RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-09 Thread Ode Coyote


  Someone else to chase other than poisonous thirsty water  snakes?? LOL

ode


At 11:05 AM 7/8/2005 -0700, you wrote:

D'ya tink that those who smoke the hemp and complained of
cotton mouth upset the cotton growers so much that they (the
cotton growers) went on a rampage .

ed


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RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-09 Thread Ode Coyote

  My brother did the same thing. He's a lazy guy and still is...but decided
that the excuse he was using..a no drive 'tool'.. only held him back
further than he wanted to be held and doing absolutely nothing was boring,
stoned or not.
 Any habitual behavior pattern/ ingrained thought loop is hard to break.
Fingernails aren't addictive, but it can take some doing to stop chewing.
Many people I know use pot to 'attain' drive.
 Smoke a doobie and go DO something! [Doesn't slow them down...or maybe it
slows them down enough to find a direction to go in?  Sheer genius and
focus don't always coincide and this particular group of whom I speak are
shear genius. Pot seems to bring them down to a functional level that's
near human, where 'humans' would wind up focusing on a fly spec or something.]
 Perhaps it narrows their focus down to where they can decide 'what' to do?
[And in some cases with people having scattered personality problems, who
to be...and pot doesn't have the nasty side effects that the 'meds' do.]
  That tells be that it's individual qualities of the 'person' that
determines what the drug does in their lives and pot is a 'tool' that's
used for many things. Hammers can build up or bash apart.
 If dropping the hammer allows you to stop being a carpenter so you can go
sailing, so be it. Both ways, it's a means to an end, not the end itself.
 For those of us who find interference to our intents and desires, we just
don't participate to any great degree and habit never becomes an issue. But
taking any change of intent and desire 'leap' will find a convenient
barrior, be it a substance or whatever is being used to stay put in a
familier pattern.

 You used the Navy to break free of yourself and it worked for you.  Good
call.
 One person I know, who was in the Navy and got fragged in Beruit by a
Russian grenade, uses pot to 'not be' THAT paranoid self.  Many other
combat Vets I know do the same and that works for them.

I find it to be the #1 treatment for conjestive cough beating every OTC
remedy out there by miles.
 [That covers about one toke every 5 or 10 years]
 But I have a paranoid anti-social hermit side that the pot tool brings out.
Ode

At 09:06 PM 7/8/2005 -0400, you wrote:

 I wasted (no pun intended) 5 years of my life smoking dope.  It may not
make you lazy but it sure does rob you of your drive.  I found I was
motivated to do nothing but look for the next joint.  FINALLY after 5 years
I suddenly realized THIS IS YOUR LIFE and if I didn't *do* something it
would be my life for the rest of my years.  I joined the Navy and kicked the
habit.  It was difficult to do.  I am glad I left that lifestyle behind.

Personally, I don't care if weed is legalized or not.  People will find a
way to get high (legal or not) of they are so inclined.  Keeping it illegal
doesn't stop it.  

Lori

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 

..it doesn't make people lazy, it gives lazy people something to do for an
excuse.
If it messes up someone who isn't lazy..like me..they just don't do it.

Ode



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RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-09 Thread Ed Kasper
So your allopath doctor tells you to go home and die. they
say maybe a couple of months, but it goes on an on for 2-3
years.  They give you all the morphine you want which does
not stop the pain just makes you constipated and nausea. Now
you can't even die in peace

These people are not lazy. They are not drug addicts.
They are our sick and dying. Good men, women and children.
Hundreds of thousands - every year. And if it hasn't
happened to someone you know - it will soon.

Twenty-five years of medical research (University of
Mississippi) and results are inconclusive

Cancer kills ... the AMA, the politicians, the drug
monopoly, the police, and those who look the other way make
it cruel.

There are thousands of good allopath doctors - real
physician's - who do everything possible to make the quality
of life the best that can be for their patients - including
things that are illegal.

You're arrested if you do, dammed if you don't.
If you can't stand up for your family. You have nothing to
stand for.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.

-Original Message-
From: lkfields [mailto:lkfie...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp


 I wasted (no pun intended) 5 years of my life smoking dope.
It may not
make you lazy but it sure does rob you of your drive.  I
found I was
motivated to do nothing but look for the next joint.
FINALLY after 5 years
I suddenly realized THIS IS YOUR LIFE and if I didn't *do*
something it
would be my life for the rest of my years.  I joined the
Navy and kicked the
habit.  It was difficult to do.  I am glad I left that
lifestyle behind.

