Re: CSSplenda/Sucralose Toxicity
I just received this post from http://www.karlloren.com/diet/p40.htm I believe he is talking about this subject. Thought you might be interested. connie On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:40:03 +0100 (BST) Ole Alstrup alst...@yahoo.com writes: http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/23/chlorine.htm Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: There is no link there with the word chlorine in it, in fact the word chlorine only appears on that page in one place. Marshall Ole Alstrup wrote: Look for the link with chlorine... How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
Re: CSSplenda/Sucralose Toxicity
Although the anti-sweetener campaign equates sucralose with PCBs (DDT dioxin etc) ... they are quite dissimilar. And, 97% or more of the sucralose is ejected from the body unchanged anyway, leaving around 3% of each 15mg sweetener dose for the body to deal with. That's 4 1/2 ten thousandths of a gram, a ridiculously low dose. One's efforts would be arguably better spent attending to one's antioxidant pool and pH balance etc. that will neutralise many insults, than rattling on about sucralose, a supposed toxin. Duncan There is absolutely nothing in that page that indicates that sucralose is a neurotoxin. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSplenda/Sucralose Toxicity
http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Do you have any documentation indicating that Sucralose is a neurotoxin. I have never seen any references that indicate this. Marshall - How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
Re: CSSplenda/Sucralose Toxicity
There is absolutely nothing in that page that indicates that sucralose is a neurotoxin. Marshall Ole Alstrup wrote: http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Do you have any documentation indicating that Sucralose is a neurotoxin. I have never seen any references that indicate this. Marshall --- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
Re: CSSplenda/Sucralose Toxicity
Look for the link with chlorine... Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:There is absolutely nothing in that page that indicates that sucralose is a neurotoxin. Marshall Ole Alstrup wrote: http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ - Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail
Re: CSSplenda/Sucralose Toxicity
There is no link there with the word chlorine in it, in fact the word chlorine only appears on that page in one place. Marshall Ole Alstrup wrote: Look for the link with chlorine... Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: There is absolutely nothing in that page that indicates that sucralose is a neurotoxin. Marshall Ole Alstrup wrote: http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ --- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail
Re: CSSplenda/Sucralose Toxicity
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/23/chlorine.htm Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:There is no link there with the word chlorine in it, in fact the word chlorine only appears on that page in one place. Marshall Ole Alstrup wrote: Look for the link with chlorine... - How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
Re: CSsplenda??
Why don't you just try xylitol instead? It has a more benefits than sucralose, and is a natural substance made by our bodies. Check out http://www.xylitol.org -Ken Bagwell - Original Message - From: Sharon tala...@teleport.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:09 PM Subject: Re: CSsplenda?? It makes me ill. I just started the Atkins diet, and I tried the shakes, which have splenda. Note that on Atkins you are supposed to have issues with constipation at first. Not me..every time I drank a shake I had the opposite problem. Didn't figure it out for days. I like my Thymus gland just fine the way it is thank you. Sharon what do we think of splenda?? noote it is in one of the Gatorade products. http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSsplenda??
Hi David, Dr.Mercola (of whom I am a great admirer) holds Splenda as one of the sugar substitutes for which there has been abmismally little testing to prove it's safety--I concur. However, on the Gatorade Label, ingredients list Sucrose Syrup--NOT Sucralose (Splenda)--There is NO Splenda NOR Aspartame in Gatorade, but Real Sugar for energy. Sincerely, Richard Harris; 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: David S Osborne [mailto:ide...@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsplenda?? what do we think of splenda?? noote it is in one of the Gatorade products. http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
Splenda, aka sucralose, is chlorinated sucrose, or cane/beet sugar. I think the jury is still out on it. Adkins recommends it, and it does not appear to be a neurotoxin like nutrasweet is. It has been around a long time, but only became popular recently. Looking at the first link you have below, I do have a few comments. First the comparison with pesticides makes no sense. If that were a valid comparison then table salt would also qualify as being chlorinated and related. This is the same type of comparison that is made between EIS and silver compounds. From the list of reactions, it appears that most could be a common allergy type of reaction. You will always find some people allergic to almost anything, so this is not particularly surprising. What seems to be missing from the list is long term problems, problems that don't go away after removal of the substance from the diet, like nutrasweet has, IE. tumors, CFS, degenerative nerve disorders such as MS, death. It may well be somewhat harmful to the average person, but compared to nutrasweet, I don't even think it is close. Marshall David S Osborne wrote: what do we think of splenda?? noote it is in one of the Gatorade products. http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
That link: http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm Indicates that the gatorade product that has sucralose in it is Propel water Did you check the labe of that? Marshall Richard Harris wrote: Hi David, Dr.Mercola (of whom I am a great admirer) holds Splenda as one of the sugar substitutes for which there has been abmismally little testing to prove it's safety--I concur. However, on the Gatorade Label, ingredients list Sucrose Syrup--NOT Sucralose (Splenda)--There is NO Splenda NOR Aspartame in Gatorade, but Real Sugar for energy. Sincerely, Richard Harris; 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: David S Osborne [mailto:ide...@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsplenda?? what do we think of splenda?? noote it is in one of the Gatorade products. http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 10:06, Marshall Dudley wrote: Looking at the first link you have below, I do have a few comments. First the comparison with pesticides makes no sense. If that were a valid comparison then table salt would also qualify as being chlorinated and related. This is the same type of comparison that is made between EIS and silver compounds. Huh? Because table salt has a chlorine in it that makes it the same as a chlorinated product? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
David and Marshall I would suggest checking out Mercola's http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm and the leads therein to get a better picture of splenda. I would not touch it with a ten foot pole. Just feel it. Your answer is there. Warmly with E-hugs, Christine Christine Carleton, C.B.P. The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest (their) patients in the care of the human frame and in the cause and prevention of dis-ease... T. Edison ~~~ From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:10:29 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsplenda?? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:08:21 -0700 That link: http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm Indicates that the gatorade product that has sucralose in it is Propel water Did you check the labe of that? Marshall Richard Harris wrote: Hi David, Dr.Mercola (of whom I am a great admirer) holds Splenda as one of the sugar substitutes for which there has been abmismally little testing to prove it's safety--I concur. However, on the Gatorade Label, ingredients list Sucrose Syrup--NOT Sucralose (Splenda)--There is NO Splenda NOR Aspartame in Gatorade, but Real Sugar for energy. Sincerely, Richard Harris; 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: David S Osborne [mailto:ide...@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsplenda?? what do we think of splenda?? noote it is in one of the Gatorade products. http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
Salt is a chlorinated compound. I am saying that comparing it to chlorinated pesticides does not make sense. Marshall Garnet wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 10:06, Marshall Dudley wrote: Looking at the first link you have below, I do have a few comments. First the comparison with pesticides makes no sense. If that were a valid comparison then table salt would also qualify as being chlorinated and related. This is the same type of comparison that is made between EIS and silver compounds. Huh? Because table salt has a chlorine in it that makes it the same as a chlorinated product? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda diebeties??
