RE: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Holmes
My question: does Xylitol feed some pathogens has stimulated a great deal of
traffic on the stuff, but no one has addressed the issue: Does it feed some
pathogens?

Jim 

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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

Yes it is.

Marshall

sol wrote:

 It is a sugar alcohol, isn't it?

 sol

 Nancy DeLise wrote:

  It is NOT sugar from sugar cane that is in Xylitol.  It is a natural
  sweetener.
  Nancy

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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-04 Thread Rowena
My question: does Xylitol feed some pathogens has stimulated a great deal of
traffic on the stuff, but no one has addressed the issue: Does it feed some
pathogens?
Jim


As I understand it Jim, it makes the mucous membranes too slippery for the 
bacteria etc. to cling on, and they get washed away.  Also, as I understand 
it, its structure is different to sugar, and so would not feed things the 
same way that sugar might.

Does anyone know of any in vitro experiments with xylitol and pathogenic 
organisms?

Rowena 


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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-04 Thread Rowena
While other sugars tend to promote the growth of bacteria, xylitol has been 
proven to inhibit the growth of bacteria. In particular it has been shown to 
be effective in preventing dental cavities by inhibiting Strep mutans, the 
main bacteria responsible for cavities.

Since the major cause of ear infections is Strep pneumo, a species of 
bacteria closely related to Strep mutans, perhaps xylitol would prove 
effective in preventing ear infections. Researchers from Finland tested this 
hypothesis and published the results of their investigation in the British 
Medical Journal (November 1996).

Alan Greene, M.D., F.A.A.P.
http://www.xylitol.org/

Streptococcus Mutans

The effect of sugar substitutes on changes in S. mutans levels also have 
been investigated. All studies have consistently demonstrated that xylitol 
use did significantly reduce the levels of S. mutans.

Catherine Hayes, D.M.D., D.M.Sc.

Harvard School of Dental Medicine

. Hildebrandt GH, Sparks BS. Maintaining Mutans Streptococci suppression 
with xylitol chewing gum. J Am Dent Assoc 2000;131:909-16.

21. Isokangas P, Tenovuo J, Soderling E, Mannisto H, Makinen KK. Dental 
caries and mutans streptococci in the proximal areas of molars affected by 
the habitual use of xylitol chewing gum. Caries Res 1991;25:444-8.

22. Makinen KK, Soderling E, Isokangas P, Tenovuo J, Tiekso J. Oral 
biochemical status and depression of streptococcus mutans in children during 
24 to 36 month use of xylitol chewing gum. Caries Res 1998;23:261-7.

One promising approach is the possible use of xylitol as a dietary agent to 
prevent midear infections in young children. This effect is based on the 
growth inhibition by xylitol of alpha-hemolytic streptococci, including 
Streptococcus pneumoniae. As one consequence of this, the usage of xylitol 
chewing gum by young day-care center children was shown to reduce the 
occurrence of acute otitis media and antimicrobial treatment received during 
the gum-using period (7). It is possible that the virulent bacterial flora 
present in the entire aero-digestive tract of man, can be favourably 
affected by systematic xylitol use. Xylitol, by virtue of its pentitol 
nature, modifies the outer environment of selected pathogenic organisms and 
the outer structures of the organisms themselves. Such changes may result in 
a lowered ability of the organisms to adhere onto epithelial cell surfaces 
and other host tissue surfaces, reducing the risk of infection. It is clear, 
however, that the above otitis media-related observations must be verified 
by independent studies before further conclusions can be made.

No study has shown that the oral bacteria become adapted to utilize xylitol 
for effective acid and polysaccharide production Xylitol, being a 
natural dietary carbohydrate, must be used at chemical levels corresponding 
to those of regular table sugar. Such concentrations are more likely to 
display specific effects on oral microorganisms and on oral tissues.
 Professor Kauko K. Mäkinen
Institute of Dentistry, University of Turku, Finland

http://www.xylitol.org/



Like maltitol, xylitol is another one of the sugar alcohols; but where 
maltitol is essentially inert, xylitol produces some very interesting 
effects as it passes through the body. Where regular sugar promotes the 
formation of dental plaque and the bacteria that lead to tooth decay and gum 
disease, xylitol has exactly the opposite effect. It actively combats these 
bacteria, due to its powerful antimicrobial properties, making it an ideal 
substance to chew on after a meal.

