Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-25 Thread Ode Coyote



  The common denominator is us.
We want something that has inherent difficulties without the difficulties.
 Any solution to those difficulties is the wrong one because we want the 
something that has those difficulties to solve but don't want what it takes 
to solve them.

 Classic Can't have it both ways  Safe AND cheap.

Their profits, depend entirely upon our desires, so they have no choice 
but to do what they do when juggling opposites to try and please us enough 
to remain customers.
 If they don't find some cheap way to make cheap food safe, we won't have 
anything TO buy EXCEPT local, grown and picked by us at our labor 
rates...and we don't want to pay that price, which is why we buy from them.


They CANNOT sell something that we won't buy.
 If they can't sell it, they are out of business.  Period.
 A recall is not a sale.
 It's *pure loss* that they believe consumers will not pay, confirmed by 
the fact that we DO buy that cheap food rather than the local food that 
*does* encompass the cost of safety without using questionable measures to 
achieve it.


 But there is another limit.  Define local
 Truly Local food is completely seasonal.  Beans and salt pork all winter 
like it used to be.  At least the South gets fresh collards with that.
 If we want food that's not local for the variety, back to square 
one...transport, distribution and the same difficulties... no matter who 
grew it at what cost, by whatever method.

 More hands, more problems.
 Does that redneck collards grower always wash his hands?  Is not organic 
fertilizer poop ?
 Was there some reason that people used to traditionally wilt their 
lettuce in boiling water?

 Is irradiation really worse for nutrition than canning?

 It's easy to tell someone to not do something when it's not you that has 
to do it.
Evils are, always were and always will be relative to what YOU are willing 
to do.


 What happens if they just throw up their hands with the impossibilities 
of it all?
 Local cannot take up the variety slack, even IF, it is better done, and 
there is no guarantee it always will be.


I suppose we could all become farmers and transport ourselves around with 
the seasons.
OK Yank.  Feel like a bit of Tex/Mex tonight?   Good luck.  Dried apples 
and half rotted cabbage with carcinogen smoked sausage again, you old sour 
kraut.


Just look back 80 years and see what diet was like.  STILL had Salmonella 
cases.
In 1964 there was no such thing as broccoli or cauliflower on a Southern 
grocery store shelf.

Corn, collards, butter beans and black eyed peas, no other veggies.

 Plenty of Tripe though.

Ode


At 12:34 PM 8/23/2008 -0700, you wrote:
Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from 
uninspected international countries with lower hygiene standards must 
destroy food enzymes and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot 
along with their profits. Or you could just buy local food and vote for 
politicians that would enforce our antitrust laws.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:p...@vif.comPeter Converse
To: mailto:jessi...@optonline.netjessie70 ; 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


Hi All,

Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately? 
We need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!



Blessings,

Peter
- Original Message -
From: mailto:jessi...@optonline.netjessie70
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


TRUE
-Original Message-
From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
To: mailto:jwilliams...@cfl.rr.comjwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; 
mailto:agman...@aol.comagman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron Sutton; 
mailto:dduf...@aol.comdduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; 
Jean Coker; Jim Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already 
happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need 
a wake up call now and then..




Think about this: If the FDA has its way:

Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
Â. All your children will be vaccinated
Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a crime!


(snip)


If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look at 
the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.




Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that claims 
to treat

Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-25 Thread Ode Coyote



  To unmix contexts.

Growers hybridize and use refrigerated transport to reduce spoilage. [You 
can't buy a tasty tomato in a store any more, they are bred to ship. 
Refrigerating tomatoes spoils them. ]


Irradiation is for germs on the surface to prevent massive recalls 
of  *not* spoiled foods.


 If it were spoiled, it would not have sold...people don't buy spoiled 
food and a lot of it does spoil and most gets thrown away before it 
does..go look in a store dumpster any day.


Irradiation only kills what's there now and doesn't stop what may get there 
to spoil the food later..like mold spoors that are everywhere and ethylene 
gas naturally emitted by the food as it ages.
 The bacteria DOESN'T spoil the food, it just makes it dangerous to 
eat.that's the problem. The buyers AND sellers can't tell, because,  it 
ISN'T spoiled.


 The more recent really big recalls due to bacterial contamination 
originated in the USA, not some foreign country with low standards.
That put several big businesses out of business, because their profits ARE 
marginal.