Personally, I don't care if weed is legalized or not.
People will find a
way to get high (legal or not) of they are so inclined.
Keeping it illegal
doesn't stop it.

Lori

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]

..it doesn't make people lazy, it gives lazy people
something to do for an
excuse.
If it messes up someone who isn't lazy..like me..they just
don't do it.

Ode



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Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-08 Thread Ode Coyote

  I still have several copies of Jack Herers book The Emporer Wears No
Clothes from when I went on the Hemp Tour promoting the thousands of
proven and traditional uses of that plant.
 The story is there, quite well documented, chapter and verse.
 Email me privately if you want one.

 Virtually every bit of the info was gleaned from the Library of Congress.
 Hursts grandson publically apologized to the world.

 PS  I don't smoke the stuff..it turns 'me' into a statue with cotton mouth
and I have more interesting things to do, but I know hundreds of people who
do, with no ill effects on their lives other than occasional 'cop-itis'.

..it doesn't make people lazy, it gives lazy people something to do for an
excuse.
If it messes up someone who isn't lazy..like me..they just don't do it.

Ode

At 01:47 PM 7/7/2005 -0400, you wrote:

Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of barrels
of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion


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Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-08 Thread Ode Coyote
  Cotton farmers may have eventually been hurt, but it never got that far.
 The cotton industry of the time was burning out the land to the point that
all that land would grow was short needle scrub pines which will grow in
places where even grass won't due to their really deep tap roots.
 Walk through most Southern Pine Forests and you can still see the cotton
field terraces. [I live in one]

 It was paper from wood pulp that did the deed with William Randolf Hearst
in the lead.
 He had just bought millions of acres of forest in Mexico when the hemp
processing machine was invented and that threatened his newspaper empire.
 He used his empire to start a 'yellow journalism' pack of lies propaganda
campaign keying into anti Mexican immigrant and anti Black 'job stealer'
sentiments of the depression era and lobbied congress with an intentional
loco-weed=marijuana twist.
 Hearst invented a non existant problem to justify irrational fears and
the paranoid peoples bought it wholesale.
  Everyone knew what hemp was, grew it and used it for hundreds of things,
but virtually no one used the term 'marijuana' except Blacks and Mexicans.
 It was Kentuckys major cash crop.
 I have a friend whos' Dad actually emptied bags of marijuana seeds out of
airplanes onto farm fields for a living during WW2 because Hemp was so
valuable to the military.  The remnants of that Gov't campaign is now the
legendary 'ditchweed' of the Midwest. [Smoke a ton and get a headache]

Loco-weed is really a very common weed of the Datura family [Jimson weed]
and contains high levels of scopolamine [sleep aid..see 'sleepeaze'] and
atropine [used as a poison antidote by 'home security' etc]

Don't make a tea of loco-weed roots or seeds or you'll find out what trip
really means..for several days. [as I found out many years ago]
..makes for crazy cows who eat it by accident...hence the name loco weed

..lotsa fun..never ever again.

If you get poisoned, nowmight be worth it. [Crazy for 3 or 4 days beats
being dead]

 What is not realized is that commercial growing of hemp would probably
make growing high potency 'pot'  impossible outdoors.  They are the same
plant, just different strains with the low potency strains dominant.

Ode [still crazy after all these years?]



At 02:28 PM 7/7/2005 -0400, you wrote:

Yeh, that is a good karmic story.  The main reason for stopping the
growing of
hemp was because the cotton farmers were being hurt financially by it, it was
cheaper to grow, and replaced cotton many places.  There were varieties
that had
almost no hallucigen in it, but they still used that to outlaw it.  Then when
the synthetics replaced cotton, the cotton farmers starting crying to be
able to
grow hemp, but they were then unable to get the law appealed that they
originally sought.  So their original greed ended up eventually
bankrupting many
if not most of them.

