Re: CS>A few refinements
A machine that I bought from the US was supposed to make gold, silver, copper, zinc and selenium. I bought it for making gold, but it will not do that. I had to quit using the jar for making silver because it became coated on the inside and almost unable to be cleaned. I believe the jar is a lead crystal mix and possibly dangerous to heath. No other jar has ever done that. Cliff. - Original Message - From: "bob smith" To: Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: CS>A few refinements I can't figure out why I have never in 3 years had a problem with a batch. I have made it from the max range of the SG6, about 20 PPM down to 5 PPM. I was told the first thing I needed was a bottle brush. I never got one. Instead I got a case of new mason jars. All I have ever done was rinse them well with DW. The jar I use for brewing has a dark yellow collor, but when I decant the EIS it is always clear. I am sure the Silver Puppy will do the same. Bob Smith - Original Message - From: "ransley" To: "The Silverlist" ; Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: CS>A few refinements The big thing that I've learned lately is that if anything goes wrong with my brew, if I'm getting floaties or a silver skim on top- my brewing jar needs cleaning. It may not be obviously dirty, but close inspection will almost always reveal the start of a spot of precipitated silver compound somewhere inside the jar. I have found out that simply rinsing it or long term soaking it in H2O2 is not good enough- it needs physical scrubbing. I found out that doing this with paper towels and H2O2 is a sure way to contaminate the jar and ruin several batches afterwards. After several months, I've determined that this works: A brand new bottle brush rinsed well when new with H2O2 and DW, and dedicated only to cleaning the CS jars. I hang this brush in my clothes closet, and everyone in the house knows never to touch it. I scrub the jar out with this brush and H2O2, then rinse 3 times with DW. It never fails to bring my CS brewing operation back to near perfection. The brush turns brown at the bristle tips and looks a bit dirty. That's the silver compounds wicking out as it dries. I'll soon use this brush in the kitchen and buy another for the CS jars. Daddybob -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>A few refinements
Having had extensive problems making clear CS for almost a full year after I started, with 3 different generators, maybe I can shed some light. It has been said many times that most people can make clear CS perfectly well, with no unusual precautions or handling using DW that is anything up to 3.0 uS. In my case, I have to be scrupulous about the cleaning and handling (i.e. none at all, after cleaning my brew jars) of my equipment, this includes never touching the electrodes with bare fingers. Even as careful as I am, I will get yellow CS if I use anything but twice distilled water of no more than .4 uS... .4 uS water that is only once distilled will make yellow CS for me. Commercially sold distilled water was never pure enough so I now use a basic 1 gallon still. For a long time, I could distill filtered cold tap water and it would come out .2 or .3 uS. Though they insist not, something is diffferent in the town water processing, because now I have to run the water through the still twice to get it to .4 uS . It is a pain, but since I have to distill twice anyway, I now use unfiltered hot water for the first run through, which does shorten the time required. In fact, in the past year, even a single run through starting with unfiltered hot water gives the same or lower uS than one run through of filtered cold water. Maybe the mfr of the water filters has changed their product. Whatever, it is strange. The only thing I can conclude is that something either in the air in the area, or in my house specifically, or in the water itself (something that does NOT distill out, nor read on a PWT) causes the CS making process to be much more delicately balanced than it is across most other areas of the U.S. Since I'm the only person I know of in my town who makes CS, I have no way to check if the problem is unique to my house only. There are not a lot of us who have this much trouble, but don't assume that because you have it easy, everyone does :-) Being insatiably curious, I do wish I could someday get to the root of why you have no problem and I have to be so ultra careful and meticulous. Believe me, I would not be so careful if it didn't matter. sol bob smith wrote: I can't figure out why I have never in 3 years had a problem with a batch. I have made it from the max range of the SG6, about 20 PPM down to 5 PPM. I was told the first thing I needed was a bottle brush. I never got one. Instead I got a case of new mason jars. All I have ever done was rinse them well with DW. The jar I use for brewing has a dark yellow collor, but when I decant the EIS it is always clear. I am sure the Silver Puppy will do the same. Bob Smith -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 3/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>A few refinements
I can't figure out why I have never in 3 years had a problem with a batch. I have made it from the max range of the SG6, about 20 PPM down to 5 PPM. I was told the first thing I needed was a bottle brush. I never got one. Instead I got a case of new mason jars. All I have ever done was rinse them well with DW. The jar I use for brewing has a dark yellow collor, but when I decant the EIS it is always clear. I am sure the Silver Puppy will do the same. Bob Smith - Original Message - From: "ransley" To: "The Silverlist" ; Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: CS>A few refinements > The big thing that I've learned lately is that if anything goes wrong with > my brew, if I'm getting floaties or a silver skim on top- my brewing jar > needs cleaning. It may not be obviously dirty, but close inspection will > almost always reveal the start of a spot of precipitated silver compound > somewhere inside the jar. > > I have found out that simply rinsing it or long term soaking it in H2O2 is > not good enough- it needs physical scrubbing. I found out that doing this > with paper towels and H2O2 is a sure way to contaminate the jar and ruin > several batches afterwards. > > After several months, I've determined that this works: A brand new bottle > brush rinsed well when new with H2O2 and DW, and dedicated only to cleaning > the CS jars. I hang this brush in my clothes closet, and everyone in the > house knows never to touch it. > > I scrub the jar out with this brush and H2O2, then rinse 3 times with DW. It > never fails to bring my CS brewing operation back to near perfection. > > The brush turns brown at the bristle tips and looks a bit dirty. That's the > silver compounds wicking out as it dries. I'll soon use this brush in the > kitchen and buy another for the CS jars. > > Daddybob > > > -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