Once it gets into the digestive tract, it does not feed pathogenic yeasts 
the way that sucrose does, so it does not encourage candida overgrowth. Nor 
does it have the immune suppressing effect of regular sugar. Furthermore, 
when it reaches the large intestine, it is converted into short-chain fatty 
acids, which then nourish the mucosal cells that line the colon, cells which 
play a key role in protecting against colon cancer. If that was not enough, 
preliminary research suggests that xylitol may actually improve bone density 
and help ward off osteoporosis (though it would need to be ingested in a 
greater quantity than you are likely to get through the mints alone). 
http://www.bloodph.com/newsletters/Newsletter%20%20June%202003.htm



To enhance the function of this fluid, she postulated that a substance that 
lowered the salt concentration in the airway without simultaneously being 
absorbed from the upper airway would help prevent the initial tracheal 
colonization with bacteria seen early during mechanical ventilation. Xylitol 
has such properties and has been used successfully in lozenges to help 
prevent recurrent otitis media in children. The primary emphasis of her 
current research is to lay the groundwork for a large trial in this area. In 
animal models, it has been shown that nebulized xylitol substantial prevents 
airway colonization in a model of Pseudomonas 

RE: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-04 Thread ransley
Once again, I can only state what happens in my little humid corner of the
world. Xylitol mixed into CS, made from a Silverpuppy, all decanted into a
plastic nasal spray bottle, will grow an obvious and healthy black mold
culture in two weeks. It actually shows a little after a week. In order for
it to be that corrupted I assume the mixture to be contaminated at 3 days.
After three days it smells funny up my nose. 

I still use it if I need to but discard bottle and all on the third day.
It's still the best thing I've ever seen for washing out the sinuses.

1/4 teaspoon xylitol to 2 ounces CS.

I have some of Frank Key's product that I want to try and see how it fares
like this. I've got to get busy and do that experiment. I guess I may as
well get off my duff right now and do it.

Daddybob


-Original Message-
From: Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 3:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

My question: does Xylitol feed some pathogens has stimulated a great deal of
traffic on the stuff, but no one has addressed the issue: Does it feed some
pathogens?
Jim


As I understand it Jim, it makes the mucous membranes too slippery for the
bacteria etc. to cling on, and they get washed away.  Also, as I understand
it, its structure is different to sugar, and so would not feed things the
same way that sugar might.

Does anyone know of any in vitro experiments with xylitol and pathogenic
organisms?

Rowena 




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RE: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Holmes
Some molds and fungi are resistant to CS.

Perhaps it is something that grows in vitro, but is not a pathogen to man
and will not occur in the body. 

Jim

-Original Message-
From: ransley [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:43 AM
To: 'Rowena'; The Silverlist
Subject: RE: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

Once again, I can only state what happens in my little humid corner of the
world. Xylitol mixed into CS, made from a Silverpuppy, all decanted into a
plastic nasal spray bottle, will grow an obvious and healthy black mold
culture in two weeks. It actually shows a little after a week. In order for
it to be that corrupted I assume the mixture to be contaminated at 3 days.
After three days it smells funny up my nose. 

I still use it if I need to but discard bottle and all on the third day.
It's still the best thing I've ever seen for washing out the sinuses.

1/4 teaspoon xylitol to 2 ounces CS.

I have some of Frank Key's product that I want to try and see how it fares
like this. I've got to get busy and do that experiment. I guess I may as
well get off my duff right now and do it.