Marshall

T J Garland wrote:

 Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of barrels
 of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ
 - Original Message -
 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:23 AM
 Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion

  James Patterson [inventer of microspheres, used every freekin where in
  every flippin thing these days] tried to market a cold fusion water
heater
  a while back.
   For some reason it didn't take off.
   Time to check back in?
 
  http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/abc.html
   During the last year, Patterson's little beads have led to a huge
  surprise. Not only do they produce heat. It turns out, they also
 neutralize
  radioactivity.
 
  http://www.lightparty.com/Peace/MiracleInTheVoid.html
  Clean Energy Technologies (CETI) is marketing licenses for the a power
 cell
  invented by Dr. James Patterson, a scientist with a distinguished record
 of
  achievement. News of his device spread widely when it was discussed on
two
  ABC shows, Nightline and Good Morning America.
 
  http://www.cleanenergy.com/
  Clean Energy Technologies (CETI)
  ..no mention of Dennis [the crook] Lee, for a change. [If you ever get
the
  chance, DO go see the show. It's a FACINATING display of con artistry and
  emotional manipulation surpassed by none...just don't give him any money.
  PS, you WILL 'want' to.]
  http://www.phact.org/e/z/leemotortest.htm
  http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html
 
   People are still saying that Tesla 'made' free energy...never happened.
   Train loads of coal paid for by George Westinghouse was doing that job.
   Tesla wanted to freely 'transmit' energy...like every radio station does
  today, by the multi megawatt. [Which incidently, lets people who live
near
  by pull out flourecent tubes from the closet for free light]
 
   Got an antenna as big as a frigate sail?
   Oh! Wrong frequency!
  See H.A.R.P. [and have that pointed at your house?]
 
  Ode
 
 
  At 02:45 PM 7/6/2005 +0900, you wrote:
  
  This is a useful introduction to the 

Re: CSRe: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-08 Thread Ode Coyote
  In WW2 many farmers were encouraged to grow hemp for the war effort. Hemp
has hundreds of commercial uses--many replacing petroleum.

##... many were replaced BY petroleum.
 Henry Ford had a hemp plantation on Iron Mountain. He originally planned
to fuel his cars on methonol and oil them with hemp seed oil. [Which works
quite well, BTW]
 The paint had a hemp oil base as did most paints of the time.
 Out of all that, Henry Ford invented the charcoal briquette.  Charcoal is
a byproduct of making methonol from biomass. [or vice versa depending on
end result intent of the process]

Ode


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Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Not sure, there is information that both were against hemp:

See http://kempscaseworks.com/GENERAL/HUMOR/50UselessFacts.htm

22. One of the reasons marijuana is illegal today is because cotton growers in 
the
30s lobbied against hemp farmers - they saw them as competitors.

There is an excellent historical article on the whole affair at:

http://www.hemp4fuel.com/nontesters/hemp4fuel/emperor.txt

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

   Cotton farmers may have eventually been hurt, but it never got that far.
  The cotton industry of the time was burning out the land to the point that
 all that land would grow was short needle scrub pines which will grow in
 places where even grass won't due to their really deep tap roots.
  Walk through most Southern Pine Forests and you can still see the cotton
 field terraces. [I live in one]

  It was paper from wood pulp that did the deed with William Randolf Hearst
 in the lead.
  He had just bought millions of acres of forest in Mexico when the hemp
 processing machine was invented and that threatened his newspaper empire.
  He used his empire to start a 'yellow journalism' pack of lies propaganda
 campaign keying into anti Mexican immigrant and anti Black 'job stealer'
 sentiments of the depression era and lobbied congress with an intentional
 loco-weed=marijuana twist.
  Hearst invented a non existant problem to justify irrational fears and
 the paranoid peoples bought it wholesale.
   Everyone knew what hemp was, grew it and used it for hundreds of things,
 but virtually no one used the term 'marijuana' except Blacks and Mexicans.
  It was Kentuckys major cash crop.
  I have a friend whos' Dad actually emptied bags of marijuana seeds out of
 airplanes onto farm fields for a living during WW2 because Hemp was so
 valuable to the military.  The remnants of that Gov't campaign is now the
 legendary 'ditchweed' of the Midwest. [Smoke a ton and get a headache]

 Loco-weed is really a very common weed of the Datura family [Jimson weed]
 and contains high levels of scopolamine [sleep aid..see 'sleepeaze'] and
 atropine [used as a poison antidote by 'home security' etc]

 Don't make a tea of loco-weed roots or seeds or you'll find out what trip
 really means..for several days. [as I found out many years ago]
 ..makes for crazy cows who eat it by accident...hence the name loco weed

 ..lotsa fun..never ever again.

 If you get poisoned, nowmight be worth it. [Crazy for 3 or 4 days beats
 being dead]

  What is not realized is that commercial growing of hemp would probably
 make growing high potency 'pot'  impossible outdoors.  They are the same
 plant, just different strains with the low potency strains dominant.