I find this paragraph interesting: Few human studies of safety have been published on sucralose. One small study of diabetic patients using the sweetener showed a statistically significant increase in glycosylated hemoglobin (Hba1C), which is a marker of long-term blood glucose levels and is used to assess glycemic control in diabetic patients. According to the FDA, increases in glycosolation in hemoglobin imply lessening of control of diabetes. What is interesting is that my wife replaced all sugar with Splenda about a year ago. At that time she was diabetic, and the doctor had upped her medicine 3 or 4 times already. He said that he was going to have to up it again before she changed her diet. Following the elimination of sugar from her diet and replacement with Splenda, she was able to completely eliminate taking any diabeties medicine, and now her blood sugar is normal. So I am a bit confused. How can something reported to lessen control of diabeties end up curing hers? It does not make sense. I wish there would be more extensive research on this. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
ALSO check out the signs and symptoms Is Splenda Making You Sick? Find Out Some Common Reaction Symptoms http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm - The artificial sweetener Splenda is used in hundreds of foods and beverages in the United States and is touted as being safe and healthier than sugar. But if Splenda is safe, why havent any studies been done to prove it, and why are so many people getting sick from eating Splenda? Find out some of the more common reaction symptoms now. Christine From: Christine Carleton essential-liv...@telus.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:03:27 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsplenda?? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:02:38 -0700 David and Marshall I would suggest checking out Mercola's http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm and the leads therein to get a better picture of splenda. I would not touch it with a ten foot pole. Just feel it. Your answer is there. Warmly with E-hugs, Christine Christine Carleton, C.B.P. The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest (their) patients in the care of the human frame and in the cause and prevention of dis-ease... T. Edison ~~~ From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:10:29 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsplenda?? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:08:21 -0700 That link: http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm Indicates that the gatorade product that has sucralose in it is Propel water Did you check the labe of that? Marshall Richard Harris wrote: Hi David, Dr.Mercola (of whom I am a great admirer) holds Splenda as one of the sugar substitutes for which there has been abmismally little testing to prove it's safety--I concur. However, on the Gatorade Label, ingredients list Sucrose Syrup--NOT Sucralose (Splenda)--There is NO Splenda NOR Aspartame in Gatorade, but Real Sugar for energy. Sincerely, Richard Harris; 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: David S Osborne [mailto:ide...@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsplenda?? what do we think of splenda?? noote it is in one of the Gatorade products. http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
Hi All, WRT Splenda, the first time I tried it, I was painfully sick to my stomach for two hours. Its not for me, doesn't bother my wife, so go figure. We just don't use any sugars, unless they are come via fruits. The first time I was given some hard candy (unknowingly) sweetened with aspartame (back in 1982), I was sick to my stomach for nearly four hours. Bad stuff, imho. Splenda, aka sucralose, is chlorinated sucrose, or cane/beet sugar. I think the jury is still out on it. Adkins recommends it, and it does not appear to be a neurotoxin like nutrasweet is. It has been around a long time, but only became popular recently. Ciao, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
Just a word ot two on splenda. I started using splenda as my only sweetener about four years ago, while on the Atkins diet. It looks like sugar, tastes like sugar handles heat for cooking like sugar and doesn't raise the glycemic figures a bit. Also if you are in Ketosis it doesn't affect the Ketostrip colors any. The advantage over Stevia is it is always the same and you don't get an after taste. My wife and kids all use it as the only sweetener. They won't drink soda pop that isn't sweetened with Splenda and the ice-cream we buy is sweetened with it also. In a nutshell it is fantastic and anyone that is having a problem should look at the other changes they are undergoing in their diet. I've read the same stuff here on the list concerning CS in the past and I don't believe it is the problem in either case.(for either of them) That's my rant for today. Dave Sharon wrote: It makes me ill. I just started the Atkins diet, and I tried the shakes, which have splenda. Note that on Atkins you are supposed to have issues with constipation at first. Not me..every time I drank a shake I had the opposite problem. Didn't figure it out for days. I like my Thymus gland just fine the way it is thank you. Sharon what do we think of splenda?? noote it is in one of the Gatorade products. http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsplenda??
It makes me ill. I just started the Atkins diet, and I tried the shakes, which have splenda. Note that on Atkins you are supposed to have issues with constipation at first. Not me..every time I drank a shake I had the opposite problem. Didn't figure it out for days. I like my Thymus gland just fine the way it is thank you. Sharon what do we think of splenda?? noote it is in one of the Gatorade products. http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_starbucks.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