Daddybob


-Original Message-
From: Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 3:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

My question: does Xylitol feed some pathogens has stimulated a great deal of
traffic on the stuff, but no one has addressed the issue: Does it feed some
pathogens?
Jim


As I understand it Jim, it makes the mucous membranes too slippery for the
bacteria etc. to cling on, and they get washed away.  Also, as I understand
it, its structure is different to sugar, and so would not feed things the
same way that sugar might.

Does anyone know of any in vitro experiments with xylitol and pathogenic
organisms?

Rowena 




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RE: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Holmes
Thank you Rowena.

I will make a note to do some searches.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

My question: does Xylitol feed some pathogens has stimulated a great deal of
traffic on the stuff, but no one has addressed the issue: Does it feed some
pathogens?
Jim


As I understand it Jim, it makes the mucous membranes too slippery for the 
bacteria etc. to cling on, and they get washed away.  Also, as I understand 
it, its structure is different to sugar, and so would not feed things the 
same way that sugar might.

Does anyone know of any in vitro experiments with xylitol and pathogenic 
organisms?

Rowena 


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RE: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Holmes
Very interesting.

Saved and filed.

Thank you,

Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

While other sugars tend to promote the growth of bacteria, xylitol has been 
proven to inhibit the growth of bacteria. In particular it has been shown to

be effective in preventing dental cavities by inhibiting Strep mutans, the 
main bacteria responsible for cavities.

Since the major cause of ear infections is Strep pneumo, a species of 
bacteria closely related to Strep mutans, perhaps xylitol would prove 
effective in preventing ear infections. Researchers from Finland tested this

hypothesis and published the results of their investigation in the British 
Medical Journal (November 1996).

Alan Greene, M.D., F.A.A.P.
http://www.xylitol.org/

Streptococcus Mutans

The effect of sugar substitutes on changes in S. mutans levels also have 
been investigated. All studies have consistently demonstrated that xylitol 
use did significantly reduce the levels of S. mutans.

Catherine Hayes, D.M.D., D.M.Sc.

Harvard School of Dental Medicine

. Hildebrandt GH, Sparks BS. Maintaining Mutans Streptococci suppression 
with xylitol chewing gum. J Am Dent Assoc 2000;131:909-16.

21. Isokangas P, Tenovuo J, Soderling E, Mannisto H, Makinen KK. Dental 
caries and mutans streptococci in the proximal areas of molars affected by 
the habitual use of xylitol chewing gum. Caries Res 1991;25:444-8.

22. Makinen KK, Soderling E, Isokangas P, Tenovuo J, Tiekso J. Oral 
biochemical status and depression of streptococcus mutans in children during

24 to 36 month use of xylitol chewing gum. Caries Res 1998;23:261-7.

One promising approach is the possible use of xylitol as a dietary agent to 
prevent midear infections in young children. This effect is based on the 
growth inhibition by xylitol of alpha-hemolytic streptococci, including 
Streptococcus pneumoniae. As one consequence of this, the usage of xylitol 
chewing gum by young day-care center children was shown to reduce the 
occurrence of acute otitis media and antimicrobial treatment received during

the gum-using period (7). It is possible that the virulent bacterial flora 
present in the entire aero-digestive tract of man, can be favourably 
affected by systematic xylitol use. Xylitol, by virtue of its pentitol 
nature, modifies the outer environment of selected pathogenic organisms and 
the outer structures of the organisms themselves. Such changes may result in

a lowered ability of the organisms to adhere onto epithelial cell surfaces 
and other host tissue surfaces, reducing the risk of infection. It is clear,

however, that the above otitis media-related observations must be verified 
by independent studies before further conclusions can be made.

