Re: CSabscessed gums and chaparral

2008-09-05 Thread Norton, Steve
Shirley,
Here is the info 
 - Steve

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From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue Sep 02 22:28:13 2008
Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums

Hi Steve,
 
Thanks so much for the info.  By 0.5 in I assume you mean 1/2 inch above 
the chapparral, correct?
 
Bob

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From: Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:58 AM
Subject: RE: CSabscessed gums

Bob,
Sorry to not reply last night but I was on my Blackberry and it isn't 
user friendly in providing links. Here is the link to Ryan Drum's article:
http://www.ryandrum.com/Devilsclub.htm
Here is an excerpt from the article:
Chaparral contains over 600 medicinally active ingredients; some of 
these are extremely antimicrobial against both Gram positive and Gram negative 
bacteria. In one case, a 10-yr-old male presented with an abscessing lower 
molar; the gum was very swollen and tender. I used a strong (1:1) 50% alcohol 
extract of chaparral directly on the inflamed area at thirty minute intervals 
for 8 hours and then once every 4 hours. The swelling subsided at the end of 
eight hours and all signs of inflammation resolved in 48 hours. The 
inflammation did not recur. I was using both the strong anti-inflammatory and 
the antimicrobial activity of the Chaparral. I suspected that some coarse food 
particle(s) had lodged deep between the gum and the tooth and driven aerobic 
bacteria into an anaerobic growth phase. No initiating trauma was identified. 
If there had been less acute inflammation, I may have used a different 
botanical.
I bought my chaparral powder from:
http://www.herbalcom.com/ http://www.herbalcom.com/ 
I made a 50% alcohol extract (tincture) using vodka. To make a 
tincture, put the chaparral powder in a jar and add vodka to 0.5 inches higher 
than the chaparral. Store in a darkened place and wait 2 weeks, shaking the 
tincture once every day. At the end of the two weks just filter out the powder 
and you have it.
 - Steve



From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums


Steve,
 
 I'd be interested in the link to the herbalist for the chaparral.  
I have a cavity that needs filling as I type, so I'm a good candidate.
 
 Bob

 



RE: CSabscessed gums

2008-09-02 Thread Norton, Steve
Bob,
Sorry to not reply last night but I was on my Blackberry and it isn't
user friendly in providing links. Here is the link to Ryan Drum's
article:
http://www.ryandrum.com/Devilsclub.htm
Here is an excerpt from the article:
Chaparral contains over 600 medicinally active ingredients; some of
these are extremely antimicrobial against both Gram positive and Gram
negative bacteria. In one case, a 10-yr-old male presented with an
abscessing lower molar; the gum was very swollen and tender. I used a
strong (1:1) 50% alcohol extract of chaparral directly on the inflamed
area at thirty minute intervals for 8 hours and then once every 4 hours.
The swelling subsided at the end of eight hours and all signs of
inflammation resolved in 48 hours. The inflammation did not recur. I was
using both the strong anti-inflammatory and the antimicrobial activity
of the Chaparral. I suspected that some coarse food particle(s) had
lodged deep between the gum and the tooth and driven aerobic bacteria
into an anaerobic growth phase. No initiating trauma was identified. If
there had been less acute inflammation, I may have used a different
botanical.
I bought my chaparral powder from:
http://www.herbalcom.com/ http://www.herbalcom.com/ 
I made a 50% alcohol extract (tincture) using vodka. To make a tincture,
put the chaparral powder in a jar and add vodka to 0.5 inches higher
than the chaparral. Store in a darkened place and wait 2 weeks, shaking
the tincture once every day. At the end of the two weks just filter out
the powder and you have it.
 - Steve



From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums


Steve,
 
 I'd be interested in the link to the herbalist for the chaparral.
I have a cavity that needs filling as I type, so I'm a good candidate.
 
 Bob

 



Re: CSabscessed gums

2008-09-02 Thread bbanever
Re: CSabscessed gumsHi Steve,

Thanks so much for the info.  By 0.5 in I assume you mean 1/2 inch above 
the chapparral, correct?

