Clear it all up ?

Either way,  be my guest.   I will be glad to know.

Wayne

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Re: CSVoltage and Current Factor, Is there one

2009-04-15 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Morning Ode,

At 05:44 AM 4/15/2009, you wrote:
 I've even had headlights turn themselves into blinkers with a 
heating and cooling cycle in a corroded switch.


 Thanks for jogging my memory.

 I had one car that did that.  Drove me Crazy.

 I had totally forgotten about it.  Terrible, it was.

Wayne
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Re: CSVoltage and Current Factor, Is there one

2009-04-15 Thread Dan Nave
Afternoon Wayne,

Isn't there a commandment about dropping my name in vain?...

So what's the problem?  Amount of released silver, ion production, is
related to current.
Voltage is only relevant in that it has to be high enough to support
the particular current.

(Too little voltage?  Move the electrodes closer together...  Voltage
does not change, but current will increase along with an increase of
relased silver ions.)

Dan

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote:
 Evening Ode and Everyone,

 At 11:44 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:

  Ion production rates are current related, not voltage related.

 Several years back,  I posted a message relative to the
 Current and Voltage Factor that has specific effect on
 ion production.

 No one said one word,   no not one.
 No one agreed, no one disagreed, no one even asked a single question.

 What did this tell us,
 No one knows, no one cares, no one gives a hoot,
 or...
 No one knew enough to ask on question.

 Then,  A year or two later, I posted the same statement again.
 I think you was the very one, that agreed with me,
 on maybe Dan Nave.

 The statement again, 
  Ion production rates are current related, not voltage related.

 Current cannot be the same, ...
          Without out BEING VOLTAGE RELATED
                What is Related, and What is not ?

 It remains hard for me to believe that
 3 ma does the same work at  3 VDC, 6 VDC,  12 VDC or a higher voltage.

 We were not talking about constant current devices, or regulated
 circuits,   They were not so common at that time.

 Of course I understand regulated circuits, voltage drops, and
 resistive connections.

 One power supply that I built had  5 V  Regulated,  12 V Regulated
 and a 16 volt battery charger, all on the same neat little board.

 I was building solid State Voltage regulators for Cars, back into the
 early 60's.   Also Transistor Ignition systems that were fantastic.
 One would fire a 5/8 inch gap, in a test distributor turning 7000 rpm.
 That would get your attention, .. yes it would.

 Yes, there are many voltage drops in any CS Gen circuit and the process.
 Even the one across the solution changes as the batch progresses,
 Regulated or NOT regulated.  ( But related to something )

 If one understand the situation at hand, they will know where these
 voltage drops exist.  If they do not understand, they would not understand
 if I listed them.   No need to add confusion, to an already confusing
 situation,

 Finally, I must say,   The Resistive Connection is the most dangerous
 one of all.

 It will burn your house down and kill you.

 Anyone want to add to the confusion or Clear it all up ?

 Either way,  be my guest.   I will be glad to know.

 Wayne

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CSVoltage and Current Factor, Is there one

2009-04-14 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Ode and Everyone,

 At 11:44 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:

 Ion production rates are current related, not voltage related.


Several years back,  I posted a message relative to the
Current and Voltage Factor that has specific effect on
ion production.

No one said one word,   no not one.
No one agreed, no one disagreed, no one even asked a single question.

What did this tell us,
No one knows, no one cares, no one gives a hoot,
or...
No one knew enough to ask on question.

Then,  A year or two later, I posted the same statement again.
I think you was the very one, that agreed with me,
on maybe Dan Nave.

The statement again, 
  Ion production rates are current related, not voltage related.

Current cannot be the same, ...
  Without out BEING VOLTAGE RELATED
What is Related, and What is not ?

It remains hard for me to believe that
3 ma does the same work at  3 VDC, 6 VDC,  12 VDC or a higher voltage.

We were not talking about constant current devices, or regulated
circuits,   They were not so common at that time.

Of course I understand regulated circuits, voltage drops, and
resistive connections.

One power supply that I built had  5 V  Regulated,  12 V Regulated
and a 16 volt battery charger, all on the same neat little board.

I was building solid State Voltage regulators for Cars, back into the
early 60's.   Also Transistor Ignition systems that were fantastic.
One would fire a 5/8 inch gap, in a test distributor turning 7000 rpm.
That would get your attention, .. yes it would.

Yes, there are many voltage drops in any CS Gen circuit and the process.
Even the one across the solution changes as the batch progresses,
Regulated or NOT regulated.  ( But related to something )

If one understand the situation at hand, they will know where these
voltage drops exist.  If they do not understand, they would not understand
if I listed them.   No need to add confusion, to an already confusing
situation,

Finally, I must say,   The Resistive Connection is the most dangerous
one of all.

It will burn your house down and kill you.

Anyone want to add to the confusion or Clear it all up ?

Either way,  be my guest.   I will be glad to know.

Wayne

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