 Ode [still crazy after all these years?]

 At 02:28 PM 7/7/2005 -0400, you wrote:
 
 Yeh, that is a good karmic story.  The main reason for stopping the
 growing of
 hemp was because the cotton farmers were being hurt financially by it, it was
 cheaper to grow, and replaced cotton many places.  There were varieties
 that had
 almost no hallucigen in it, but they still used that to outlaw it.  Then when
 the synthetics replaced cotton, the cotton farmers starting crying to be
 able to
 grow hemp, but they were then unable to get the law appealed that they
 originally sought.  So their original greed ended up eventually
 bankrupting many
 if not most of them.
 
 Marshall
 
 T J Garland wrote:
 
  Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of barrels
  of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ
  - Original Message -
  From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion
 
   James Patterson [inventer of microspheres, used every freekin where in
   every flippin thing these days] tried to market a cold fusion water
 heater
   a while back.
For some reason it didn't take off.
Time to check back in?
  
   http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/abc.html
During the last year, Patterson's little beads have led to a huge
   surprise. Not only do they produce heat. It turns out, they also
  neutralize
   radioactivity.
  
   http://www.lightparty.com/Peace/MiracleInTheVoid.html
   Clean Energy Technologies (CETI) is marketing licenses for the a power
  cell
   invented by Dr. James Patterson, a scientist with a distinguished record
  of
   achievement. News of his device spread widely when it was discussed on
 two
   ABC shows, Nightline and Good Morning America.
  
   http://www.cleanenergy.com/
   Clean Energy Technologies (CETI)
   ..no mention of Dennis [the crook] Lee, for a change. [If you ever get
 the
   chance, DO go see the show. It's a FACINATING display of con artistry and
   emotional manipulation surpassed by none...just don't give him any money.
   PS, you WILL 'want' to.]
   http://www.phact.org/e/z/leemotortest.htm
   http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html
  
People are still saying that Tesla 'made' free 

RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-08 Thread Ed Kasper
D'ya tink that those who smoke the hemp and complained of
cotton mouth upset the cotton growers so much that they (the
cotton growers) went on a rampage .

ed

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp



  I still have several copies of Jack Herers book The
Emporer Wears No
Clothes from when I went on the Hemp Tour promoting the
thousands of
proven and traditional uses of that plant.
 The story is there, quite well documented, chapter and
verse.
 Email me privately if you want one.

 Virtually every bit of the info was gleaned from the
Library of Congress.
 Hursts grandson publically apologized to the world.

 PS  I don't smoke the stuff..it turns 'me' into a statue
with cotton mouth
and I have more interesting things to do, but I know
hundreds of people who
do, with no ill effects on their lives other than occasional
'cop-itis'.

..it doesn't make people lazy, it gives lazy people
something to do for an
excuse.
If it messes up someone who isn't lazy..like me..they just
don't do it.

Ode

At 01:47 PM 7/7/2005 -0400, you wrote:

Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace
millions of barrels
of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ




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RE: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-08 Thread lkfields
 I wasted (no pun intended) 5 years of my life smoking dope.  It may not
make you lazy but it sure does rob you of your drive.  I found I was
motivated to do nothing but look for the next joint.  FINALLY after 5 years
I suddenly realized THIS IS YOUR LIFE and if I didn't *do* something it
would be my life for the rest of my years.  I joined the Navy and kicked the
habit.  It was difficult to do.  I am glad I left that lifestyle behind.

Personally, I don't care if weed is legalized or not.  People will find a
way to get high (legal or not) of they are so inclined.  Keeping it illegal
doesn't stop it.  

Lori

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 

..it doesn't make people lazy, it gives lazy people something to do for an
excuse.
If it messes up someone who isn't lazy..like me..they just don't do it.

Ode



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Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-08 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
What I am now waiting to hear is that cotton is actually a tremendously 
potent hallucinogen, a fact covered up by the powers-that-be in order 
to keep teenagers from smoking cotton balls.: )


Now that would be an interesting revelation!




On Friday, Jul 8, 2005, at 23:49 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:


Not sure, there is information that both were against hemp:

See http://kempscaseworks.com/GENERAL/HUMOR/50UselessFacts.htm

22. One of the reasons marijuana is illegal today is because cotton 
growers in the

30s lobbied against hemp farmers - they saw them as competitors.

