Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-17 Thread Pamela Grant
Thanks Ivan. I forget you are so far away.






Hi Pam,

Ozone is ozone and is irritating to mucus membranes at high
concentrations. The smell is not a consistent measurement device.

Ozone is not toxic per se, but produces toxic compounds when it reacts
with pollution. The typical home has less ozone present than will be
found in the countryside especially near rivers and waterfalls. The
concentration at these places is healthful, and tests have been
undertaken which prove that the generation of small amounts of ozone
into the air lessens the illness rate of children at school.

In my daughters room, I set the air pump and ozone generator, close the
door and let it run for 3 or 4 hours, after which I open the door and
windows to a lovely fresh room. I do the other rooms in the house
periodically.

I use an aquarium air pump of some 4 Litres per minute max and an
aquarium ozoniser of 150mg/L . I sell these as part of the 4 point Beck
protocol although that is perhaps not much use to you on the other side
of the world... mind you the US$ is worth 2 x NZ$.

Any way, hope this is of help... and jolly good luck.

Ivan

- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant pjgr...@northnet.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, 15 July 2000 12:34
Subject: Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?


 Thanks Ivan. I am open to any opinions out there as to a good,
non-toxic
 ozone generator. Or are they as effective? What kind do you use, Ivan?

 Pam



 Pam,
 
 Go with the ozone.
 My daughters room is very damp, and I have found that 3or 4 hrs of
ozone
 treatment per week eliminates mould and musty smell.
 
 I use the same machine (aquarium air pump and ozonator) that I use
for
 ozonising drinking water.
 
 A spray with CS helps also.
 
 Ivan.



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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-15 Thread Henry Reed
Ivan, can you please give me info about the ozonating apparatus you
sell?  Do you have a website with pics?

Ivan Anderson wrote:
 
 Hi Pam,
 
 Ozone is ozone and is irritating to mucus membranes at high
 concentrations. The smell is not a consistent measurement device.
 
 Ozone is not toxic per se, but produces toxic compounds when it reacts
 with pollution. The typical home has less ozone present than will be
 found in the countryside especially near rivers and waterfalls. The
 concentration at these places is healthful, and tests have been
 undertaken which prove that the generation of small amounts of ozone
 into the air lessens the illness rate of children at school.
 
 In my daughters room, I set the air pump and ozone generator, close the
 door and let it run for 3 or 4 hours, after which I open the door and
 windows to a lovely fresh room. I do the other rooms in the house
 periodically.
 
 I use an aquarium air pump of some 4 Litres per minute max and an
 aquarium ozoniser of 150mg/L . I sell these as part of the 4 point Beck
 protocol although that is perhaps not much use to you on the other side
 of the world... mind you the US$ is worth 2 x NZ$.
 
 Any way, hope this is of help... and jolly good luck.
 
 Ivan
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Pamela Grant pjgr...@northnet.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, 15 July 2000 12:34
 Subject: Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?
 
  Thanks Ivan. I am open to any opinions out there as to a good,
 non-toxic
  ozone generator. Or are they as effective? What kind do you use, Ivan?
 
  Pam
 
 
 
  Pam,
  
  Go with the ozone.
  My daughters room is very damp, and I have found that 3or 4 hrs of
 ozone
  treatment per week eliminates mould and musty smell.
  
  I use the same machine (aquarium air pump and ozonator) that I use
 for
  ozonising drinking water.
  
  A spray with CS helps also.
  
  Ivan.
 
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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-15 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Ya'all,

M y wife and I have been using the ultrasonic vaporizer (about $24.00 at
Walgreen's drug store) for some time when we hve bronchial problems.  It
takes about a gallon of 10 ppm CS. No dilution.

Ole Bob





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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-14 Thread Ivan Anderson
Pam,

Go with the ozone.
My daughters room is very damp, and I have found that 3or 4 hrs of ozone
treatment per week eliminates mould and musty smell.

I use the same machine (aquarium air pump and ozonator) that I use for
ozonising drinking water.

A spray with CS helps also.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant pjgr...@northnet.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 14 July 2000 13:29
Subject: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?