 The big money comes with big volume as does the big loss when that big 
volume gets recalled.


 Antitrust laws are for when one company controls the entire market.
 The food industry is by no means a monopoly.  There are thousands of 
companies, big and small.
The little ones roasted by a recall don't make headlines. The big ones make 
better more sensational targets.


ode


At 05:32 PM 8/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:


- Original Message -
From: mailto:dr...@earthlink.netJames McCourt, Ph.D.
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from 
uninspected international countries with lower hygiene standards must 
destroy food enzymes and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot 
along with their profits. Or you could just buy local food and vote for 
politicians that would enforce our antitrust laws.




I am for voting for our politicians who enforce our antitrust 
laws.  Perhaps Google would produce such a list.  Faith G.



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Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-25 Thread Clayton Family
Food spoils eventually, there are always problems and sometimes 
mistakes. When this happens, it is not always someone's fault.  As a 
nation, we need to get over it. Things happen, life is not without 
risk.  Once again, when the public, or significant interested parties, 
like a large business, demand a no risk situation, it leads to more 
regulation, more pesticides, which can lead to worse problems than the 
one they are meant to solve.  As Ode says, it is not always a foreign 
country with lax standards or no oversight.


Many of our small organic farmers were deeply hurt by the floods last 
year, probably all the small farmers.


I also read the other day some woman who said that hybridizing was the 
same as genetic engineering, which is a bald faced lie- she is a 
biologist, and works for GE, so I guess you could expect her to 
disseminate such disinformation, but it still angers me. When people 
such as she say such lies, it really muddies the issue for the lay 
reader. I really don't blame them for being so ignorant- one really 
must spend time to find out what is going on. It also does not hurt to 
have a good education, and to be taught to think for yourself- which is 
a fast disappearing quality in the schools, what with the push for 
national standards which by their very nature turn out test taking 
graduates, instead of people that can think independently.  sigh rant 
over for now.


Kathryn

On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:


  To unmix contexts.
Growers hybridize and use refrigerated transport to reduce spoilage. 
[You can't buy a tasty tomato in a store any more, they are bred to 
ship. Refrigerating tomatoes spoils them. ]  Irradiation is for germs 
on the surface to prevent massive recalls of  *not* spoiled foods.
If it were spoiled, it would not have sold...people don't buy spoiled 
food and a lot of it does spoil and most gets thrown away before it 
does..go look in a store dumpster any day.


Irradiation only kills what's there now and doesn't stop what may get 
there to spoil the food later..like mold spoors that are everywhere 
and ethylene gas naturally emitted by the food as it ages.   The 
bacteria DOESN'T spoil the food, it just makes it dangerous to 
eat.that's the problem. The buyers AND sellers can't tell, 
because,  it ISN'T spoiled.   The more recent really big recalls due 
to bacterial contamination originated in the USA, not some foreign 
country with low standards.
That put several big businesses out of business, because their profits 
ARE marginal.   The big money comes with big volume as does the big 
loss when that big volume gets recalled.


 Antitrust laws are for when one company controls the entire market.  
The food industry is by no means a monopoly.  There are thousands of 
companies, big and small.  The little ones roasted by a recall don't 
make headlines. The big ones make better more sensational targets.


ode


At 05:32 PM 8/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:


I am for voting for our politicians who enforce our antitrust laws.  
Perhaps Google would produce such a list.  Faith G.



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Re: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-24 Thread bbanever
Sadly, this is 100% true.  It has been a policy of the neocons for many years 
to sicken the population and prevent us from taking charge of our health.  The 
sicker we become, the more pharmaceuticals we will consume.  This is a 
conspiracy of Big Pharma and our government.  It is no longer a secret, they 
are openly defying our Constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit 
of happiness.  This is fascism, pure an simple... the marriage of 
multi-national corporations with government.   They want us to be slaves to 
their dangerous and ineffectual products, and they don't care if we die in the 
process.   

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: James McCourt, Ph.D. 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:34 PM
  Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce 
and Other Vegetables


  Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from uninspected 
international countries with lower hygiene standards must destroy food enzymes 
and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot along with their profits. Or 
you could just buy local food and vote for politicians that would enforce our 
antitrust laws.
- Original Message - 
From: Peter Converse 
To: jessie70 ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


Hi All,

Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately? We 
need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!