No study has shown that the oral bacteria become adapted to utilize xylitol 
for effective acid and polysaccharide production Xylitol, being a 
natural dietary carbohydrate, must be used at chemical levels corresponding 
to those of regular table sugar. Such concentrations are more likely to 
display specific effects on oral microorganisms and on oral tissues.
 Professor Kauko K. Mäkinen
Institute of Dentistry, University of Turku, Finland

http://www.xylitol.org/



Like maltitol, xylitol is another one of the sugar alcohols; but where 
maltitol is essentially inert, xylitol produces some very interesting 
effects as it passes through the body. Where regular sugar promotes the 
formation of dental plaque and the bacteria that lead to tooth decay and gum

disease, xylitol has exactly the opposite effect. It actively combats these 
bacteria, due to its powerful antimicrobial properties, making it an ideal 
substance to chew on after a meal.

Once it gets into the digestive tract, it does not feed pathogenic yeasts 
the way that sucrose does, so it does not encourage candida overgrowth. Nor 
does it have the immune suppressing effect of regular sugar. Furthermore, 
when it reaches the large intestine, it is converted into short-chain fatty 
acids, which then nourish the mucosal cells that line the colon, cells which

play a key role in protecting against colon cancer. If that was not enough, 
preliminary research suggests that xylitol may actually improve bone density

and help ward off osteoporosis (though it would need to be ingested in a 
greater quantity than you are likely to get through the mints alone). 
http://www.bloodph.com/newsletters/Newsletter%20%20June%202003.htm



To enhance the function of this fluid, she postulated that a substance that 
lowered the salt concentration in the airway without simultaneously being 
absorbed from the upper airway would help prevent the initial tracheal 
colonization with bacteria seen early during mechanical ventilation. Xylitol

has such properties and has been used successfully in lozenges to help 
prevent recurrent

Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-03 Thread Nancy DeLise
www.xlear.com

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections


 Any good health food store should have it.



 panamp...@aol.com wrote:
  Where can one buy xylitol?  I tried GNC, Publix grocery, and
  Walgreens, but to no avail.  The druggist who is a friend gave me a
  fairly large bottle of a type of xylitol that looks
  like small chiclets to chew, but no powder form.
 
 
  
 
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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-03 Thread Grace1way
Try _http://www.xylitolnow.com/_ (http://www.xylitolnow.com/) .  You can  buy 
a 1.5 pound container for around $13.
 
Jill


Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-03 Thread Tel Tofflemire
We get at  http://www.emeraldforrest.com  we pay about
$3.15 per lb in bulk of 20lbs free shipping, in 4 X
5lb bags. We have used this co. for several years. I
think they are in colorado.
Tel Toff
Dewey AZ

--- grace1...@aol.com wrote:

 Try _http://www.xylitolnow.com/_
 (http://www.xylitolnow.com/) .  You can  buy 
 a 1.5 pound container for around $13.
  
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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-03 Thread sol
What the heck do you do with that much Xylitol? I have had a 1 lb jar 
for a couple years, and it will last me the rest of my life.

sol

Tel Tofflemire wrote:


We get at  http://www.emeraldforrest.com  we pay about
$3.15 per lb in bulk of 20lbs free shipping, in 4 X
5lb bags. We have used this co. for several years. I
think they are in colorado.
Tel Toff
Dewey AZ

 




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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
Yes it is.

Marshall

sol wrote:

 It is a sugar alcohol, isn't it?

 sol

 Nancy DeLise wrote:

  It is NOT sugar from sugar cane that is in Xylitol.  It is a natural
  sweetener.
  Nancy

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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-03 Thread Tel Tofflemire

I get free shipping, and supply my friends..We all
save that way, rather than each paying $6.00 s  H
..Duh !
Tel Toff
Dewey, AZ
--- sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 What the heck do you do with that much Xylitol? I
 have had a 1 lb jar 
 for a couple years, and it will last me the rest of
 my life.
 sol
 
 Tel Tofflemire wrote:
 
 We get at  http://www.emeraldforrest.com  we pay
 about
 $3.15 per lb in bulk of 20lbs free shipping, in 4 X
 5lb bags. We have used this co. for several years.
 I
 think they are in colorado.
 Tel Toff
 Dewey AZ
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-02 Thread Deborah Gerard
I also heard that gum made with Xylitol will help clear nasal problem for 
children...deb

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  Subject: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections
  

Every post I have read by one who has used a CS/MSM or DMSO/Xylitol 
solution nasally has reported good results. 
   
