Re: CSList action

2014-02-24 Thread 123 456
Yes my vote  is for email too...list here  is great as it  is.
I'm  recently researching  sources of various stem cell therapy
clinics as well as seriously contemplating going vegan.
Watched a brief  youtube vid  about  a  70  year old  woman who  looks 30.
If  I can  copy over  the link  I will.
Be well all.
Tara

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Re: CSList action

2014-02-22 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Hi Mike,

I believe it is because our emails are not so easily accessible to the
general public. The simple barriers of an email list are enough to keep out
the vast majority of would-be trouble makers, because in the 'information
age' there are ever increasing volumes of low hanging fruit that can be
targeted easier than this list.

Another issue is anonymity. Using aliases, avatars, etc. was a great way to
protect ourselves online, and still is. However, establishing anonymity is
a technical / convenience barrier for some participants. IMHO email lists
such as this provide a similar feeling and/or function with less hassle.
Thus it encourages more free speech, sharing, etc.

Unfortunately the shield of anonymity is being aggressively attacked by
 Google, Facebook, and others, as they seek to exploit our identities and
activities for monetary gain. Google's attempts are especially devious.
Apple is perhaps the only company that aggressively protects our
identities, and they are under constant pressure from advertisers,
investors, and developers to release more information. In any case, these
email lists remain outside the scope of those happenings.

I use various forms of communication, and I think they are all helpful in
some way. We need to get this info out to the world, and we also need a
safe and easy way to discuss it.

Thanks for your efforts.



On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Victor wrote:
  I don't participate much, but I feel the email groups are necessary to
  protect people from prosecution, trolling, etc. A sad statement to be
  sure.

 I'm curious, Victor, in what way you believe the e-mail format protect
 us? Particularly since we do have a web-accessible archive?

 Thank you for your thoughts.

 Be well,

 Mike D.




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Re: CSList action

2014-02-22 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Ah, sorry, I wanted to add a few thoughts and address your question more
directly...

Another advantage to this email list is the size of the community - it is
small enough to be effectively moderated.

If you look at something like Amazon, which has a fantastic community with
volumes of rich feedback from anonymous users, you might think it is
perfect. However, you should be aware that many companies hire people to
post false comments, and engage in ongoing false conversations. Yes, it is
absolutely false advertising. There is an entire industry of companies that
provide this 'service' to larger corporations as 'Image Management' or some
such other nonsense. Sadly, this blatantly unethical behavior is very
effective and thus wide spread. It is not only on Amazon. Luckily, there
are legislative efforts underway to combat this. Although actually
enforcing it is another matter. So be careful of what you read on customer
reviews. Still a great source though.

The wide open Internet is the same way. They try to discredit or discourage
the use of CS, and as popularity increases, others pollute the Internet
with false products and false claims, which will slowly lead people to have
bad experiences with bogus products, and thus ultimately discredit CS as a
whole. Or make it illegal. Or make it require a prescription. Or make it
cost prohibitive. This doesn't happen within the email list because of our
ability to maintain effective moderation.

The archives are not much of a vulnerability because they are not
interactive like a forum or other such medium. Sure, our information can be
found, but it is easy to hide or deny our identity if we want, and it is
too troublesome for outsiders to intervene in our conversations due to the
effective moderation.

Sorry if my responses were too long ;-) I have an IT business and am
somewhat passionate about social engineering and sociology in general :-)
There is even more I would say on this topic, but I probably said more than
enough already lol  I'm just glad this email list exists :-)


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Victor wrote:
  I don't participate much, but I feel the email groups are necessary to
  protect people from prosecution, trolling, etc. A sad statement to be
  sure.

 I'm curious, Victor, in what way you believe the e-mail format protect
 us? Particularly since we do have a web-accessible archive?

 Thank you for your thoughts.

 Be well,

 Mike D.




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Re: CSList action

2014-02-22 Thread Diana Clock
Email for me
We use silver all the time
Introduced to it from our LLMD and used with our dp100 for lyme

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Ah, sorry, I wanted to add a few thoughts and address your question more 
 directly... 
 
 Another advantage to this email list is the size of the community - it is 
 small enough to be effectively moderated.
 
 If you look at something like Amazon, which has a fantastic community with 
 volumes of rich feedback from anonymous users, you might think it is perfect. 
 However, you should be aware that many companies hire people to post false 
 comments, and engage in ongoing false conversations. Yes, it is absolutely 
 false advertising. There is an entire industry of companies that provide this 
 'service' to larger corporations as 'Image Management' or some such other 
 nonsense. Sadly, this blatantly unethical behavior is very effective and thus 
 wide spread. It is not only on Amazon. Luckily, there are legislative efforts 
 underway to combat this. Although actually enforcing it is another matter. So 
 be careful of what you read on customer reviews. Still a great source though.
 