Blessings,

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: jessie70 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
  Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


  TRUE
-Original Message-
From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron 
Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim 
Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already 
happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a 
wake up call now and then..




Think about this: If the FDA has its way:


Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
Â. All your children will be vaccinated
Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become 
a crime! 


(snip)

If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just 
look at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.


Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that 
claims to treat or prevent any disease.
This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to 
be sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing 
foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling of 
herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent disease? The 
FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and irradiating the food 
supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.


  -- 

Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com


Re: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-24 Thread kmilkowski
Careful there Bob, you don't want to be labeled as paranoid do you??? it's 
too late for me!!! LOL

Kurt
 bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 Sadly, this is 100% true.  It has been a policy of the neocons for many years 
 to sicken the population and prevent us from taking charge of our health.  
 The sicker we become, the more pharmaceuticals we will consume.  This is a 
 conspiracy of Big Pharma and our government.  It is no longer a secret, they 
 are openly defying our Constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit 
 of happiness.  This is fascism, pure an simple... the marriage of 
 multi-national corporations with government.   They want us to be slaves to 
 their dangerous and ineffectual products, and they don't care if we die in 
 the process.   
 
 Bob
   - Original Message - 
   From: James McCourt, Ph.D. 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:34 PM
   Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, 
 Lettuce and Other Vegetables
 
 
   Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from 
 uninspected international countries with lower hygiene standards must destroy 
 food enzymes and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot along with 
 their profits. Or you could just buy local food and vote for politicians that 
 would enforce our antitrust laws.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Peter Converse 
 To: jessie70 ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:51 AM
 Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
 Other Vegetables
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately? 
 We need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!
 
 
 Blessings,
 
 Peter
   - Original Message - 
   From: jessie70 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
   Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
 Other Vegetables
 
 
   TRUE
 -Original Message-
 From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
 To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron 
 Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim 
 Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
 Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce 
 and Other Vegetables
 
 
 I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already 
 happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a 
 wake up call now and then..
 
 
 
 
 Think about this: If the FDA has its way:
 
 
 Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
 Â. All your children will be vaccinated
 Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
 Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
 Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be 
 outlawed
 Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will 
 become a crime! 
 
 
 (snip)
 
 If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then 
 just look at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.
 
 
 Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical 
 that claims to treat or prevent any disease.
 This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to 
 be sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing 
 foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling 
 of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent disease? 
 The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and irradiating the 
 food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.
 
 
   -- 
 
 Day Sutton
 day.sut...@gmail.com


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RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-24 Thread Carl Deb Charter
I enjoy reading Kurt's posts and find them enjoyable.  If the posts are
on the OT list, then there really shouldn't be a problem.  Also, it's
not just the neocons doing it to us, but the same old old cons as well
(just my 2 cents worth!! lol)
 
Deb

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach,
Lettuce and Other Vegetables


Sadly, this is 100% true.  It has been a policy of the neocons for many
years to sicken the population and prevent us from taking charge of our
health.  The sicker we become, the more pharmaceuticals we will consume.
This is a conspiracy of Big Pharma and our government.  It is no longer
a secret, they are openly defying our Constitutional right to life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  This is fascism, pure an
simple... the marriage of multi-national corporations with government.
They want us to be slaves to their dangerous and ineffectual products,
and they don't care if we die in the process.   
 
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: James  mailto:dr...@earthlink.net McCourt, Ph.D. 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach,
Lettuce and Other Vegetables

Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from
uninspected international countries with lower hygiene standards must
destroy food enzymes and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot
along with their profits. Or you could just buy local food and vote for
politicians that would enforce our antitrust laws.

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Converse mailto:p...@vif.com  
To: jessie70 mailto:jessi...@optonline.net  ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and
Other Vegetables

Hi All,
 
Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately?
We need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!
 
 
Blessings,
 
Peter

- Original Message - 
From: jessie70 mailto:jessi...@optonline.net  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and
Other Vegetables

TRUE

-Original Message-
From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron
Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim
Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and
Other Vegetables


I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already
happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we
need a wake up call now and then..





Think about this: If the FDA has its way:


Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
Â. All your children will be vaccinated
Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a
crime! 


(snip)

 

If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look
at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.

 


Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that
claims to treat or prevent any disease.
This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be
sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing
foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the
selling of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and
prevent disease? The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated,
and irradiating the food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.



