Re: CS>Newbie - Just began making CS - SilverGen questions

2007-11-21 Thread Clayton Family
Most seem to use hand held meters as they are not too expensive. I use 
an HM COM 100 conductivity meter to measure the electrical conductivity 
of the distilled water before I start and when I am done. The 
conductivity reading is pretty close to correct for ppm, so the micro 
seimens=ppm.  A Total Dissolved Solids meter will tell you about what 
ppm your tap water is, but the way they are set, you have to double 
them for reading cs. They are not as accurate, but we are still 
shooting for a rather large target, so it may not matter.


I am sure there are other testers that cost much more money, but you 
would have to talk to an industry person for that.


Kathryn

On Nov 21, 2007, at 12:08 PM, kayedoe wrote:


On 11/21/07, S&JY  wrote:
If your generator doesn't automatically reverse polarity as it runs, 
and

both electrodes are sil


Not having a tds/ppm meter what do you all recommend as the most 
accurate?  Does anyone out there do anything more sophisticated to 
test their cs other that using tds/ppm with hand held / table top 
meters?


Are there other quality testing method / equipment that can be 
employed?


If so please share, Thanks
Mary




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Re: CS>Newbie - Just began making CS - SilverGen questions

2007-11-21 Thread kayedoe
On 11/21/07, S&JY  wrote:
> If your generator doesn't automatically reverse polarity as it runs, and
> both electrodes are silver, it would be a good idea to swap the electrodes
> each time you make a batch so they get consumed evenly.
>
> --Steve Y.

Thanks for such a speedy reply Steve, Glad to be here.

I most definitely want the electrodes to wear evenly, so swap them I will!

As far as filtering, I was kinda thinking along those lines, but
wanted to throw it out there just the same. The operating instructions
from SilverGen discussed filtering but it was not recommended for the
very same reasons you stated.

One thing is for sure I want my process to repeatedly produce high
quality cs. I worked for 17 years in the automotive coating industry
(QC/QA & Lab) I know first hand that subtle variation in titration and
analysis, although not recommended, it more important that whatever
you do be consistent. I use to tell the lab techs during training "If
you turn around three times, you better do it each and every time or
the variation in your method will come back and bite ya" LOL

I've been away from it for a few years; but one of the line was low
ammonium zinc chloride, so I am familiar with hull cell testing etc.

Not having a tds/ppm meter what do you all recommend as the most accurate?

Does anyone out there do anything more sophisticated to test their cs
other that using tds/ppm with hand held / table top meters?

Are there other quality testing method / equipment that can be employed?

If so please share, Thanks
Mary


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RE: CS>Newbie - Just began making CS - SilverGen questions

2007-11-21 Thread
Mary,

Welcome to the list!

It is normal to produce a little bit of "sludge" along with your product.
Just let it sink to the bottom and carefully decant off the good stuff,
leaving the sludge & a bit of liquid.  Then dump out that residue.  I don't
recommend using a filter as it will just contribute unwanted chemicals into
your batch, and it is an unnecessary pain to do it.  You can store your
product in the jar you made it in if you wish.  And you don't need to clean
the jar before making another batch.

If your generator doesn't automatically reverse polarity as it runs, and
both electrodes are silver, it would be a good idea to swap the electrodes
each time you make a batch so they get consumed evenly.

--Steve Y.

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From: kayedoe [mailto:kaye...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:04 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Newbie - Just began making CS - SilverGen questions

Hi all, I'm new to the list . I heard of this list through Beck n
Stuff yahoo group. These questions may have been asked a gazillion
times in the past but I had difficulty finding the list archives. so
here it goes...

I've been using cs for about three years (myself/kids and pets). Up to
this point I got my cs from a friend but I wanted the independence of
making my own so I bought a generator.

I just received my SilverGen unit last week and began making my own
cs. I am using distilled I made using a steam distiller. Up to this
point I am using a 32 oz glass jar. I was thinking I would prefer to
make a gallon at a time. I do have 1 gal wide mouth glass jars.

I don't have any form of TDS or PPM meter so I have no idea exactly
what the final results have been.  I have the meter set to high.

Although I have been using cs for almost three years I have some
newbie questions in terms of making cs on your own.

A couple of observations I wanted to bounce off others who making
their own, especially if they are using the
SilverGen...

Sludge build up only on one side. Is this normal only to build up on one
side?

Ash? What is this?
In the 4th batch, I noticed what appears as a small ant hill like pile
in the bottom of the jar.

Once the build up on the silver was visual, I began wiping the silver
clean before beginning the next batch. I did have a laser, one of my
cats favorite toys :o) so I checked the solution and was able to see
the laser line through the solution. With the help of the laser I was
able to confirm that here were different particle sizes visually in
suspension that were not visible to the naked eye. The product does
have a silver taste. What I am referencing as ash is NOT metal fallout
as I know it.  After I noticed this result I stopped production.

The solution is CLEAR, no presents of color.

Do I simply filter this batch or discard? If have you all used to filter cs?

Any suggestion and comments are welcome.

Mary

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