 The wide open Internet is the same way. They try to discredit or discourage 
 the use of CS, and as popularity increases, others pollute the Internet with 
 false products and false claims, which will slowly lead people to have bad 
 experiences with bogus products, and thus ultimately discredit CS as a whole. 
 Or make it illegal. Or make it require a prescription. Or make it cost 
 prohibitive. This doesn't happen within the email list because of our ability 
 to maintain effective moderation.
 
 The archives are not much of a vulnerability because they are not interactive 
 like a forum or other such medium. Sure, our information can be found, but it 
 is easy to hide or deny our identity if we want, and it is too troublesome 
 for outsiders to intervene in our conversations due to the effective 
 moderation.
 
 Sorry if my responses were too long ;-) I have an IT business and am somewhat 
 passionate about social engineering and sociology in general :-) There is 
 even more I would say on this topic, but I probably said more than enough 
 already lol  I'm just glad this email list exists :-)
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:
 Victor wrote:
  I don't participate much, but I feel the email groups are necessary to
  protect people from prosecution, trolling, etc. A sad statement to be
  sure.
 
 I'm curious, Victor, in what way you believe the e-mail format protect
 us? Particularly since we do have a web-accessible archive?
 
 Thank you for your thoughts.
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
 
 
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RE: CSList action

2014-02-22 Thread craehow...@juno.com
I'm FOR EMAIL

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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread M.G. Devour
Gary wrote:
 Probably all the krud and weather. Thannk God for CS we haven't had
 the flu for years since taking it!!! And all your in puts.

Well, we do have members from the southern hemisphere, so for some of us
it's high summer! --waves from atop a 4 foot pile of snow.

I am curious, though, if those of you who are regulars here have sorted
out your health issues enough that there's not much for you to say, or
if you've found other venues for support? Where?

I remember seeing a link here and visiting briefly a forum on CS topics
that looked like it was doing reasonably well. Anybody have that link
handy so I can visit it again?

Another aspect of this: Is there anybody here whose internet connection
is still so slow or expensive that they wouldn't be able to handle
visiting a forum, rather than receiving e-mails?

Be well,

Mike D.




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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Mike!

Other venues of support -- I am a member of the magnetic therapy group, use 
magnets myself, and find that they help me a great deal.

I find that most email groups have become very slow.  I don't know if it's the 
weather (too cold, too hot, too something) -- or if these internet groups are 
slowly being replaced by Facebook and Twitter.  My own equine CS group is 
practically defunct.  All of the horse lists that I'm on are quiet.  I would 
expect lists to be slow in the summer when people spend more time out of doors, 
rather than in the winter when they're cooped up in the house.

I would have no problem handling a forum, rather than email.
MA




  


 
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1. Avoid giving your or anyone else's email address to any web site.
2. Instead of forwarding email, cut and paste the text.
3. For group emails, use the bcc: (Blind Carbon Copy) field instead of to:.
(Put your own address or a fake address in the to: field).
4. Want to do more? Attach this text as a custom signature to the bottom of all 
your outgoing email.





 From: M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: CSList action
 

Gary wrote:
 Probably all the krud and weather. Thannk God for CS we haven't had
 the flu for years since taking it!!! And all your in puts.

Well, we do have members from the southern hemisphere, so for some of us
it's high summer! --waves from atop a 4 foot pile of snow.

I am curious, though, if those of you who are regulars here have sorted
out your health issues enough that there's not much for you to say, or
if you've found other venues for support? Where?

I remember seeing a link here and visiting briefly a forum on CS topics
that looked like it was doing reasonably well. Anybody have that link
handy so I can visit it again?

Another aspect of this: Is there anybody here whose internet connection
is still so slow or expensive that they wouldn't be able to handle
visiting a forum, rather than receiving e-mails?

Be well,

Mike D.




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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread PT Ferrance
Perhaps people are busy with the Olympics?
PT





 From: M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: CSList action
 

Gary wrote:
 Probably all the krud and weather. Thannk God for CS we haven't had
 the flu for years since taking it!!! And all your in puts.

Well, we do have members from the southern hemisphere, so for some of us
it's high summer! --waves from atop a 4 foot pile of snow.

I am curious, though, if those of you who are regulars here have sorted
out your health issues enough that there's not much for you to say, or
if you've found other venues for support? Where?

I remember seeing a link here and visiting briefly a forum on CS topics
that looked like it was doing reasonably well. Anybody have that link
handy so I can visit it again?

