Re: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-07 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 3/7/05 11:56:35 AM Central Standard Time, b...@aol.com 
writes:


> Please stay on this list.  This list needs balance 
> 

I agree -- diversity is valuable. MA


Re: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-07 Thread B56G
Dave,
 
Please stay on this list.  I personally don't like the political posts  that 
I read.  This list needs balance and you sound like one balanced  person.
 
Bev


RE: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-07 Thread Louise
Where are you living, most animals are over crowded and very little natural
nutrition or social interaction even.

Louise

-Original Message-
From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Open letter to the Silver List


Actually, Farm animals get better treatment.  Fewer drugs, and more emphasis
on nutrition therapies.




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Re: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-06 Thread kent

Thanks Dave well said
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:26 PM
Subject: CS>Open letter to the Silver List






"Follow the Money" is an oft quoted phrase generally used on 
the Silver List to discredit the motivations of someone who 
may have a monetary interest in a product or service. 
However, money is not the only motivation for, or means of 
gratification of, self interest.  There are other payoffs. 
Perhaps a better phrase would be "Follow the Payoff".


Are all Doctors evil?  Do they cynically treat you, without 
any regard for your welfare, in order to buy another car or 
take another vacation?  Does the fact that someone gets paid 
for their services mean that they are mercenary prostitutes? 
 Does the fact that someone gives you something without 
asking for money in return mean that they have pure motives, 
what they give is pure, is "The Truth", that there is no 
bias or ulterior motive or payoff?


The answer is, of course not!

Mike, the Silver List is being used constantly, against the 
spirit of the guidelines, to promote a political philosophy, 
which is presented as an article of faith, religiously, 
evangelically, and fanatically, complete with jargon and 
dogmas.  It is being used constantly to advertise a product 
and an agenda; John Rigby's product and agenda, Matrixide.


Matrixide is an anti-establishment political philosophy.  I 
was not sure whether to call it a political philosophy or a 
religion, but I think that it acts mostly like a political 
philosophy presented in an evangelical, almost fanatical, 
fashion with a true religious fervor.


There are some health messages which can be useful and 
helpful, although these are difficult to find in an 
unadulterated form, but these are secondary to the primary 
message which is an attack on Doctors, Politicians, and the 
System.


While this may be valid from a certain point of view, it is 
actually a soul-destroying, victim based philosophy that, 
instead of leading to freedom, leads to another sort of 
enslavement.  The only difference is that you will be 
enslaved with John Rigby and his crowd rather than with 
George Bush and his crowd.


Best get out from under this sort of mental/emotional 
enslavement.  Paranoia does not lead to health.  Healthy 
living and healthy thinking leads to health.  Ranting, 
raving, hatred, cynicism, vilification, boasting, posturing, 
jargon, and self aggrandizement does not lead to health.


If you want to eat a healthy diet, go ahead and eat a 
healthy diet!  Yes, it takes some re-education, and that is 
unfortunate, but most of the food is still there.  Even most 
supplements are necessary only to compensate for bad diet. 
Granted, you may not find certain things easily like raw 
unpasturized milk, but this has not been done in a 
conspiratorial way to try to try to make you unhealthy so 
you become a paying slave to the unholy health industry and 
die early as a method of stealth birth control.  Rather, it 
is an attempt, however misguided or ignorant, to regulate a 
product for the public welfare, to reduce disease, not to 
make you sick.


The attempt to simplify the way this is talked about, to use 
jargon, to create a dogma, is, in itself, sick.  Sick.  I 
say again, sick.


I am no longer willing to immerse myself in this unwholesome 
current of energy and, therefore, I probably won't be on the 
Silver List much longer.


How about you?

Dan Nave

This act of controlled folly is my gesture to you, the 
Silver List.