-- 


Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com




RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-24 Thread kmilkowski
Thanks Deb! :)

 Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net wrote: 
 I enjoy reading Kurt's posts and find them enjoyable.  If the posts are
 on the OT list, then there really shouldn't be a problem.  Also, it's
 not just the neocons doing it to us, but the same old old cons as well
 (just my 2 cents worth!! lol)
  
 Deb
 
 -Original Message-
 From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:53 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach,
 Lettuce and Other Vegetables
 
 
 Sadly, this is 100% true.  It has been a policy of the neocons for many
 years to sicken the population and prevent us from taking charge of our
 health.  The sicker we become, the more pharmaceuticals we will consume.
 This is a conspiracy of Big Pharma and our government.  It is no longer
 a secret, they are openly defying our Constitutional right to life,
 liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  This is fascism, pure an
 simple... the marriage of multi-national corporations with government.
 They want us to be slaves to their dangerous and ineffectual products,
 and they don't care if we die in the process.   
  
 Bob
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: James  mailto:dr...@earthlink.net McCourt, Ph.D. 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:34 PM
 Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach,
 Lettuce and Other Vegetables
 
 Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from
 uninspected international countries with lower hygiene standards must
 destroy food enzymes and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot
 along with their profits. Or you could just buy local food and vote for
 politicians that would enforce our antitrust laws.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Peter Converse mailto:p...@vif.com  
 To: jessie70 mailto:jessi...@optonline.net  ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:51 AM
 Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and
 Other Vegetables
 
 Hi All,
  
 Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately?
 We need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!
  
  
 Blessings,
  
 Peter
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: jessie70 mailto:jessi...@optonline.net  
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
 Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and
 Other Vegetables
 
 TRUE
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
 To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron
 Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim
 Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
 Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and
 Other Vegetables
 
 
 I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already
 happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we
 need a wake up call now and then..
 
 
 
 
 
 Think about this: If the FDA has its way:
 
 
 Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
 Â. All your children will be vaccinated
 Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
 Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
 Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
 Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a
 crime! 
 
 
 (snip)
 
  
 
 If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look
 at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.
 
  
 
 
 Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that
 claims to treat or prevent any disease.
 This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be
 sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing
 foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the
 selling of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and
 prevent disease? The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated,
 and irradiating the food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 
 Day Sutton
 day.sut...@gmail.com
 
 


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RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-24 Thread Terry
I find them repetitious.

-Original Message-
From: Carl Deb Charter [mailto:carl...@charter.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach,
Lettuce and Other Vegetables


I enjoy reading Kurt's posts and find them enjoyable.  If the posts are on
the OT list, then there really shouldn't be a problem.  Also, it's not just
the neocons doing it to us, but the same old old cons as well (just my 2
cents worth!! lol)
 
Deb

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach,
Lettuce and Other Vegetables


Sadly, this is 100% true.  It has been a policy of the neocons for many
years to sicken the population and prevent us from taking charge of our
health.  The sicker we become, the more pharmaceuticals we will consume.
This is a conspiracy of Big Pharma and our government.  It is no longer a
secret, they are openly defying our Constitutional right to life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness.  This is fascism, pure an simple... the
marriage of multi-national corporations with government.   They want us to
be slaves to their dangerous and ineffectual products, and they don't care
if we die in the process.   
 
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: James  mailto:dr...@earthlink.net McCourt, Ph.D. 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce
and Other Vegetables

Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from uninspected
international countries with lower hygiene standards must destroy food
enzymes and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot along with their
profits. Or you could just buy local food and vote for politicians that
would enforce our antitrust laws.

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Converse mailto:p...@vif.com  
To: jessie70 mailto:jessi...@optonline.net  ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other
Vegetables

Hi All,
 
Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately? We
need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!
 
 
Blessings,
 
Peter

- Original Message - 
From: jessie70 mailto:jessi...@optonline.net  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other
Vegetables

TRUE

-Original Message-
From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron Sutton;
dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim Collins;
Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other
Vegetables


I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already happening.
Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a wake up call
now and then..





Think about this: If the FDA has its way:


Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
Â. All your children will be vaccinated
Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a crime!



(snip)

 

If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look at
the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.