 It is strange, but every now and then an e-mail I send to this list
never
 makes it. Oh well, must be something I did as it was not a hot topic
to
 have confiscated by the you know who's.

 Now, I will try again. In my cellar I have a mold and fungus problem.
I
 have been thinking of waays in which I might be able to rid this
problem.
 I've thought of taking a hose and attaching a container of clorox and
 spraying everything, but I am sensitive tot hose fumes. I have also
 considered using an ozone generator to kill off the molds, but I would
lso
 be breathing this toxin in as well. I've thought of replacing CS for
the
 clorox in the hose, but I really don't want to gett everything wet,
besides
 moisture is part of the problem anyway. I am now thinking of a
humidifier
 using CS, but again--it's more moisture and my dehumidifier runs
constantly
 as it is---and would a humidifier really get CS all through the air?
What
 about putting the humidifier into the furmnace(next to the blower?--a
 friend told me he puts his ionizer in that spot?). What I am really
hoping
 for is to spark the genius in you electrical engineers for a whole new
 invention for getting CS through the air. Anyone up for the challenge?

 Pam



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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-14 Thread Gdwny
In a message dated 7/13/00 7:52:04 PM Central Daylight Time, 
pjgr...@northnet.org writes:

 It is strange, but every now and then an e-mail I send to this list never
 makes it. Oh well, must be something I did as it was not a hot topic to
 have confiscated by the you know who's.
 
 Now, I will try again. In my cellar I have a mold and fungus problem. I
 have been thinking of waays in which I might be able to rid this problem.
 I've thought of taking a hose and attaching a container of clorox and
 spraying everything, but I am sensitive tot hose fumes. I have also
 considered using an ozone generator to kill off the molds, but I would lso
 be breathing this toxin in as well. I've thought of replacing CS for the
 clorox in the hose, but I really don't want to gett everything wet, besides
 moisture is part of the problem anyway. I am now thinking of a humidifier
 using CS, but again--it's more moisture and my dehumidifier runs constantly
 as it is---and would a humidifier really get CS all through the air? What
 about putting the humidifier into the furmnace(next to the blower?--a
 friend told me he puts his ionizer in that spot?). What I am really hoping
 for is to spark the genius in you electrical engineers for a whole new
 invention for getting CS through the air. Anyone up for the challenge?
 
 Pam
  
The only way I can see you using the CS is by direct application to the 
surfaces. It would have a better result because of the residual effect than 
hydrogen peroxide like I have used. That is quickly lost with it. But I see 
no way to really get what you want by only trying to do this through 
atomization.

Gene Downey


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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
I think the ozone idea is good.  Ozone quickly breaks down, so I would set it
up, leave the house, and let it run a few hours.  Then turn it off and leave the
house again for a while until it dissipates.

Marshall

gd...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 7/13/00 7:52:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
 pjgr...@northnet.org writes:

  It is strange, but every now and then an e-mail I send to this list never
  makes it. Oh well, must be something I did as it was not a hot topic to
  have confiscated by the you know who's.

  Now, I will try again. In my cellar I have a mold and fungus problem. I
  have been thinking of waays in which I might be able to rid this problem.
  I've thought of taking a hose and attaching a container of clorox and
  spraying everything, but I am sensitive tot hose fumes. I have also
  considered using an ozone generator to kill off the molds, but I would lso
  be breathing this toxin in as well. I've thought of replacing CS for the
  clorox in the hose, but I really don't want to gett everything wet, besides
  moisture is part of the problem anyway. I am now thinking of a humidifier
  using CS, but again--it's more moisture and my dehumidifier runs constantly
  as it is---and would a humidifier really get CS all through the air? What
  about putting the humidifier into the furmnace(next to the blower?--a
  friend told me he puts his ionizer in that spot?). What I am really hoping
  for is to spark the genius in you electrical engineers for a whole new
  invention for getting CS through the air. Anyone up for the challenge?

  Pam
   
 The only way I can see you using the CS is by direct application to the
 surfaces. It would have a better result because of the residual effect than
 hydrogen peroxide like I have used. That is quickly lost with it. But I see
 no way to really get what you want by only trying to do this through
 atomization.