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:58 AM
  Subject: RE: CSabscessed gums


  Bob,
  Sorry to not reply last night but I was on my Blackberry and it isn't user 
friendly in providing links. Here is the link to Ryan Drum's article:
  http://www.ryandrum.com/Devilsclub.htm
  Here is an excerpt from the article:
  Chaparral contains over 600 medicinally active ingredients; some of these are 
extremely antimicrobial against both Gram positive and Gram negative bacteria. 
In one case, a 10-yr-old male presented with an abscessing lower molar; the gum 
was very swollen and tender. I used a strong (1:1) 50% alcohol extract of 
chaparral directly on the inflamed area at thirty minute intervals for 8 hours 
and then once every 4 hours. The swelling subsided at the end of eight hours 
and all signs of inflammation resolved in 48 hours. The inflammation did not 
recur. I was using both the strong anti-inflammatory and the antimicrobial 
activity of the Chaparral. I suspected that some coarse food particle(s) had 
lodged deep between the gum and the tooth and driven aerobic bacteria into an 
anaerobic growth phase. No initiating trauma was identified. If there had been 
less acute inflammation, I may have used a different botanical.
  I bought my chaparral powder from:
  http://www.herbalcom.com/
  I made a 50% alcohol extract (tincture) using vodka. To make a tincture, put 
the chaparral powder in a jar and add vodka to 0.5 inches higher than the 
chaparral. Store in a darkened place and wait 2 weeks, shaking the tincture 
once every day. At the end of the two weks just filter out the powder and you 
have it.
   - Steve


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  From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
  Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums


  Steve,

   I'd be interested in the link to the herbalist for the chaparral.  I 
have a cavity that needs filling as I type, so I'm a good candidate.

   Bob


Re: CSabscessed gums

2008-09-02 Thread Norton, Steve
Yes. And do not forget to add ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) to the final tincture.
 - Steve

- Original Message -
From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue Sep 02 22:28:13 2008
Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums

Hi Steve,
 
Thanks so much for the info.  By 0.5 in I assume you mean 1/2 inch above 
the chapparral, correct?
 
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:58 AM
Subject: RE: CSabscessed gums

Bob,
Sorry to not reply last night but I was on my Blackberry and it isn't 
user friendly in providing links. Here is the link to Ryan Drum's article:
http://www.ryandrum.com/Devilsclub.htm
Here is an excerpt from the article:
Chaparral contains over 600 medicinally active ingredients; some of 
these are extremely antimicrobial against both Gram positive and Gram negative 
bacteria. In one case, a 10-yr-old male presented with an abscessing lower 
molar; the gum was very swollen and tender. I used a strong (1:1) 50% alcohol 
extract of chaparral directly on the inflamed area at thirty minute intervals 
for 8 hours and then once every 4 hours. The swelling subsided at the end of 
eight hours and all signs of inflammation resolved in 48 hours. The 
inflammation did not recur. I was using both the strong anti-inflammatory and 
the antimicrobial activity of the Chaparral. I suspected that some coarse food 
particle(s) had lodged deep between the gum and the tooth and driven aerobic 
bacteria into an anaerobic growth phase. No initiating trauma was identified. 
If there had been less acute inflammation, I may have used a different 
botanical.
I bought my chaparral powder from:
http://www.herbalcom.com/ http://www.herbalcom.com/ 
I made a 50% alcohol extract (tincture) using vodka. To make a 
tincture, put the chaparral powder in a jar and add vodka to 0.5 inches higher 
than the chaparral. Store in a darkened place and wait 2 weeks, shaking the 
tincture once every day. At the end of the two weks just filter out the powder 
and you have it.
 - Steve



From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums


Steve,
 
 I'd be interested in the link to the herbalist for the chaparral.  
I have a cavity that needs filling as I type, so I'm a good candidate.
 
 Bob

 



Re: CSabscessed gums

2008-09-01 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Morning Dee,

 At 07:27 AM 9/1/2008, you wrote:

Kathy, my daughter had *terrible* gum abscesses and everytime they were
cured with just holding CS in the mouth for as long as could be stood
and then spitting out (and sometimes swallowing)


  My bogus two bit generator and my bogus methods, no measurement, 
no EC , and no ppm meters,


Saved a friend of mine from 4 gum surgeries.

He went to the dentist, expecting to go into the hospital the next day.

The dentist said,.

 You do not have to have the surgery, your gums are all healed up ?

 What have you been doing, Brushing and flossing as I told you to do ?

 My friend stated, ... NO, I have not been brushing and flossing at all.

 He told the stupid dentist about CS, and the dentist just shook his 
head, ...

in confusion and doubt, and of course in GREAT IGNORANCE.

 That is the status of the world, .. many fools and many ignorant people.
  ( mostly doctors and mainstream believers )

 And it always will be.