 


Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that claims
to treat or prevent any disease.
This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be
sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing
foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling
of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent
disease? The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and
irradiating the food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.



-- 


Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com




RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-23 Thread Ode Coyote



  Partly true with enormous case by case qualifications and conflicts in 
intent.

Ode


At 06:24 PM 8/22/2008 -0400, you wrote:

TRUE
-Original Message-
From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron 
Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim 
Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already 
happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need 
a wake up call now and then..




Think about this: If the FDA has its way:

Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
Â. All your children will be vaccinated
Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a crime!


(snip)


If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look at 
the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.




Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that claims 
to treat or prevent any disease.
This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be 
sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing 
foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the 
selling of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and 
prevent disease? The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and 
irradiating the food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.


--

Day Sutton
mailto:day.sut...@gmail.comday.sut...@gmail.com


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Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-23 Thread Peter Converse
Hi All,

Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately? We 
need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!


Blessings,

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: jessie70 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
  Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other 
Vegetables


  TRUE
-Original Message-
From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron Sutton; 
dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim Collins; Lisa 
Ellis; Silver Post
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already 
happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a 
wake up call now and then..




Think about this: If the FDA has its way:


Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
Â. All your children will be vaccinated
Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a 
crime! 


(snip)

If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look 
at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.


Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that 
claims to treat or prevent any disease.
This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be 
sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing foods 
like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling of herbs 
and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent disease? The FDA 
wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and irradiating the food supply 
is the quickest way to accomplish that.


  -- 

Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com


Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-23 Thread Clayton Family
I unsubbed to the OT list so I would not have to deal with this kind of 
thing.



On Aug 22, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Day Sutton wrote:

I'll subscribe again (possible for the 3rd time)  I keep forgetting to 
look at it.  I would miss so much like this.   The OT has so much 
squabble that I can't keep looking at it..





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Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-23 Thread kmilkowski
Thanks Peter!

I know you don't get to see this information on tv or read it in the doctors 
office, but at least you can read it here and make your own decision. I figured 
people here were tired of letting other people make thier decisions for them, 
that's why they're here?? The subject is always clearly marked, so if it 
doesn't look to be of interest, delete.

Kurt
 Peter Converse p...@vif.com wrote: 
 Hi All,
 
 Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately? We 
 need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!
 
 
 Blessings,
 
 Peter
   - Original Message - 
   From: jessie70 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
   Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
 Other Vegetables
 
 
   TRUE
 -Original Message-
 From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
 To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron 
 Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim 
 Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
 Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
 Other Vegetables
 
 
 I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already 
 happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a 
 wake up call now and then..
 
 
 
 
 Think about this: If the FDA has its way:
 
 
 Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
 Â. All your children will be vaccinated
 Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
 Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
 Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
 Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a 
 crime! 
 
 
 (snip)
 
 If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just 
 look at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.
 
 
 Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that 
 claims to treat or prevent any disease.
 This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be 
 sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing 
 foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling 
 of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent disease? 
 The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and irradiating the 
 food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.
 
 
   -- 
 
 Day Sutton
 day.sut...@gmail.com


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Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-23 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from uninspected 
international countries with lower hygiene standards must destroy food enzymes 
and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot along with their profits. Or 
you could just buy local food and vote for politicians that would enforce our 
antitrust laws.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Converse 
  To: jessie70 ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other 
Vegetables


  Hi All,

  Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately? We 
need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!


  Blessings,

  Peter
- Original Message - 
From: jessie70 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


TRUE
  -Original Message-
  From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
  To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron 
Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim 
Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
  Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and 
Other Vegetables


  I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already 
happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a 
wake up call now and then..




  Think about this: If the FDA has its way:


  Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
  Â. All your children will be vaccinated
  Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
  Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
  Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
  Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a 
crime! 


  (snip)

  If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just 
look at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.


  Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that 
claims to treat or prevent any disease.
  This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be 
sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing foods 
like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling of herbs 
and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent disease? The FDA 
wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and irradiating the food supply 
is the quickest way to accomplish that.


-- 

  Day Sutton
  day.sut...@gmail.com


Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-23 Thread Faith Gagne

  - Original Message - 
  From: James McCourt, Ph.D. 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other 
Vegetables


  Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from uninspected 
international countries with lower hygiene standards must destroy food enzymes 
and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot along with their profits. Or 
you could just buy local food and vote for politicians that would enforce our 
antitrust laws.
  


