Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

2004-02-09 Thread Ode Coyote


  You go , Frank.

 I see all sort of particle size assertions 'out there' but nothing at all
to back them up.
 It's not hard to figure why that is.
 Assertions make $$$
  Backing them up costs $$$
..and quite often reduces the assertions considerably.
 [Not to mention the crow pie factor]

 Then comes the temptation to spin the results at a very high RPM with
confusing language.

Ode

At 01:28 PM 2/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Ode Coyote wrote:

 Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is
limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is
never a problem with 'current runaway'.

 ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
current run away?  How?
 Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.


I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results
with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.

frank key



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CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

2004-02-08 Thread William Meyer

hi
the link below claims to be able to home brew zinc, copper, and gold  
ionic solutions.

this seems pretty new for a home generator.
i know water oz proprietary process claims to use another process  
rather than

our electrical ionic method to produce their colloidal minerals.

http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/ 
colloidal_gold_generator.htm


i admit, there seems to be no information on the process at  the above  
link,
but if anyone wishes to spend  the time i would be happy for an off the  
cuff comment.



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Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

2004-02-08 Thread Ode Coyote
 ## Brent seems to have some sort of clue about the electrical requirments
to make 'other than' colloidal silver.  He doesn't say much about what that
clue might be.

http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/colloidal_generator_sonic_mps.
html#Ultrasonic

## Humm  Interesting.  Pretty yellow murky looking CS though. [Could be the
microscopic bubbles that make it look murky if the photo was taken with the
unit running]
 Interesting way to handle electrodes.

 I was never able to make copper or zinc colloids at 30 v even with Brents
electrodes...maybe the ultrasound helps?
 
  Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is
limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is
never a problem with 'current runaway'.

 ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
current run away?  How?
 Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.

 The internal microprocessor circuitry will consistently put out 30 volts
at the correct amperage with all of the above power sources.The built in
microprocessor constantly controls the current supply irregardless of the
power source. Because of the stringent controls on the output power very
little oxidation will occur keeping the solution very clear.

When the voltage of the 9-volt battery drops down to 3.5 the unit will
automatically shut off.

###Current control and voltage referenced auto off?
 If so, it could have been said better 'cause it sounds like the gen will
shut off when the battery goes dead.
 The photo of the CS doesn't look all that 'clear' to me.
 Interesting what he says about oxidation. Not sure what he's talking about
though. Oxidation of what?


Ode

At 04:32 AM 2/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
hi
the link below claims to be able to home brew zinc, copper, and gold  
ionic solutions.
this seems pretty new for a home generator.
i know water oz proprietary process claims to use another process  
rather than
our electrical ionic method to produce their colloidal minerals.

http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/ 
colloidal_gold_generator.htm

i admit, there seems to be no information on the process at  the above  
link,
but if anyone wishes to spend  the time i would be happy for an off the  
cuff comment.


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Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

2004-02-08 Thread Frank Key
Ode Coyote wrote:

 Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is
limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is
never a problem with 'current runaway'.

 ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
current run away?  How?
 Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.


I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results
with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.

frank key



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Re: CScolloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

2004-02-08 Thread William Meyer

hi
i have forwarded this message to brent  who makes the generators

On Feb 8, 2004, at 1:28 PM, Frank Key wrote:


Ode Coyote wrote:

 Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle 
size is
limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there 
is

never a problem with 'current runaway'.

 ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
current run away?  How?
 Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.


I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the 
results

with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.

frank key



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