 Wayne





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Re: CSabscessed gums

2008-09-01 Thread Leslie
Amen to that! This is why I appreciate the CS list
because of the interest in natural means instead of
the pharmaceuticals or doctors. 
--- Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote:

 Morning Dee,
 
   At 07:27 AM 9/1/2008, you wrote:
 Kathy, my daughter had *terrible* gum abscesses and
 everytime they were
 cured with just holding CS in the mouth for as long
 as could be stood
 and then spitting out (and sometimes swallowing)
 
My bogus two bit generator and my bogus methods,
 no measurement, 
 no EC , and no ppm meters,
 
 Saved a friend of mine from 4 gum surgeries.
 
 He went to the dentist, expecting to go into the
 hospital the next day.
 
 The dentist said,.
 
   You do not have to have the surgery, your gums are
 all healed up ?
 
   What have you been doing, Brushing and flossing as
 I told you to do ?
 
   My friend stated, ... NO, I have not been
 brushing and flossing at all.
 
   He told the stupid dentist about CS, and the
 dentist just shook his 
 head, ...
 in confusion and doubt, and of course in GREAT
 IGNORANCE.
 
   That is the status of the world, .. many fools
 and many ignorant people.
( mostly doctors and mainstream believers )
 
   And it always will be.
 
   Wayne
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSabscessed gums

2008-09-01 Thread craehow...@juno.com
You could also try brusing with MMS.  I've been doing this for 3 months now and 
my mouth is better then its been in a long time.  Whiter teeth,  no bleeding 
gums, breath.  One of the member posted it.
I use 10 to 15 drops MMS to 40 drops of citrus acid.  This list has talked 
extensively about MMS in the past.  You can google Jim Humble and MMS.  He has 
a site with a free download book.  
best of luck

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Re: CSabscessed gums

2008-09-01 Thread Norton, Steve
I have had a problem with a tooth infection that has resisted antibiotics, MMS 
and CS. I ran across an herbalust that recommends chapparal for tooth and other 
infections. The one problem with chapparal has been that continued long term 
use of chapparal can interfere with the liver. There is a patent that shows 
that Ascorbic acid, vitamin Cn added to a tintured chapparal nullifies the 
liver toxic substance. I tintured chapparal and added ascorbic acid and tried 
it on the infection. I applied it with a Q-tip every 2 hrs for 1 day. Amazingly 
the infection went away. If anypone is interested I can provide the link to the 
herbalist. Chapparal has joined CS, MMS and DMSO as a staple in my treatments.
 - Steve N

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From: craehow...@juno.com craehow...@juno.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon Sep 01 18:05:13 2008
Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums

You could also try brusing with MMS.  I've been doing this for 3 months now and 
my mouth is better then its been in a long time.  Whiter teeth,  no bleeding 
gums, breath.  One of the member posted it.

I use 10 to 15 drops MMS to 40 drops of citrus acid.  This list has talked 
extensively about MMS in the past.  You can google Jim Humble and MMS.  He has 
a site with a free download book.  

best of luck



 
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Re: CSabscessed gums

2008-09-01 Thread bbanever
Re: CSabscessed gumsSteve,
 
 I'd be interested in the link to the herbalist for the chaparral.  I have 
a cavity that needs filling as I type, so I'm a good candidate.

 Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 4:37 PM
  Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums


  I have had a problem with a tooth infection that has resisted antibiotics, 
MMS and CS. I ran across an herbalust that recommends chapparal for tooth and 
other infections. The one problem with chapparal has been that continued long 
term use of chapparal can interfere with the liver. There is a patent that 
shows that Ascorbic acid, vitamin Cn added to a tintured chapparal nullifies 
the liver toxic substance. I tintured chapparal and added ascorbic acid and 
tried it on the infection. I applied it with a Q-tip every 2 hrs for 1 day. 
Amazingly the infection went away. If anypone is interested I can provide the 
link to the herbalist. Chapparal has joined CS, MMS and DMSO as a staple in my 
treatments.
   - Steve N

  - Original Message -
  From: craehow...@juno.com craehow...@juno.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Mon Sep 01 18:05:13 2008
  Subject: Re: CSabscessed gums

  You could also try brusing with MMS.  I've been doing this for 3 months now 
and my mouth is better then its been in a long time.  Whiter teeth,  no 
bleeding gums, breath.  One of the member posted it.

  I use 10 to 15 drops MMS to 40 drops of citrus acid.  This list has talked 
extensively about MMS in the past.  You can google Jim Humble and MMS.  He has 
a site with a free download book. 

  best of luck



  
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