  I am for voting for our politicians who enforce our antitrust laws.  Perhaps 
Google would produce such a list.  Faith G.

Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-23 Thread Faith Gagne

  - Original Message - 
  From: James McCourt, Ph.D. 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other 
Vegetables


  Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from uninspected 
international countries with lower hygiene standards must destroy food enzymes 
and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot along with their profits. Or 
you could just buy local food and vote for politicians that would enforce our 
antitrust laws.

  .


  I googled it and here are some of the articles I found.  None of them seem to 
be good news.  Faith G.

  The Sherman Anti-Trust Law is Evil
  American Way of Life
  The Corporate Media
  The Problems of Privatization
  Techdirt: Shocker: Politicians Play Politics With Antitrust Law
  Antitrust posts - Politics and Law - CNET News.com
  Do Antitrust Laws Preserve Competition?| The Foundation for ...

Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-22 Thread David Bearrow
I'm seriously considering unsubscribing from this 
list due to paranoid delusionary posts such as 
this one which have nothing to do with the topic 
of colloidal silver. Its not even cleverly done 
by offering cs as an alternative antibacterial 
spray. This post is about manipulating emotion. 
It states a bunch of hypothesis as facts and 
offers nothing to back it up. This post is 
typical of kmilkowski's posts. Paranoid 
conspiracy off topic posts which divide the list 
and lead to more off topic posting. Its terribly 
distracting and its going to drive me away.


David

At 11:56 AM 8/22/2008, you wrote:
FDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, 
Lettuce and Other Vegetables  Mike Adams, Aug 22, 2008


The FDA has announced that beginning today, 
spinach and lettuce sold across the United 
States may now be secretly irradiated before it 
reaches grocery store shelves. What's secret 
about it? The FDA previously decided that 
irradiation warning stickers would not be 
required on any food items because it would be 
too confusing to consumers. (The word 
IRRADIATION apparently has too many letters to 
be understood to food buyers.) Thus, irradiated 
foods will not be labeled as such, and consumers 
are going to be left in the dark about all this 
(except for those who actually eat the 
irradiated food, in which case they will glow in the dark).


The FDA, of course, insists that the levels of 
irradiation used to kill e.coli will have no 
effect whatsoever on the nutritional value of 
the food. This astonishing statement comes from 
an agency that doesn't believe food has any 
nutritional value in the first place, so 
lowering the value to zero by destroying all the 
phytonutrients does not, in the opinion of the 
FDA, alter its nutritional value at all. Thus, 
destroying all the anti-cancer nutrients in a 
head of broccoli merely brings that broccoli 
into compliance as a non-functional food, according to the FDA.


Radiation, of course, destroys delicate 
phytochemicals in plants -- the very 
phytochemicals protecting consumers against 
cancer, heart disease, high cholesterol, 
inflammation and other diseases. Microwaving 
broccoli, for example, destroys up to 98% of its 
anti-cancer nutrients. (The FDA has not yet 
acknowledged this scientific fact, either.) In a 
similar way, irradiating food destroys much of 
its nutritional content, including vitamins, 
carotenoids, anthocyanins and other delicate 
protective nutrients that are right now 
providing the last, desperate nutritional 
defense against the American diet of meat, milk, 
fried foods and processed junk.


Irradiating fresh produce will leave the U.S. 
Population is a state of extreme deficiency in 
protective plant-based nutrients.



Does the FDA plan to destroy the health of the U.S. Population?
Many people suspect that's what the FDA really 
wants. A nutritionally-deficient, disease-ridden 
population would mean a windfall of profits for 
the FDA's buddies in Big Pharma -- the folks who 
sell patented medications at monopoly prices. 
With the food supply destroyed by radiation, 
ordinary people would have virtually no 
remaining sources of protective phytonutrients!


In promoting this food radiation policy, the FDA 
has accomplished what all the terrorists in the 
world could not: The mass irradiation of the 
U.S. Food supply -- much like setting off a 
dirty bomb over the nation's farms (but with 
less radiation). This destruction of the 
nutritional value of the food supply is a far 
greater threat to the health of the U.S. 
Population than any terrorist event, including 
9/11. And yet it is being done by our own 
people, TO our own people, by a lawless agency 
that answers to no one. FDA officials are not 
voted into office by the People; they are 
appointed by politicians. They answer to no one, 
they refuse to follow federal law, and they 
operate as tyrants over a quarter of the U.S. Economy.


