Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
If you mix sulphuric and nitric together, you get something that will dissolve almost anything including gold I think. This mix is so famous that it has a name of it's own. [Don't recall the name just now] ..add a little glycerine? I don't believe that's what's in acid based tinning flux. ode At 07:47 AM 4/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: According to the standard lab reference Elements by John Emsley, science writer at Cambridge University Silver dissolves in sulfuric (H2SO4) and nitric acid (HNO3). Where did you get your information Marshall? Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 22:02, Marshall Dudley wrote: My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver is reactive meta
Hi, Ode, Gold can be dissolved in aqua regia, a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid. Best regards, Matthew
Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
I have some soldering flux. I do not believe it will affect pure silver and will try to do the experiment over the weekend. If it does, then that will be good news for those who want to remove silver stains and have been unable to do so. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall: It was solid silver. I observed It, from the time it was half gone until it was completely gone and always retained an opaque silver color Peter R My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
Aqua Rega is the name, and it will dissolve gold, thus it's name. I do not believe it will dissolve glass though, it takes hydroflouric acid for that. Mashall Ode Coyote wrote: If you mix sulphuric and nitric together, you get something that will dissolve almost anything including gold I think. This mix is so famous that it has a name of it's own. [Don't recall the name just now] ..add a little glycerine? I don't believe that's what's in acid based tinning flux. ode At 07:47 AM 4/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: According to the standard lab reference Elements by John Emsley, science writer at Cambridge University Silver dissolves in sulfuric (H2SO4) and nitric acid (HNO3). Where did you get your information Marshall? Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 22:02, Marshall Dudley wrote: My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
Aqua Regia? On 16 Apr 2004 at 6:35, Ode Coyote wrote: If you mix sulphuric and nitric together, you get something that will dissolve almost anything including gold I think. This mix is so famous that it has a name of it's own. [Don't recall the name just now] ..add a little glycerine? I don't believe that's what's in acid based tinning flux. ode At 07:47 AM 4/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: According to the standard lab reference Elements by John Emsley, science writer at Cambridge University Silver dissolves in sulfuric (H2SO4) and nitric acid (HNO3). Where did you get your information Marshall? Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 22:02, Marshall Dudley wrote: My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote:Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: CSsilver is reactive meta
High purity distilled water will leach very small amounts of silicon from glass. JOH -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver is reactive meta Aqua Rega is the name, and it will dissolve gold, thus it's name. I do not believe it will dissolve glass though, it takes hydroflouric acid for that. Mashall Ode Coyote wrote: If you mix sulphuric and nitric together, you get something that will dissolve almost anything including gold I think. This mix is so famous that it has a name of it's own. [Don't recall the name just now] ..add a little glycerine? I don't believe that's what's in acid based tinning flux. ode At 07:47 AM 4/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: According to the standard lab reference Elements by John Emsley, science writer at Cambridge University Silver dissolves in sulfuric (H2SO4) and nitric acid (HNO3). Where did you get your information Marshall? Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 22:02, Marshall Dudley wrote: My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: CSsilver is reactive meta
The active ingredient in most soft solder fluxes is zinc chloride, if that info is of any use to you. JOH -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver is reactive meta I have some soldering flux. I do not believe it will affect pure silver and will try to do the experiment over the weekend. If it does, then that will be good news for those who want to remove silver stains and have been unable to do so. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall: It was solid silver. I observed It, from the time it was half gone until it was completely gone and always retained an opaque silver color Peter R My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
According to the standard lab reference Elements by John Emsley, science writer at Cambridge University Silver dissolves in sulfuric (H2SO4) and nitric acid (HNO3). Where did you get your information Marshall? Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 22:02, Marshall Dudley wrote: My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
Silver does dissolve in concentrated sulfuric and nitric acid. I was not talking about dissolving, but reacting. Silver is pretty inert with respect to acids and most everything else. Marshall Garnet wrote: According to the standard lab reference Elements by John Emsley, science writer at Cambridge University Silver dissolves in sulfuric (H2SO4) and nitric acid (HNO3). Where did you get your information Marshall? Garnet On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 22:02, Marshall Dudley wrote: My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver is reactive meta
Marshall: It was solid silver. I observed It, from the time it was half gone until it was completely gone and always retained an opaque silver color Peter R My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
All that is white is not silver. - Original Message - From: Peter Rebaudo reba...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:08 PM Subject: CSsilver is reactive meta Marshall: It was solid silver. I observed It, from the time it was half gone until it was completely gone and always retained an opaque silver color Peter R My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver is reactive meta
My guess is that it was a 14K silver plated copper chain, and the copper reacted with the acid. There is no acid that will attack pure silver metal at room temperature alone. If there was then cleaning stains left by evaporated CS would be easy. Marshall Peter Rebaudo wrote: Marshall Wrote silver is one of the most inert metals there is, it is slightly more reactive than gold, but not much. You can drop it into fuming nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids (independently) and nothing happens. Marshal: As a child once I try to clean a silver chain in an Ounce of the acid tinners use to solder. The chain completely dissolved after a few minutes. What kind of acid do You think it was? Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