  I have considered that the sugar might feed some forms of bacteria or fungus.
   
  Does anyone have any experiences or research to offer?
   
  TIA.
   
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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-02 Thread sol

It is a sugar alcohol, isn't it?

sol

Nancy DeLise wrote:

It is NOT sugar from sugar cane that is in Xylitol.  It is a natural 
sweetener.

Nancy




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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-02 Thread PanAmPete
Where can one buy xylitol?  I tried GNC, Publix grocery, and
Walgreens, but to no avail.  The druggist who is a friend gave me a  fairly 
large bottle of a type of xylitol that looks
like small chiclets to chew, but no powder form.


Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-02 Thread Dan Nave

Any good health food store should have it.



panamp...@aol.com wrote:

Where can one buy xylitol?  I tried GNC, Publix grocery, and
Walgreens, but to no avail.  The druggist who is a friend gave me a 
fairly large bottle of a type of xylitol that looks

like small chiclets to chew, but no powder form.




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Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-02 Thread Deborah Gerard
Harold has a good site that I bought some from word of caution though some 
peopple it gives diarreah to so try to get a sample of it first before you buy 
large quantities...if you are going to use it orally...deb

panamp...@aol.com wrote:  Where can one buy xylitol?  I tried GNC, Publix 
grocery, and
  Walgreens, but to no avail.  The druggist who is a friend gave me a fairly 
large bottle of a type of xylitol that looks
  like small chiclets to chew, but no powder form.



Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-02 Thread V
Hi PanAmPete,

Yeah I jsut bought a 3 pound bag of it at my healthfood store and it was only 
11 bucks the price is coming down as it gets more popular




Take care,
 V


 Where can one buy xylitol?  I tried GNC, Publix grocery, and
 Walgreens, but to no avail.  The druggist who is a friend gave me a  fairly
 large bottle of a type of xylitol that looks
 like small chiclets to chew, but no powder form.


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RE: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-02 Thread Jim Holmes
It is made from Beech wood.  It is a nutrient, very close in structure to
sugar, with one-third the calories.  

 

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From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

 

I also heard that gum made with Xylitol will help clear nasal problem for
children...deb

Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net wrote: 

It is NOT sugar from sugar cane that is in Xylitol.  It is a natural
sweetener.

Nancy

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 11:41 AM

Subject: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

 

Every post I have r! ead by one who has used a CS/MSM or DMSO/Xylitol
solution nasally has reported good results. 

 

I have considered that the sugar might feed some forms of bacteria or
fungus.

 

Does anyone have any experiences or research to offer?

 

TIA.

 

Jim 


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RE: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-02 Thread Jim Holmes
Most non-chemical-food stores. 

 

-Original Message-
From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

 

Where can one buy xylitol?  I tried GNC, Publix grocery, and

Walgreens, but to no avail.  The druggist who is a friend gave me a fairly
large bottle of a type of xylitol that looks

like small chiclets to chew, but no powder form.



CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-01 Thread Jim Holmes
Every post I have read by one who has used a CS/MSM or DMSO/Xylitol solution
nasally has reported good results. 

 

I have considered that the sugar might feed some forms of bacteria or
fungus.

 

Does anyone have any experiences or research to offer?

 

TIA.

 

Jim 



Re: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections

2006-04-01 Thread Nancy DeLise
It is NOT sugar from sugar cane that is in Xylitol.  It is a natural sweetener.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 11:41 AM
  Subject: CSXylitol and sinus fungal infections


  Every post I have read by one who has used a CS/MSM or DMSO/Xylitol solution 
nasally has reported good results. 



  I have considered that the sugar might feed some forms of bacteria or fungus.



  Does anyone have any experiences or research to offer?



  TIA.



  Jim 



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