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Re: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-06 Thread william meyer

the system -the entire system is broken.
it will not be fixed by normal means as the norm is now...?
all one has to do is look around with open eyes..., very calmly and 
quietly.

not easy to do.
first ones body and mind need to experience some calm.
that means withdrawal from addictions and distractions and 
"entertainment".


On Sunday, March 6, 2005, at 07:51 PM, alltogether...@webtv.net wrote:


"How about you?"

 Since you asked, I will tell you; I have been denied non-toxic
treatment of IV vitamin C by the culture of fear that rules the AMA and
FDA. I won't bother everyone with the details; just invite you to find a
mainstream doc who knows of it, or endorses it, and an insurance co.
that will pay for it. The ones who will do it risk their license.
 There is a patent for tetracil; a silver solution that cures aids. Do
you see it on the news?
 There is a silver catheter method that results in hiv, and hcv negative
blood test.
 You have to go to Mexico to get it.
 Look up doctor Burzynski out of Texas, re: Cancer.
 My doctor in Md.was harrassed until he had to move to Wash DC.
 Codex; do I need to say more?
 Sorry that the negatives are getting to you, but I'm glad people are
grumbling.
  "We" are getting pissed off and more numerous. That makes me happy as
hell.
 I am fed up with being managed like a farm animal.


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RE: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-06 Thread Jim Holmes
Actually, Farm animals get better treatment.  Fewer drugs, and more emphasis
on nutrition therapies. 

-Original Message-
From: alltogether...@webtv.net [mailto:alltogether...@webtv.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 5:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

"How about you?"

 Since you asked, I will tell you; I have been denied non-toxic
treatment of IV vitamin C by the culture of fear that rules the AMA and
FDA. I won't bother everyone with the details; just invite you to find a
mainstream doc who knows of it, or endorses it, and an insurance co.
that will pay for it. The ones who will do it risk their license.
 There is a patent for tetracil; a silver solution that cures aids. Do
you see it on the news? 
 There is a silver catheter method that results in hiv, and hcv negative
blood test.
 You have to go to Mexico to get it.
 Look up doctor Burzynski out of Texas, re: Cancer. 
 My doctor in Md.was harrassed until he had to move to Wash DC.
 Codex; do I need to say more?
 Sorry that the negatives are getting to you, but I'm glad people are
grumbling.
  "We" are getting pissed off and more numerous. That makes me happy as
hell.
 I am fed up with being managed like a farm animal. 


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Re: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-06 Thread cking001
Nicely thought out post Dave, I'm on your side.
Please don't thow out the baby with the BS though.
Stick around, there's a lot of good stuff too.

Chuck

NEVER ! hold a cat while starting a chain-saw


On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 18:26:37 -0600, Dan Nave 
wrote:

>I am no longer willing to immerse myself in this unwholesome 
>current of energy and, therefore, I probably won't be on the 
>Silver List much longer.
>
>How about you?
>
>Dan Nave
>
>This act of controlled folly is my gesture to you, the 
>Silver List.



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Re: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-06 Thread alltogethernow
"How about you?"

 Since you asked, I will tell you; I have been denied non-toxic
treatment of IV vitamin C by the culture of fear that rules the AMA and
FDA. I won't bother everyone with the details; just invite you to find a
mainstream doc who knows of it, or endorses it, and an insurance co.
that will pay for it. The ones who will do it risk their license.
 There is a patent for tetracil; a silver solution that cures aids. Do
you see it on the news? 
 There is a silver catheter method that results in hiv, and hcv negative
blood test.
 You have to go to Mexico to get it.
 Look up doctor Burzynski out of Texas, re: Cancer. 
 My doctor in Md.was harrassed until he had to move to Wash DC.
 Codex; do I need to say more?
 Sorry that the negatives are getting to you, but I'm glad people are
grumbling.
  "We" are getting pissed off and more numerous. That makes me happy as
hell.
 I am fed up with being managed like a farm animal. 


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Re: CS>Open letter to the Silver List

2005-03-06 Thread alltogethernow
test


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