There is an excellent historical article on the whole affair at:

http://www.hemp4fuel.com/nontesters/hemp4fuel/emperor.txt

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

  Cotton farmers may have eventually been hurt, but it never got that 
far.
 The cotton industry of the time was burning out the land to the 
point that
all that land would grow was short needle scrub pines which will grow 
in

places where even grass won't due to their really deep tap roots.
 Walk through most Southern Pine Forests and you can still see the 
cotton

field terraces. [I live in one]

 It was paper from wood pulp that did the deed with William Randolf 
Hearst

in the lead.
 He had just bought millions of acres of forest in Mexico when the 
hemp
processing machine was invented and that threatened his newspaper 
empire.
 He used his empire to start a 'yellow journalism' pack of lies 
propaganda
campaign keying into anti Mexican immigrant and anti Black 'job 
stealer'
sentiments of the depression era and lobbied congress with an 
intentional

loco-weed=marijuana twist.
 Hearst invented a non existant problem to justify irrational fears 
and

the paranoid peoples bought it wholesale.
  Everyone knew what hemp was, grew it and used it for hundreds of 
things,
but virtually no one used the term 'marijuana' except Blacks and 
Mexicans.

 It was Kentuckys major cash crop.
 I have a friend whos' Dad actually emptied bags of marijuana seeds 
out of

airplanes onto farm fields for a living during WW2 because Hemp was so
valuable to the military.  The remnants of that Gov't campaign is now 
the

legendary 'ditchweed' of the Midwest. [Smoke a ton and get a headache]

Loco-weed is really a very common weed of the Datura family [Jimson 
weed]
and contains high levels of scopolamine [sleep aid..see 'sleepeaze'] 
and

atropine [used as a poison antidote by 'home security' etc]

Don't make a tea of loco-weed roots or seeds or you'll find out what 
trip

really means..for several days. [as I found out many years ago]
..makes for crazy cows who eat it by accident...hence the name loco 
weed


..lotsa fun..never ever again.

If you get poisoned, nowmight be worth it. [Crazy for 3 or 4 days 
beats

being dead]

 What is not realized is that commercial growing of hemp would 
probably
make growing high potency 'pot'  impossible outdoors.  They are the 
same

plant, just different strains with the low potency strains dominant.

Ode [still crazy after all these years?]

At 02:28 PM 7/7/2005 -0400, you wrote:


Yeh, that is a good karmic story.  The main reason for stopping the

growing of
hemp was because the cotton farmers were being hurt financially by 
it, it was
cheaper to grow, and replaced cotton many places.  There were 
varieties

that had
almost no hallucigen in it, but they still used that to outlaw it.  
Then when
the synthetics replaced cotton, the cotton farmers starting crying 
to be

able to
grow hemp, but they were then unable to get the law appealed that 
they

originally sought.  So their original greed ended up eventually

bankrupting many

if not most of them.

Marshall

T J Garland wrote:

Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of 
barrels

of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion

James Patterson [inventer of microspheres, used every freekin 
where in

every flippin thing these days] tried to market a cold fusion water

heater

a while back.
 For some reason it didn't take off.
 Time to check back in?

http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/abc.html
 During the last year, Patterson's little beads have led to a huge
surprise. Not only do they produce heat. It turns out, they also

neutralize

radioactivity.

http://www.lightparty.com/Peace/MiracleInTheVoid.html
Clean Energy Technologies (CETI) is marketing licenses for the a 
power

cell
invented by Dr. James Patterson, a scientist with a distinguished 
record

of
achievement. News of his device spread widely when it was 
discussed on

two

ABC shows, Nightline and Good Morning America.

http://www.cleanenergy.com/
Clean Energy Technologies (CETI)
..no mention of Dennis [the crook] Lee, for a change. [If you ever 
get

the
chance, DO go see the show. It's a FACINATING display of con 
artistry and
emotional 

Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-07 Thread T J Garland
Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of barrels
of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion


 James Patterson [inventer of microspheres, used every freekin where in
 every flippin thing these days] tried to market a cold fusion water heater
 a while back.
  For some reason it didn't take off.
  Time to check back in?

 http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/abc.html
  During the last year, Patterson's little beads have led to a huge
 surprise. Not only do they produce heat. It turns out, they also
neutralize
 radioactivity.