 Gene Downey

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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-14 Thread Marc Rondi
I would think that an ultrasonic humidifier might work to disperse CS
into the air -- maybe with an additional circulating fan to really move
the vaporized CS throughout..  The fan  wick type of humidifier
would most likely just saturate the wick with CS and evaporate off only
the water.

:)  Marc




Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-14 Thread Pamela Grant
Thanks Ivan. I am open to any opinions out there as to a good, non-toxic
ozone generator. Or are they as effective? What kind do you use, Ivan?

Pam



Pam,

Go with the ozone.
My daughters room is very damp, and I have found that 3or 4 hrs of ozone
treatment per week eliminates mould and musty smell.

I use the same machine (aquarium air pump and ozonator) that I use for
ozonising drinking water.

A spray with CS helps also.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: Pamela Grant pjgr...@northnet.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, 14 July 2000 13:29
Subject: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?


 It is strange, but every now and then an e-mail I send to this list
never
 makes it. Oh well, must be something I did as it was not a hot topic
to
 have confiscated by the you know who's.

 Now, I will try again. In my cellar I have a mold and fungus problem.
I
 have been thinking of waays in which I might be able to rid this
problem.
 I've thought of taking a hose and attaching a container of clorox and
 spraying everything, but I am sensitive tot hose fumes. I have also
 considered using an ozone generator to kill off the molds, but I would
lso
 be breathing this toxin in as well. I've thought of replacing CS for
the
 clorox in the hose, but I really don't want to gett everything wet,
besides
 moisture is part of the problem anyway. I am now thinking of a
humidifier
 using CS, but again--it's more moisture and my dehumidifier runs
constantly
 as it is---and would a humidifier really get CS all through the air?
What
 about putting the humidifier into the furmnace(next to the blower?--a
 friend told me he puts his ionizer in that spot?). What I am really
hoping
 for is to spark the genius in you electrical engineers for a whole new
 invention for getting CS through the air. Anyone up for the challenge?

 Pam



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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-14 Thread Pamela Grant
Thanks.



I think the ozone idea is good.  Ozone quickly breaks down, so I would set it
up, leave the house, and let it run a few hours.  Then turn it off and
leave the
house again for a while until it dissipates.

Marshall

gd...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 7/13/00 7:52:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
 pjgr...@northnet.org writes:

  It is strange, but every now and then an e-mail I send to this list never
  makes it. Oh well, must be something I did as it was not a hot topic to
  have confiscated by the you know who's.

  Now, I will try again. In my cellar I have a mold and fungus problem. I
  have been thinking of waays in which I might be able to rid this problem.
  I've thought of taking a hose and attaching a container of clorox and
  spraying everything, but I am sensitive tot hose fumes. I have also
  considered using an ozone generator to kill off the molds, but I would lso
  be breathing this toxin in as well. I've thought of replacing CS for the
  clorox in the hose, but I really don't want to gett everything wet, besides
  moisture is part of the problem anyway. I am now thinking of a humidifier
  using CS, but again--it's more moisture and my dehumidifier runs constantly
  as it is---and would a humidifier really get CS all through the air? What
  about putting the humidifier into the furmnace(next to the blower?--a
  friend told me he puts his ionizer in that spot?). What I am really hoping
  for is to spark the genius in you electrical engineers for a whole new
  invention for getting CS through the air. Anyone up for the challenge?

  Pam
   
 The only way I can see you using the CS is by direct application to the
 surfaces. It would have a better result because of the residual effect than
 hydrogen peroxide like I have used. That is quickly lost with it. But I see
 no way to really get what you want by only trying to do this through
 atomization.

 Gene Downey

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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-14 Thread Pamela Grant
It's just a drab gray cellar with yellow fungus on the rock walls, black
couldn't possibly hurt the looks(just kidding)



   ##  A humidifier would probably work but if CS leaves a black deposit
after the water is removed, you might wind up with a sterile black room.
comments?
  ken

At 09:57 AM 7/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
In a message dated 7/13/00 7:52:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
pjgr...@northnet.org writes:

 It is strange, but every now and then an e-mail I send to this list never
  makes it. Oh well, must be something I did as it was not a hot topic to
  have confiscated by the you know who's.