Another aspect of this: Is there anybody here whose internet connection
is still so slow or expensive that they wouldn't be able to handle
visiting a forum, rather than receiving e-mails?

Be well,

Mike D.




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RE: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread Scott Adams
Mike,

I have broadband but still prefer the email route. That way I always see all
traffic as it comes into a folder I set aside for it. If you guys were on a
forum I am not sure I would remember to visit it.


Scott Adams
I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet!
www.lyme-resource.com 


 -Original Message-
 From: M.G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:57 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSList action
 
 Gary wrote:
  Probably all the krud and weather. Thannk God for CS we haven't had
  the flu for years since taking it!!! And all your in puts.
 
 Well, we do have members from the southern hemisphere, so for some of
 us it's high summer! --waves from atop a 4 foot pile of snow.
 
 I am curious, though, if those of you who are regulars here have sorted
out
 your health issues enough that there's not much for you to say, or if
you've
 found other venues for support? Where?
 
 I remember seeing a link here and visiting briefly a forum on CS topics
that
 looked like it was doing reasonably well. Anybody have that link handy so
I
 can visit it again?
 
 Another aspect of this: Is there anybody here whose internet connection is
 still so slow or expensive that they wouldn't be able to handle visiting a
 forum, rather than receiving e-mails?
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
 
 
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RE: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread Scott Adams
My Lyme Rife Yahoo group is still fairly active as are other Lyme yahoo
groups. 

 

Scott

 

From: MaryAnn Helland [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSList action

 

Hi Mike!

 

Other venues of support -- I am a member of the magnetic therapy group, use
magnets myself, and find that they help me a great deal.

 

I find that most email groups have become very slow.  I don't know if it's
the weather (too cold, too hot, too something) -- or if these internet
groups are slowly being replaced by Facebook and Twitter.  My own equine CS
group is practically defunct.  All of the horse lists that I'm on are quiet.
I would expect lists to be slow in the summer when people spend more time
out of doors, rather than in the winter when they're cooped up in the house.

 

I would have no problem handling a forum, rather than email.

MA

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

Tips to keep private email addresses out of the hands of spammers:
1. Avoid giving your or anyone else's email address to any web site.
2. Instead of forwarding email, cut and paste the text.
3. For group emails, use the bcc: (Blind Carbon Copy) field instead of
to:.
(Put your own address or a fake address in the to: field).
4. Want to do more? Attach this text as a custom signature to the bottom of
all your outgoing email.

 


  _  


From: M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: CSList action


Gary wrote:
 Probably all the krud and weather. Thannk God for CS we haven't had
 the flu for years since taking it!!! And all your in puts.

Well, we do have members from the southern hemisphere, so for some of us
it's high summer! --waves from atop a 4 foot pile of snow.

I am curious, though, if those of you who are regulars here have sorted
out your health issues enough that there's not much for you to say, or
if you've found other venues for support? Where?

I remember seeing a link here and visiting briefly a forum on CS topics
that looked like it was doing reasonably well. Anybody have that link
handy so I can visit it again?

Another aspect of this: Is there anybody here whose internet connection
is still so slow or expensive that they wouldn't be able to handle
visiting a forum, rather than receiving e-mails?

Be well,

Mike D.




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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread Teri

Hi Mike,

In all honesty I hate forums.  Love my email lists.  As for sorting 
out health issues.  I originally joined to learn about how CS could 
help my husband back in 2004.  But have so enjoyed being a list 
member with all the knowledge among other list members this list is 
very valuable to me.


Teri


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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread Alan Faulkner
I'm the opposite I like forums as things are searchable. Lists tend to be 
chatty, so you get endless chatter. However I chat also. It is just a time 
factor.

Al


On 2014-02-21, at 08:04 AM, Teri wrote:

Hi Mike,

In all honesty I hate forums.  Love my email lists.  As for sorting out health 
issues.  I originally joined to learn about how CS could help my husband back 
in 2004.  But have so enjoyed being a list member with all the knowledge among 
other list members this list is very valuable to me.

Teri


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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread Victor Cozzetto
I don't participate much, but I feel the email groups are necessary to
protect people from prosecution, trolling, etc. A sad statement to be sure.
I also appreciate having various email groups available as a source of
reference, education, testimony, and moral support.

I feel fully self sufficient (and practically immortal ;-) with the
knowledge and tools provided to me by the Beck Protocol and the Weston
Price foundation (helps me keep a grasp on proper nutrition). But
influencing family and friends is a far greater challenge than maintaining
my own health. As they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can't
make it drink. Any resource such as this email group is helpful in
promoting the 'truth' about our health and healthcare.