 http://www.lightparty.com/Peace/MiracleInTheVoid.html
 Clean Energy Technologies (CETI) is marketing licenses for the a power
cell
 invented by Dr. James Patterson, a scientist with a distinguished record
of
 achievement. News of his device spread widely when it was discussed on two
 ABC shows, Nightline and Good Morning America.

 http://www.cleanenergy.com/
 Clean Energy Technologies (CETI)
 ..no mention of Dennis [the crook] Lee, for a change. [If you ever get the
 chance, DO go see the show. It's a FACINATING display of con artistry and
 emotional manipulation surpassed by none...just don't give him any money.
 PS, you WILL 'want' to.]
 http://www.phact.org/e/z/leemotortest.htm
 http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html

  People are still saying that Tesla 'made' free energy...never happened.
  Train loads of coal paid for by George Westinghouse was doing that job.
  Tesla wanted to freely 'transmit' energy...like every radio station does
 today, by the multi megawatt. [Which incidently, lets people who live near
 by pull out flourecent tubes from the closet for free light]

  Got an antenna as big as a frigate sail?
  Oh! Wrong frequency!
 See H.A.R.P. [and have that pointed at your house?]

 Ode


 At 02:45 PM 7/6/2005 +0900, you wrote:
 
 This is a useful introduction to the topic for those who want it:
 
 http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion_pr.html
 
 Cold fusion, if commercialized, would change the world so radically we
 can hardly comprehend the implications and ramifications.   The rapid
 demise of the corrupt oil empire would be one of the first blessings.
 
 Those lucky few who identify the Microsoft of cold fusion
 commercialization will of course become quite  wealthy.   But I assume
 most research at this stage is non-commercial.
 
 JBB
 
 
 
 On Wednesday, Jul 6, 2005, at 14:39 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten
 wrote:
 
  A letter to the editor in today's newspaper (Daily Yomiuri)  mentioned
  a recent success in room-temperature fusion somewhere in California.
 
  I wonder whether that's correct;  seems it would be big news if so.
 
  A quick Google did not turn up anything definitive;  if anyone knows
  of something new I would be glad to hear.
 
  Thanks in advance;  I know some members follow this topic closely.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
Yeh, that is a good karmic story.  The main reason for stopping the growing of
hemp was because the cotton farmers were being hurt financially by it, it was
cheaper to grow, and replaced cotton many places.  There were varieties that had
almost no hallucigen in it, but they still used that to outlaw it.  Then when
the synthetics replaced cotton, the cotton farmers starting crying to be able to
grow hemp, but they were then unable to get the law appealed that they
originally sought.  So their original greed ended up eventually bankrupting many
if not most of them.

Marshall

T J Garland wrote:

 Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of barrels
 of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ
 - Original Message -
 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:23 AM
 Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion

  James Patterson [inventer of microspheres, used every freekin where in
  every flippin thing these days] tried to market a cold fusion water heater
  a while back.
   For some reason it didn't take off.
   Time to check back in?
 
  http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/abc.html
   During the last year, Patterson's little beads have led to a huge
  surprise. Not only do they produce heat. It turns out, they also
 neutralize
  radioactivity.
 
  http://www.lightparty.com/Peace/MiracleInTheVoid.html
  Clean Energy Technologies (CETI) is marketing licenses for the a power
 cell
  invented by Dr. James Patterson, a scientist with a distinguished record
 of
  achievement. News of his device spread widely when it was discussed on two
  ABC shows, Nightline and Good Morning America.
 
  http://www.cleanenergy.com/
  Clean Energy Technologies (CETI)
  ..no mention of Dennis [the crook] Lee, for a change. [If you ever get the
  chance, DO go see the show. It's a FACINATING display of con artistry and
  emotional manipulation surpassed by none...just don't give him any money.
  PS, you WILL 'want' to.]
  http://www.phact.org/e/z/leemotortest.htm
  http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html
 
   People are still saying that Tesla 'made' free energy...never happened.
   Train loads of coal paid for by George Westinghouse was doing that job.
   Tesla wanted to freely 'transmit' energy...like every radio station does
  today, by the multi megawatt. [Which incidently, lets people who live near
  by pull out flourecent tubes from the closet for free light]
 
   Got an antenna as big as a frigate sail?
   Oh! Wrong frequency!
  See H.A.R.P. [and have that pointed at your house?]
 