  Now, I will try again. In my cellar I have a mold and fungus problem. I
  have been thinking of waays in which I might be able to rid this problem.
  I've thought of taking a hose and attaching a container of clorox and
  spraying everything, but I am sensitive tot hose fumes. I have also
  considered using an ozone generator to kill off the molds, but I would lso
  be breathing this toxin in as well. I've thought of replacing CS for the
  clorox in the hose, but I really don't want to gett everything wet, besides
  moisture is part of the problem anyway. I am now thinking of a humidifier
  using CS, but again--it's more moisture and my dehumidifier runs constantly
  as it is---and would a humidifier really get CS all through the air? What
  about putting the humidifier into the furmnace(next to the blower?--a
  friend told me he puts his ionizer in that spot?). What I am really hoping
  for is to spark the genius in you electrical engineers for a whole new
  invention for getting CS through the air. Anyone up for the challenge?

  Pam
   
The only way I can see you using the CS is by direct application to the
surfaces. It would have a better result because of the residual effect than
hydrogen peroxide like I have used. That is quickly lost with it. But I see
no way to really get what you want by only trying to do this through
atomization.

Gene Downey


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Re: CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-14 Thread Ode Wan Coyote
  ##  A humidifier would probably work but if CS leaves a black deposit 
after the water is removed, you might wind up with a sterile black room.

comments?
 ken

At 09:57 AM 7/14/00 -0400, you wrote:

In a message dated 7/13/00 7:52:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
pjgr...@northnet.org writes:

 It is strange, but every now and then an e-mail I send to this list never
 makes it. Oh well, must be something I did as it was not a hot topic to
 have confiscated by the you know who's.

 Now, I will try again. In my cellar I have a mold and fungus problem. I
 have been thinking of waays in which I might be able to rid this problem.
 I've thought of taking a hose and attaching a container of clorox and
 spraying everything, but I am sensitive tot hose fumes. I have also
 considered using an ozone generator to kill off the molds, but I would lso
 be breathing this toxin in as well. I've thought of replacing CS for the
 clorox in the hose, but I really don't want to gett everything wet, besides
 moisture is part of the problem anyway. I am now thinking of a humidifier
 using CS, but again--it's more moisture and my dehumidifier runs constantly
 as it is---and would a humidifier really get CS all through the air? What
 about putting the humidifier into the furmnace(next to the blower?--a
 friend told me he puts his ionizer in that spot?). What I am really hoping
 for is to spark the genius in you electrical engineers for a whole new
 invention for getting CS through the air. Anyone up for the challenge?

 Pam
  
The only way I can see you using the CS is by direct application to the
surfaces. It would have a better result because of the residual effect than
hydrogen peroxide like I have used. That is quickly lost with it. But I see
no way to really get what you want by only trying to do this through
atomization.

Gene Downey


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CSan air circulating CS invention anyone?

2000-07-13 Thread Pamela Grant
It is strange, but every now and then an e-mail I send to this list never
makes it. Oh well, must be something I did as it was not a hot topic to
have confiscated by the you know who's.

Now, I will try again. In my cellar I have a mold and fungus problem. I
have been thinking of waays in which I might be able to rid this problem.
I've thought of taking a hose and attaching a container of clorox and
spraying everything, but I am sensitive tot hose fumes. I have also
considered using an ozone generator to kill off the molds, but I would lso
be breathing this toxin in as well. I've thought of replacing CS for the
clorox in the hose, but I really don't want to gett everything wet, besides
moisture is part of the problem anyway. I am now thinking of a humidifier
using CS, but again--it's more moisture and my dehumidifier runs constantly
as it is---and would a humidifier really get CS all through the air? What
about putting the humidifier into the furmnace(next to the blower?--a
friend told me he puts his ionizer in that spot?). What I am really hoping
for is to spark the genius in you electrical engineers for a whole new
invention for getting CS through the air. Anyone up for the challenge?

Pam





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