Re: CScurrent flow, resistance changes
Morning Andy, At 12:12 AM 9/14/2008, you wrote: After further research I discovered that electrons do change speed. I'll blame my lack of knowledge on public education. Yes, and I think the same thing. Only... I would say, My Old Public Education, Very old as a matter of fact. http://www.vicphysics.org/documents/teachers/synchrotronprojectKB.doc Very good article. I may save that one and add it to my collection and web site. Always like to read anything about Einstein. I started a web page long ago about early scientists. I have a few files on Einstein. I read one short statement there that made me smile. The Algebra gets a little messy. I was an algebra student too. Made all A's on high school and college algebra without even trying. It was all simple country logic to me. grin Likely they have changed some things by now. It was so long ago, I may have forgotten a little. Want to see an interesting Calculation. . Try this one. Calculate the Unbalanced Neutral Current, in a 3 Phase Y. Just look at the formula ! I put that formula in the HP 15 C, but it used so much of the memory, I decided to take it out. I do not recall saying anything or disagreeing with the electron speed or the flow. Instead I was concerned about the resistance changes. Unless the scientists have changed all that, and updated Ohms Law, I thought I understood resistors as well as most.Likely I have seen more damaged, shorted, open circuited, smoked, burned up, than many will ever see. I still have to explain the dangers and hazards of the resistor and diode, when I am in the right mood and thinking clear, . it that ever happens. grin I do not plan to get into the electron flow. I can't see the electrons, but I can see the effect there of. That should be very interesting even to the non technicians. ( All Safety Related ) Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScurrent flow, resistance changes
Morning Andy, At 11:29 PM 9/12/2008, you wrote: Isn't Mike saying I = E/R Where I is directly proportional to E and inversely proportional to R? Now,weather electrons speed up and sow down, I don't know about that... I did it understand it exactly the way you did. ( Mikes Statement ) At 10:41 AM 9/12/2008, you wrote: The higher the voltage or lower the resistance, then yes, the current will be higher, which means the electrons are moving faster in the wire. I understood this to mean, The Resistance Changes First, I would think it to be the other way around. The higher the voltage the higher the resistance depending on quantities. Likewise, with high currents, the electrons might be congested in the wire. Of course resistors heat up and wire heats up, under some conditions. Conductor derateing and voltage drop enters in. and dangers can exist. But that is another book. If these are sized so that the capacity is only 5, 10, maybe 50 %, that is another situation, When the capacity is reached, or nearly so, 80, 90, 0r 100 %, of course things change If the resistor is the wrong physical size, it will certainly change just before self destruction, and change drastically upon self destruction. This would all be easy to prove or disprove, by solving any circuit, 6 volts applied, 12, 18, 24, 36, 48, 60, 100, or whatever. And of course using instrumentation and calculation. I have an interesting resistor array I built for a specific purpose Using several large resistors, I mounted them to a 2 ft square aluminum plate, 1/4 inch thick. I knew it would get hot. The resistors would glow cherry red for a timed test without destruction. 100 amps 1200 watts. The array will fry an egg, heat a bowl of soup, and boil a pot of coffee, not that this was the purpose. I have seen resistor arrays that covered a complete wall. I am not sure what Mike was trying to do, maybe give us a headache or see what kind of mess we would make, working on the puzzle he created. Either way, He did a good job. grin Once Confused, ... always confused, it seems. Likely I have been working on the wrong thing. Wayne == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScurrent flow, resistance changes
Evening Wayne, After further research I discovered that electrons do change speed. I'll blame my lack of knowledge on public education. http://www.vicphysics.org/documents/teachers/synchrotronprojectKB.doc Andy In a message dated 9/13/2008 2:15:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cwa...@netdoor.com writes: Morning Andy, At 11:29 PM 9/12/2008, you wrote: Isn't Mike saying I = E/R Where I is directly proportional to E and inversely proportional to R? Now, whether electrons speed up and slow down, I don't know about that... I did it understand it exactly the way you did. ( Mikes Statement ) At 10:41 AM 9/12/2008, you wrote: The higher the voltage or lower the resistance, then yes, the current will be higher, which means the electrons are moving faster in the wire. I understood this to mean, The Resistance Changes First, I would think it to be the other way around. The higher the voltage the higher the resistance depending on quantities. Likewise, with high currents, the electrons might be congested in the wire. Of course resistors heat up and wire heats up, under some conditions. Conductor derateing and voltage drop enters in. and dangers can exist. But that is another book. If these are sized so that the capacity is only 5, 10, maybe 50 %, that is another situation, When the capacity is reached, or nearly so, 80, 90, 0r 100 %, of course things change If the resistor is the wrong physical size, it will certainly change just before self destruction, and change drastically upon self destruction. This would all be easy to prove or disprove, by solving any circuit, 6 volts applied, 12, 18, 24, 36, 48, 60, 100, or whatever. And of course using instrumentation and calculation. I have an interesting resistor array I built for a specific purpose Using several large resistors, I mounted them to a 2 ft square aluminum plate, 1/4 inch thick. I knew it would get hot. The resistors would glow cherry red for a timed test without destruction. 100 amps 1200 watts. The array will fry an egg, heat a bowl of soup, and boil a pot of coffee, not that this was the purpose. I have seen resistor arrays that covered a complete wall. I am not sure what Mike was trying to do, maybe give us a headache or see what kind of mess we would make, working on the puzzle he created. Either way, He did a good job. grin Once Confused, ... always confused, it seems. Likely I have been working on the wrong thing. Wayne == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com **Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