  Ode
 
 
  At 02:45 PM 7/6/2005 +0900, you wrote:
  
  This is a useful introduction to the topic for those who want it:
  
  http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion_pr.html
  
  Cold fusion, if commercialized, would change the world so radically we
  can hardly comprehend the implications and ramifications.   The rapid
  demise of the corrupt oil empire would be one of the first blessings.
  
  Those lucky few who identify the Microsoft of cold fusion
  commercialization will of course become quite  wealthy.   But I assume
  most research at this stage is non-commercial.
  
  JBB
  
  
  
  On Wednesday, Jul 6, 2005, at 14:39 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten
  wrote:
  
   A letter to the editor in today's newspaper (Daily Yomiuri)  mentioned
   a recent success in room-temperature fusion somewhere in California.
  
   I wonder whether that's correct;  seems it would be big news if so.
  
   A quick Google did not turn up anything definitive;  if anyone knows
   of something new I would be glad to hear.
  
   Thanks in advance;  I know some members follow this topic closely.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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CSRe: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-07 Thread noblemetals
  My source noted that Hurst was building a newspaper empire and was buying 
millions of acres of pulpwood timberland to supply his and other paper needs. 
It takes 20 years to grow a paper-tree and one year to grow hemp which produces 
a real fine paper product. He glamorized every pot smoking  related crime to  
push the outlawing of hemp.  In WW2 many farmers were encouraged to grow hemp 
for the war effort. Hemp has hundreds of commercial uses--many replacing 
petroleum.
 
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
 Date: 2005/07/07 Thu PM 02:28:07 EDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp
 
 Yeh, that is a good karmic story.  The main reason for stopping the growing of
 hemp was because the cotton farmers were being hurt financially by it, it was
 cheaper to grow, and replaced cotton many places.  There were varieties that 
 had
 almost no hallucigen in it, but they still used that to outlaw it.  Then when
 the synthetics replaced cotton, the cotton farmers starting crying to be able 
 to
 grow hemp, but they were then unable to get the law appealed that they
 originally sought.  So their original greed ended up eventually bankrupting 
 many
 if not most of them.
 
 Marshall
 
 T J Garland wrote:
 
  Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of barrels
  of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ
  - Original Message -
  From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion
 
   James Patterson [inventer of microspheres, used every freekin where in
   every flippin thing these days] tried to market a cold fusion water heater
   a while back.
For some reason it didn't take off.
Time to check back in?
  
   http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/abc.html
During the last year, Patterson's little beads have led to a huge
   surprise. Not only do they produce heat. It turns out, they also
  neutralize
   radioactivity.
  
   http://www.lightparty.com/Peace/MiracleInTheVoid.html
   Clean Energy Technologies (CETI) is marketing licenses for the a power
  cell
   invented by Dr. James Patterson, a scientist with a distinguished record
  of
   achievement. News of his device spread widely when it was discussed on two
   ABC shows, Nightline and Good Morning America.
  
   http://www.cleanenergy.com/
   Clean Energy Technologies (CETI)
   ..no mention of Dennis [the crook] Lee, for a change. [If you ever get the
   chance, DO go see the show. It's a FACINATING display of con artistry and
   emotional manipulation surpassed by none...just don't give him any money.
   PS, you WILL 'want' to.]
   http://www.phact.org/e/z/leemotortest.htm
   http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html
  
People are still saying that Tesla 'made' free energy...never happened.
Train loads of coal paid for by George Westinghouse was doing that job.
Tesla wanted to freely 'transmit' energy...like every radio station does
   today, by the multi megawatt. [Which incidently, lets people who live near
   by pull out flourecent tubes from the closet for free light]
  
Got an antenna as big as a frigate sail?
Oh! Wrong frequency!
   See H.A.R.P. [and have that pointed at your house?]
  
   Ode
  
  
   At 02:45 PM 7/6/2005 +0900, you wrote:
   
   This is a useful introduction to the topic for those who want it:
   
   http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion_pr.html
   
   Cold fusion, if commercialized, would change the world so radically we
   can hardly comprehend the implications and ramifications.   The rapid
   demise of the corrupt oil empire would be one of the first blessings.
   
   Those lucky few who identify the Microsoft of cold fusion
   commercialization will of course become quite  wealthy.   But I assume
   most research at this stage is non-commercial.
   
   JBB
   
   
   
   On Wednesday, Jul 6, 2005, at 14:39 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten
   wrote:
   
A letter to the editor in today's newspaper (Daily Yomiuri)  mentioned
a recent success in room-temperature fusion somewhere in California.
   