And now they have taken it upon themselves to 
destroy the national food supply.


We should be more than just alarmed -- we should 
be outraged! The FDA has committed an act of war 
against the People. With this decision, the FDA 
has firmly positioned itself as an enemy of the 
People, and a bringer of death and disease to 
the nation. Why are our elected representatives 
in Washington allowing this madness?


Think about this: If the FDA has its way:

• All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
• All your children will be vaccinated
• All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
• All your free speech about health will be suppressed
• All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
• Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a crime!


Today it's spinach and lettuce; tomorrow it's all fresh produce
Don't think the FDA will stop with spinach and 
lettuce, either. They're already talking about 
irradiating tomatoes, peppers and onions. Before 
long, radiation could become 

Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-22 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:47 PM, David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net wrote:

 I'm seriously considering unsubscribing from this list due to paranoid
 delusionary posts such as this one which have nothing to do with the topic
 of colloidal silver.


I have to admit I was trying to persuade a friend of mine about the benefits
of CS. He had a look at the posts on my compter as he had a few questions.
Unfortunately it was just as a few of kmilkowski's posts came in about the
goverment deliberately killing everyone off etc. He concluded that if this
was the type of person whp posted to the list then we were nothing but a
bunch of crackpot conspiracy theorists and he wanted nothing to do with CS.

You can say it's his loss but it is hard to persuade people about the
credibility of CS when they see so many posts like these.

Kirsteen


Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-22 Thread T. J. Garland
Sometimes I wonder if I am paranoid enough---
Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. --G.B. Shaw
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:58 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other 
Vegetables





  On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:47 PM, David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net wrote:

I'm seriously considering unsubscribing from this list due to paranoid 
delusionary posts such as this one which have nothing to do with the topic of 
colloidal silver. 

  I have to admit I was trying to persuade a friend of mine about the benefits 
of CS. He had a look at the posts on my compter as he had a few questions. 
Unfortunately it was just as a few of kmilkowski's posts came in about the 
goverment deliberately killing everyone off etc. He concluded that if this was 
the type of person whp posted to the list then we were nothing but a bunch of 
crackpot conspiracy theorists and he wanted nothing to do with CS.

  You can say it's his loss but it is hard to persuade people about the 
credibility of CS when they see so many posts like these.

  Kirsteen

Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-22 Thread Arnold Beland

David,
Why not simply set up your mail system so that his posts will be 
automatically deleted?
- Original Message - 
From: David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other 
Vegetables



I'm seriously considering unsubscribing from this
list due to paranoid delusionary posts such as
this one which have nothing to do with the topic
of colloidal silver. Its not even cleverly done
by offering cs as an alternative antibacterial
spray. This post is about manipulating emotion.
It states a bunch of hypothesis as facts and
offers nothing to back it up. This post is
typical of kmilkowski's posts. Paranoid
conspiracy off topic posts which divide the list
and lead to more off topic posting. Its terribly
distracting and its going to drive me away.

David

At 11:56 AM 8/22/2008, you wrote:
FDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables 
Mike Adams, Aug 22, 2008


The FDA has announced that beginning today, spinach and lettuce sold across 
the United States may now be secretly irradiated before it reaches grocery 
store shelves. What's secret about it? The FDA previously decided that 
irradiation warning stickers would not be required on any food items 
because it would be too confusing to consumers. (The word IRRADIATION 
apparently has too many letters to be understood to food buyers.) Thus, 
irradiated foods will not be labeled as such, and consumers are going to be 
left in the dark about all this (except for those who actually eat the 
irradiated food, in which case they will glow in the dark).


The FDA, of course, insists that the levels of irradiation used to kill 
e.coli will have no effect whatsoever on the nutritional value of the food. 
This astonishing statement comes from an agency that doesn't believe food 
has any nutritional value in the first place, so lowering the value to zero 
by destroying all the phytonutrients does not, in the opinion of the FDA, 
alter its nutritional value at all. Thus, destroying all the anti-cancer 
nutrients in a head of broccoli merely brings that broccoli into 
compliance as a non-functional food, according to the FDA.