As for my experiences, I am currently having great success in treating
cavities, diabetes, cancer, gulf war syndrome, and other undiagnosed
ailments in various family members. A time of unusual crises - and
healing in my family. I actually have 6 silverpuppy machines distributed
among my family. And yet others still choose chemo :-(

I could post more specific details of my experiences if someone was
interested.


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:25 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 Hi Mike!

 Other venues of support -- I am a member of the magnetic therapy group,
 use magnets myself, and find that they help me a great deal.

 I find that most email groups have become very slow.  I don't know if it's
 the weather (too cold, too hot, too something) -- or if these internet
 groups are slowly being replaced by Facebook and Twitter.  My own equine CS
 group is practically defunct.  All of the horse lists that I'm on are
 quiet.  I would expect lists to be slow in the summer when people spend
 more time out of doors, rather than in the winter when they're cooped up in
 the house.

 I would have no problem handling a forum, rather than email.
 MA








 Tips to keep private email addresses out of the hands of spammers:
 1. Avoid giving your or anyone else's email address to any web site.
 2. Instead of forwarding email, cut and paste the text.
 3. For group emails, use the bcc: (Blind Carbon Copy) field instead of
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 (Put your own address or a fake address in the to: field).
 4. Want to do more? Attach this text as a custom signature to the bottom
 of all your outgoing email.

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  *From:* M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2014 7:57 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSList action

 Gary wrote:
  Probably all the krud and weather. Thannk God for CS we haven't had
  the flu for years since taking it!!! And all your in puts.

 Well, we do have members from the southern hemisphere, so for some of us
 it's high summer! --waves from atop a 4 foot pile of snow.

 I am curious, though, if those of you who are regulars here have sorted
 out your health issues enough that there's not much for you to say, or
 if you've found other venues for support? Where?

 I remember seeing a link here and visiting briefly a forum on CS topics
 that looked like it was doing reasonably well. Anybody have that link
 handy so I can visit it again?

 Another aspect of this: Is there anybody here whose internet connection
 is still so slow or expensive that they wouldn't be able to handle
 visiting a forum, rather than receiving e-mails?

 Be well,

 Mike D.




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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread Beth Toraason
I'll stay with the group however it evolves.  What I've learned from you all 
has been invaluable - if not life saving.
Beth T
On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Teri wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 In all honesty I hate forums.  Love my email lists.  As for sorting out 
 health issues.  I originally joined to learn about how CS could help my 
 husband back in 2004.  But have so enjoyed being a list member with all the 
 knowledge among other list members this list is very valuable to me.
 
 Teri
 
 
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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread slickpicker
Mike:

I would prefer receiving emails. I have good internet speed but I doubt I would 
visit a forum.

Thanks,
Terry 

 M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Gary wrote:
 Probably all the krud and weather. Thannk God for CS we haven't had
 the flu for years since taking it!!! And all your in puts.

Well, we do have members from the southern hemisphere, so for some of us
it's high summer! --waves from atop a 4 foot pile of snow.

I am curious, though, if those of you who are regulars here have sorted
out your health issues enough that there's not much for you to say, or
if you've found other venues for support? Where?

I remember seeing a link here and visiting briefly a forum on CS topics
that looked like it was doing reasonably well. Anybody have that link
handy so I can visit it again?

Another aspect of this: Is there anybody here whose internet connection
is still so slow or expensive that they wouldn't be able to handle
visiting a forum, rather than receiving e-mails?

Be well,

Mike D.




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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread Malcolm
Well, yes. Life in the boonies still has it's umm, compensations
Soon, though; a dish perhaps?
Take care, M.

On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:57 -0500, M.G. Devour wrote:



 
 Another aspect of this: Is there anybody here whose internet connection
 is still so slow or expensive that they wouldn't be able to handle
 visiting a forum, rather than receiving e-mails?
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSList action

2014-02-21 Thread M.G. Devour
Victor wrote:
 I don't participate much, but I feel the email groups are necessary to
 protect people from prosecution, trolling, etc. A sad statement to be
 sure. 

I'm curious, Victor, in what way you believe the e-mail format protect
us? Particularly since we do have a web-accessible archive?

Thank you for your thoughts.

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Re: CSList action

2014-02-20 Thread PT Ferrance
Yes... seems we have been a bit quiet lately.
PT





 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: CSList action
 


Can you hear me now?...

Re: CSList action

2014-02-20 Thread Gary Hilt
Probably all the krud and weather. Thannk God for CS we havnt had the flu
for years since taking it!!! And all your in puts.


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Yes... seems we have been a bit quiet lately.
 PT

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 Can you hear me now?...





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