I wonder whether that's correct;  seems it would be big news if so.
   
A quick Google did not turn up anything definitive;  if anyone knows
of something new I would be glad to hear.
   
Thanks in advance;  I know some members follow this topic closely.
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: CSRe: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

2005-07-07 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
A sad story about hemp:  I read that Japanese soldiers in Vietnam 
during WWII  forced farmers to grow hemp rather than rice.
The Japanese wanted hemp for ropes, nets, etc. There was a great 
famine in Vietnam as a result.


The Vietnamese have been victimized by just about everyone, it seems. . 
. .



On Friday, Jul 8, 2005, at 09:22 Asia/Tokyo, 
noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote:


  My source noted that Hurst was building a newspaper empire and was 
buying millions of acres of pulpwood timberland to supply his and 
other paper needs. It takes 20 years to grow a paper-tree and one year 
to grow hemp which produces a real fine paper product. He glamorized 
every pot smoking  related crime to  push the outlawing of hemp.  In 
WW2 many farmers were encouraged to grow hemp for the war effort. Hemp 
has hundreds of commercial uses--many replacing petroleum.


From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
Date: 2005/07/07 Thu PM 02:28:07 EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion/ Hemp

Yeh, that is a good karmic story.  The main reason for stopping the 
growing of
hemp was because the cotton farmers were being hurt financially by 
it, it was
cheaper to grow, and replaced cotton many places.  There were 
varieties that had
almost no hallucigen in it, but they still used that to outlaw it.  
Then when
the synthetics replaced cotton, the cotton farmers starting crying to 
be able to

grow hemp, but they were then unable to get the law appealed that they
originally sought.  So their original greed ended up eventually 
bankrupting many

if not most of them.

Marshall

T J Garland wrote:

Guys-- do some reading on hemp and how it could replace millions of 
barrels

of oil a day. WR Hurst did a real con job on the US.  TJ
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Cold Fusion

James Patterson [inventer of microspheres, used every freekin where 
in
every flippin thing these days] tried to market a cold fusion water 
heater

a while back.
 For some reason it didn't take off.
 Time to check back in?

http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/abc.html
 During the last year, Patterson's little beads have led to a huge
surprise. Not only do they produce heat. It turns out, they also

neutralize

radioactivity.

http://www.lightparty.com/Peace/MiracleInTheVoid.html
Clean Energy Technologies (CETI) is marketing licenses for the a 
power

cell
invented by Dr. James Patterson, a scientist with a distinguished 
record

of
achievement. News of his device spread widely when it was discussed 
on two

ABC shows, Nightline and Good Morning America.

http://www.cleanenergy.com/
Clean Energy Technologies (CETI)
..no mention of Dennis [the crook] Lee, for a change. [If you ever 
get the
chance, DO go see the show. It's a FACINATING display of con 
artistry and
emotional manipulation surpassed by none...just don't give him any 
money.

PS, you WILL 'want' to.]
http://www.phact.org/e/z/leemotortest.htm
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html

 People are still saying that Tesla 'made' free energy...never 
happened.
 Train loads of coal paid for by George Westinghouse was doing that 
job.
 Tesla wanted to freely 'transmit' energy...like every radio 
station does
today, by the multi megawatt. [Which incidently, lets people who 
live near

by pull out flourecent tubes from the closet for free light]

 Got an antenna as big as a frigate sail?
 Oh! Wrong frequency!
See H.A.R.P. [and have that pointed at your house?]

Ode


At 02:45 PM 7/6/2005 +0900, you wrote:


This is a useful introduction to the topic for those who want it:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion_pr.html

Cold fusion, if commercialized, would change the world so 
radically we
can hardly comprehend the implications and ramifications.   The 
rapid
demise of the corrupt oil empire would be one of the first 
blessings.


Those lucky few who identify the Microsoft of cold fusion
commercialization will of course become quite  wealthy.   But I 
assume

most research at this stage is non-commercial.

JBB



On Wednesday, Jul 6, 2005, at 14:39 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten
wrote:

A letter to the editor in today's newspaper (Daily Yomiuri)  
mentioned
a recent success in room-temperature fusion somewhere in 
California.


I wonder whether that's correct;  seems it would be big news if 
so.


A quick Google did not turn up anything definitive;  if anyone 
knows

of something new I would be glad to hear.

Thanks in advance;  I know some members follow this topic closely.







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