Radiation, of course, destroys delicate phytochemicals in plants -- the 
very phytochemicals protecting consumers against cancer, heart disease, 
high cholesterol, inflammation and other diseases. Microwaving broccoli, 
for example, destroys up to 98% of its anti-cancer nutrients. (The FDA has 
not yet acknowledged this scientific fact, either.) In a similar way, 
irradiating food destroys much of its nutritional content, including 
vitamins, carotenoids, anthocyanins and other delicate protective nutrients 
that are right now providing the last, desperate nutritional defense 
against the American diet of meat, milk, fried foods and processed junk.


Irradiating fresh produce will leave the U.S. Population is a state of 
extreme deficiency in protective plant-based nutrients.



Does the FDA plan to destroy the health of the U.S. Population?
Many people suspect that's what the FDA really wants. A 
nutritionally-deficient, disease-ridden population would mean a windfall of 
profits for the FDA's buddies in Big Pharma -- the folks who sell patented 
medications at monopoly prices. With the food supply destroyed by 
radiation, ordinary people would have virtually no remaining sources of 
protective phytonutrients!


In promoting this food radiation policy, the FDA has accomplished what all 
the terrorists in the world could not: The mass irradiation of the U.S. 
Food supply -- much like setting off a dirty bomb over the nation's farms 
(but with less radiation). This destruction of the nutritional value of the 
food supply is a far greater threat to the health of the U.S. Population 
than any terrorist event, including 9/11. And yet it is being done by our 
own people, TO our own people, by a lawless agency that answers to no one. 
FDA officials are not voted into office by the People; they are appointed 
by politicians. They answer to no one, they refuse to follow federal law, 
and they operate as tyrants over a quarter of the U.S. Economy.


And now they have taken it upon themselves to destroy the national food 
supply.


We should be more than just alarmed -- we should be outraged! The FDA has 
committed an act of war against the People. With this decision, the FDA has 
firmly positioned itself as an enemy of the People, and a bringer of death 
and disease to the nation. Why are our elected representatives in 
Washington allowing this madness?


Think about this: If the FDA has its way:

Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
Â. All your children will be vaccinated
Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
Â. Growing and selling non

Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-22 Thread Day Sutton
I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already
happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a
wake up call now and then..



 Think about this: If the FDA has its way:

 Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
 Â. All your children will be vaccinated
 Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
 Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
 Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
 Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a
 crime!


 (snip)



 If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look at
 the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.




 Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that claims
 to treat or prevent any disease.
 This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be
 sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing
 foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling
 of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent
 disease? The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and
 irradiating the food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.

 --

Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com


Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-22 Thread Hanneke

At 07:37 AM 23/08/2008, you wrote:

I think we need a wake up call now and then..



for the wake up call..  I agree,  and that's where the Off-Topic 
List comes in.


Subscribe to it, please please.  You won't be receiving too many more 
emails than you do now  but at least it would keep the main list on 
CS   clean and on topic, and not send potential new CS people  away.


Hanneke




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RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-22 Thread jessie70
TRUE
  -Original Message-
  From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
  To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron
Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim
Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
  Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and
Other Vegetables


  I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already
happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a
wake up call now and then..




  Think about this: If the FDA has its way:


  Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
  Â. All your children will be vaccinated
  Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
  Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
  Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
  Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a
crime!


  (snip)

  If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just
look at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.


  Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that
claims to treat or prevent any disease.
  This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be
sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing
foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling
of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent
disease? The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and
irradiating the food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.


--

  Day Sutton
  day.sut...@gmail.com


Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-22 Thread Day Sutton
I'll subscribe again (possible for the 3rd time)  I keep forgetting to look
at it.  I would miss so much like this.   The OT has so much squabble that I
can't keep looking at it..

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:24 PM, jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote:

  TRUE

 -Original Message-
 *From:* Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
 *To:* jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron
 Sutton; dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim
 Collins; Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
 *Subject:* Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and
 Other Vegetables

 I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already
 happening.  Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a
 wake up call now and then..



 Think about this: If the FDA has its way:

 Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
 Â. All your children will be vaccinated
 Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
 Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
 Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
 Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a
 crime!


 (snip)



  If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look
 at the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.




 Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that
 claims to treat or prevent any disease.
 This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be
 sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing
 foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling
 of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent
 disease? The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and
 irradiating the food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.

 --

 Day Sutton
 day.sut...@gmail.com




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